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Wine Spectator's Top 100 Wines: 10 OVERLOOKED WINES
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- In this video, John Jackson, DipWSET a/k/a Attorney Somm identifies 10 excellent wines that were overlooked by Wine Spectator and which were not included in the Wine Spectator Top 100 Wines of 2023. These excellent wines included wines that wine collectors will want to stock up on before prices go up. Attorney Somm's wine recommendations will be useful for experienced wine collectors and wine buyers as well as beginners.
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What a fabulous idea to give us your personal point of view re mistakes in WS Top 100 list. You didn’t only analyze each of the 100 wines. You research even deeper to provide us references of wines that are not in that list; and make a detailed comparison to confirm why those wine should have been mentioned. Some of the wines you mention are new to me. I’m very happy to look for them. Art Senes 2018 CS Magret River, from tremendous producer has to be a must. So, I think the next step is that your followers are going to be gladly waiting for Attorney Somm list. Year after year… If possible for you to do it! Thank you so much for another impressive video, John.
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Thanks very much, Gabriela! Appreciate the thoughtful comment! Yes, this could really be just a stand-alone video about 10 excellent wines - the WS list just happened to serve as the catalyst for me to put them together. Leeuwin does a fantastic job and that 2018 is an outstanding vintage! Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend! Cheers!
Bravo to your integrity! I am reminded of NYT food critic, Pete Wells, downgrading “Daniel” and, a few years later, Peter Luger.
Beyond any subjectivity you are making the most compelling arguments.
Thank you! Calling them like I see them! Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
Your channel is constantly improving in content, and it is a joy to follow and learn from your growing knowledge. The fact that you have branched out from famous producers to lesser known ones, is just one aspect. Also your descriptions strike me as increasingly clear.
Fantastic!
@@larsio72 Thank you! Truly appreciate the support and kind feedback. I definitely keep trying to get better every week and also have been getting more opportunities to attend tastings for the trade.
I've deleted my first comment which was far too grumpy in tone. I was directing my ire at the original Wine Spectator list and not your alternative which had some great alternatives. Indeed, your alternative demonstrates the wonderful world of wine and how subjective a lot of our pleasure is. Add to that the cellar defender equation. I'm always on the lookout for them and I've discovered some really terrific wines that will never make the Spectator list.
Thank you! Very glad you enjoyed the alternatives! Hope that you enjoy these as much as I do!
I appreciate your bluntness calling out WS
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. 👍🍷
I was also expecting a lot more Bordeaux's from the great 2020 vintage. Would love it if you could make a video about what to get from that vintage.
Thank you! Appreciate the suggestion! I’ll definitely give that some thought. In the meantime, I definitely mention 2020 as a vintage to seek out for many of the producers I discuss in my Bordeaux videos. I have a Bordeaux video playlist now to make them easier to locate. Cheers!👍🍷
@@AttorneySomm Seen almost all of them. Great videos!
@@alexanderflesche4797 Thanks very much!
Great stuff. Chenin doesn’t get the love it deserves. IMHO. Thank you.
Completely agree with you! I sometimes need to remind myself to drink it more often! Thank you!
Excellent, excellent commentary! Mr. Jackson “floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee!” Your lead fists landed hard. And, great recommendations!
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers!
Just want to thank you for sharing your knowledge🙏👋
My pleasure! Thanks very much! 👍🍷
11:02 Great to see the garganega varietal getting some love. And yes, perfect with seafood.
Thank you! Glad you agree.
Will you be doing an Attorney Somm top 50 wines of 2023? Would love that. Great video as always.
Thanks! I usually do a top 25 each year. It usually spans two videos on UA-cam. It’s not on new releases, but on the very best wines I’ve tasted during the calendar year.
I mainly do agree: Huet: 👍👍👍👍👍Volpaia: 👍👍👍👍👍Zinfandel:: 👍👍👍👍👍 Soave: 👍👍👍👍👍 Feytit-Clinet: 👍👍👍👍👍
But - imho - there is still one missing: Chateau Beauregard, Pomerol: I tasted it and I bought 12 bottles - I will buy further vintages. A friend of mine drank recently a 2012 and liked it - Beauregard is also well rated by other critics. P.S.: if you don't like it - let me know: there will be more left for myself!;-)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Cheers!🍷
Thanks! Haven’t tried it recently. I’ll have to change that! 👍🍷
@@AttorneySomm They are also producing since years a second wine called Benjamin de Beauregard to improve the quality of their first wine. Cheers!🍷
@@megatrendy1 I’ll have to try it. Thanks!
Perhaps WS should consider a second list of the top 25 wines under $25. I think they are trying to appeal to too broad an audience, but I do understand that a lot of their viewers/readers probably don’t spend more than $20 on a bottle of wine and so to try to engage with them they have tried to include bottles they can relate to. In the end, I take the list as an interesting read where I maybe find a few wines I’ve never heard of or considered before and add them to my list of wines to try in the upcoming year. But on the whole, I rely more on videos like yours for recommendations. I especially appreciate your Cellar Defenders videos.
Thank you! Yes, that is a good idea. I do understand the need to include those wines - I just think they overdid it this year. Also, very much appreciate the support and feedback. It definitely helps me when determining what future videos to publish. Cheers!
I think they have too many expensive wine over $200. While I understand their list is not a value list, as you 10 recommended wines show, you can have some excellent wines from $35 to less than $100 a bottle. I really like the Seghesio Zinfandel along with others from Sonoma/dry creek area. I need to start searching for your recommendations! I have quite a few from the past couple of years in the cellar and need to start to drink some of them. Great Video, keep up your research and tastings. Thanks Dennis
Thanks very much! Yes, Seghesio does a fantastic job! Very glad you enjoyed the video! Hope you can track down some of the picks and that you enjoy them as much as I do. Cheers!
It’s awesome that you took a few potshots at the WS 100 (2023). You know I’m not a fan of the list, and you expose a couple of obvious biases and omissions. I admire you for identifying wines to take off for each you add. I also purchased the 2018 Leeuwin Art Series, and the Duval Entity shiraz-really looking forward to tasting those! Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much! Those are excellent wines! Very glad you enjoy them as well! And glad you enjoyed the video! Appreciate the support and kind feedback. Cheers!
@@AttorneySomm you may already subscribe but Konstantin Baum just dropped his take on WS 100
@@baggrabb Thanks!
Wow!Thank you!Fantastic!🍷👌😋
Truly appreciate it! Thank you!
I just ordered three bottles of Chateau Feytit-Clinet based on your recommendation. I’m sure it will be outstanding. Two bottles that I already like from that region are Chateau Clinet and Chateau La Fleur-Petrus. The three bottles I just ordered are of the 2020 vintage, so I will wait for sometime to try one. Well, maybe not 😊
Glad to hear it! I definitely think you will enjoy it! It is a fantastic wine. Cheers!
Good stuff, John. Glad you didn't pull any punches.
I haven't drunk Gloria or Huet for donkey's years. I remember being given a present of the 1978 Gloria when I left my job on promotion in the early '80s - it was probably the best claret I had drunk to that point but I have not had it since for some reason. Must try to rectify that. Huet was the most expensive wine at a tasting I organised in the 1990s but lost out to a Coteaux du Layon at a fifth of the price in the popular vote (we tasted blind without knowing the prices).
I have been meaning to buy a bottle or two of the Leeuwin CS and Chardonnay for some time - must do that.
I am pleased you mentioned Volpaia as I have three bottles of the 2019 Gran Selezione in the merchant's cellars. Rioja is usually a good buy, imho. I will drink the second half of a 2017 I opened yesterday later this evening.
Thank you, Steven! Yes, after thinking it over, this year's list was really very underwhelming.
Appreciate your comments and experiences with these wines. Gloria has definitely been doing well lately! Hope you can try the Leeuwin soon! Very impressive wines. Cheers!
I love your recommendation for Chateau Gloria. I made the mistake of buying the ‘21 vintage because I wanted the high percentage of Petite Verdot. I’m waiting for the day when a Vino Nobile di Montepulciano makes it on the top 100 for any list; not going to hold my breath. I like wine enthusiast’s as they include a top 100 budget friendly wines, cellar and spirits. Great job also recommending Inama Soave Classico. It’s one of my favorite Italian white wines. Keep in mind that Wjbe Spectator is going for the American wine lover which is why you see a lot of Napa, New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc and a Brunello.
Thanks very much for your thoughtful response! Yes, this list does seem quite Americanized. Very glad you enjoyed some of the picks. I’ll have to take a look at the WE list, but that does sound like a good approach. Cheers!
To each is own. He reviews the Inama Soave Foscarino which I have not had, but is also somewhat more expensive. I had their Soave normale several years ago and was underwhelmed by it finding it flabby and lacking in acidity. I saw that wine again this Summer so I thought I would give a newer vintage another chance; I bought two one for me and one for a new neighbour. I was so disappointed in it which is what I suppose you reference that I went over to the neighbour and apologised. If you are interested in great Soave try any of the Pieropan wines. Their entry level which is about the same price as the Inama is in a different league. Their single vineyard ones are truly world class wines harkening back to a time when Italian whites were not bland and insipid. I tried the Inama years ago because of Wine Spectator which is a good reason for my staying away from their recommendations now including Gloria which I find rather generic and much better to be had for less money. As for VNM I believe the Dei normale was on it which is I believe an elegant wine. It was on my list of wines to send to my doctor, but it has sold out on Wine.Com. Well we at least agree somewhat on VNM. Have a nice holiday.
@@allanrinaldipaone9850 Thank you for your detailed and thoughtful comment. I mentioned the Inama specifically because that was the one that impressed me and had the type of QPR that makes it well suited for this sort of list. Not the normale which I have never recommended.
I agree re Pieropan and feature Pieropan wines prominently in my Italian white wine video from earlier this year.
Thank you! You have invested a lot of time into analyses of WS top100 and other wines they have scored over the year! Impresive! However, I disagree in one thing - I do think that it is commendable that WS included more affordable wines on the list. I always say - premium price should translate into premium quality, and while it is not always the case, I certainly think it is worth highlighting wines that on their price level over-perform. It is much harder to make a great wine at affordable price level. And people who do not feel comfortable spending more than 20Eur of 50Eur for a bottle of wine should also be able to look up these lists and inspire to try other labels! Cheers! And thank You for the video! Great! 🥂
Thanks very much! Appreciate the thoughtful comment. Also, congratulations on the success of your channel!
I definitely to see the value in having a number of affordable wines on the list. I just think they overdid it a bit this year. Cheers!
@@AttorneySommI recently had the 1978 Chateau Greysac which is a Bordeaux for the Medoc that sells for less than $30 with the current vintage. Although Wine Spectator did not review the 2017, they should have. It purchase way beyond it’s price. It’s a good cellar defender.
Great video as always John. This years WS top 100 list is absolutely garbage in all aspects, a complete train wreck. Regarding your recommendations I can only say that you made me discover the Feytit Clinet and because of you there are 24 bottles of the 2019 vintage waiting in my cellar. This Tuesday I will open one and serve it blind and it will go face to face to a Troplong Mondot 2015 and several other great wines. I am very curious how it will fare out. I still havent bought any 2020 Feytit, but I am tempted to buy a few. Have a great day!
Thanks very much! Definitely a very underwhelming list with lots of material omissions as well as wines that simply should not have been included based on the purported selection criteria. Curious to hear about the results of that tasting! Feliz Domingo! Cheers!
2019 Feytit--Slightly less acclaim than the 2020(95+ vs 96-), but less money on futures($58 vs $74). That's why I bought 6-2019; only 3-2020. 2020/22, same price & reviews.
The more flamboyant 2020 Clinet(I understand the W.S. does the current release) took a big jump in price over 2019(futures: $75 vs $100). But the reviews on the more structured longer-term 2019 were Much better.
You had me at “In this video, we’re gonna fix their list…”🔥🔥😂 Well, there’s only one wine expert I would completely trust with that pronouncement - that’s why I watched this video in its entirety and not just once but twice.😊 Naturally, I echo your disappointment about the fact that there are only four Bordeaux wines in the WS Top 100 list. I concur with you that Chateau Gloria can rival the quality of Classified Growths and that it should have been included in the list. I haven’t tried the 2020 but I can vouch for the enthralling beauty, power, and elegance of the 2018 which I tasted and reviewed three months ago. That’s one glaring mistake, indeed! I haven’t tasted the particular Vouvray that you mentioned but I’m a huge fan of Vouvray in general and I haven’t tried one that I didn’t like, so this recommendation gets a big yes from me, too. Now the Zinfandel sounds seriously amazing! Same here, it’s one of my favorite wines to pair with barbecue! While I’m not very familiar with a lot of Australian and Napa Valley wines, I most certainly trust your taste and recommendations so I have no qualms about agreeing with you, yet again, in this respect. Likewise, I’m quite unhappy about the top choice of WS but I’m thrilled that you provided some excellent recommendations. I will be seeking out the Volpaia Chianti Classico Riserva (just love CCR!), the John Duval Shiraz, Escarpment wines from New Zealand, La Montesa Rioja Crianza, and Foscarino Soave Classico. I’ve recently enjoyed a couple of Soave Classico wines. Love your description “bone dry with refreshing acidity” so I’m really excited to look for this Foscarino. Needless to say, as a huge Bordeaux fan, I will definitely seek out the 2020 Feytit-Clinet which is so highly rated/recommended by JS, RP, JD, D, and, of course, my trusted wine authority and connoisseur, JJ!😉 Thank you for this superbly engaging, enlightening, and helpful video. Incomparable content with so many valuable insights and info, as always! Love all your recommendations! Santé, John!
Thanks very much, Margaux! Very pleased you enjoyed it! Lots of outstanding wines in this video! Hope that you enjoy them as much as I do! Certainly appreciate the support and kind feedback! Hope you have a terrific week! Cheers!
@@AttorneySomm You’re welcome, John! Thank you for dissecting the WS Top 100 List especially their Top 10 wines. You didn’t just assess them intensively, you even provided your own recommendations - and I can’t wait to start hunting them down. Also looking forward to your Top 25 wines of 2023! Make it Top 50 this time, please!🙏🏻😁 I would love to see some wines from Bordeaux, Rhone Valley, Burgundy, Montalcino, and Barolo on your much-anticipated list.😉
@@margauxml Thank you! A top 50 would be quite ambitious! I’ll give that some thought!
@@AttorneySomm De rien! Thank you as well, John! I’m sure I speak for many when I say that your outstanding content is truly impressive and highly appreciated. Felicitations!
Slightly off topic but when will you release the Brunello tasting you mentioned a little while ago - or have I missed it?
The 2019 en primeur offer has just been released and, although I buy hardly any EP these days, I will make an exception for this wine and from this vintage. I can get a Val di Suga half case or a Ciacci three bottle case for about the same price. Will either of these feature in your video? Many thanks.
Thanks! Great timing. The event was yesterday. I hope to get to work and release the video this Sunday. Including the 18 Riservas, there were 70 wines and I tried 69 of them. One ran out before I got to it.
I can't believe Ch Lynch Bages 2020 wasn't there, what with the new winery
They actually did include Lynch-Bages as no. 3. I discuss that one in a video that I did dedicated to the top 10 wines from this list.
whoops...my apologies, i didnt see your first video John...@@AttorneySomm
@@philipquick7423 No worries! That is one they got right. Lynch-Bages is doing great things! 2019 and 2020 are both tremendous! Glad you enjoy L-B as well!
kick 'em the balls JJ
Called them like I saw them! Cheers.
Napa is so deep in WS’s pockets
It’s been a while since I subscribed. It would be interesting to see if there are ads from companies with wines that did well. Social media creators need to disclose those collaborations so publications like WS should as well.
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Thank you kindly! Cheers!
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Thank you kindly! Cheers!
I heard Argiano is owned by some big billionaires. So they probably just bought the number one spot.
It definitely seems out of place in the top ten; much less WOTY. It would be nice to know if financial consideration or advertising buys play a role in the selection for some of these wines.