Decade worth of incredibly poor products, cheaply made, and you wonder why 5s and 6s exist? Flimsy card stock, lazy photography and 10 years of junk wax, and you send this in to be graded?!?!?!
7s and 8s are most common grades for the 80s and early 90s cards even if you think they look great. So getting a 9 is a big hit and 10 is like a dream hit. I've graded many 80s and 90s cards and i use an 8 as what to hope for and anything better is really great.
Have so many of these cards. Thought they were in good condition but seeing grading criteria realizing they wouldn't get good grades. After 40 years of being in binders and played with as a kid
Nice set of hall of famers!!! I sent the same Mattingly years ago. It came back a 4!!! Oh well, I collect cards. I never plan to sell them. Just keep them and give them to my son when the time comes.😂😂
I've been around for a long time, and I seek out SGC for vintage cards (definitely the most consistent grades for vintage) and Beckett for modern cards (with subgrades)...I have no problem buying a PSA graded slab as well...
Look at that 'stache on Maddux! Love that you submitted all these. I just broke some old sets that I've had since a kid also and even though they are junk wax it's cool to see them so crisp. I've got my first PSA sub coming soon too - very curious to see how it goes. I've got about a 70% gem 10 rate with SGC so far and interested to see if I do better or worse with PSA.
I am a Bo Jackson collector, I normally get a grade lower than expected on 80s cards. I have gotten a few random low grades feels like POP control. On 90-91 Tiffany cards I have gotten a lot more 10s.
I have some very very nice pack pulled 80s cards that came back as 7s or 8s with one 9. They are near mint at least, but i feel worth less ungraded. They have 9 maybe 10 eye appeal. It was the last time i used psa. Ive been submitting since the 90s. I agree, it feels they are stingy with their 10s if it isnt a newer card.
geez, I've been contemplating getting very similar rookies from the mid 80s to early 90s for a few years now and I'm not sure the investment into the slabs would be worth it. Half of those cards you got graded are the same ones I have put aside in card savers waiting to get graded but I'm still on the fence.
How many cards do the grader damage? What is the recourse? Like what if you submit a perfect Rookie Rickey that should be a 9or 10 and comes back 7 w/a finger corner YOU KNOW wasn’t there, wtf do u do about it? I hear that going with a bulk submitter company gets better grading, that true in general? Seems like they literally closed the door on pre-80’s 10s no matter how great they may be. It feels a lot like “holding” in the NFL, where you can ALWAYS find something to justify calling holding on someone. The same as you could literally take ANY 10 as no find some tiny reason to make it a 9. EVERY ONE OF THEM. Anytime you mix money and judging, there will be done element of dishonesty being attempted. Like, whoever just invested in a rookie Rickey 10, they don’t want PSA to grade any more 10s. THE graders being mindful of the impact their 10 grades might have on the value of low-pop-10 cards automatically creates a conflict of interest in the mind of the grader. Like if they know there is no 10 grade for a 1962 card, and they get one, they will be looking for reasons it can’t be a 10. This is why AI, in this respect, would be superior to human beings. As far as the technical aspects like percentage of original surface ink remaining on a card. And relativity when comparing cards, using a curve grading for each individual card. I have a 7” screen microscope, which is pretty awesome for checking corners and edges, even sideways in the edges, which my microscope allows for room to turn cards on edge. Even perfect looking corners often have micro creasing, which I believe is from putting the cards in sleeves and pockets and removing them from sleeves and pockets. Basically any time you touch a card, assume you have micro-damaged it in some fashion. If a card is moving in the open air it is dying and vulnerable. Looking at cards through a low magnification let’s you really see what a legit sharp corner looks like and a faux one. Some are truly pristine white filling all the way to the edges with no edge cracking, which is hard to find 4 of those corners in like a 78 topps Baseball card. Under magnification they all look bad, so you look at it through a curve. Like anything, you adjust interpretation of what is good and not good. Old cards are usually littered with tiny ink splatter marks all over, which the naked eye doesn’t pick up. Until you see it magnified, and then you can kind see it w the naked eye. It tells you where to look closer. The problem with it is you start thinking nothing can be a ten. I would LOVE to be able to get 8, 9 &10 grades from the same card 15 years apart and examine them all to see how they stack up to each other. Meaning is a 10 from ‘03 like a 10 from ‘23? Or is it like a 9 from ‘23? Or vice versa? Someone needs to audit the graders so we know if we’re talking apples to apples. Do they put a “date graded” anywhere on the slabs?
Great vid! PSA is lacking bigtime, your first card shown (Griffey Jr.) is off center in its slab, really off center. I've been having a hard time with PSA's quality as of late. Specialty cards like Mother's Cookies, Hostess bakery and Total Cereal cards produce in limited volumes but have crappy card stock.
PSA is so random. Your 10 in oc top to bottom and some of your other stuff probably deserved higher. I’ve sent perfect stuff in and got 9 and seen 10s for sell with edge issues. I’d crack the 9 and resubmit.
Always hard to watch these PSA videos, watching a guy see his prized possessions valued lower than he expected. He got a 10 on the worst player in the set.
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PSA is brutal man … I’ve sent 2 shipments of cards in for grading (about 45 cards) and am never sending another order to them.
PSA hands out 10's for modern era cards like candy. Once they get their hands on some 80's cards then they actually start doing their job lol
Modern cards have the benefit of better technology in the printing process and also not being 30 years old 😂
Of course, it could also be the case that modern cards are more likely to be in Gem Mint condition.....
Decade worth of incredibly poor products, cheaply made, and you wonder why 5s and 6s exist? Flimsy card stock, lazy photography and 10 years of junk wax, and you send this in to be graded?!?!?!
Yup, they f’ed up and graded fakes etc and it sure seems like they are now keeping pop down. BGS sub grades is so handy
Well done for first submission. I love these kind of cards. Cool video!
This is awesome. Excited to see more. Congrats on the 10!
You did well for a first submission. Those 9's and Bonds are great grades. Hang on to those...
Those cards look damn good for 7's!!! Seems suspect to me. They got Helen keller down there grading cards.
Nice I love the cards from the 1980's
They grade vintage with the same brush as a modern card. Other than being on cardboard, it's apples to oranges.
7s and 8s are most common grades for the 80s and early 90s cards even if you think they look great. So getting a 9 is a big hit and 10 is like a dream hit. I've graded many 80s and 90s cards and i use an 8 as what to hope for and anything better is really great.
Have so many of these cards. Thought they were in good condition but seeing grading criteria realizing they wouldn't get good grades. After 40 years of being in binders and played with as a kid
Congrats on Griffey 9 but I'd be so disappointed with the way PSA holdered it. It's VERY crooked and doesn't present well......
I totally agree, I'd be pissed!!
Nice set of hall of famers!!! I sent the same Mattingly years ago. It came back a 4!!! Oh well, I collect cards. I never plan to sell them. Just keep them and give them to my son when the time comes.😂😂
You did very well for your first sub! The UD Griffey in a 9 is solid! I just subscribed, I post a lot of reveals myself.
Worth an actual 5 bucks now, and might actually fetch that on eBay. Your retirement is set!
Well, I know I'm not the only one that had a rough time in the 80's. Definitely order that loupe. Congrats on the Bonds!
Thanks! I've already got 1 box from loupe, and about to use the rest of my credits on something else 🤔
I've been around for a long time, and I seek out SGC for vintage cards (definitely the most consistent grades for vintage) and Beckett for modern cards (with subgrades)...I have no problem buying a PSA graded slab as well...
Look at that 'stache on Maddux! Love that you submitted all these. I just broke some old sets that I've had since a kid also and even though they are junk wax it's cool to see them so crisp. I've got my first PSA sub coming soon too - very curious to see how it goes. I've got about a 70% gem 10 rate with SGC so far and interested to see if I do better or worse with PSA.
PS can't believe they did your Griffey all crooked like that! Such an epic card it deserves to be displayed properly - I'd ask for a re-slab!
Congrats on get ar least one 10 🔥🔥 great video 👍 😎
I am a Bo Jackson collector, I normally get a grade lower than expected on 80s cards. I have gotten a few random low grades feels like POP control. On 90-91 Tiffany cards I have gotten a lot more 10s.
Does the PSA grading company tell you why the grade was given in the first place? Like centering, color, boarders, etc.?
Unfortunately they don't tell you
Luckily you received some 9’s and a 10. PSA grading 1990 cards isn’t that much better either.
Awesome my friend 🎉
I have some very very nice pack pulled 80s cards that came back as 7s or 8s with one 9. They are near mint at least, but i feel worth less ungraded. They have 9 maybe 10 eye appeal. It was the last time i used psa. Ive been submitting since the 90s. I agree, it feels they are stingy with their 10s if it isnt a newer card.
The first card was moving around in the holder that's crazy..
geez, I've been contemplating getting very similar rookies from the mid 80s to early 90s for a few years now and I'm not sure the investment into the slabs would be worth it. Half of those cards you got graded are the same ones I have put aside in card savers waiting to get graded but I'm still on the fence.
Feels like you have an enemy at PSA.. those cards looked great!
I have a Bob Welch '79 card, i dont know if i should plan on grading it or keeping it RAW
Nice gloves
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Do they not do a write up for each card as to why it got its rating?
They just started doing that for high priced slabs. Not yet on regular orders. I wished, as I dont know how some got so low.
I love fleer and donruss cards...great cards bro
Me too! They bring back such memories 🤗
Cool cards
For a moment the title read like you sent in to PSA back in the 80s and just now received your order back.
Lol it feels like it sometimes
I'd be willing to make up random numbers for grades at a 20% discount to what was paid :)
1st Griffey slab looks terrible... come on PSA!
How many cards do the grader damage? What is the recourse? Like what if you submit a perfect Rookie Rickey that should be a 9or 10 and comes back 7 w/a finger corner YOU KNOW wasn’t there, wtf do u do about it? I hear that going with a bulk submitter company gets better grading, that true in general? Seems like they literally closed the door on pre-80’s 10s no matter how great they may be.
It feels a lot like “holding” in the NFL, where you can ALWAYS find something to justify calling holding on someone. The same as you could literally take ANY 10 as no find some tiny reason to make it a 9. EVERY ONE OF THEM. Anytime you mix money and judging, there will be done element of dishonesty being attempted. Like, whoever just invested in a rookie Rickey 10, they don’t want PSA to grade any more 10s. THE graders being mindful of the impact their 10 grades might have on the value of low-pop-10 cards automatically creates a conflict of interest in the mind of the grader. Like if they know there is no 10 grade for a 1962 card, and they get one, they will be looking for reasons it can’t be a 10. This is why AI, in this respect, would be superior to human beings. As far as the technical aspects like percentage of original surface ink remaining on a card. And relativity when comparing cards, using a curve grading for each individual card. I have a 7” screen microscope, which is pretty awesome for checking corners and edges, even sideways in the edges, which my microscope allows for room to turn cards on edge. Even perfect looking corners often have micro creasing, which I believe is from putting the cards in sleeves and pockets and removing them from sleeves and pockets. Basically any time you touch a card, assume you have micro-damaged it in some fashion. If a card is moving in the open air it is dying and vulnerable.
Looking at cards through a low magnification let’s you really see what a legit sharp corner looks like and a faux one. Some are truly pristine white filling all the way to the edges with no edge cracking, which is hard to find 4 of those corners in like a 78 topps Baseball card. Under magnification they all look bad, so you look at it through a curve. Like anything, you adjust interpretation of what is good and not good. Old cards are usually littered with tiny ink splatter marks all over, which the naked eye doesn’t pick up. Until you see it magnified, and then you can kind see it w the naked eye. It tells you where to look closer. The problem with it is you start thinking nothing can be a ten.
I would LOVE to be able to get 8, 9 &10 grades from the same card 15 years apart and examine them all to see how they stack up to each other. Meaning is a 10 from ‘03 like a 10 from ‘23? Or is it like a 9 from ‘23? Or vice versa? Someone needs to audit the graders so we know if we’re talking apples to apples. Do they put a “date graded” anywhere on the slabs?
Great vid! PSA is lacking bigtime, your first card shown (Griffey Jr.) is off center in its slab, really off center. I've been having a hard time with PSA's quality as of late. Specialty cards like Mother's Cookies, Hostess bakery and Total Cereal cards produce in limited volumes but have crappy card stock.
Best way to learn is to just do it.
PSA is so random. Your 10 in oc top to bottom and some of your other stuff probably deserved higher. I’ve sent perfect stuff in and got 9 and seen 10s for sell with edge issues. I’d crack the 9 and resubmit.
Nice but most of your cards won’t bring you a profit from the 80 and 90s to many out there . But still fun to collect.
PSA sucks so bad, lol. If you can’t visually see the error, it should be a 10. They ruined sports card collecting.
Haven't sent any in yet. My Tom Brady rookie better be a 10!!
My fingers are crossed for you!
Another great job on population control psa!!!!!
how is that griffey a 9??? damn man i thought they got more strict. . .
Wish I knew how to do this I have some old 50 cards to get graded
You can do it online through psa but if you have a card store near you then a lot of times they will send them in through a bulk order
You sure must like Steroids since you sent in so many roider players.
Seeing the populations it doesn't look like you did too bad. The 9s didn't have much graded higher
The crooked cards in slabs aren't acceptable and should be redone for free.
Damn straight. Send it back to their poor QA Dept.
Note to self, send cards to upper deck. PSA sucks in my personal opinion.
Always hard to watch these PSA videos, watching a guy see his prized possessions valued lower than he expected. He got a 10 on the worst player in the set.
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Can’t all be 10’s there bud ! You want 10’s buy new stuff !! Just sayin!!!good cards though
Fake Gretzkys got higher grades
pissing money down a hole grading 80's cards
Dude psa is garbage