What's the Difference between Young Link and Toon Link? (SSBU)

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  • @appliedatoms7066
    @appliedatoms7066 5 років тому +1259

    Young Link is basically an echo of what regular Link used to be, but since they've reworked him it doesn't fit. It's sort of luigification in reverse.

    • @tavrincallas3218
      @tavrincallas3218 5 років тому +91

      Probably the best explanation ever about the Links.

    • @greenkidd529
      @greenkidd529 5 років тому +43

      And dr mario is an echo if what Mario used to be

    • @appliedatoms7066
      @appliedatoms7066 5 років тому +41

      @@greenkidd529 I'd argue he's still been luigified. Even when Mario had the tornado doc's worked differently. The pills were always bouncier, and they did add that new dair and throws. Still similar, but not quite a full throwback to anything other than itself.

    • @Heavy_Orbital
      @Heavy_Orbital 5 років тому +10

      Greenkidd Doctor Mario is a Luigi echo

    • @DiezAU
      @DiezAU 5 років тому +3

      Redマキシ In 3DS & Wii U, maybe.

  • @cjaquino28
    @cjaquino28 5 років тому +3259

    There us a huge reason why Dr, Mario is not an echo fighter: His PHD.

    • @lucasdellamaggiore
      @lucasdellamaggiore 5 років тому +36

      @@3rmmmwotthes1gma And down b

    • @BLOODY__FATALITY
      @BLOODY__FATALITY 5 років тому +33

      Lol good one. Also the fludd is gone in replacement of his old move that everyone loved.

    • @treemannick2969
      @treemannick2969 5 років тому +13

      Dr. Mario doesn’t have a PhD.

    • @hamlet1055
      @hamlet1055 5 років тому +11

      In which field, Tetris?

    • @jemilalvarez4103
      @jemilalvarez4103 5 років тому +8

      I diagnose you with DOWN-B

  • @arcmissile
    @arcmissile 5 років тому +1835

    To sum it up:
    -Toon link has actual kill power and is floaty
    -Young link has more combo potential, with arrows and d-tilt being noticeably better moves

    • @dc_dachi
      @dc_dachi 5 років тому +211

      In terms of raw knockback, Toon Link's moves do launch further, but Young Link actually kills much more consistently because he has better kill setups.

    • @dordpolo239
      @dordpolo239 5 років тому +87

      Well dtilt for toon link works just like falcon, it's used to send at gross angles near the ledge. Useful against characters with bad recoveries

    • @KidRunnerH
      @KidRunnerH 5 років тому +1

      And Young Link is faster.

    • @uralink3485
      @uralink3485 5 років тому +84

      @@KidRunnerH Toon Link is faster*

    • @fury6688
      @fury6688 5 років тому +87

      Toon link’s kill confirms are actually more consistent than Young link’s, statistically.
      When hitting a bomb, for instance, toon link has slightly larger hitstun that YL. This makes it so he can more easily get kills with it.
      Along with that, his fair doing much more knockback and being able to hold a bomb for 5 seconds (299 frames to be exact) rather than three makes it so he can more patiently play neutral and scare the opponent into being defensive.
      Their boomerang is almost the same, the only real differences in usage come from the fact that TL is floatier, making it so his b reverses/Wavebounces have mich better leniency.
      D tilt for toon link combos directly into dash attack, which can set up into a nair followup or another aerial. Offstage it can setup for some nasty gimps, and at around 65%+ it sets up for techchase situations.
      One thing I don’t see mentioned often is that TL has a combo tree off of almost every move in his kit, rather than YL with specific combo moves but longer strings.
      For example, up air.
      Toon link’s Up Air has a larger hitbox relative to his body, and less landing lag. The hitbox also lasts slightly longer. (in sacrifice for coming out later)
      This makes it so it can frametrap better, juggle characters with low drift better, and kill-confirm into an aerial.
      Arrow on the other hand is most likely worse. However, it isn’t without its uses.
      It can true combo into moves like dash attack, f tilt, or some smashes at really high percents.
      Plus, it can mixup into aerials offstage much more easily at high percents due to its base knockback (bKb)
      It always forces a defensive option because of its slower travel speed, which you can use to pressure and condition shield much better with, or read options more.
      Check out my twitter post on a few applications if anybody wants of stuff-
      Dash attack stuff- twitter.com/furyimperia/status/1158844822532382720?s=21
      Arrow thing: twitter.com/furyimperia/status/1158858446235738114?s=21
      Trying to clear the water a bit on the characters, since people are often not in the know of their abilities.

  • @oddlynicole16
    @oddlynicole16 5 років тому +348

    I like all the Links, but Toon Link is definitely my favorite. I just love his cartoony expressions and I feel like Ultimate made him even more expressive.

    • @cozycozes7137
      @cozycozes7137 5 років тому +17

      The true difference between young link and toon link is that toon link is cuter dont @ me.

    • @AngelCab1q
      @AngelCab1q 4 роки тому +9

      I like toon link because of his combos that he had in brawl
      And the cartoony expressions

    • @ernthenerd3110
      @ernthenerd3110 4 роки тому +9

      Yea I love his screams

    • @Mr.Tw1sty
      @Mr.Tw1sty 4 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @TheIceCreamWizard
      @TheIceCreamWizard 4 роки тому +7

      @Red Sprite Gaming you swallow

  • @blunderberry8772
    @blunderberry8772 5 років тому +1770

    I main Toon Link and always get made fun of because he's "the worst Link." lol
    Loved the video by the way.

    • @arctc2195
      @arctc2195 5 років тому +161

      Mello boi Toon Link main here and the dumb thing is he’s been in C tier since brawl which is stupid

    • @kai_824
      @kai_824 5 років тому +155

      I feel you man I been playing him since Brawl. People always make fun of me for choosing the worst link. That is I til I kick there ass with him

    • @Positivewaiter
      @Positivewaiter 5 років тому +95

      At the end of the day. Teir list are very dismissive imo at least. Cause while Toon link isn't my main I like playing him the most outta the 3. It's all about the player. Cause a kick a adult links ass I know with toon link all the time.

    • @ieatcereal4dinner489
      @ieatcereal4dinner489 5 років тому +60

      You spelled best wrong.

    • @4nando234
      @4nando234 5 років тому +13

      Toon Link got better since Brawl. He's pretty much his own character now with different air attacks and neutral attacks

  • @scettico...
    @scettico... 5 років тому +829

    Every Toon Link gangsta until they get combo'd to fifty percent cuz Young Link decided to shoot an arrow.

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI 5 років тому +123

      Every Young Link gangsta till they can't kill until 150%

    • @iaifia3224
      @iaifia3224 5 років тому +18

      @@equinox-XVI wich we do easy

    • @_guy123
      @_guy123 5 років тому +6

      ProBro X cause Young Link got them combos on deck

    • @1nickyross
      @1nickyross 5 років тому +8

      *That's why I spam down air alot*

    • @gappy3664
      @gappy3664 5 років тому +6

      every young link gangsta till the tilts come out

  • @thatkingdomheartsguy9615
    @thatkingdomheartsguy9615 5 років тому +556

    Young links final smash should've had something to do with the fierce diety

  • @holdenp296
    @holdenp296 5 років тому +508

    Young links final smash should turn him into fierce diety
    Edit: Anyone arguing that it is OoT Young Link and not majoras mask link is just wrong, they are literally the same one lmao

    • @ashirii8347
      @ashirii8347 5 років тому +9

      definitely.

    • @katowoozy3664
      @katowoozy3664 5 років тому +13

      It's gotta be final smash that's straight to the point though. That's why we don't see giga bowser, wario man, or the landmasters anymore because those final smashes were way too overpowered.

    • @1nickyross
      @1nickyross 5 років тому +5

      @@katowoozy3664, have you ever seen a bowser amiibo or lvl 9 cpu bowser use his final smash in ultimate?

    • @ddsdwedqwed362
      @ddsdwedqwed362 5 років тому +13

      @@katowoozy3664 then we can make it so that he puts it on and slices the moon in half. Like he does in hyrule warriors

    • @ssbbbest
      @ssbbbest 5 років тому +1

      Super missed opportunity.

  • @saltee3040
    @saltee3040 5 років тому +686

    Similarlity: They both deserve more interesting movesets

    • @facuxmr
      @facuxmr 4 роки тому +15

      They have enought representation. Look at Cloud, no songs, spirits. Or look at Sonic.

    • @thalison151
      @thalison151 4 роки тому +45

      Toon Link does, Young Link is fine as he is except his final smash shouldve been fierce deity

    • @saltee3040
      @saltee3040 4 роки тому +35

      @@thalison151 I think young link needs so much more to represent majoras mask as well, and this is a me thing but I don't like reused moves and I dig deep into my head to change as many moves as I can.

    • @thalison151
      @thalison151 4 роки тому +10

      @@saltee3040 Yeah, but as of now Young Link is the only somewhat faithful representation of how Link was in the past games, as good as a more accurate majora's mask representation would be, the extent I'd like would only be maybe the majora's mask guilded blade and the hero's shield because those look rad. Young Link rn has tools that Majora's Mask young link has.
      If you get rid of young link's moveset you're getting rid of smash link, but if you change up Toon Link you're getting a character that isn't shadowed by better versions of the same moveset

    • @saltee3040
      @saltee3040 4 роки тому +7

      @@thalison151 I don't see what's do bad about that, sf5 made ken a completely new character and people loved it, all of the zelda characters are in dire need of that treatment, even toon link.

  • @DJTileTurnip
    @DJTileTurnip 5 років тому +639

    Young Link has MILK
    Nuff said

  • @leosamuelmat
    @leosamuelmat 5 років тому +1735

    I can tell the difference right now:
    One is young and one is toon

    • @treemannick2969
      @treemannick2969 5 років тому +23

      MIND BLOWN! 🤯

    • @carlitos219
      @carlitos219 5 років тому +49

      But toon is also young in a way

    • @ulink265
      @ulink265 5 років тому +31

      @@carlitos219 but young is not toon

    • @DK19998
      @DK19998 5 років тому +4

      Ulink 26 young is toon as well he’s not a real person.

    • @koalifix6501
      @koalifix6501 5 років тому +2

      Damn, thabks for the fact man, I really needed that

  • @yamisean3298
    @yamisean3298 5 років тому +265

    What if they both had different Final Smashes:
    Young Link: Uses the Fierce Deity Mask and slices through his oponnents
    Toon Link: Captain Falcon's Final Smash but with the King of Red Lions

    • @Venombot21
      @Venombot21 5 років тому +60

      or leave toon links as the triforce rush one, since he actually collects the triforce in wind waker, piece by piece. Agreed with the fierce deity change though, also should've had toon link use the mirror shield from his game instead of the basic one

    • @erickmaverick3128
      @erickmaverick3128 5 років тому +11

      If only. I was disappointed that they reused their old finishers.

    • @CDRW24
      @CDRW24 5 років тому +25

      Pretty much everyone I see online agrees that Young Link's final smash should of been Fierce Deity Link.

    • @uralink3485
      @uralink3485 5 років тому +16

      I would be happy if Young Link used the Fierce Deity when doing that final smash, I wouldn't mind even if it was the same final smash, just using the Fierce Deity would make it more different.

    • @equinox-XVI
      @equinox-XVI 5 років тому +12

      They should've gone with the train from Spirit Tracks
      It would've been awesome if I could throw some on the rails and hit em either the Spirit Train

  • @Yilmaz1903Vurucu
    @Yilmaz1903Vurucu 5 років тому +70

    Young Link is cool
    Toon Link is awesome
    Both are great :)

    • @dashmasterboss8251
      @dashmasterboss8251 5 років тому +1

      tell that to characters with bad disadvantage or neutral

  • @devanarcher7054
    @devanarcher7054 5 років тому +122

    Another big reason they aren't echoes is because their hurtboxes are so different. (And only because clones from WiiU/3DS onward are considered Echoes)

    • @AlexEXE
      @AlexEXE  5 років тому +20

      True! There are quite a lot more of differences if you start to get into the nitty gritty.

    • @devanarcher7054
      @devanarcher7054 5 років тому +2

      @@AlexEXE Yep, especially combo potential

    • @arctc2195
      @arctc2195 5 років тому +3

      Devan Archer and also their skeleton

    • @kayden2119
      @kayden2119 5 років тому +7

      Devan Archer I mean it doesn’t have anything to do with the Wii U 3ds thing. They just aren’t similar at all ask any competitive player and they will tell you these two characters have almost nothing in common

    • @eyeccantseeyouu
      @eyeccantseeyouu 5 років тому +1

      And their head size

  • @MrJostur
    @MrJostur 5 років тому +54

    Man, I wish Young Link had his sword and shield from Majora's Mask.
    (Not the ones you can get later in the game.)

    • @rowenl3793
      @rowenl3793 5 років тому +1

      Same

    • @anibalhyrulesantihero7021
      @anibalhyrulesantihero7021 4 роки тому +2

      But Ocarina of Time is his debut.

    • @MrJostur
      @MrJostur 4 роки тому +11

      @@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 Yeah, but at the beginning of Majora's Mask, he was well-equipped, experienced, and seemed a bit more mature as a result of his experiences. It was essentially "Young Link in his prime."
      _Plus it looks way better than what looks to be a plank of wood shaped _*_like_*_ a shield, and a dagger carved into shape by a fuckin' shank._

  • @cailieisidro5758
    @cailieisidro5758 5 років тому +43

    This is a good video. I already saw the difference between Young Link and Toon Link's jump, speed, and smash attacks.

  • @_guy123
    @_guy123 5 років тому +69

    I played OoT 3D and fell in love with the game. Maining Young Link was my destiny.

  • @ron_ald323
    @ron_ald323 5 років тому +77

    They definitely made Toon Link floatier because he’s from *WIND* Waker...
    *ok I’ll stop*

  • @retierashia
    @retierashia 5 років тому +39

    Great video but.. who's out here saying Young Link and Toon Link should be Echo fighters??
    They're _really_ different characters..

    • @appliedatoms7066
      @appliedatoms7066 5 років тому +6

      People are just frustrated that the echo fighter concept basically got wasted.
      Think about it: this is the best rebranding of an unpopular concept I've seen since WoW's rest mechanics. People used to *hate* clone characters, but now people want more. And for new ones we got like half a dozen, and some are so similar they're practically skins (Daisy and Richter) while Ken is so different he barely qualifies.

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 5 років тому +2

      @@appliedatoms7066 The difference between them beeing Echoes and them beeing Skins are the Taunts, Victory Poses and Idle Animations

    • @robmurray9522
      @robmurray9522 4 роки тому

      Also toon Link is a god.

  • @Unpixelt
    @Unpixelt 5 років тому +65

    As someone who plays Toon Link regularely, I can only say, that he feels very different compared to Young Link. I guess they have similiar tools, but both of them play like completely different characters imo.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +2

      Tink is a zoner, Yink is a rushdown.

    • @manongraymond5481
      @manongraymond5481 4 роки тому +11

      @@kreive4719 both of them are zoners lmao

    • @anibalhyrulesantihero7021
      @anibalhyrulesantihero7021 4 роки тому +1

      They're both good at being rushdown and defensive but I feel like Young Link does a slightly better job of being defensive.

  • @GamerBlazened
    @GamerBlazened 5 років тому +27

    "What's the difference between Young and Toon Link"
    The people asked this, have you fought against either of them? HAVE YOU SEEN TOONS SPAM ARROW???

    • @AnaroshScend
      @AnaroshScend 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, that would be me for gimps

  • @alexanderharrison7421
    @alexanderharrison7421 5 років тому +132

    Link: Zelda, those children are fighting again

    • @omegalilbchass8270
      @omegalilbchass8270 5 років тому +28

      Young link: i stopped the moon from crashing what did you do?

    • @netrixmazers4943
      @netrixmazers4943 4 роки тому +21

      @@omegalilbchass8270 Toon link- I flooded a whole entire continent with a talking boat

    • @sliceninja4546
      @sliceninja4546 4 роки тому +10

      Zelda: let them be. Im sure they will calm down eventually...

    • @Woodenblab
      @Woodenblab 4 роки тому +2

      @@netrixmazers4943 botw link:i died after ganon came and decided he owned the technology that was thousands of years old and killed everyone and cried my self to sleep for 100 years and i am still somehow 17

    • @halallink2003
      @halallink2003 Місяць тому

      ​@@omegalilbchass8270 Toon Link: I STABBED GANONDORF RIGHT THROUGH THE SKULL!
      Ganondorf suddenly hearing this and having a traumatic flashback of his wind waker form and then sobs

  • @awesomedude5558
    @awesomedude5558 5 років тому +143

    Toon Link: Attacks are a bit weaker, but can actually kill.
    Young Link: Can combo easily, attacks are stronger, but struggles to kill.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +13

      Young Link can kill pretty easily, he just has to setup his kills unlike the other Links. Like how Down-smash will kill fairly early near ledge, same with Up-B and N-Air and F-Air.

    • @HK-07
      @HK-07 4 роки тому +8

      Adult/Botw link: Attacks are strong can combo and kill

    • @anibalhyrulesantihero7021
      @anibalhyrulesantihero7021 4 роки тому +5

      @@HK-07 But his heavier and more laggy.

    • @bunder6298
      @bunder6298 4 роки тому +5

      Anibal Osbaldo but being heavy is a good thing. Not to mention Link has one of the best fast falls in the game and a good recovery when he has access to bomb.

    • @anibalhyrulesantihero7021
      @anibalhyrulesantihero7021 4 роки тому +4

      @@bunder6298 I know. But most of his attacks are much slower and easier to punish making some moves unsafe.

  • @devinmontoya5229
    @devinmontoya5229 5 років тому +21

    Me: Watching the video
    The links: YAAAAA

  • @xomvoid_akaluchiru_987
    @xomvoid_akaluchiru_987 5 років тому +9

    A little side note. Young links down air speed can be controlled. As you can fast fall while performing is

  • @MySilentGaming
    @MySilentGaming 5 років тому +63

    I personally enjoy playing Toon Link more. His special moves in my opinion better for to me for some follow ups since they're so slow and campy in a way.

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 5 років тому +10

      Not at all, Yink is the one who has more followups
      He is built around low knockback for combos, while Tink is about zoning

    • @MySilentGaming
      @MySilentGaming 5 років тому +7

      @@andreazhab That's fine, but like I said in my comment, "imo". I prefer Tink for a lot of reasons.

    • @chocobovonhauske8518
      @chocobovonhauske8518 5 років тому +4

      @@andreazhab debatable, while Arrows are muuuuch better in yink's favor, boomerang has more hitstun, better angle and less DI-able, tink's bombs come out faster, explode easier when contacting surfaces, so even if you miss by a little bit they can hit your opponent, have better knockback angle, better hitbox, better hitstun and less DI-able again, plus since they last longer without exploding you can mix them better, add tink's better ground/air speed and range and you have better follow ups, as for tilts, while yink's up tilt doesn't combo tink's does, and the other way around with down tilt. So imo Tink has far better confirms (plus better kill power) and 2 to 3 hit combos, but yink has better and longer damage strings, with higher damage output with each individual attack and a lot better pressure with the reduced landing lag and falla speed/short hop that he has.

    • @andreazhab
      @andreazhab 5 років тому +3

      @@chocobovonhauske8518 Tink is super floaty and, while he does have better kill power than Yink, he has a lot less kill setups and/or confirms because of the lack of low hitstun moves (yink has fair1, bair1, fire arrows, grounded spin attack) and his moves have much more diagonal knockback, which makes it a lot harder to pull out combos from. Yink's knockbacks are mostly vertical and near him and arrows has a LOT of hitstun, while still making the opponent travel a short distance even at higher percentages. This is why Yink is the best at followups: he has insane damage but low knockbacks while having a lot of kill setups (also, their range is identical). What Tink has in its favor is less ending lag in its grounded moves, more kill power and a kill throw (even though Yink can kill with uthrow and fthrow at the ledge at higher percentages), a better zoning potential thanks to his bigger and long-lasting projectiles, but he relies too much on uptilt to combo and that fails to do so at mid to high percentages. Also, the fact that bombs explode immediately is not necessarily a better thing: it doesn't allow him to set ledge traps that Yink can do by z-dropping bombs at the ledge

    • @thepageturner1149
      @thepageturner1149 5 років тому +10

      @Red Sprite 01001100 YOu suCk

  • @cyber895
    @cyber895 5 років тому +4

    I think it's awesome that they're both in the same Smash Bros. game as separate characters. Think I prefer using Young Link a little bit more; as I very much missed his playstyle from Melee. I like Toon Link but wish his down-air bounced him back up like it did in Brawl and his new Fsmash always throws me off since I got used to him always doing two strikes. Great video! Please do more!

  • @llliwwille
    @llliwwille 5 років тому +27

    As a Toon Link main since brawl don’t think you covered enough of the differences

    • @zackswitch9656
      @zackswitch9656 5 років тому +7

      It's a hard life for us Toon link mains.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +4

      As a Young Link main, I agree. Toon Link's F-tilt hits behind him and comes out faster, Yink's boomerang does more damage the closer Yink is to the opponent along with more knockback. Toon Link is heavier and his grounded attacks have less start-up and end lag. Yink's bombs don't hurt no matter how close you are if they hit the enemy, and because of their shorter fuse they're better for recovering and since they explode faster Yink will be able to pull out more during the same time. Toon Link's bombs are better for ledge-trapping with their longer fuse and bigger explosion. Toon Link's spin attacks comes out faster and kills grounded while Yink's travels up wards more making it kill in the air rather than the ground. There's a lot to cover between the two.

  • @navenzombie9899
    @navenzombie9899 5 років тому +87

    I honestly Main Toon Link because I think he’s more adorable

    • @navenzombie9899
      @navenzombie9899 5 років тому +12

      Red Sprite 01001100 whelp

    • @afsilver07
      @afsilver07 5 років тому +20

      @Red Sprite 01001100 You are in the hunt for TL mains I see

    • @treemannick2969
      @treemannick2969 5 років тому

      I most definitely agree.

    • @faviolagonzalez2997
      @faviolagonzalez2997 5 років тому

      I agreee lol

    • @jtwk3400
      @jtwk3400 5 років тому

      Felipe Correa I main ness what do u think about me

  • @Jarv27
    @Jarv27 5 років тому +1

    you should definitely keep doing these comparison videos, they are really well done!

  • @equinox-XVI
    @equinox-XVI 5 років тому +50

    1:43 This man gonna talk about Young Links d-tilt setups but not Toon Links up tilt setups?!
    Videos biased

    • @Churrros
      @Churrros 5 років тому +14

      Also skipped over toon looks forward air and how strong it is, he only payed attention to ylink

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 5 років тому

      ... Like?

    • @blast5734
      @blast5734 5 років тому +8

      He also didn’t focus that toon link’s grounded up b comes out 3 frames faster than young link’s. And the combo potential toon link has with any of the moves. Listening to the video itself, he makes toon link sound like one of the worst characters in the game

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +2

      He talks about Young Link more since he is a newer character technically, and people would like to know about him more since Toon has been here since Brawl and Young was only here for Melee, which he wasn't popular in, and Ultimate, where he is currently the strongest Link.

    • @Woopbang
      @Woopbang 5 років тому +2

      He also doesnt talk about how you can tap down again with young link to make his Down air sink fast.

  • @Donuts1900
    @Donuts1900 День тому

    Cool video! I had no idea these two characters were so different.

  • @kendrick5501
    @kendrick5501 5 років тому +7

    Missed out how Young Link's Spin Attack actually has combo potential like up b (Spin Attack) to up air
    Nice how u pointed how they're not considered echoes. Would be nice to see u do Doc and Pichu as they also have a similar case as Young Link since people think these 2 should be considered echoes when they too also play and feel too differently from Mario and Pika

  • @MonadoJoJo
    @MonadoJoJo 5 років тому

    This is the first video I have seen of yours, and I loved it! Thanks for covering this, and I look forward to seeing mire of your videos

  • @reigjinokou7035
    @reigjinokou7035 5 років тому +112

    Like the content, but I feel it would work best with a sister series with the same analysis on the actual echos. I honestly feel that Roy and Chrom have more differences than Pichu and Pikachu, for example.

    • @AlexEXE
      @AlexEXE  5 років тому +11

      Thanks, I'll keep that in mind - I'd be open to doing a video like this for Roy and Chrom as well!

    • @SonicmaniaVideos
      @SonicmaniaVideos 5 років тому +10

      You "FEEL" it...
      But what you "FEEL" is wrong, doe.

    • @Coolmar15
      @Coolmar15 5 років тому +12

      The differences between Chron and Roy are :
      The fire effects for Roy, the sweet/sour spots damage for Roy's sword (Chrome don't have sweet/sour spots damage with his sword) and obviously the Up special.
      For Pichu and Pikachu :
      The height (Pichu is the lightest character of the game), their speed, their size, the electric self-damage of Pichu, the damage of their attacks, the distance of their Side and Up special (the Up special of Pichu don't do any damage to opponents) and a lot of other things.
      So it's why Chrom and Roy are echoes fighter and not Pichu and Pikachu

    • @bloodydoll5897
      @bloodydoll5897 5 років тому +1

      @@AlexEXE
      "as a roy and pika main"
      i know that other than Roy having more damage on the hilt and less on the blade, while Chrom's is consistent, their jab animation is actually slightly different. this. If I remember correctly, Chrom's animation goes slightly higher because of the way his elbow is positioned or something.
      I'm pretty sure a few of their other moves are like this too, one being forward tilt.
      Something that is very jarring for a roy main when playing chrom is his side special, double edge dance which is much less consistent than Roy's, probably due to not having the extra weaker hitboxes to keep the target close.
      Also, Chrom has more super armour on soaring slash, ten frames (1/6 of a second) and Roy has less on Blazer, although Blazer's armour begins earlier and the move also has one frame of intangibility.
      their taunts are different lol
      As for Pika and Pichu, it's a lot harder to make a definitive list of the changes in a UA-cam comment, and quite frankly, their different enough to the point where I cant bounce between the two like I can Roy and Chrom.
      The big differences though are their neutral airs are completely different, Pichu's dtilt sends straight up with seemingly less KBG, while Pika's sets Up for a tech situation at mid percents and can trip.
      Pichu does self damage
      Thunder seems faster on Pichu, and I think Pichu's always sends the same way while Pika's is determined by what side the opponent is on.
      Agility doesn't have knockback or damage, unlike Pika's Quick Attack.
      Due to the way Pichu's back air works, it's more useful as a move but both of the rats have amazing back airs.
      there's probably a lot more to the two of them..

    • @coqui9879
      @coqui9879 5 років тому

      Lynxano I’m pretty sure both of their thunders launch the direction you’re facing, regardless of which side the opponents on.

  • @saskscott26
    @saskscott26 5 років тому

    I love this series. As a casual I really like your breakdowns. Please continue if you enjoy doing these at all!

  • @ThaMxUp
    @ThaMxUp 5 років тому +5

    im a Toon Link main since brawl I honestly have always enjoyed using all the links because I just love link in general

  • @hadenrobertson8781
    @hadenrobertson8781 5 років тому +2

    A difference in the final smash of toon link and young link is that young links hit box is activated during the zoom in part.toon links starts right after the animation making it easier to air dodge than young links.Nice vid btw!

  • @mylissamarshall6647
    @mylissamarshall6647 5 років тому +338

    There's only one difference between Young Link and Toon Link:
    Young Link has no pants
    Edit: Thank you for 162 likes!

    • @yosher
      @yosher 5 років тому +9

      Mylissa Marshall the only difference that matters

    • @80sgamerdude
      @80sgamerdude 5 років тому +11

      Unless you use the cyan alt

    • @Toxin_Glitch
      @Toxin_Glitch 5 років тому +31

      *Young Link has no pants*
      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

    • @mylissamarshall6647
      @mylissamarshall6647 5 років тому +13

      @@Toxin_Glitch You pervert

    • @SjaeDanmark
      @SjaeDanmark 5 років тому +6

      @@mylissamarshall6647 it's a joke

  • @shreddleddbetter7053
    @shreddleddbetter7053 5 років тому

    I would love to see some in-depth coverage of my boi doc! Great video though, I've been wondering the differences for a while now

  • @jojo0753
    @jojo0753 5 років тому +47

    Alternate title: Mario Dies

  • @MrAboy97
    @MrAboy97 Рік тому +1

    I WASN'T expecting Young Link to reappear in Smash. 😳😊

  • @myocardia
    @myocardia 4 роки тому +9

    I like Toon Link more. He’s been my main ever since Brawl.

    • @kin5922
      @kin5922 3 роки тому

      Immediate respect.

    • @ułttimate
      @ułttimate 3 роки тому

      @@kin5922 I've mained toon link since brawl but why is that an immediate respect...?

  • @johnnycole7074
    @johnnycole7074 5 років тому

    I subscribed because of this series. Keep up the good work!

  • @1nickyross
    @1nickyross 5 років тому +92

    I like Toon Link more tbh (since he is one of my mains)

    • @thepageturner1149
      @thepageturner1149 5 років тому +10

      @Red Sprite 01001100 YOu DIsCusT mE

    • @shash._.
      @shash._. 5 років тому +2

      @@thepageturner1149 I think it was misspelled on purpose

    • @lazi2243
      @lazi2243 5 років тому +3

      @@shash._. or hes just stupid and salty

    • @thepageturner1149
      @thepageturner1149 5 років тому +2

      @@lazi2243 yeah i think so

    • @Midrule
      @Midrule 5 років тому +6

      Red Sprite 01001100 I literally see you commenting on everyone who likes toon link. Hate to break it to you, but toon link is better for killing

  • @demi172
    @demi172 4 роки тому +2

    Young Link is basically a way to say, "hey melee fans you want Link with ur moveset in smash ultimate ALONG side normal link?"

  • @kungfudragon321
    @kungfudragon321 4 роки тому +5

    6:01 Toon link is clearly superior because he can suplex his enemies

  • @AOverload
    @AOverload 5 років тому

    Great video, I'd definitely love to see more. It'd be especially useful for me as some who tries to train amiibos of characters I don't really specialize in.

  • @yoseffabudayeh3078
    @yoseffabudayeh3078 5 років тому +5

    I believe young links forward tilt don't hit from behind while toon links does

  • @taylorcorbett8848
    @taylorcorbett8848 5 років тому

    This is a really good series, there are a few subtle things I wasn't aware of

  • @arctc2195
    @arctc2195 5 років тому +2

    3:56 Also Toon Links is a reference to the final fight against Ganondorf instead of it being a reference to Zelda two, the difference is that Toon link impales Ganondorf and turns him to stone while The link from Zelda two is doing a Shovel knight and strangely young links doesn’t spike? But I think that would have it so it looks more like Zelda two

    • @Sompursone
      @Sompursone 5 років тому

      No, it's still a reference to Zelda 2. In Brawl it didn't go straight down and instead acted just like Link's. The only reason they changed it was to add another difference between them.

    • @arctc2195
      @arctc2195 5 років тому

      Sompursone no it does still function like his ultimate down air just it doesn’t hop like before after it hit

    • @_guy123
      @_guy123 5 років тому

      From Smash 4 onwards it references the Down Thrust from The Minish Cap that could be performed with Roc's Cape and right Tiger Scroll.

  • @asai6201
    @asai6201 5 років тому +1

    There are so many basic/common differences on this two Links! Whoever was thinking they didn't have differences must be a Zelda Neutral Special Spammer.

  • @Goldfire345
    @Goldfire345 5 років тому +12

    I wonder why toons forward smash got changed in ultimate it felt so weird after being so used to that double attack smash From 4

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +3

      Nintendo is attempting to make bigger differences between the Links. Link has a new bomb, hits very hard and his projectiles work differently from before, however they couldn't change him much since he was predicted to be the most popular Link so they kept his move-set the same. Tink cannot be a faster, smaller Link like before since Yink was coming back and he was the first smaller Link back in Melee, so they changed him to make him unique and not the same like in his other games. Yink is the oldest Link, so he's gonna embody the way Link used to play but still make the way he played unique to him, with classic two and three hit smash attacks, old style bombs and the like.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan 5 років тому

      @@kreive4719 "attempting"
      Barely. In fact they just doubled down on clones harder than ever this game. People ate it up though because they gave them the new "echo fighter" name.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +4

      @@MagcargoMan You make it sound like including more characters from people's favorite games was the wrong move. Just let people enjoy the amount of inclusion their favorite game gets.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan 5 років тому

      @@kreive4719 You make it sound like including lazy copypaste movesets is the right move.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +3

      MagcargoMan The echoes aren’t meant to be separate fighters, that’s why their called echoes in the first place. You and everyone else who plays the game knows this, and you criticizing them for not being completely different is just being ignorant of that fact. Some people just want to play their favorite character and echoes made it easier to include more people preferences. I don’t understand why you’re so offended by this. Not to mention that the small differences in echo fighters and their counterpart can completely change how they are played, like with Marth and Lucina.

  • @Caedynna
    @Caedynna 5 років тому

    I liked this a lot, very informative and easy to digest!

  • @AndresinReal
    @AndresinReal 5 років тому +33

    I think dr. Mario is just the old smash mario (from 64 and melee)

    • @ToasterJam
      @ToasterJam 5 років тому +4

      A bit, but he is also a little slower, his F-air doesn't spike but his D-air does, and it just feels like he's a bit weaker in general but that may just be me.

    • @lukek.8408
      @lukek.8408 5 років тому +8

      A little slower and a bunch more kill power with a worse recovery and kill throws

    • @zerofudou5689
      @zerofudou5689 5 років тому

      Just like Young Link is to Link.

    • @catandgrouper4760
      @catandgrouper4760 5 років тому

      Ramenlord fucking dogshit compared to the great combo god that is Mario.

  • @Mar1o_640
    @Mar1o_640 5 років тому

    Nice video
    Would love to see more of this type of videos

  • @kingdinamo2076
    @kingdinamo2076 4 роки тому +3

    Young link: *"I can swing my sword sword, sword my master sword sword"*

    • @Theis-sf5qy
      @Theis-sf5qy 4 роки тому

      young link doesn't use the master sword though

  • @hugocb7252
    @hugocb7252 4 роки тому

    I think this guy understates everything after watching a few of his vids

  • @goocheeno7798
    @goocheeno7798 5 років тому +10

    Why didn't you cover damage differences between them tho

    • @Michael-gi3ub
      @Michael-gi3ub 5 років тому +2

      he literally said why at the end of the video

  • @4nalyd
    @4nalyd 5 років тому

    Very educational. Thank you so much for making this video!

  • @swoan7058
    @swoan7058 4 роки тому +6

    I know this man did not just say “forward special” I don’t think there is a backward special and I feel like it would be easier to just say side special 4:44

  • @wanderer4178
    @wanderer4178 5 років тому

    Alex you make great videos can’t wait for you to get a bigger following

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono 5 років тому +4

    Young Link should’ve turned into Fierce Diety when using his Final Smash

  • @uxie4327
    @uxie4327 4 роки тому +1

    I have a cool concept: What if, instead of a Windwaker reference, they rework TL final smash into a Phantom Hourglass?

  • @mariomythes2807
    @mariomythes2807 5 років тому +7

    Young Link is my favorite along with Breath of the Wild Link (which is now the regular Link in Smash Ultimate), I never really cared for Toon Link to be honest.
    5:02 😂 I want CDI Link in Smash Ultimate.
    +Alex EXE. Do you think you can do Mario and Dr. Mario next?

  • @jeeweetheperson5695
    @jeeweetheperson5695 5 років тому +2

    Toon Link’s down air also has a small wind effect which pushes your opponent away from you if you miss your opponent at close range

  • @justsomeguy1120
    @justsomeguy1120 5 років тому +7

    Honestly, looking at all the Links now, I think I can nail down exactly what each of the 3 Links is more geared towards.
    Regular Link is more about stage control and range. His attacks and smashes have (for obvious reasons) longer reach, while also a pretty decent amount of damage (at least in my eyes). His specials are where it gets a lot more obvious, with his boomerang having the longest reach and fastest return speed, his arrows travelling the farthest and the fastest, and his bombs being centered towards high range, pretty good knockback.
    Young Link looks to be geared towards combos and close-combat control. He deals quick attacks with great follow up potential, allowing him to get enemies to high percents much quicker than the other Links. This is even represented in his bombs, with them having such a short fuse that they can only be good for a quick combo, leaving no real control over the stage. His arrows are geared towards higher damage up front, without caring too much about its knockback since it's best as a combo starter.
    Toon Link is best suited for strong attacks. With him having strong single strikes, and his specials being a bit slower and floatier. His entire moveset is floatier, and he lacks control in his dair. His playstyle doesn't need to be focused on control and combos if he just hits strong. He can even intimidate a bit with his bomb, since it has the 5 second fuse. I've heard Toon Link's hitstun is also considerably longer than young Link's (and possibly Link's, but I haven't looked in detail at the hitstun), which would account for his slow movements.
    This is all probably why most people will say Toon Link is the weakest link, since he just doesn't quite have the control that the other 2 do. That said, he is most definitely a force to be reckoned with, but sacrificing that control is a big turn off to a lot of players (me included)

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      All good points here, but Link has the highest killpower out of all of them, and another thing to note is that all of Young Links projectile will do more damage than the other Links. His arrows have the fastest charge time and will travel quicker more consistently without needing any commitment and can juggle enemies from afar, and his boomerang has the highest damage and knockback out of all of them as well. His bombs like you said are used for setting up or following through with combos but with their shorter fuse they will be pulled out much quicker than any other Link. Young Links' bombs also do have ledge trapping potential as well since they only explode when thrown with the smash stick or hitting any enemy with it, meaning you can Z-drop his bombs and cover ledges and backing off an enemy.

  • @dairyqueen8402
    @dairyqueen8402 5 років тому +1

    I loved this video. I would love to see a the same comparision video between Dr.Mario and Mario. I find those two the most interesting.

  • @GamerBlazened
    @GamerBlazened 5 років тому +6

    Young does quite a bit more damage than Toon for, I want to say, all of his moves

  • @tjtribble.
    @tjtribble. 5 років тому +2

    If you do more of these videos, then can you talk more about how the differences affect their gameplay? Like how the strengths/weaknesses differ, and just how they feel. Because you can tell us what is different about them, but we won’t understand why those differences matter, which I think is more important. Still a good video regardless though.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      I can give you some explanations if you want? I main Young Link and know everything about both of their kits.

  • @camoking3605
    @camoking3605 5 років тому +4

    I honestly feel like young link and regular link have more in common, but that's just me

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      Link and Yink have the same smash attacks, while Yink and Tink only share the Down smash and bombs.

  • @rsnbrgjrdn
    @rsnbrgjrdn 5 років тому

    Love videos like this. Keep it coming!

  • @braaandt
    @braaandt 5 років тому +3

    I feel like bc Toon Link's attacks knock them back horizontally he's more of a distanced fighter whereas Young Link is more of a combo fighter.

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      Yeah, Tink is a zoner whereas Yink is a rushdown fighter.

  • @CerealSSBU
    @CerealSSBU 5 років тому +1

    As a tink player, I went through and compiled a list of differences that you missed/things that were unclear.
    Toon Link's forward tilt has an almost straight horizontal kb angle against aerial opponents, so it can send people ad a very difficult to recover from angle, it also has less lag
    Toon Link's up tilt has noticeably less lag than yinks, giving it amazing combo potential
    Yinks fair has a lot more startup than tink's, but the way the gif is shown in the video makes it look otherwise
    Tink's upair also kills a lot earlier than yinks does

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      Toon Link's F-Tilt also hits opponents on ledge and hits behind him. Coming from a Young Link main, Toon Link has less end lag on his grounded attacks and more horizontal knockback, while Young Link has more vertical knockback and no lag at all on his aerials, and he has less knockback overall except a few moves meaning he racks up damage faster than almost any other character in the game.

  • @pine_13
    @pine_13 5 років тому +6

    I feel the biggest difference between Young Link and Toon Link is their overall play style and game plan. Tink focuses on zoning and set ups with his amazing bombs and arrows while Yink is more of a rush down character. Either way both Links are really good and accomplish different things.

  • @megadudetp
    @megadudetp 5 років тому +1

    As a toon link main I finally have something to share with my friends

  • @AverageDoctor345
    @AverageDoctor345 5 років тому +6

    Small difference that wasn't mentioned, Toon link's ftilt hits behind him and can hit opponents on the ledge while Ylink's cannot at all.

  • @tekkaikenmega509
    @tekkaikenmega509 5 років тому +1

    Great video and yes please also young link is my choice

  • @Midrule
    @Midrule 5 років тому +4

    They’re even close enough to be echoes, if anything, young link is much closer to regular link than toon. I use toon because he’s faster, can damage pretty fast, has very good defense and offense, and can actually kill unlike young link. His forward air is also way stronger.
    Also being a toon link main there are sooo many more differences with their attacks but you did you’re best

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому +2

      Young Link can kill, and at around lower percentages than you think. He's just way more technical, and uses combos to kill almost entirely. Down tilt, Up tilt, Boomerang, Bombs and Fire Arrows all are used to setup his kill moves like Up Special and Forward Air. Just from my experience, a good Yink main will be able to rack upwards of 40% on their combos and kill around 100% or slightly higher. If you can't combo with Yink or land any aerials that's when he struggles to kill. But you can also just use down air to kill around 120% or so since you can use it from short-hops with it's better control.

  • @geddyw
    @geddyw 5 років тому +2

    The link's in my opinion are how clone characters should be: using a similar moveset, but being different enough that each one has their own feel and techniques

  • @seroujghazarian6343
    @seroujghazarian6343 5 років тому +4

    Actually, Young link uses kicks djring his final smash as well

    • @funni_noises
      @funni_noises 5 років тому +2

      Serouj Ghazarian no he doesn’t he just moves his legs a bit

  • @srgab015
    @srgab015 4 роки тому

    I love the song at the end of the video, it reminds my childhood playing for hours Mega Man Legends

  • @fluffydemon1
    @fluffydemon1 5 років тому +4

    i'd play toon link but the down air going straight down immediately is something i dislike

    • @LightGameplays
      @LightGameplays 5 років тому

      I enjoy it, People don't know how to use it well. You can meteor smash people on the edge of the stage and live and it's a solid way to escape combos and land on someone spamming

    • @AnaroshScend
      @AnaroshScend 4 роки тому

      @@LightGameplays the problem is counters and platforms catch him out

  • @NewZen41
    @NewZen41 5 років тому +1

    This really wasn't a situation like Echoes. Their differences are rather easy to point out:
    -Young Link excels in combo viability, grounded movement, and overall better frame data on his normals and specials
    -Toon Link excels in aerial mobility, kill potential and keepaway since he's quick, floaty, and has good projectiles all-around

    • @kreive4719
      @kreive4719 5 років тому

      These are good points, but their projectiles are ranked based on how they work with the character, not damage or speed or range. Although Yink has the shorter range out of all the Links his projectiles work the best for his kit, all of them setting up his kill moves and juggling better from afar, letting him move in since Yink is more of a rush-down character than Tink. His boomerang has the most damage and knockback out of all the Links, his bombs have the best stun since they hit 4 times and his arrows charge the fastest meaning they will consistently fly faster and farther during a match. Tink is a bit more floaty in the air making his aerial combat the easiest and most consistent, along with having more knockback on his grounded spin attack and throws. I think a more insightful difference to tell others without going into much detail is that Tink is easier to use and kill with, while Yink has the best combos out of all the Links and requires the most skill to use well and succeed.

  • @luigiwithashotgun2196
    @luigiwithashotgun2196 5 років тому +4

    4:07 No One Gonna Mention how young link basically flashed his underwear i aint a pervert but i can tell there was nothing different about those up airs

  • @lightpool092
    @lightpool092 4 роки тому +1

    0:44 ever heard of the word heavier?

  • @AlfredoPuente8
    @AlfredoPuente8 3 роки тому +3

    50% of all Zelda characters are versions of Link.

  • @Te_LaSoul
    @Te_LaSoul 5 років тому +1

    Young link is basically what regula rlink used to be, but with more of a focus on combos. All his attacks are meant for you to rack up damage quickly. Toon link, zones a lot more, and uses the projectiles to let him get in his beefier hits. Also why his jump is much more floaty. So you can hang in the air and get an attack in if the boomerang or bomb hits. Young link is better tho.

  • @chrisvoyager
    @chrisvoyager 5 років тому +12

    "going to be focusing on gameplay differences cause that's what matters!"
    Proceeds to focus on visual differences.

  • @braunstein5645
    @braunstein5645 4 роки тому

    I love these thumbnails!

  • @kingdomheartsboy2429
    @kingdomheartsboy2429 5 років тому +6

    I am so upset with him............. he didn't go over taunts

    • @Xepent
      @Xepent 5 років тому

      Yo is it worth getting a ps4 for KH3 alone? Havent played it yet but spent a damn decade waiting for it

    • @kingdomheartsboy2429
      @kingdomheartsboy2429 5 років тому

      @@Xepent if you played the rest it because if you didn't play the rest you will just be left confused

    • @pappysoda951
      @pappysoda951 5 років тому +3

      Chris Fisk if you have an xBox you don’t need a ps4, but get a ps4 for the rest of its games, like the persona series, the danganronpa series, and much more

  • @PaperoozyProductions
    @PaperoozyProductions 5 років тому +1

    4:45 it’s called the SIDE special in- game!

  • @Rmcrace2319
    @Rmcrace2319 5 років тому +5

    Toon link is my secondary!!

    • @brados25z6
      @brados25z6 5 років тому

      @Red Sprite 01001100 get a life bro

    • @r3tr0pluto
      @r3tr0pluto 5 років тому

      BRADOS25Z STAR bro this kid plays with items xD (oof spelling error)

  • @Auberry0m0
    @Auberry0m0 5 років тому +1

    if you mained toon link in 4 which one is closer i'm having a hard time telling ik young link has toon link's old side smash

  • @Snowy167
    @Snowy167 5 років тому +3

    Young link: link, but without the epic bomb, and he small
    Toon link: floats, is small, slow ish attacks, super slow arrow, singular hit smash attack

  • @danielcerda517
    @danielcerda517 5 років тому

    You should totally do more of these!

  • @chazbutlive
    @chazbutlive 4 роки тому +3

    Sometimes he's young
    Sometimes he's hot
    Sometimes he's toon
    And sometimes he's not...

  • @eusebio04
    @eusebio04 5 років тому

    This was nice! Id like more please👀

  • @tjknight
    @tjknight 5 років тому +3

    When Tink slaps a bomb on you it doesn't hurt him I've heard

    • @colton.421
      @colton.421 4 роки тому

      Isn’t that the same for young link too

    • @tjknight
      @tjknight 4 роки тому

      @@colton.421 nope, just Toon. Yink takes damage from his

    • @colton.421
      @colton.421 4 роки тому

      TJ Knight Just confirmed it in Training Mode; it’s the same for Young Link: he doesn’t take damage when he hits you with a bomb.

    • @tjknight
      @tjknight 4 роки тому

      @@colton.421 whaa? I take self damage from his bombs all the time..maybe I'm recalling it wrong, I'll have to check. Ty

  • @stevenxenoknight3845
    @stevenxenoknight3845 4 роки тому +1

    Yes please keep doing comparison videos