Це відео не доступне.
Перепрошуємо.
Underrated BORDEAUX VALUES: Fourth Growth Bordeaux Wines (Wine Collecting)
Вставка
- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- In this wine collecting 101 video, John Jackson, DipWSET a/k/a Attorney Somm explains the 1855 Classification of Bordeaux and each of the 10 Fourth Growth Bordeaux wine producers. Attorney Somm also discusses buying strategies and some of his favorite vintages for each of these 10 producers. #bordeaux #wineeducation
FOURTH GROWTH PRODUCERS DISCUSSED IN THIS VIDEO
Chateau Saint-Pierre
Chateau Talbot
Chateau Branaire-Ducru
Chateau Duhart-Milon
Chateau Pouget
Chateau La Tour Carnet
Chateau Lafon-Rochet
Chateau Prieure-Lichine
Chateau Marquis de Terme
Chateau Beychevelle
ATTORNEY SOMM'S COMPLETE BORDEAUX VIDEO PLAYLIST
• Bordeaux Videos
ATTORNEY SOMM'S FIRST GROWTH BORDEAUX VIDEOS
Chateau Latour: • Wine Collecting: First...
Chateau Haut-Brion: • Wine Collecting: First...
Chateau Mouton Rothschild: • Wine Collecting: First...
Chateau Margaux: • Wine Collecting: First...
Chateau Lafite: • Wine Collecting: First...
Mouton's Artistic Wine Labels: • Château Mouton Rothsch...
Mouton's Elevation to First Growth: • From Second to First: ...
2017 Chateau Latour: • Bordeaux Brilliance: 2...
ATTORNEY SOMM CLASSIFIED GROWTH BORDEAUX VIDEOS
"Super Second Bordeaux" video: • Wine Collecting 101: S...
Second Growth Bordeaux video: • Wine Collecting: SECON...
Third Growth Bordeaux video: • Wine Collecting: THIRD...
Fourth Growth Bordeaux video: • Underrated BORDEAUX VA...
Fifth Growth Bordeaux video, part 1: • Wine Collecting: FIFTH...
Fifth Growth Bordeaux video, part 2: • Wine Collecting: FIFTH...
ATTORNEY SOMM BORDEAUX SECOND WINE VIDEOS
Right Bank Bordeaux Top Second Wines: • Right Bank Bordeaux: S...
Left Bank Bordeaux Top Second Wines: • Wine CELLAR DEFENDERS:...
ATTORNEY SOMM BORDEAUX VIDEOS ABOUT SPECIFIC WINERIES
Cheval Blanc: • What's So Special Abou...
Pichon Lalande & Pichon Baron: • PICHON LALANDE & PICHO...
Pichon Lalande: • Château Pichon Longuev...
Pichon Baron: • Château PICHON BARON O...
Chateau Palmer: • Wine Collecting: Châte...
Chateau Lynch-Bages: • Wine Collecting: Châte...
Pontet Canet: • Wine Collecting: Châte...
The Three Leovilles: • The Three Leovilles: L...
ATTORNEY SOMM BORDEAUX RECOMMENDATIONS BY VINTAGE
2020 Bordeaux: • 2020 Bordeaux: 9 MUST-...
2022 Bordeaux: • 2022 Bordeaux: 7 MUST-...
2023 Bordeaux: 9 Must-Have Wines: • 2023 Bordeaux: 9 MUST-...
2023 Bordeaux: 11 Bordeaux Best Buys: • 2023 Bordeaux: 11 BEST...
OTHER ATTORNEY SOMM BORDEAUX VIDEOS
10 Top $30 Bordeaux: • The Best Bordeaux on a...
10 Top $40 Bordeaux: • Wine Collecting - 10 T...
10 Top $50 Bordeaux Wines: • Wine Collecting 101 - ...
7 Top $50 Bordeaux Wines: • Wine Collecting - 7 T...
9 Top $75 Bordeaux: • 9 Top $75 BORDEAUX WIN...
10 Top $75 Bordeaux: • Wine Collecting - 10 T...
Bordeaux En Primeur: • Bordeaux EN PRIMEUR (B...
1990 First-Growth Bordeaux Tasting: • 1990 Bordeaux FIRST GR...
Ducru Beaucaillou Vertical Tasting: • Château DUCRU-BEAUCAIL...
Saint Emilion Overview: • Savoring SAINT-ÉMILION...
Bordeaux Breakdown: All You Need to Know About Bordeaux: • Bordeaux Breakdown: Ev...
WINE ACCESSORIES I USE
www.amazon.com...
MY FAVORITE FLASH SITE - Sign up to receive $10 off your first order!
www.lastbottle...
SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE WINE VIDEOS
/ attorneysomm
LET'S CONNECT
Instagram: attorneysomm
Twitter: / attorneysomm
LinkedIn: / johnm-jackson
DISCLOSURE
Some of the links above are set up through affiliate programs, which means that this channel receives a modest referral credit if you choose to purchase or sign up through the link(s) above. Affiliate links help allow me to continue to bring you great content and impartial wine reviews. Thank you for contributing to the Attorney Somm community!
To learn about the Third Growth Bordeaux wines, please watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/VqtASk4rSKU/v-deo.html
Good job.
Stumbled upon an outstanding vintage of Cte Beychevelle some years ago.
Something like a 2003, I think.
What a revelation!
Actually wandered up the actual chateau while visiting the Medoc with my daughter some years back.
Smack dab on the estuary there.
Floored by the number of Chinese roaming the Medoc, by the way- with cameras no less.
Realized pretty soon that I wasn’t the only one discovering the wine as prices exploded with subsequent strong vintages (2005, 2010, 2015, e.g.)
Great wine, but would prefer you kept that to just me and you.
Preciate ya, bro.
Thank you! Yes, Beychevelle does a fantastic job! Sounds like you had terrific timing, for sure!
Looking forward to my next trip to Bordeaux later this year!
I love drinking all of the 4th growth Bordeaux wines. Many thanks for this excellent in-depth review of them all.
Thank you, James! Lots of excellent Fourth Growths! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi John, amazing video as usual. Thank you for sharing. Beychevelle is very expensive in Asia, one of the most sort after red wines. I have tried Pouget 2011 and 2012.. both are quite good and very consistent quality, the price tag is also very reasonable, half the price of Beychevelle surely..again thank you for sharing this video
Thank you! That’s too bad re Beychevelle. Sounds good re Pouget! I’ll see if I can find it. 👍🍷
Absolutely fantastic video! I especially liked the history, planting percentages and proximity to other chateau. I have always felt like these fourth growth wines we're always a great value. I bought a bunch of 2000s long ago, and they were all great. Again, outstanding video and information. Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much! Completely agree with you about the value of these Fourth Growths. Very glad you enjoyed the video! Appreciate the kind feedback!
Another great video, thank you. I toured Bordeaux this past fall and visited Chateau Beychevelle. I believe their wines are high quality and worthy of your "Cellar Defender" status.
While in Bordeaux, we stayed at a Chateaux I cannot name. While returning from dinner, a member of the kitchen staff whispered to me to come into a hallway anteroom. There he had about a dozen bottles of partially filled first and second growth Bordeaux. In broken English he explained that a group of Chinese people had dinner at the Chateaux and the hotel staff didn't serve all the wine. Would I like to have some? A group of us pounded down some excellent Bordeaux, including Chateaux Talbot.
I tipped him very well on our departure.
By the way, I just passed WSET Level 2. On to Level 3!
Congratulations! Well done! Very glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the kind feedback. Sounds like a fantastic experience! Thanks for sharing it here. Cheers!
Excellent review! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Good job!!
My pleasure! Very glad you enjoyed it. Greatly appreciate the kind feedback. Cheers!
Your videos are always so helpful. Totally forgot about st Pierre .
I love all the ideas !!! Keep up the good work.
My pleasure! Thanks very much for watching, and the kind words!
Good info and suggestions as always! I always learn (and then shop) when I watch your episodes.
Thanks very much! Appreciate the kind feedback. Happy hunting!
Good choices… An aged Talbot turned me onto Bordeaux and I think Lafon-Rochet is one of best values in Bordeaux… It showed really well in a Bordeaux vs California Cab Blind Tasting video I did.
Thank you! Yes, the classification is still quite accurate for these Fourth Growth producers! If they were reclassified, only a couple minor tweaks would need to be made. Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend.
I follow both of you and enjoy your videos since early when you started. Its funny that you 2 are such different personalities and have a very different presentation style, but I enjoy both of your styles a lot. John would be excellent for a dinner at Capital Grille, while with Mathew I think a diiner at a fine Lebanese restaurant with some ambiance and maybe belly dancing :) Good luck to you 2 gentelman.
@@wren460 Ha! Thanks very much for the support! Greatly appreciate it. Glad you enjoy the videos!
@@AttorneySomm you should do a reclassification of the LB video 👌
@@Jonnhy99 thanks! Appreciate the suggestion!
These are all excellent recommendations - but then again, all your wine recommendations are always excellent. Though the Talbot is quite overpriced here, Chateau Lafon-Rochet and Prieure-Lichine are more reasonably priced in my usual wine cellar that specializes in Bordeaux. Thank you for this new shopping list!😁 You’re the best! Santé, John!
Santé Margaux! Very glad to hear that at least a couple of them are available at reasonable prices where you live! Hopefully, you will enjoy them! Merci!
@@AttorneySomm I’ve enjoyed the Second Wine of Prieure Lichine twice and that of Lafon-Rochet once, I think. I’ll bring this shopping list next time I go wine-hunting. I’m partial to Saint-Estephe so I’ll probably prioritize LR. Thanks again!😊
Great video. Always enjoy the Bordeaux content. St. Julien definitely well represented in the fourth growth category.
Recently opened a 2010 Talbot for my dad’s birthday. Really nice wine. Many other 4th growth producers to try, though!
By the way, I always enjoy the content on release, but equally if not more useful is to refer to previous videos when I’m looking into a specific category. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks very much! St. Julien is definitely a terrific source for some compelling values! Very glad you enjoyed the video and that they also serve as useful resource tools! Glad you enjoyed the Talbot! That was an excellent choice. Cheers!
thanks again for a worthwhile and interesting vid about my favorite subject ^_^
My pleasure! Thanks for watching and the kind feedback. Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought some bottles of Pouget in the 2013 vintage and I really liked it despite this year being generally considered one of the weakest in recent history. It cost me less than 30 euro a bottle in retail here in Poland. I haven't had a chance to taste it in other, better vintages, but it showed very well in a lesser one, which is a good sign to me 😀
Thanks for weighing in! Agree. That is very promising!
Very interesting video ! The only one I know is Château Talbot, very fine wine.
Just a thing about "Cos D'Estournel" pronunciation: both "s" are silent
Thanks very much! Yes, Talbot is excellent!
I learned the pronunciation from Jilien Miquel, a French winemaker, on his pronunciation videos. He pronounces both in his tutorial.
Thank you.
Lichine 2015 is drinking very good currently
Thank you! Much appreciated. Some of the 15s are definitely showing well young. Cheers!
Really excited about your videos on the crus. I very much look forward to the 5. Cru overview. Just read William Kelley’s review on Pontet Canet 2020 in bottle. He wasn’t allowed to taste it on the chateau (maybe because the 2019 went from 98p by Lisa Perotti Brown to a 93p score by him.?) The 2020 only scores 92+ so I can imagine some trouble being underway.
Thanks very much! Very interesting indeed. Yes, I’m a big fan of several Fifth Growths. That video is just a challenge, because there are so many of them. I’ll either do it in two parts or during a week I have more time than normal. Cheers!
@@AttorneySomm Two parts makes great sense. I really like your in depth pov on each winery and two parts could make time enough so that there could be room for interesting facts. Always funny to guess what growth each winery would be if a new classification would take place. Let me know if you want the reviews on Pontet Canet 2019 and 2020.
@@mgbbdk Thanks very much! Completely agree with you. That reclassification idea is a good one as well. Happy to hear your thoughts on the PC!
@@AttorneySomm great. Looking forward to some exciting future videos. Best wishes Martin, Denmark
@@mgbbdk Thank you, Martin! 👍🍷
Duhart-Milon '10, the wine that made me fall in love with bordeaux again after a long hiatus. Tried the '05 recently and was very dissappointed with it. Very thin and flabby, maybe a bad bottle or just a bad year for them. I'm focusing on the '16 now and will be stocking my cellar with the '19 and prepare for the magnificent '22.
Thank you! Yes I’ve been generally underwhelmed by 05 so far. Think that is a smart approach. 3 excellent vintages!
@@AttorneySomm The ‘05 were drinking quite nice a couple of years ago. I believe the wines are entering their second closing window. We will have to get back in 10-15 years and see if they really are the vintage of a lifetime as all the growers and critics claimed it to be. For now I’ll just enjoy the ‘09, ‘10 and ‘16’s as they are drinking so beautifully now.
Update - I came across a single bottle of Duhart-Milon '96 and opened it yesterday. Again a very disappointing offering from the château. Lack of concentration and depth. It seems like their '10 is their best wine yet. Currently drinking Grand-Puy-Lacoste and it performs great. It's clearly a superior Pauillac and also cheaper where I live. No more Duhart for me (besides the 2 bottles of '10 I have left in the cellar).
@@fvrs3411 Thank you for the update. Sorry to hear about the Duhart-Milon. Definitely agree with you about GPL! I have been very impressed with the bottles that I have opened.
Hey JJ! Happy Holidays! I am tempted to ask whether you are in NYC for business or pleasure, but you may have heard that before. Earlier in my collecting career, I looked to the Second Labels of the First Growths which back in the day were really great bargains. Over the long weekend, we have been celebrating with Joseph Perrier NV paired with Coral Trout Goujons, 2017 Petaluma Riesling with Mud Crab and 2021 Macon Villages Chameroy with Chinese Omelet. All dishes were cooked at home because your humble correspondent and his partner happily identify as a 1950's couple. Perhaps you can do me a solid by recommending three vintage Champagnes you may consider taking to a single bottle club dinner. I am also reading the Edith Grossman translation of Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes. The main character has gone mad from reading too many books and I think we both know how that feels. I drink wine, I read books and I know things! Cheers!
Cheers! Sounds like you had a fantastic holiday weekend! I was in NYC for legal business. Definitely lots of value in the second labels - especially before. I would try Taittinger Comtes, Pol Roger Winston Churchill & Marguet vintage Ambonnay. Cheers!
You should do a video where you tell us more about yourself ! How you started law and got interested in wine and etc !!!!
I’m curious
Thank you! Appreciate it! I was a guest on JCB live about 18 months ago. We discuss that quite a bit!
ua-cam.com/video/feBFPYRaxDE/v-deo.html
Very well done John. Funny because this weekend has kinda turned into a Bordeaux weekend for me. I had a slightly disappointing Cali Bordeaux blend on Friday. So I dug into some real Bordeaux's. Last night I had a wine I took a flier on, 2019 Collines de L'if. Tonight I'm preparing braised short ribs. The choices I have are some real ones. 2007 Chateau Pape Clement( I don't believe this was a part of the 1855 classification) , or 1996 Chateau Latour. Not sure what one yet. But the Latour is a bit of a special one to me, and the bottle is in exceptional condition. Not quite sure how much energy it will have left to age.
Any thoughts?
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. These Fourth Growths are often under the radar. Pape Clement has become a much better producer since Bernard Magrez bought it than it was in the 1850s. In fact, Haut-Brion was the only Graves producers that was classified in the 1855 classification. 1996 Latour is a very special wine! You can enjoy it now or it will age for decades. Just be sure to allow plenty of time as it may take a while to show its best and it will keep evolving as the hours pass. Enjoy!
Thanks John. I think I will let the Latour lay down for a bit longer. Thanks for the expertise.
So it's the Pape Clement. But the 2009 Puy-Lacoste is showing super well also. I'm very blessed to have a few choices, as these.
@@johnoneal4711 Thank you! Yes, lots of excellent choices. I'm a huge fan of the 2009 vintage in Bordeaux.
As a non-rich person that loves Bordeaux, it seems after long searches I have a tendency to end up with St. Julien wines in my storage. It definitely seems to be where the values often show up.
Yes! Completely agree. Definitely an excellent source for value.
You should look into fronsac too.
@@alessandrobotti8981 This year especially. The King awakens! 😊
which aoc delivers the most elegant style on the left bank? saint julien?
i think i’m gonna buy some Brainaire 2018, or maybe 2019, i think 2019 is more elegant.
It varies a bit by producer, but if I had to generalize, Margaux is probably most elegant and then St. Julien. Branaire is an excellent choice!
Pouget is 90 dollars at our local retailers! Yikes
Ouch! That seems like a lot more than just the difference in currency value. Such a shame.
@@AttorneySomm you’re telling me!!