Thanks, it's super common when making bowls, and takes a little work to get over it (excuse the pun) but a little practice will help you get there! Good luck.
I love the quality of your videos. Having the two perspectives side by side looks stunning! Your gentle voice, clear explanations and added slides make it extra interesting to watch. Just wonderful work. The best of luck for you growing your channel!
Great! its not too hard to eliminate this problem with some deliberate practice... and bowls become much more fun! Good luck and please feel free to ask any specific questions if the technique is not clear!
Phrases have more than one meaning and use. Why build a bad foundation and try to fix it afterwards when you can get it right the first time? Great explanations in the video!
Thanks for watching! My wheel is a brent C wheel. It's quite old. I purchased it second hand in the 90's and not a hiccup since! At the time I thought it was on the expensive size .... but now I realize what a bargain it was. I have also never seen one with a fixed splash pan like this. Its huge and very functional. I have always wondered if perhaps someone added it after purchase? but not sure.
These are all locally available (to Australia) brush on glazes aside from the base. They are Base Glaze - Clear gloss Mid Fire tinted with a turquoise stain. I buy in powdered form and add stains as required. Fired up - Banksia Mid fire Fired up - Outback Mid fire Northcote pottery supplies - Blue Chun Mid Fire Northcote pottery supplies - Green Chun Mid Fire I overdid the layering - OK in a bowl shape like this but on something more upright I might have come unstuck!
That's a really good observation. So I am actually pushing down but my hand is at an angle. It feels like I'm pushing into the center of the clay. It's quite effective as the clay stays in a cone and the whole surface of the clay - from the bottom to the top gets re distributed. I'll try and draw a diagram that explains it better!
hmmm that's an curly question. I used to make large porcelain fruit bowls and they would sell for a few hundred dollars, but that's some time ago.. There are so many variables - materials, location, how you finish your bowl and how you fire.
Doesn't a beginners hump refer to the initial difficulty of learning any skill? I'm not sure it's a literal hump in your bowls. Round wooden ribs for shaping are ideal to form an uninterrupted curve on a wide shallow bowl. Something I've discovered is you can take a second pass at shaping later on, after the pot has dried a bit, just before you go to wire it off. Put it back on the wheel. By now, the walls are more stiff and less prone to collapsing under pressure. If there are any irregularities in the curve (like a hump), you can compress and erase them with a rib tool.
You make three excellent points. Firstly, My teacher (many years ago....) used to refer to this hump as a "devil's hump". A few weeks ago I noticed a student struggling with this hump over a series of bowls and decided to make a video. So I did a search to see if I remembered correctly and found that it is commonly referred to as a beginners hump. see ceramicartsnetwork.org/daily/article/How-to-Throw-a-Wide-Shallow-Bowl Secondly - yes a rib, wooder or otherwise will help, however if push into the curve of your bowl at this stage without support, you risk collapsing your bowl. You must support the bowl on the outside, either with hands, sponge or ever a second rib. Also leaving extra clay at the outer foot of the bowl to support the bowl when making will help. Thirdly, yes you could rework the interior when a little firmer, however I try to teach my students to get the interior curve of the bowl right in the throwing. It's the thing that makes the bowl! Finally, yes of course, a beginner hump has a much broader meaning.... but I also like the idea that potters have their own little literal beginner's hump to get over!
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What a great tutorial. All the mistakes you were talking about I made before. Now I know better. Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Thanks, it's super common when making bowls, and takes a little work to get over it (excuse the pun) but a little practice will help you get there! Good luck.
Great tutorial, so helpful as I do struggle with beginners hump. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I love the quality of your videos. Having the two perspectives side by side looks stunning! Your gentle voice, clear explanations and added slides make it extra interesting to watch. Just wonderful work. The best of luck for you growing your channel!
Wow, thank you!
This is a very peacefull video. And pedagogical as well. Thank you :)
Our pleasure!
I've always had so much trouble with this. It's been so frustrating. Thanks for the tips!
Happy to help!
The glaze technique is so cool!
this was a totally synchronicity! Was just thinking that my skills have leveled up but that damn hump is still following me.
Great! its not too hard to eliminate this problem with some deliberate practice... and bowls become much more fun! Good luck and please feel free to ask any specific questions if the technique is not clear!
Thank you for the technique lesson. And the glazing pointers.
You are so welcome!
Well done tutorial! I learned a few things! Off to the wheel! Thank you!
Glad it is helpful. Enjoy! 😊
Eyyy clayworks yellow speckle is one of my favourite clay bodies
oh good spotting! yes it's a favorite too!!
Phrases have more than one meaning and use. Why build a bad foundation and try to fix it afterwards when you can get it right the first time? Great explanations in the video!
Thanks. Yes regarding the interior of a bowl... that's the theory, however sometimes you have to find ways to work around limitations in skills.
This is my first time watching you. I LOVE your wheel! I've never seen this one. A Bailey is the closest to this that I've seen. What is it?
Thanks for watching! My wheel is a brent C wheel. It's quite old. I purchased it second hand in the 90's and not a hiccup since! At the time I thought it was on the expensive size .... but now I realize what a bargain it was. I have also never seen one with a fixed splash pan like this. Its huge and very functional. I have always wondered if perhaps someone added it after purchase? but not sure.
Nice work!
When I can but a Aluminium Bat online ? For pottery Shimpo? Thx
Oh I didn't know aluminium bats were a thing....try googling there are a lot of bat systems. 😊
Please let us know which glazes were used for layering.thnx
These are all locally available (to Australia) brush on glazes aside from the base. They are
Base Glaze - Clear gloss Mid Fire tinted with a turquoise stain. I buy in powdered form and add stains as required.
Fired up - Banksia Mid fire
Fired up - Outback Mid fire
Northcote pottery supplies - Blue Chun Mid Fire
Northcote pottery supplies - Green Chun Mid Fire
I overdid the layering - OK in a bowl shape like this but on something more upright I might have come unstuck!
When coning, if you push forward instead of straight down, you don't risk folding it over like that.
That's a really good observation. So I am actually pushing down but my hand is at an angle. It feels like I'm pushing into the center of the clay.
It's quite effective as the clay stays in a cone and the whole surface of the clay - from the bottom to the top gets re distributed. I'll try and draw a diagram that explains it better!
How much would you charge for a fruit bowl?
hmmm that's an curly question. I used to make large porcelain fruit bowls and they would sell for a few hundred dollars, but that's some time ago.. There are so many variables - materials, location, how you finish your bowl and how you fire.
Couldn’t really get a good look at it, saw the oranges unfortunately 😢
oh you mean the final glazes? I can upload one to the community section.... i though they were pretty good looking oranges though!
Doesn't a beginners hump refer to the initial difficulty of learning any skill? I'm not sure it's a literal hump in your bowls. Round wooden ribs for shaping are ideal to form an uninterrupted curve on a wide shallow bowl. Something I've discovered is you can take a second pass at shaping later on, after the pot has dried a bit, just before you go to wire it off. Put it back on the wheel. By now, the walls are more stiff and less prone to collapsing under pressure. If there are any irregularities in the curve (like a hump), you can compress and erase them with a rib tool.
You make three excellent points.
Firstly, My teacher (many years ago....) used to refer to this hump as a "devil's hump". A few weeks ago I noticed a student struggling with this hump over a series of bowls and decided to make a video. So I did a search to see if I remembered correctly and found that it is commonly referred to as a beginners hump. see ceramicartsnetwork.org/daily/article/How-to-Throw-a-Wide-Shallow-Bowl
Secondly - yes a rib, wooder or otherwise will help, however if push into the curve of your bowl at this stage without support, you risk collapsing your bowl. You must support the bowl on the outside, either with hands, sponge or ever a second rib. Also leaving extra clay at the outer foot of the bowl to support the bowl when making will help.
Thirdly, yes you could rework the interior when a little firmer, however I try to teach my students to get the interior curve of the bowl right in the throwing. It's the thing that makes the bowl!
Finally, yes of course, a beginner hump has a much broader meaning.... but I also like the idea that potters have their own little literal beginner's hump to get over!
Can you film the top view when you trim? That would be awesome! Thanks so much! 😊
Yes, good point, sometimes the top camera don't turn on (usually operator error 😳)