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Mini Bike High Output Charging System & Moto Vlog
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2019
- Today we install a high output charging system on the Street Legal Mini Bike!!! This kit should be coming to the market very soon. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe for more content.
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You’re keeping us all in suspense! Another vote here for more information on which flywheel and stator this is (pretty please).
I like the cdi setup. Have you ran the engine without the drive belt to see what rpm its running at full throttle? You can also mess with the torque converter for it to engage at different rpms. On a 30 series driver pulley, you need to drill holes in the weights to lighten them. This will make it engage at a higher rpm. Also you can tighten the spring in the driven pulley, sometimes you need to drill a small hole to set the spring in a different position. That will keep it from going into high gear as fast. For some applications they are fine as they are, but i usually end up adjusting mine to get them exactly how i want them. Looking forward to seeing how the clutch performs.
I cant get my TC to engage at lower rpms like I want it to. Tightening the chain helped a little. Ive got a good idle speed...Idk what I'm missing. Can anyone help? Coleman CT200U with Chikuni VM22 from Amazon
You should do a video demonstration of all this.....I'm sure plenty of people would appreciate it
Where can I buy the flywheel
Somebody needs to start manufacturing a transmission for these damn things.
More weight, more money
@@bionicvenom wouldn't it be worth it tho?
@@BigRig003 The transmission would cost more than the engine, you'd better off buying a dirtbike if you want whistles and gadgets. These are built to be dirt cheap, also you'd have to do fabrication to make it fit inside a minibike frame.
@@BigRig003 I would say so because it wouldn’t have to be expensive like even a high/low or 3 speed would be good
We are going to do some CVT testing in the next video so stay tuned!
Have you seen the bushings the lock out the engagement just before over drive
Red Beard put a hard (off road) or white spring in the driven pulley and a 9t gear that will allow your engine to rev higher before the cvt changes to high gear. I got that set up in my 3203 yerf dog and it does 45mph with 2 adults riding on it and also does great in the sand trails. But be careful that mini will be a wheelie machine!
Yeah we have some made we are going to test out in the next video
Can't wait I have some in shopping cart waiting looking forward to seeing the results
@@RedBeardsGarage have you considered sprocket changes to improve top speed and upgrading to a 40 series and swap to a 420 non Hemi engine more horsepower from the start and set the engine the same way as your current engine a stock 212 makes about 8 horsepower but a 420 makes around 12 to 13 horsepower a 420 non hemi with the same setup as your current engine could put out around 15 to 16 horsepower and probably 22 to 25 foot pounds of torque and have a top speed of maybe 55 to 60 mph with a 13 tooth sprocket on the transmission side and a 47 tooth sprocket on the rear wheel side be a lot closer to a real motorcycle as far as gearing is concerned.
were did u get the flywheel??? you dont have it listed in the description
I'd like to see a substantial gear change on that CVT. That may be the best choice overall.
Love the moto's I would like to see drag racing at the airport it would be a blast
Any chance there is a link for the flywheel if the whole kit isn’t available? I don’t see it listed in the parts list.
Did you find the flywheel I’m looking for one also
Fr, the one part I need for the system to come together, where did homie find an 11k rpm flywheel with magnets all around
I don't see a link for the fly wheel and ignition system. I'm very interested in those items. P.s you should build another trike. That was my favorite build. Have a good one!
It will be available in the next couple of weeks. Im working a few details out before launching it. There will be a video posted when its available for purchase.
@@RedBeardsGarage I don't suppose you can use that flywheel with the original charging coil?
Ya please let us kno where we can Purchase the charging system
Is there a link for it now?
Where is it
So crazy!!! I won't use road names as to not disclose your location but when you had turned on the backroad to latch your helmet you said, if you would have kept on going thru the first intersection you could been by my house!! Love the build, and all the others of course.
where did he get the flywheel from
That is awesome bud she cruises pretty good 🤘🏻🐿🤘🏻
For those asking about that set up, this is what I did to get a steady 13.8 to 14 1/2-ish volts on an electric start Tillotson 212 with the factory flywheel:
- Honda 31630-ZE2-861 Coil Charge (10A)
- 1PZ FW1-R01 4-Pin 12V Full-wave Motorcycle Voltage Regulator Rectifier
That coil is designed to put out something like 28 to 30V and 10A. it fits under the fly wheel. Snugly, but it does fit.
The rectifier regulator is a full wave type, so it definitely doesn’t leave me undervoltage. I don’t know what it is rated for, amps-wise, but I guess I will see if it holds up.
Hopefully whatever the amp output is is enough to charge a lithium battery and run some lights, and isn’t too much to burn out the rectifier regulator or battery.
How's it holding up?
So far, so good. I upgraded the headlight bulb to a 25w LED, the light’s on whenever I’m riding it, I use the electric start, and the battery’s stayed charged so far.
@@johnthomas9854 did you ever actually meter the output? And you're using stock 212ee tillotston flywheel?
Just curious cause I'm def looking to do a more legit light and brake light + e start combo and don't wanna have to bench charge the battery
Red Beard put a hard (off road) spring in the driven pulley and a 9t gear that will allow your engine to rev higher before the cvt changes to high gear. I got that set up in my 3203 yerf dog and it does 45mph with 2 adults riding on it and also does great in the sand trails. But be careful that mini will be a wheelie machine.
exactly what i did to my 3203 yerf dog. it will pull the front wheels off the ground with a stock 212cc if you time the gas right lol. is also way too fast for the stock drum brake haha.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 Yeah same here. Im planning into upgrading to a hidraulic brake.
@@billwilliamson9842 yes you can. But a white spring makes it even better
3 years down the road, is this an available product yet? This is exactly what I need for my adventure-style Hurricane. Electric start, full lights, the works. The stock charging system keeps up(ish) on long rides but I still find myself using the pullstart more than I like to.
What's up with that flywheel? I need one for my bike. Iwanna go faster safely with my charging system
That was great. I really like the look of that bike.
Why not up the rear sprocket a couple teeth to lower the gear ratio a bit? Just curious... great video funny as always! Love your Content Sir!! Keep em comin!
My thought exactly
Any updates on this system?
WHERE DID THE FLYWHEEL COME FROM? ANY INFO? BRAND? PART NUMBER? you were super faige about the details of that awesome flywheel
Your the reason im getting into mini bikes. But being new to small engines and this genre, i have no idea where im going or doing. Love the videos and still waiting on the next one
Fr
That flywheel Don't exist!!
@@donaldrush5760 or this guy is a dumbass not putting a fucking link
Where to I find this charging system? No link in the discription
Bike looks awesome its fast enough for around town im doing something similar here in Arizona want mine to look similar to your bike
The sound was very good and your voice clear on the riding portion of the video
Man I think it's gonna be a real booty spanker when the clutch goes in but I am still rooting to see a V-twin bike build maybe water cooled with a 2 or 3 speed trans.... would be saaaaweeeetttt!!! A talented fabricator and builder like you could definitely pull that off Greg! RGB rocks!
... you may not have a sister, but there are tons of brothers here in Detroit that'll welcome you with open arms! Bring this bike to Detroit and let's ride!
Is the flywheel still available ? I haven't been able to find anything for a higher RPM to fit a predator that has the mags on the inside
i love the moto style vlogs. Good work, keep em coming.
Who makes the flywheel kit ?
If you put a Max Torque clutch on get the 16T as far as I know it only comes with a 1” shaft hole so if your crankshaft is 3/4” you’ll need a sleeve and throw around a 50T rear sprocket then you will be able to run at around 60 mph.
You never did post a video of the wiring set up
I'm still waiting for it
Fr tho.
Any update on a possible release for the charge system kit?
dying for this!
There isn't any I. tried every body under the Sun to get this too!!!
I'm lovin it bro and can't wait to see the awesome RGB bike getting with it with the new Max Torque clutch set up also catching the install video! As always another great install video keep em coming and God bless
Thanks for bringing back one of my favs....I bought a mini bike to work on after finding you and then others recently on youtube, and I thought I understood the clutch v torque converter, but now I'm not so sure. Video idea- can you brake down the considerations when deciding on clutch, racing clutch, versus converter and in the same conversation engine selection? For example, the decision tree someone would go through when they have a stated goal. If I want this mini bike to do at least XX mph, or have XX torque to climb hills, what are my options and then factor in price of those options. Doing a stage 3 build on a 212 does not seem nearly as economical as just buying a 301 off the bat, but with all the options out there its hard to decide what combo to go for. Thank for all you do!
Thats a gy6 style charging and ignition system, cool. I wonder how many rpms that flywheel can safely handle.
he said 11k rpm
@@frigglebiscuit7484 ups didnt heard that part. Thanks. Im getting 2 when they come out then 👍
I'm wondering what [EXPLETIVE] flywheel that is!
That system sure would be nice on my upcoming 212 hemi predator build. It's going on a mega moto 212 .
I loved this whole build. Coming from stock.
Get a noram 1600 clutch or a noram enforcer. I have a 1600 with plain springs so engage at 2400rpm on my vertical shaft motorcycle. But ima prob change to an enforcer cause these vertical shaft engine have a load of torque.
Who makes the cdi, and flywheel?
Hey @Red Beard's Garage I am doing a mb200 Tilly e start build like this and would really be interested in the flywheel and coil part names or numbers as I want to run head/tail and then signals aswell as e start and don't want the charging system to be able to keep up. Please hook us up brother.
I love my cvt. Prefer it over the Jack clutches. Jack's cost a lot more to replace when burn out over a belt on the cvt. Either way it's a mini bike. At some point one spends more money trying to get motorcycle power out of a Chinese lawnmower engine.
it's a minibike. At some point one spends more money trying to get motorcycle power out of a Chinese lawnmower engine. That's me man!! Ha
Red link to the charging coil and flywheel
Link to parts RBG?
Hey Red Beard !! Let me know where the tank came from, please.
I'd like to know as well
hey man love your videos but is it possible to share what flywheel electronic and coil your using please.
What's the status one releasing the info on this setup....I need it for some builds that I have going on....
#stopgatekeeping
I have a question that may sound stupid, but here goes. I have an older MB200 with the centrifugal clutch. When the rear squats on a bump or going around corners, the chain gets loose and comes off. I talked to the owner of the local go kart shop, and he said they quit selling them years ago because of that problem. I wondering if anybody knows a fix? I'm thinking of trying a spring loaded chain tentioner, or if all else fails, turning it into a hard tail. Any suggestions?
Try a 9 tooth / 60 tooth setup!! It really helps.
Has this kit every become available?
I actually love this mini bike
Any one know where i can just get frame? Have ct200u ex that they did not weld to well pop right on seam. Think like swap over part to MB200.
I have a Trailmaster that I'm modifying for a 301. It's almost done but the gas tank but I don't see that in the description.
I cant find the CDI system where did you get it I want to put it on my bike
I wanted something like this to come out for ever. Will probably buy more than 1. Would be great if they releases a programmable ignition for it with adjustable rev limiter too. I have a 224cc stroker motor I wanted a charging system on that I am un able to run a governor on cuz it will be revving to 7k. This system would be great with the gy6 fuel injection swap too.
I've had this before. In order to go faster, gear down and increase engine speed. This boosts the rpm into a higher power range, allowing more rpm, allowing more hp, allowing more speed, and so on. You can tell it is seriously bogging down. The torque converter is not the problem it is low RPM. You are driving around in over-drive pulling a trailer, uphill, against the wind.
Any updates on the kit ?
You need a manual trans engine on that sucker like a 150 dirt bike motor or something. Maybe a ttr230 motor would be sick and youd absolutely fly on that thing if you wanted to but the manual transmission would allow you to stay at whatever speed you wanted and not worry.
Pretty cool building a complete package mini bike men.
What are you usig to film ? Quality is crazy good
Go pro 7 black
Hey Red Beard, I have successfully put a 301 on a MB200.
RBG love your videos. Well thought out. I was wondering when is that charging system is going to be available? I'm going to modify a billet flywheel for a predator 212 in order to run it.
that bike would be awesome with some sort of transmission on it maybe a old harley 4 spd ?🤔🤔🤔🤔 keep up the good work guys love the videos and a big insperation
That starts to get away from what it is though. If you want a small shifter bike, the market is flooded with them
The gap under the gas tank above the engine is too big. I would put something there like a tool kit in there or raise the engine or something to close the gap and make it cleaner
I need a link to that cdi kit that you used because I can’t find one that you have that bolts to the engine next to the flywheel like you have
Is the high output kit available yet
? Since your using a torque converter instead of using a different clutch couldn’t you just change the rear sprocket ⚙️ to smaller and increase the tooth jackshaft sprocket so your not losing your torque and still achieve higher speeds just curious
Would my torque converter blow up at 10,000 rpm in the 1/8th mile or should I just get a racing clutch?
A torque converter would never get to 10k. It would hold at around 5k
Red Beard's Garage thanks for the feedback
I saw where you said that the company went out of business, but do you still have part numbers? Maybe I could find them second hand.
Where did u get that charging system and cdi kit
No links for the flywheel and charging system. No mention of what they are either.
Links for the flywheel and CDI never appeared on the page.. Where can I find that flywheel??
Put lighter weights in the drive pulley of the CVT. It will get the revs up and make more hp before it gears up.
Fly wheel we’re do ya get ???
Did they ever start selling these id really like to get one
Would love the to know the details of this charging system and flywheel. I think he forgot about this project from the comments as its been over a year.
Where did you get that cool pull start
very nice, any link to the link for the CDI, charging system and flywheel?
Did you ever find this? I'm looking for it too.
Will this work on predators or is this the 196cc megamoto engine
Nice bike you do great work God bless
what flywheel are you using for this build? want to be able to do this
Hi mate how are you going with the kit? And what's the price on the kit? And would you or the supplier be able to send to Australia?.
Just curious if the rectifier prevents over charge of the battery, or is that even necessary ?
Have you seen the juggernaut torque converter? I hear good things about that one at high rpms. I have a similar one to the one you have and I feel it top out at 5000 rpm.
Have you tried different springs on the CVT? I changed mine around on our 71 SUZUKI RV90 swap to get it right. I have a firm spring and a medium that allow it to spool up into the powerband and maintain top speed on hills.
Where can I find that gas tank
Could you put like 35 tooth sprocket on the rear so you'll have more top end and still have your low end from the cvt or would that work
I want to put a 212cc predator on a small motorcycle . I know I won't be able to shift . But that would be fine on it
i love youre vids.
I like the moto keep going with it
The street legal stuffs grate.
GY6 50 flywheel with fin and ring gear mod????
RBG has maxed out the 30 series torque converter and a 212cc displacement is to small for what he’s trying to do with this bike but if he changed the front and rear sprockets to a 45 at the rear and 13 to 15 tooth at the front and upgrade the engine to a predator 420 non hemi with the same setup as his current engine with a 40 series torque converter and upgrade the drive pulley spring with a heavier set so the drive pulley engages to full power at a much slower rate and stay out of overdrive longer basically his current torque converter is hitting full power way to fast.
Do I have to upgrade the valve springs in my mini bike if I install a torque converter
Would be nice to have that kit!
you didn't link anything for the parts used in this do have links for the ignition/charging system?
What flywheel and stator is that? You don't have it linked and I have the same engine and trying to achieve the same ending result as you.
If there were a way if manually controlling the CVT, like some cars simulate gear changes! Someone needs to work on that!!!
That would change the game if you could figure that out
I'm running a Tillotson 212, billet rod, governor delete, Tillotson Bansai .265 wide powerband low duration cam, and Tillotson TCT carb, mild porting, header, 28 degree advance PVL flywheel. On a Coleman ex, 240 lb. rider, I get 43 mph and it stays that way with the clutch downshifting with increased rpms going up a hill. It pulls regardless until the cam runs out. What's the duration of that cam? Seems to be all top end and the cvt won't let it even get close to the powerband. I'm running a rpm restrictive carb and cam for low and mid-range power up to 5000-5500 rpm. How much initial timing you running? Something doesn't seem to be working with that set up. Mines scary quick and the carb is restrictive as hell. I also use a green comet secondary spring and adjusted it for delayed shift.
What are the parts used for this? I do not see them in the description. I have a 196 clone and want to keep the charging system to run lights, but also remove the govenor and be safe.