The Weirdest GTS Ever Releases- George T. Stagg 2023 Review
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2023
- George T. Stagg from the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection is one of the most sought after bottles every year. Some years are better than others. There is something very different about the 2023 release, and we tell you all about it in this review!
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Last year on Christmas my good friend showed up to my house with 2022 GTS and WLW. We cracked them both and he gifted me the remainder of the GTS. Easily one of the best gifts I’ve ever received!
Damn! That is a good friend!
The best!
I just need 5 friends like that, they can each bring a BTAC😎🥃
Thanks for the review and thoughtful gesture! Due to building friendships when I joined the bourbon community, I was given the opportunity to purchase a bottle of 2020 GTS at retail. First and only time that’s ever happened! Loved the 2019 and 2020 gts, and hope to try this new one. Thanks again! Cheers.
Relationships in the whiskey world are not only rewarding, but sometimes lead to the opportunity to drink some good whiskey. Cheers!
Good stuff! Awesome review. I scored a GTS today for 150 (Chicago area). Can’t wait to crack it open!
Can't be mad at that price! Congrats!
Great content as always! I know several others who feel similarly as y’all do about GTS. I have not been fortunate enough to try any BTACs yet, but still enjoy listening to the reviews you guys give!
Good luck on the hunt. They are worth a splurge pour at a restaurant.
What a fun history. I was lucky to find one somewhat on secondary this year (double SRP) but not full secondary. Wow! What a great deal on your first bottle. Thanks for sharing the tasting, hoping to pop open on Xmas. Glad to hear you’re a fan since it is one of your favorites and have tried several more.
Congrats on the find. Enjoy that Christmas pour!
Great video and thanks as always for doing more than most channels by actually SHARING!!! Giving us little people an chance at tasting some hard to find and unusual whiskey! Keep up the good work and MERRY CHRISTMAS AND CHEERS EVERYONE!!!
I hope the channel will gain a reputation of being generous and grow. Merry Christmas!
This is what I love about bourbon, that you can get such a variety from the same recipe. Another great show. Thanks Gentlemen.
Our pleasure!
I’m in the state lottery and they are featuring the BTAC and pappy. I’m a big rye guy so I’m torn between if I win which is about as possible as me getting struck by lightning but if I do between the GTS or the Handy. Great review. Hope you have a Merry Christmas and a great New Year. Enjoy.
I have not released the review yet, but I have the 2023 THH too. It is a good year. It always has a pine needle component. In bad years it pine starts to taste like pine-sol smells. This year it doesn't have that. I did try the GTS and THH side by side, and I still preferred the GTS even though this year is weird. For a rye lover I think they would be happier with the THH. Hope that helps.
This is very interesting. I have tried a sample of Stagg Jr B18 vs the Benchmark FP before. You can see where the Benchmark is headed. Compared vs the GTS would be a fantastic comparison! Cheers and Happy Holidays.
Good luck in the randomizer. Happy holidays!
I have searched for the barrel proof Benchmark and just haven’t found it. In Alabama, at our ABC stores. Would love to try it. GTS would be insane. Love the channel!
Thank you for the support!
Another great video! Happy Holidays all!
Thank you! Happy Holidays to you too!
I just had the opportunity to have my only pour of GTS at the Sazerac House in New Orleans. It happened to be the 2019 GTS and was great. I hope one day I get the chance to own a bottle.
Good luck on the hunt!
I am yet to have seen any of the BTAC but I was lucky enough to finally be able to sample a regular Stagg at my local cigar lounge. Hopefully one day I will be able to try the George T Stagg 🤞🏼.
Good luck on the hunt!
Very cool, I’m glad you guys got a bottle and were able to do a comparison. Sounds like an interesting year!
Interesting would be a good way to describe it. We have a few more epic reviews coming, along with giveaways!
Amazing gaw. Never seen a any BTAC bottle before, so i shoot for Stagg Jr. Finally, I got one from my local go-to store. I have mever asked for any bottle. Its a business and i know i spend little money so it came out of nowhere. I just go to hang out and try to get a bottle 1 out of every 4 visits. Just a great husband and wife team.
Sounds like a good relationship. You should foster that. Offer samples etc.
The 2022 Thomas H. Handy, I think, was my first BTAC pour. I also tried the George T. Stagg and William Larue Weller from the same year and whether due to preference or tasting environment, the Handy was still my favorite experience of the three. (The WLW wasn't served in a Glen, unfortunately.) Still crossing my fingers for a lottery. Haha.
I have this year's THH too, but have not released the review yet. It is a good year.
Thanks for another great video! Love everything you all do!
Thanks for watching!
Just scored my first Jr (23b) and looking, as we all are, for a GTS! Great Channel guys.
I have loved every Stagg Jr I have had. It is a solid pour.
Fantastic video as always. Unfortunately, very difficult to get the btac releases around here due to all the flippers that chase the trucks on their delivery dates and the bottles don’t even hit the shelves before they are sold.
Luckily the stores around here have stopped rewarding that behavior, and have developed systems to make sure the bottles go to their best customers.
That’s awesome. One wine and spirits manager here at a local grocery store opens the btac bottle when the customer purchases it. 😂
@@brettmccormick163 That violates multiple laws in TX, but I get it. I personally think it is a great idea.
My first time trying GTS was the 2022 and the bar had it for $18.00 a pour. It's the best bourbon I've ever had.
I would have to agree with you!
Thankyew Randy! This is an awesome giveaway per always! I just finished my benchmark full proof,and would love another bottle for free! Plus GTS!! WOO-HOO! Cheers 🥃
Good luck!
This was a very cool video. Glad you snagged a GTS this year. Still looking to get my first BTAC. I have tried the 2019 GTS and it was pretty darn good. Cheers! 🥃
We have a few more epic reviews coming!
Love the video! What number rating would you give the 2019?
I think I liked it a little more, so 96
Great videos. Hope to get my hands on one of these one day.
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching!
I was able to pick up a Makers Cellar Aged yesterday, can’t wait to open it. I would love to try a GTS someday. Thanks for the great content!
Thank you for watching! Good luck on the GTS hunt!
Love that you are sharing some great bottles with everyone!
Sharing is what whiskey is all about IMO.
Excellent video. The GTS is one I would definitely love to try. Thanks for all you do. Im going to enter the drawing because I’ve never tried the GTS, but if I win please pass the Benchmark full proof to the next person. I already have a bottle of that one.
You will have to remind me if you win, but I appreciate the gesture.
Wow this is a great giveaway sir. I'd love a chance at possibly tasting a GTS and that benchmark. Sadly I've only seen the regular benchmark 8 around me
Luckily we get all the benchmark regularly in my market. Good luck in the randomizer.
Great video! I have a 2022 and a 2023 but I have not cracked open the 2023 yet.
Thanks! Let us know what you think when you try it.
Was lucky enough to score my first bottle of GTS last week. It's my Favorite bourbon to date. I also agree it has a very different note that I've never had in a whiskey before. Great content as usual. Thanks!
Was able purchase the bottle at msrp!!
I have tasted that musty note before, but never in GTS.
Done!!! Definitely excited to try this one! Good video!
Hope you enjoy it!
Love the channel and prodeful goat! Can’t wait to see what you bring in 2024!
Thank you. We are releasing an 8 year and rum finished rye in TPG on 1/20/24 at the distillery.
Really appreciate you guys doing this for your viewers. Keep up the great content.
Will do! Thank you for watching!
I’ve had the pleasure of trying 3 out of the last 5 years GTS. I could have bought the 2019 for $400 and I passed. Kinda regret it now. But usually the local cigar lounge will put out GTS around the Christmas season if they get it and me and a few friends get together try it. Definitely an experience to share with good company.
That sounds like about the best use for a bottle of GTS I can think of.
Nice review guys. I, too, have a special relationship with GTS as 2007 was my first bottle as well. Remains my favorite bourbon ever.
It is pretty epic. Even though I tried it when it had been low fill and open for 12 years or so, it was still great!
@BourbonRealTalk Same for me! I nursed that bottle along for many many years, did not want it to disappear.
Love GTS! I got a bottle of last year’s batch which was amazing. Would love to try the 2023 version!
Good luck on the hunt!
Love the channel and get a kick out of y’all dancing…yes, I’m from Beaumont Texas and said y’all…
We do get down from time to time🤣
Got two regular Stagg's last week. Great episode!
Sold find. I love Stagg too!
Great video! Never had the GTS before so I'll just imagine how good it is! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
I found a 2023 GTS for $399 today and it was a no brainer.
Congrats!
Bechmark FullProof is just nasty imo. Deserves that spot on the bottom shelf with the other $20 bottles. .
I just picked up a bottle of GTS 2023 on Monday for retail. First BTAC. I’m over the moon. I have a great relationship with my local small store.
Congratulations! Have you tried it yet?
@@BourbonRealTalknot yet. I might have a special occasion soon to open it. If that doesn’t happen then I’ll just open it in a month or so
I was fortunate enough to buy a bottle of GTS 2022 for $159.00. Like everyone else it is one of my favorite bottles. I like the idea of comparing the Full Poof with the GTS.
Lol i like the everyone else comment, i wasnt fond of the 2022 gts. It was a very love or hate gts release.
I am not suggesting the Benchmark so alike you would not immediately know the difference. They are very different, but it is a great way to learn about age and barrel selection.
@@BourbonRealTalk I'm with you. I didn't think you were suggesting that.
I would pay up to $300 but the cheapest I have seen them for in Md in the last several years is $993 and higher. 😎🥃 cheers gentleman
Good luck in the hunt! Cheers!
I am a fan of the benchmark FP. Not available in my area, but try to grab all I can find when visiting in TX. Cheers and thanks for the video!
Our pleasure! If you ever make it to north Texas hit me up and you can come have a pour in the studio.
Appreciate the content guys!
Our pleasure!
You guys rock! Appreciate the insight and history, thank you! Cheers 🥃
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for offering these giveaways. I just got the opportunity to purchase a 2022 GTS so looking forward to trying it. Cheers
I like it more than the 2023. You have a good bottle there!
Great show. Going to have to get some Benchmark Full Proof!
You won't be disappointed for the price!
Nice of you to do the giveaway. Merry Christmas
Thank you and Merry Christmas!
I was able to try the 2022 GTS and WLW just last week. Going into it, there wasn’t any question for me which one I was supposed to love - the WLW - but it wasn’t even close. I’m in love. 😍 I know it’s not likely that I’ll see a bottle of GTS that I can afford but a guy can dream, right? 😂
I know plenty of people who have manifested GTS. You will be no different. Just put it out there and it will happen eventually.
In the most incredible way I got 2022 GTS beginning of this year and last week I got 2023 GTS both below MSRP. I dont make a lot of money and I live a simple life with my wife. I am saying this because its a big deal the we were able to get GTS for a price we could actually afford. I highly respect yall’s opinions on bourbon. With that being said, I am so excited to hear how you feel about GTS. Special occasion is coming up next year and we cant wait to open 2022 release.
I am happy for you. I open mine as soon as I get them because I don't "drink" them, I "taste" them. They last at least a couple of years and I am not going to sell it, so it doesn't matter if it is open.
A friend was lucky enough to get this today. Really hoping I get to sample it.
If you have a friend that got a bottle and they don't share, you need teach them about how bourbon is made to bring people together 🤣
I live right in the heart of bourbon (Kentucky) but BTAC is so incredibly hard to find. Mostly all lottery systems. Maybe one day I can say I’ve tried GTS! Love the content.
Thank you for watching. Good luck in your lotto!
Have not found a GTS in my local liquors that isn't a mortgage payment. One day, I'll find it and hope it's as good as everyone says it is
Good luck on your hunt!
My local mom / pop liquor store got one in a couple years ago. He told me he had to sell it for close to 1000. He had to sell it for that because of what his distributor made him pay. He did not make much profit, but it sold quick.
Not sure I would do 1000.
I hate hearing stories like that. At the end of the day that store owner owed it to his customers to say no so he didn't have to take advantage of his patrons just to make no money.
@BourbonRealTalk
He's normally a decent guy, fair on prices, just a bit over if he knows you. But he said the Stagg, not the Stagg Jr cost him more from his distributor....
I thought it could be possible.....
@@keg9850 That is likely untrue. Wholesalers have a contract with the producer and can not change prices willy nilly. It may be possible he had to buy a bunch of other inventory he didn't have customers for, that he had to sell at cost, to get access to the bottle. That could lead to a situation where he needed to sell it for $1000 to make the money he should have on the other inventory, but again, he should have just said no.
I enjoy your content fellas. Nice review, it sounds like a heck of a bottle this year, shared in good company. What else can a guy ask for. Cheers.
We got 6 allocated bottles, and we tried them all. More reviews are coming.
Regarding that "weird/dusty funk" you tasted, a social media user who spoke with Drew Mayville at a recent Buffalo Trace dinner event, said that they asked Drew what happened to the 2021 barrels that were not released for GTS that year. Drew apparently said they kept aging them and that those unused barrels eventually made it into the 2023 GTS. If true, this means that this year's GTS has (at least) 17 year old barrels in the blend. That age, plus the fact that those barrels were originally deemed too off profile (or whatever) for release that year, could possibly explain the uniqueness/weirdness of this year's release.
Note: I originally tried linking to the post on the site where this was being discussed. But my comment kept getting deleted, likely because I gave the link and/or referenced the other social media site by name. If you want to find it, just do a search on that site (the one with a large bourbon subgroup) for a review of Mister Sam Tribute Whiskey (Batch 3, 2023).
This is an interesting theory. If true it would mean the information Buffalo Trace released about the age of 2023 is incorrect. The website says the barrels were all distilled in the spring of 2008. GTS has been just over 15 years old for a while. It would be weird if they were planning a 13 year release in 2021, pulled the plug in preference for 2 more years of age, and didn't end up with a bunch of 15 year barrels and 17 year barrels in 2023.
@@BourbonRealTalk It's totally reasonable to question this claim. However, I have no reason to doubt the original poster of the claim (it/they seemed genuine enough), and I went back and read this year's GTS release letter. It says that it is comprised of barrels aged for "more than" 15 years and 3 months. So it's totally within reason (and not uncommon in bourbon) that the age refers solely to the youngest barrels in the blend. And I mentioned it here as I thought it was interesting and might help explain the uniqueness you mentioned. Great video, as always!
EDIT: Given your connections in the industry, perhaps you might be able to get the definitive truth here, one way or the other. It would be great to discuss in a follow up video, if you find anything. You might even consider an episode or series where you attempt to prove or disprove this (and other) bourbon ”conspiracy theories". Bourbon Mystery Theater! We all love a good bourbon mystery. Cheers! 😊
@@michaelrice4024 Since they said specifically that the barrels were distilled in the spring of 2008, I thought that would preclude them using barrels from 2006, but you are correct that this would be legal and a relatively normal practice.
@@BourbonRealTalk See my edit at the bottom of my last comment above. I think your channel would be perfect for discussing this (and other) such "bourbon mysteries", as you always seem to follow the evidence and make very well-thought-out arguments. Your channel is by far the most objective and "fact based” of those I follow.
Great video. Have not had the pleasure of sampling GTS
Good luck on the hunt!
The ultimate unicorn! One day I WILL find one! Love the channel and the message.
If you keep looking you will find one eventually.
Excellent video and opportunity!
Glad you liked it!
GTS is currently my unicorn. Never even see it on bar shelves around here.
Good luck on your hunt!
Never have tried it. Love Eagle Rare and Weller collection. Happy New Years!
Hope you get a chance to try it someday! Happy New Year to you!
Great information you just gave about the benchmark being the same as the George T stag
Glad you enjoyed it. Age and "barrel selection" make them different, but in all other ways they are the same.
I am not sure about tasting “Grandmas basement”, but it sounds interesting. Thanks for doing a giveaway!
I don't know if you have had many "dusty" pours from the 70's and 80's, but they all develop with musty/dusty flavor. It is like that.
Didn’t win a GTS in the raffle this year just like everyone else but I’m still super bummed because I’ve never had the opportunity to try any BTAC and I would very much like to😔
They can be pricey, but it is worth a splurge pour at a restaurant.
I have been waffling on buying your aroma kit. I struggle with picking up the aromas and tastes. I would hate to buy a kit and then find out that my nose and tongue are defective. Is this a common concern and do most people gain the ability to profile bourbon after using these kits? I am looking forward to finding out once I get the GTS and Benchmark FP.
I have had other people express this concern. My impression is that everyone has the ability to develop their palate if they work at it, but that does not mean anyone can work hard enough to become Nancy "The Nose" Fraley. Some of it is genetic. If you find it enjoyable to be able to break down whiskey, the kit in practice would yield a positive outcome for you if you work at it.
Great content! Have never been lucky enough to try the GTS.
Maybe this is your year.
I can't get any of the Benchmark stuff here in SD! Waiting for it to show up
Hopefully the expand soon. It is readily available in TX, inexpensive, and a solid pour.
Kismet! I was finishing up an ounce of 23 GTS perusing UA-cam when the algorithm blessed me with real talk.
When I could find and finally afford a GTS was 2018. The first pour of 23 tasted like a proofed up eagle rare lots of grape and oak. I was kinda disappointed. A week later and there’s my beloved. Maybe it was a bad day for me my first taste, maybe it needed to open up, but sweet baby Jesus I love GTS.
I have done side by sides twice, and both times I got the funk on 23. I am going to do a side by side with 22 and 23 today and see how it goes.
GTS is one of my favorites! Wish I could find one at MSRP for the birth of my first grandchild! 🥃
Good luck on the hunt!
I can't find Benchmark here, and it gets very good reviews. I would love to have that bottle. The sample of GTS would be fun too. 🙂
Good luck in the randomizer!
Love the video, George t. Stagg vs. benchmark full proof...i just got a benchmark fill proof in Iowa, and i dont think it is close to Buffalo trace and eagle rare 10. I had stagg jr. Once and did not really think it was much above eagle rare. Would love how to see you think George t. Stagg stands out against stagg jr. Vs eagle rare 10...and benchmark full proof of i get is the same mash bill...but it hard to think the cuts get clese to stagg even..guve me a chance to tryt
We can do GTS, Benchmark FP, Stagg, and EHTBP since they are all high proof, but If you through a ER in the mix it will stick out like a sore thumb.
Fun video and interesting info on the George T Stagg. I didn't realize that each year they were that different.
The difference isn't normally as noticeable as this year's.
I hope one of these days I am able to partake in experiencing GTS some day. Thank you for the review.
Good luck in the hunt! Thanks for watching.
I can't imagine getting a GTS for SRP, especially in VA.
I have been lucky several times, but I will say that I have learned that more TX stores still sell for SRP than other areas of the country.
Love the channel ! Love GTS !! Need I say more?
That sums it up nicely! Thank you for the support!
I just picked one up yesterday 136.99 my first ever BTAC bottle I can’t wait to crack it open!
Let me know if you get the funk too!
GTS is by far my all time fav - and actually it's the 2019 offering. I have had others, but that 19 sings to me... As always, please keep up the good work and sharing your message of support.
Some people enjoyed the lower proof. They can taste more of the flavor without the ethanol getting in the way.
How would you compare GTS 2020 vs. GTS 2022 and GTS 2023? If you could get any of the three, which would you choose? Asking as my girlfriend said she would find me one for my birthday :) Thank you!
Got to try GTS, WLW, and THH last may all great !
That is an epic flight!
Waiting for Santa and watching your channel. In on the drawing.
Good luck!
Still waiting to find a pour at a resonable price. Hopefully one of these days. Great show as always!
I found a place selling GTS for $16. I ate there every day for lunch until it was gone. I had the same bottle at home, but it was cheaper to drink it at the bar.
Love the honest review. By the way, I’m near Dallas as well and can pick up. Ya know, just trying to save you the shipping cost! Haha 😂
Just come to my house on Saturday 1/6/24 12-4. You can have a taste for free. I have an event. Food will be free. You get a free tasting glass and lint free rag.
I might just do that. Send the details
@@christopherharding8061 facebook.com/groups/someonesaywhiskey
Cool thanks for the opportunity!
Good luck!
Would love to get my hands on a GTS one day! Cheers!🥃
Good luck!
Great video as always!
Thank you!
I agree. Too many people b**** about the 2019 GTS proof. It's still a great whiskey. I havent tried the 2023 but I Love the fact that it has a funk. Cheers! 🥃
Glad you love the funk! Cheers!
The 2022 was AMAZING! Did you guys try it? No one mentioned it... We put it next to the 20, smoked it..... I bought 3 last year. 159, 500, 850. Worth EVERY PENNY
I have had 2022. I never tried it side by side with the 2020.
@@BourbonRealTalk
Give her a rip. You might just be surprised. I thought the 22 was substantially better.
If you do a side by side I'd be super interested in your perspective.
Cheers 🍻
@@BourbonForageFishing OK, I did it. 2022 is a classic GTS profile. The 2023 just tastes like funk and potting soil.
@@BourbonRealTalk
🤣🤣🤣👍
That's interesting 🤔
Thank you for sharing. I'll give you my review once I get my 2023
Take care and happy holidays to you and your family 👪
Great video again guys! I've never owned a George T Stagg, but have had at a bar and it is phenomenal. Thanks for the quality content!
Our pleasure!
I own a liqour store and this is the first year ive had so much blantons, eh taylor and other allocations...but only 1 bottle of this.
I am not sure what equation Saz's new wholesaler is using, but it seems odd that you would have a larger allocation of some Saz products but not all. Interesting!
Still have not had a pour of GTS. Fingers crossed 🤞🏾
Good luck in the randomizer!
I’ve got me some blade and bow right now while watching your video. Have a great day guys!
Enjoy!
Love GTS and its various year differences. Can’t wait to try the 23 as well. Cheers. 🥃
This one is so different. It is really shocking to me.
Outstanding as always!
thank you!
Thank you all. What you do is inspiring!
Thank you for the encouragement!
Absolutely fantastic! Cool vid, and the feedback on this nostalgic bottle is appreciated.
Our pleasure!
Great giveaway. Love you guys!
Thanks for watching! Love you too
Next time I see GTS on a menu, I have to try it.
It is worth a splurge pour at least once.
Love the channel.
Thank you for watching!