Say what you will about The Hobbit films (personally it should _not_ have been more than two movies) but the fact that Graham McTavish went from a presenter on a documentary on Tolkien to Dwalin in The Hobbit isn't a mean feat.
@@oscarstainton It's likely Jackson saw this documentary and offered him the part as a nod to it. I just hope he taught him how to pronounce 'Caradhras' correctly.😁
@@legionarybooks13 Isildur put the Ring on as the orcs attacked his party riding north and it betrayed him, slipping off his finger( cuz it changed size trying to get back to it`s master) and the orcs then saw him in the river and loosed arrows on him, and killed him.
@@dpotter4963 Boromir does njot really fit. He never touched the Ring. Just seeing it made him go crazy and tried to steal it from Frodo. Boromir was an ass. He did not respect anyone, and he whined about every move Gandalf or Aragorn ever made. Galadriel saw right thru him, and read his mind. She knew he would try to take the Ring. So, being the prick he was, he said"I don`t trust this Elvish lady and her purposes. She pretends to give us things that she can`t, but it need not be said that I refused her. The men of Gondor are true to their word". Sorry for typo.
I love watching these pre-Peter Jackson documentaries. Not that I don't like the films (Which I think are really great) but it's interesting to see how LotR was talked about before it broke into the mainstream culture.
Although I think the Jackson films are amazing films and very good adaptations, I sometimes wish I could erase them from my mind so I could form my own images when reading the books.
I have never met anyone that "deeply dislikes" Tolkien's writings, only people who understand it and love it, or people that don't understand it and don't generally care either way.
i thought the exact same thing.. . seems like ppl either love it, or else ppl like me (who generally don't connect with fantasy all that much) aren't usually going to pick up a 1000+ page book just to have something to whine about.. . i've noticed a lot of documentaries from across the pond have to feature at least ONE know-it-all who can't just say 'one of the most beloved fantasy stories of all time', but always have to find SOMETHING snotty to say.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
love jrr tolkiens work. he is very great writer. love the movies . as an expat from south africa jrr tolkien he make us proud. thank you mister tolkien exellent work love it.😄
38:45 - Rivendell is not Sindarin - it is English: literally "riven dell" or "cut valley". Tolkien used English to represent the Common Speech of the Hobbits. In French translations it is "Fondcombe" and in German "Bruchtal".
This is a brilliant documentary I have learned a lot I have just recently re watched the lord of the rings trilogy I hadn't watched it since it came out lol and wow there brilliant am in love I need the books now love the history and lore
Johnny, you really need to read Tolkien to understand how brilliant his writing is. A genius. The movies are okay, at least the visuals are great, but they take away huge parts of the books, and put things in that make no sense at all, and are not real, or true to the books. You are sorely missing out by not reading Tolkien. Trust me, you will NOT be let down.
I have read all the books starting with the HOBBIT & THE LORD of the RINGS. I also watched all of Peteer Jackson films.. All were great. I have them o on DVD . GREAT DOC!!!!!
What really intrigues me, is something Robert DiNapoli points out. Tolkien seemed to try & fill the gap of Anglo-Saxon lack of mythology. But I wonder then... how much sense do modern English men have of their Anglo-Saxon origin? Do they actively recognize their Germanic heritage and compare it with pre-Anglo-Saxon Brittany? How do they actually conceive the Arthurian legend? Have they embraced it as their own or is it a foreign narrative to them, as it recounts the opposition of local Romano-British Christian populations to their ethnic progenitors? Of course it is obvious even in today's standards that they distinguish themselves from other ethnicities of the United Kingdom, but if that's the case, shouldn't at least some bits & pieces of their early Germanic oral mythological tradition have survived into the modern era, even if camouflaged inside the later on prevailing Christianity?
Good question! Tolkien personally did not like the fact that England totally changed in 1066. The Normans came over to conquer the country. William the Conqueror had arrived and he pretty easily crushed England`s army`s. He was the great, great(however many generations) of Rollo, or Rollo the walker, a Viking who was bought off by the weak King Charles. He was given Normandy (North man land) and the title of Duke. He was to help protect Paris and inner France by controlling the river Siene, and thwarting incoming attacks from other countries including the Vikings from Scandinavia and Dublin Ireland. So , at the end of the day, the Vikings conquered England for good.
@@gib59er56 That may be the case, but wasn't England already the product of such changes and cultural intermingles some 600 years in the past during the Germanic peoples' migrations between the 4th and 6th century CE? Also, given both their cultural ancestries, the French and English people of that time may not have been as far, as we may think, as both had been a combination of Germanic, Celtic and Roman descendats, although of different intra-ethnic tribal origins each. Franks and Angles had already claimed & conquered Roman territory, much like their other contemporary Germanic tribes, establishing territorial reign, until they were threatened by north Germanic expansionism themselves a couple of centuries later in history. Even in the context of this later intemingling with invaders of Scandinavian origin & their unambiguous Germanic culture, it shouldn't have been such a foreign notion to them, as they should have been relatively close in all cultural terms just a few centuries ago.
You can search far and wide You can drink the whole town dry But you’ll never find a beer so brown (But you’ll never find a beer so brown) As the one we drink in our hometown You can drink your fancy ales You can drink them by the flagon But the only brew for the brave and true Comes from the Green Dragon
‘Tolkien makes clear that Middle Earth was in our world, “in the northeast of the old world”, so it is Europe’, someone said. But it’s wrong! It’s about Pangea!
Just saw an interview where he said it isnt from a different time its our earth but with a diffreent reality pr imagination of it nothing to do with it being the old earth sorry but I just heard the man say it i believed it was an old earth too but Tolkien did not
"The Lord of the Rings got written mostly during the war years, and a great deal of it was written when he was on Air Raid Warden duty at night. He used to cause slight disturbances to the Oxford Air Raid Wardens because he forgot to ring up his Superior Officer to say he hadn't been bombed!"
26:15 WHAT THE... how can u simply GLOSS over tom bombidill like that !? Ugh, shame bc i WOULD have thought these guys who presumedily seem like the Tolkein "experts" 🤓 would be closest to disclosing this hidden gem of a character, but alas, he still yet remains, a mystery...
Surprised no one has commented on the fact that the host, Graham McTavish, ended up playing Dwalin in the Hobbit films almost a decade later!
Because this vid is so old, it has probably been mentioned ad nauseam by others who saw it before you.
Say what you will about The Hobbit films (personally it should _not_ have been more than two movies) but the fact that Graham McTavish went from a presenter on a documentary on Tolkien to Dwalin in The Hobbit isn't a mean feat.
@@oscarstainton It's likely Jackson saw this documentary and offered him the part as a nod to it. I just hope he taught him how to pronounce 'Caradhras' correctly.😁
It was hard to recognize him as much younger as he is here. I wonder when this series was made.
Never knew
Bilbo wasn't the only person to give up the ring voluntarily.... Sam gave it back to Frodo.
Sam and Tom Bombadil were the only characters to wear the ring and avoid being conquered by it.
Not sure if Isildur ever actually wore the ring before his death, but the point of his fatal journey was in fact to relinquish it to Elrond.
...so did Boromir.
@@legionarybooks13 Isildur put the Ring on as the orcs attacked his party riding north and it betrayed him, slipping off his finger( cuz it changed size trying to get back to it`s master) and the orcs then saw him in the river and loosed arrows on him, and killed him.
@@dpotter4963 Boromir does njot really fit. He never touched the Ring. Just seeing it made him go crazy and tried to steal it from Frodo. Boromir was an ass. He did not respect anyone, and he whined about every move Gandalf or Aragorn ever made. Galadriel saw right thru him, and read his mind. She knew he would try to take the Ring. So, being the prick he was, he said"I don`t trust this Elvish lady and her purposes. She pretends to give us things that she can`t, but it need not be said that I refused her. The men of Gondor are true to their word". Sorry for typo.
That's Dwalin!
I love watching these pre-Peter Jackson documentaries. Not that I don't like the films (Which I think are really great) but it's interesting to see how LotR was talked about before it broke into the mainstream culture.
LOTR had already sold 100 million copies by the time the movies came out.
This docu was made when the movies came out
Although I think the Jackson films are amazing films and very good adaptations, I sometimes wish I could erase them from my mind so I could form my own images when reading the books.
@@Advancedgod Same.
@@Advancedgod To me the Hildebrandt paintings are what the characters look like in the books.
I have never met anyone that "deeply dislikes" Tolkien's writings, only people who understand it and love it, or people that don't understand it and don't generally care either way.
i thought the exact same thing.. . seems like ppl either love it, or else ppl like me (who generally don't connect with fantasy all that much) aren't usually going to pick up a 1000+ page book just to have something to whine about.. . i've noticed a lot of documentaries from across the pond have to feature at least ONE know-it-all who can't just say 'one of the most beloved fantasy stories of all time', but always have to find SOMETHING snotty to say.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He was probably referencing more literary people, critics or writers themselves. They would have stronger opinions and less of a "meh" attitude.
This is an amazing documentary, im so glad that i stumbled upon this in the youtube hobbit hole.. This deserves to be shared and have more views.
A wonderfully insightful commentary on the Fellowship of the Ring. Thank you for sharing.
love jrr tolkiens work. he is very great writer. love the movies . as an expat from south africa jrr tolkien he make us proud. thank you mister tolkien exellent work love it.😄
Both Sam and Tom Bombadil gave up the ring voluntarily.
38:45 - Rivendell is not Sindarin - it is English: literally "riven dell" or "cut valley". Tolkien used English to represent the Common Speech of the Hobbits. In French translations it is "Fondcombe" and in German "Bruchtal".
Imladris would be the Sindarin.
"Kløvendal" in Norwegian, as in "cloven" :-)
Ravijn in dutch, or ravine.
In brazilian portuguese is "Valfenda"
Gleann Gearraidh in Scots Gaelic..... Torri Dyffrn in Cymric
*”BY MY BEARD! YOU’RE SHORTER AND WIDER THAN LAST WE MET!”*
Where was this gem before? I love it
This is a brilliant documentary I have learned a lot I have just recently re watched the lord of the rings trilogy I hadn't watched it since it came out lol and wow there brilliant am in love I need the books now love the history and lore
Johnny, you really need to read Tolkien to understand how brilliant his writing is. A genius. The movies are okay, at least the visuals are great, but they take away huge parts of the books, and put things in that make no sense at all, and are not real, or true to the books. You are sorely missing out by not reading Tolkien. Trust me, you will NOT be let down.
Sheer awesomeness!!! Thanks for this post!!!
16:28 Sam, Sam gave up the ring voluntarily
Great how they got one of the dwarves to present this 👌
LOL. good one! Mc Tavish is great. But he is making alot of mistakes in pronouncing names and places.
Excellent documentary
Epic and well narrated!!!
hello Dwalin! good to see you.
An excellent documentary, but the volume is way too low.
I have read all the books starting with the HOBBIT & THE LORD of the RINGS.
I also watched all of Peteer Jackson films..
All were great. I have them o
on DVD . GREAT DOC!!!!!
What really intrigues me, is something Robert DiNapoli points out. Tolkien seemed to try & fill the gap of Anglo-Saxon lack of mythology. But I wonder then... how much sense do modern English men have of their Anglo-Saxon origin? Do they actively recognize their Germanic heritage and compare it with pre-Anglo-Saxon Brittany? How do they actually conceive the Arthurian legend? Have they embraced it as their own or is it a foreign narrative to them, as it recounts the opposition of local Romano-British Christian populations to their ethnic progenitors? Of course it is obvious even in today's standards that they distinguish themselves from other ethnicities of the United Kingdom, but if that's the case, shouldn't at least some bits & pieces of their early Germanic oral mythological tradition have survived into the modern era, even if camouflaged inside the later on prevailing Christianity?
That is a good question Nick. I never really thought about that, I guess because I am a Yank.
Good question! Tolkien personally did not like the fact that England totally changed in 1066. The Normans came over to conquer the country. William the Conqueror had arrived and he pretty easily crushed England`s army`s. He was the great, great(however many generations) of Rollo, or Rollo the walker, a Viking who was bought off by the weak King Charles. He was given Normandy (North man land) and the title of Duke. He was to help protect Paris and inner France by controlling the river Siene, and thwarting incoming attacks from other countries including the Vikings from Scandinavia and Dublin Ireland. So , at the end of the day, the Vikings conquered England for good.
@@gib59er56 That may be the case, but wasn't England already the product of such changes and cultural intermingles some 600 years in the past during the Germanic peoples' migrations between the 4th and 6th century CE? Also, given both their cultural ancestries, the French and English people of that time may not have been as far, as we may think, as both had been a combination of Germanic, Celtic and Roman descendats, although of different intra-ethnic tribal origins each. Franks and Angles had already claimed & conquered Roman territory, much like their other contemporary Germanic tribes, establishing territorial reign, until they were threatened by north Germanic expansionism themselves a couple of centuries later in history. Even in the context of this later intemingling with invaders of Scandinavian origin & their unambiguous Germanic culture, it shouldn't have been such a foreign notion to them, as they should have been relatively close in all cultural terms just a few centuries ago.
You can search far and wide
You can drink the whole town dry
But you’ll never find a beer so brown
(But you’ll never find a beer so brown)
As the one we drink in our hometown
You can drink your fancy ales
You can drink them by the flagon
But the only brew for the brave and true
Comes from the Green Dragon
Are there any DVDs of these documentaries?
It is only appropriate for one Lord of the Rings fan to smoke a pipe while watching videos of Lord of the Rings like this.
A) first B) Dougal MacKenzie 🙀
🥰🥰
There should be documentaries that analyze The Wheel of Time and maybe even A Song of Ice and Fire when it gets finished (I have faith in Martin).
‘Tolkien makes clear that Middle Earth was in our world, “in the northeast of the old world”, so it is Europe’, someone said. But it’s wrong! It’s about Pangea!
Just saw an interview where he said it isnt from a different time its our earth but with a diffreent reality pr imagination of it nothing to do with it being the old earth sorry but I just heard the man say it i believed it was an old earth too but Tolkien did not
McTavish?! That’s so funny considering he was able to star in the Hobbit so many years later!
"Nature, red in tooth and claw" at 24:30. Don't you mean Tennyson, not Ted Hughes?
All the Ring wanted to do was go back to the fires which it was formed.
Why is the mercanary captain from Rambo lecturing on Tolkien?
I wonder their opinions on the movies
Hey! Thst is Dwalin i think!!
When was this documentary made? 🙁
2003
@@TalkingTolkien Thanks! 😀
Can someone explain please what did Father John Tolkien say at 3:04 - 3:10?
@TalkingTolkien please answer!
"The Lord of the Rings got written mostly during the war years, and a great deal of it was written when he was on Air Raid Warden duty at night. He used to cause slight disturbances to the Oxford Air Raid Wardens because he forgot to ring up his Superior Officer to say he hadn't been bombed!"
@@TalkingTolkien Thank you so much!
Dougal MacKenzie?
You are wider and shorter than last time.
Who would dislike LOTR ? fools.
"You 'int seen me....... roight!..... "
"The Fast Show" fans might get it from the first shot of the presenter haha...
Literally... haha - ua-cam.com/video/s6jYoagXmZE/v-deo.html
Interestingly, the English trait that is not mentioned is the incredible prejudice towards any other people except English people.
26:15 WHAT THE... how can u simply GLOSS over tom bombidill like that !?
Ugh, shame bc i WOULD have thought these guys who presumedily seem like the Tolkein "experts" 🤓 would be closest to disclosing this hidden gem of a character, but alas, he still yet remains, a mystery...
In order to get the low down on Lord of the RINGs you have to start with the Bible
Jesus...some ridiculous haircuts ... do British people use HairBrushes?
English people, not british.
No such thing as british people as british and britishness is just english and englishness.
And of course they do.
Troll.
Gay