My NEW Box Van! - Box Van Diaries #1
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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Regarding the gap between the brake block and the wheels (9:53), when off, the brakes should be free moving, but the gap doesn't have to be of any particular size.
As long as they are firm when applied and loose when off, they'll be fine.
At least, that's my understanding as a locomotive fireman. An experienced waggon fitter may know more.
Yeh most have said that the gap there is fine, I think once all the rust is off the wheels the gap might be slightly wider! Thank you for leaving a comment though!
I like the van Ollie and will be watching its progress along with the brake van . Now to guess what the next one will be 😮
Cheers Kev
nooooo wont be another one for a while, got plenty to do!
It's official he's now a man with two vans. Have to admit I'm a sucker for a van as well.
I also drive a van so does that make it 3?😂😂😂😂😂
@@WardleRestorations Absolutely!
Ayyy another project! Now you can create an end goal of a proper consist. Good on ya mate for keeping these stunning pieces of history alive. Can’t wait to see both progress further!
Appreciate it mate! Yeh I'm shocked this one still looks like this even after 100 years, mental!
Just found your channel because of the brake van series and I've found it fascinating.
As for livery ideas my first thought at the beginning of the video was engineers grey ( or Dutch as I've always known it as) but hearing how old it is I'd say either LNER lettering or go even older with either GER (Great Eastern Railway) or GNR (Great Northern Railway) depending on which company built it.
Loving the series and I must go back to the Colne Valley at some point.
Have a look at episode 2 of the box van series where I show what the possible new livery might look like. Glad you've found the videos interesting!
Brake lever and destination board.
Have to say if the brake comes off the wheels when released, and the mechansim doesnt bottom out when you put all your weight on the lever then it'll be fine. It's not like adjusting motorbike brakes.
Brake leaver was an obvious one I’m not sure why I didn’t know that!
@@WardleRestorations don't worry about getting tongue tied. We are all here as interested in what you are doing, not to pick you up on things. Enjoy the videos as we are .
No stopping you now Ollie. Great stuff...looks like you have a bargain there. Looking forward to seeing your progress on it now. And of course the brake van too. All the best.
Thanks as always Tim jd, lots more on the way!
Hey Ollie, love it. Looking forward to seeing more. Take care and stay safe :) :) :)
I know I keep saying it but thank you so much for the support and the donation was very kind of you sir!
This is close to becoming a set, pretty soon you’ll need a loco! What a beauty you’ve got here, love the grey but could this van be done in a NER reddish brown? Looks similar to a banana van I’ve seen before, just not sure if it’s the same type of van. Can’t wait for future updates.
Good spot, it is indeed the same design drawings as a banana van, so the possibility of that being the livery or at least an Eastern banana van livery is very high!
And a huge thank you for the donation too!!!!
Congratulations on your new find.I am looking forward to seeing much more of this new series. Very best of wishes.
Thank you very much, appreciate the kind words!
You'll be moving in soon! Nice one. Wagon No.2 eh. Look forward to seeing the progress of this one too. A HAA MGR wagon next purchase.
I might not have any choice if the other half has her way! I really want a mineral wagon but none have become available sadly.
Yer jammie bugger! Another great wagon! That steels soooo good for its age! Well done dude, can't wait to see inside!
Yeh being over 100 years old I was shocked as to how good the condition of both the metal and the wood was. Will show some of the inside in the next update!
A great new adventure, I'm partial to a box van or two myself! Missing words game, 1, Brake lever. 2. Label clip, and also, not being fitted it wouldn't have a lamp bracket on the end. I'm no GER expert, but, depending on how much you value originality, you'll need to build two sets of doors, the cupboard doors fitted were a RNAD addition for practicality and lightness.
Brake lever should have been obvious, sometimes I just loose all sense of what I'm saying/thinking when I talk! Yeh the doors will be replaced, first thing on the list of things to do!
My first thought: OH NO...
My second thought: OH YEAH!
(Literally something I'd do too XD)
Haha, only my girlfriend had your first thought, the second thought was deffo me! lol
@@WardleRestorations Ngl, I'm also looking to eventually buy some rolling stock... Particularly a box van too!
It would be quite interesting to see if I ever get the opportunity, but in the mean time I have a wagon to restore already, so I best not get too ahead of myself! XD
Great Ollie The Box Van Looks Great Looking Forward To This Project 👍
Thank you Belmont! Plenty more videos on the way!!
Absolutely awesome, just hope you don't burn yourself out trying to balance work, youtube, the brakevan and now the box van. 👍
You are a man full of surprises.
Small Peckett or Ruston or similar next ? Lol 😆 😂
Well luckily UA-cam and these wagon videos happen at the same time so its just a matter of balancing my hobby and work! haha
Hi Ollie, well done on obtaining your second railway vehicle. On the subject of liveries I would go RNAD grey this would match your brake van, as I am not sure on that the wagon doors are right for GER, you could check the style of doors on Press Steel Heritage's grounded GER van body at the railway or look at Oxford Rails new OO model. Also try the GER Society for help in numbers.
Yeh the doors were a modification added by RNAD but I plan to take these off and replace them with the original doors. The current set are rotting badly on the bottom so they were going to need changing anyway!
Hi, with ref to the coupling there should be a bar from one end to the other so to transfer the load though , check under other wagons to see. gGood luck on your project,
Thanks for the tip, I'll see if I can find similar wagons to take a look at underneath!
Not on this particular van. It was a semi common method back in the late 1800's/early 1900's of springing the draw hook.
Congratulations on your new box van. Will be great watching the process. Good luck.
Cheers Barrie! :)
Awesome stuff!! Now to get a little Ruston or industrial shunter of some kind to have a full 1:1 scale train set ;)
That would be cool, Ruston would be a great loco choice
Nice acquisition Ollie! I wouldn't be too concerned about adjusting the brakes, the gap you have there looks pretty good. For a wagon that is handbrake only I would say more than sufficient.
Cheers Ross, and that's good to hear, wasn't sure if the gap was enough but seems it will do the job!
Tut tut! Finish the other one first!
The offer was too good to pass! Don’t worry, plenty more brake van videos on the way!
Brilliant video! I actually walked past this the other day good to see another wagon undergoing restoration! All caught up now 👍
Nice one! Yeh it will look great after its had a fresh coat of paint!
Wow Ollie thats a great purchase, if you are intending to keep original hinges and nuts and bolts etc.. know a place that specialises in re furbishing old parts to make them function correctly whilst still, retaining their original appearance etc..
I'm hoping that I won't have to change any bolts at all aside some door work!
Quick Search online of this box wagon, unfortunately the photos are all black and white so almost impossible to tell what livery it carried haha but this was the info i found Built by the Great Eastern Railway at their works in Stratford,
East London. Inherited by the LNER, becoming No.531199, sold out of use to the Royal Navy, for use at the Armament Depot at Gosport, Hampshire, carrying the identity RNAD 209.
Gifted by the London Borough of Newham, to BESPS in 1996, Bar that i think this might have Carried a Grey Livery without any sort of branding
Thanks for the info! I’ll go into more detail about the liveries in the next episode!
Another great diary series in the making !! Congratulations Ollie, you look to have a very solid box van there. Looking forward to following your progress. Can't help thinking you're working your way forward, coach and loco to follow...??
A coach would be cool but I've never had much interest in coaches! maybe a CCT van or a long wheelbase van but I don't have much for a coach unless I end up sleeping in it! haha
Top work mate I’ll definitely pop down with the welder at somepoint and have a session sorting this and the brakevan!
That would be amazing mate, we'll have to find a weekend with some nice weather!
wonderful video
Cheers!
I suggest you paint it bright red with WR on the side! But it you want something more accurate, do a light gray with either GE or WR on the side. The number painted on the side should be 531199
Ha I must admit I’m thinking something bauxite brown banana van type livery as this wagon is the same design of those banana vans! There will be a WR somewhere though!
Be honest Ollie Lad, you've won the lottery and bought a full Railway haven't you?🤣👍✔️
Wouldn't be surprised if he did lol
I wish! Would certainly make for a good video hahaha
Next video: I bought a steam loco. Lol😆
I'd have doubt whether it is the original wood, planks would understandable get damaged through time.
Edit: in your last shot of you in front of the van, the leaf spring to your left (behind the hand brake lever) looks to be almost on its stop, and the buffer height looks lower than the fish van next to it which could potentially be an issue.
I had confirmed as far back as possible that other than the doors, the woodwork is original.
Awesome video
Cheers Mels!
It look like on the coupling shock theres two holes on the inboard side where a through bar might have been is there a clear path from that coupling through the frame to the other shock.
I'll have to find some similar wagons and make a comparison!
Soon you'll have a whole railway!
Haha when I win the lottery perhaps
That is a very rare vehicle original livery would be dark grey with G E on the side, search up great eastern brakevan and this should come up
You’ve confused me, this is a box van not a brake van! Haha
@@WardleRestorations oh sorry getting mixed up with our own SECR brake project, yes did mean box van
At least you avoided uploading on Friday 13th this month, lol. Fair play to you for that. Goodness knows what calamity might have befallen you.
A lucky escape lol
Brake van, box van - all you need now is a little 0-4-0 tank to lead them up and down! A 9F might be a bit of overkill! :-)
I'd love a mineral wagon or perhaps a tank wagon but a loco is a little off at the moment, yeh 9F no chance haha
I was at the Colne Valley 10 days ago. I saw your brake van, but didn't notice the box van. What I did notice was something??? with a pitched roof next to a green GUV. What the heck was/is it?
Was that over by the black 5 group? If so that’s an old snow plough now to be used as a tender!
@@WardleRestorations Thanks.
What are you like. First a brake van then a brake van. Get yourself a coach next
Never really had any interest in coaches but you never know!
Hi mate, just wandering, do you buy these outright? Or do you just have an agreement to fix them up on behalf of the railway?
Both the brake van and box van are mine, one I bought from the CVR, the other from another group, there are a couple of wagons that I’m helping with at the CVR but the 2 diary series are mine 🙂👍
I vote rail freight red stripe livery
You may be on your own there😂 although a vanwide wagon wouldn’t look bad in that livery!
If it’s unbraked it will have to be in the red or brown colour I would imagine , nice to see a new project. You intro’s are starting to get a bit long again tho 😁
Obviously the intro is going to be longer on this as it’s episode 1 of another series…
keep it in unfitted Grey Livery. and do you really have to fit brake pipe, run it unfitted with you brake van. but there again, its your wagon.
Ollie did say it needs the pipe, so it can be used in other consists that have brakes.
Yeh as @hamshackleton says, in order for me to run it on public running days it has to have at least a through pipe!
Great stuff. How do you find out where these wagons are for sale.
Just have to know the right people and offer the right amount I guess, there's no major second hand market for wagons so you have to just keep an eye out!
How much did your break van/box van cost?
That's a good question, I'm interested to know as well.
@@sapphirejunction8993 If you need to ask, you can't afford it! :-)
Cost of wagons etc isn't something I really go into on here!
Those draw bar springs need dropping and refurbishing.
The wheels require a Re profile.
How do you know?
Unless there is any severe pitting or flat spots in the tyre or if the profile is worn then there should be no need to turn it. Any rust will come off the tyre once its been moved a few hundred meters.
Matt can you come to my comment section more often please😂 it’s hard to show people through a screen the quality of various aspects, the same comments were made about the brake vans wheels and so far no issue at all with them, after some running all the rust was gone!
@@WardleRestorations haha, we have a couple of vehicles that haven't moved for the best part of 20 years with tyres that look the same. Always best to ask someone that knows what they are doing.
Are you buying an entire goods train one wagon at a time...?
If only I had the money!
Just found you. You should do GNR livery
Still very much undecided! Welcome to the channel though!
are you gonna buy a whole goods train lol
Sadly I don't have the money for that lmao
Thanks
Soon: HST Diaries.
Ha, no chance
Have you lost the plot? 😆
Nearly, 100% borderline 😂😂
🚂🚂🚂😎😎👍
But you didn't say if that was a Bachmann or a Hornby! 😂😂😂😂 Looks like less overall work than the previous... should turn into quite a looker when done!
Yeh this really won't need as much work as the brake van so hopefully I can make some quick progress on this!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't do it, it always starts with one then another then another and before long you have a heritage railway lol. Colour scheme? how do you fancy a WW1 theme, can't say i've seen many in that livery. Best of luck with it, those wheels may need some attention though.
Why do the wheels need attention? But no im not getting anymore wagons for a while, I have plenty more to be getting on with!
@@WardleRestorations the amount of surface rust on them is a bit much that's all maybe scrub them back to see if it has eaten into the wheels.
The brake van wheels looked the same before a good bit of running then they cleaned up nicely!
Thanks
Thank you good sir!