I was thinking the same thing about it looking okay to go in. I've been doing this as a volly for 27 yrs, and paid for the past 5yrs. I am 'that guy' who is teaching our younger volunteer's how to stay safe.... and this caught me by surprise. You are right..... they are almost always unpredictable. Definately will be showing this vid at our next drill.
Man, that smoke is bookin' it! To the incendiary device comment, the fire seems to be in a back room. That room flashed and the fire when through a door (and the window seems partially obscured) so looks like the bottom only flashed. Just what my untrained eyes sees, not ruling out a device. Anyway, a good vid for training and reading smoke :)
I wanted to say falshover but there wasn't a lot a flame showing after the incident occurred. Its possible that one room could have flashed and the backpressure forced its way throughout the rest of the house.
Looks to me the reason this happened back door is open wind is blowing toward the A side right through the back door no exit for the gases and smoke to vent pressurized fresh air boom. If the A side had the front door open that would of vented the gases and smoke out of the house.
some form of a probable secondary incendiary device...maximize the screen..look the very base of the fire behind the 3rd window prior to 1:08..watch the fire explode at the floor level and not ceiling level. the source of the ignition is low..you can rule out a normal flashover, in this situation here..
How do homes always manage to catch on fire while nobody's there or late at night while every one's asleep and not awake, or there, to accidentally start the fire?
huh, ya now that I looked at it more closely it makes sense...but it still looks like a flashover to me. if it was closer maybe id see more clearly. hm, wonder what the finds to the investigation were.
Watched this tape 4 times. The only clue is the smoke pushing out above the window to the right of the open door. Hopefully, incoming crews would have vented that side before going in.
not a backdraft. Backdrafts normally give you some indications, such as puffing smoke or smoke being sucked back into the fire. This was a flashover. the only other possibility was that a window broke allowing a fresh supply of oxygen to the fird quickly when it was close to flashover.
That is a fully developed well ventilated fire, therefore it is a Flashover not a Backdraft
I was thinking the same thing about it looking okay to go in. I've been doing this as a volly for 27 yrs, and paid for the past 5yrs. I am 'that guy' who is teaching our younger volunteer's how to stay safe.... and this caught me by surprise. You are right..... they are almost always unpredictable. Definately will be showing this vid at our next drill.
Man, that smoke is bookin' it! To the incendiary device comment, the fire seems to be in a back room. That room flashed and the fire when through a door (and the window seems partially obscured) so looks like the bottom only flashed. Just what my untrained eyes sees, not ruling out a device. Anyway, a good vid for training and reading smoke :)
The first engine on-scene arrived in just over 3 minutes travel time.
Did FD ever respond? How long did it take?
I wanted to say falshover but there wasn't a lot a flame showing after the incident occurred. Its possible that one room could have flashed and the backpressure forced its way throughout the rest of the house.
you can see the flames in the other room intensify if you were paying attention, it was a flashover, not all flashovers involved an entire room bud.
Looks to me the reason this happened back door is open wind is blowing toward the A side right through the back door no exit for the gases and smoke to vent pressurized fresh air boom. If the A side had the front door open that would of vented the gases and smoke out of the house.
some form of a probable secondary incendiary device...maximize the screen..look the very base of the fire behind the 3rd window prior to 1:08..watch the fire explode at the floor level and not ceiling level. the source of the ignition is low..you can rule out a normal flashover, in this situation here..
That's what I was thinking. Its definately not a backdraft.
i think what we have here is a flashover although a backdraft could have been caused by the police officer who decided to kick in the front door
Where was the Fire Department and how come there's no audio?
How do homes always manage to catch on fire while nobody's there or late at night while every one's asleep and not awake, or there, to accidentally start the fire?
This doesn't look Kosher to me.
Snow on the ground and the door(s) is wide open, as well as a window.
Van in the drive sans plate.
huh, ya now that I looked at it more closely it makes sense...but it still looks like a flashover to me. if it was closer maybe id see more clearly. hm, wonder what the finds to the investigation were.
The first engine on-scene arrived in just over 3 minutes travel time. The camera's audio (mic) was in the off position. Work safe.
I have seen much bigger fire than this one. there is also a video on youtube that says a fire consumes a house in chicago
double flash over
scary stuff
Watched this tape 4 times. The only clue is the smoke pushing out above the window to the right of the open door. Hopefully, incoming crews would have vented that side before going in.
Smoke Explosion
not a backdraft. Backdrafts normally give you some indications, such as puffing smoke or smoke being sucked back into the fire. This was a flashover. the only other possibility was that a window broke allowing a fresh supply of oxygen to the fird quickly when it was close to flashover.
a more accurate answer would have been flashover.
1:07 flashover occured
flashover
People probably busted the door down and opened the window to see what they could do to the fire
Classic flashover.
this is a backdraft Spectacular