Agreed. I took an extended stay away from Warframe and found this guy when I came back and started fresh on PC. Made brushing up so much easier with all the changes that have happened during my time away.
I remember back when everyone and their mothers were running Boltor Primes with Mareloks. Ah, how the mighty have fallen. I really didn’t expect that any of the syndicate weapons were worse than their BASE counterpart.
@@noteansylvan6051 Yeah, it’s weird that the base Akbolto deals more than the Telos. I was here when they brought the update and just assumed it was better.
I still use Secura Dual Cestra with a riven on Hyldrin and there is no better weapon for her, I get a refresh to my shield if I hold it while I use my 3 and 4 abilities in tandum and when I am not using my abilities, it shreds even in arbitration when its not the chosen weapon. Edit: My Synoid Gammacor (also with a riven) is even more powerful and deletes enemies in literal nano seconds, all my other frames use this as a secondary for constant energy refills
For a while the Vaykor Marelok was my favorite gun in the game, it was the first gun I fully modded and it served well throughout the entirety of the main starchart
Was my main pistol before the Laetum came by. That weapon gives me the same satisfaction, but is amazing in terms of damage even without being fully upped.
Honestly, the Sancti Magistar is still my favourite Melee weapon. I loved the healing years ago and still do. One thing that is noteworthy, it can heal objectives. Not all at once but it procs Regen on it for a short time. There isn’t much that can actually heal objectives.
@@conservativestrawman9837 Yep. It can also heal sentinels if for some reason there’s no health Regen on it. I have a Riven for mine that takes the Crit up to 191% with automatic red crits on ANY heavy attack and some initial combo with more damage.
Hydron? It was always Akkad and Draco for me, as Hydron has higher level enemies but roughly the same affinity gain in the other nodes and you could stay there longer on frames you were leveling. It only became worth to go to hydron if you were using a frame that could screen clear without weapons like Ember or Banshee who were already levelled. I still go to Hydron every now and again, but now my Mag basically kills enemies as they spawn its so funny.
Doing the Secura Dual Cestra, Vaykor Marelok, and both Heks kinda dirty here, but other than that good show. Shame what's happened to the Vaykor Sydon and Secura Lecta.
I use the castanas as a stealth weapon cause even if someone literally sees the thing explode and their ally die they act like they didn't see it at all
I'm finding it difficult buying the syndicate weapons from players that I don't have. Either everyone's in the wrong syndicate or nobody online is selling em. On PS4 btw, so options are limited unfortunately.
Secura Lecta is heavily nerfed compared to what it use to be, it used to give massive amounts of credits. So I won't expect any buffs there anytime soon. Also, according to wiki, regular Dark Dagger gives movement speed buff, Rakta version loses on this.
i bought the sancti castanas for 20p because i always loved using the castanas. it's just so fun to use; throwing them onto my teammates and sending them straight into the enemy is so awesome to see.
Sancti Castanas we’re actually a go-to secondary for me for a long time. They’re handicapped by lacking slash price, but the forced status proc and riven disposition made them hit pretty hard; especially if you manually detonate over enemy heads instead of allowing them to land. Also, the lateral multishot pattern is fantastic for deleting entire rooms, even at relatively high levels, but only with a riven. The massive AoE also makes it one of the best Spore spreaders in the game.
he should have mentioned augments, rivens even when they are rng have also become a huge part of warframe builds are also neglected and the stat changes are unclear and shown with 1 to 3 green arrows as if they are supposed to mean something directly obvious
its worth mention for synoid heliocor, the main damage is impact so it benefits from shattering impact and its a hammer which means you already have a good fast stance for stripping armor with heavy attacks.
@@macobus6743 the amount of a damage stat effect IPS priority. So being Impact heavy means more procs also the hammers have on of the best multi-hit spin combos. So it vary much does matter, plus synoid heliocor has a bonus initial combo one of only 2 melee with such a distinction the other being fragor prime which is one of the harder to get old gen prime melee. So synoid heliocor doubles as a budget heavy attack hammer. Check mate.
I remember the Secura lecta was a thing to earn 2m cred under 30 waves of infested defence with a booster tileset and a credit booster. Four squad of people only bringing it and whip the credits off the infested booty. It was so good that the nef anyo index was not relevant anymore.
SDC can be useful due to not wasting that much ammo, but the overall damage output is rather limited. If you like rapid fire laser guns, give the Athodai a shot.
honestly you can shred anything thats not steel path with an MK 1 Breton if you really wanted to Triburous current run using only one very pathetic weapon shows that pretty well theres no such thing as true MR fodder in warframe you like it? you play it im also quite fond of the secura dual cestra and even have a decent riven for it (witch is something this video dosent even get into)
@@BrokenRazorButterfly By Shreds near everything i mean it literally shreds everything, ive used it in steel path and mind u this is without rivens. Such an insanely fun weapon
i mainly want these weapons for fasion frame im going for like syndicate themed loadouts and using warframes that have similarity to syndicate, for example: making ash into red veil cause edgy bois
Just a note, and this is probably outdated at this point, but I use sancti castanas with a navigator ivara built to take down eidolons. It's pretty fun cause once they are set up you just pop the shields and press a button to blow a limb up.
Frankly I love my Telos Boltor so much I have a massive CC/CD Riven It melts everything But you failed to mention that the Vaykor Hek can't use the Hek-exclusive Scattered Justice and thus doesn't get that sweet +200% multishot
Sorry but *VAYKOR MARELOK* just rocks. Still one of my most used guns until today, and I play this game like for 5 years. Was my main for all star map and still tank high level content. And now with Hemorrage it´s just broken as ever. And have a plus: FASHION and fashion is ENDGAME.
I use synoid heliocor. As a heavy attack build. I use the status chance to get almost 150% status so if I'm lucky I can just 1 shot very beefy mods of any faction. And cause I have mild crit I put in berserker and kill herds of enemies without problem with or without heavy attacks
Fun fact: Your pronunciation of "Sydon" is almost certainly correct, as it's name is a play on "Poseidon" (y'know, 'cause it's a trident, and the greek god of water, and.... yeah.) I'm only mentioning this because it took me like 3 years of playing this game before I realized this. Yes, I'm an idiot... but maybe there are others like me out here.
only thing i use regularly is the rakta cernos, now that covert lethality is dead. other wise dark dagger and rakta cernos on ivara was a grt option so u can take out energize .
i dont know if the s lecta's formula changed but it used to scale with MR and was something like 3x base and 0.5 per rank? something like that, really dont remember, anyway it was capable of 1 million credits in half an hour on akkad back in its hayday, so *shrug*
I love the castanas. I used to troll people with them when doing void key missions. Id plaster them all over a player and run off to get a radiation proc from a laser, then activate alt fire and one hit them from miles away. Probably not possible anymore due to shield gating :/
I'm curious about the companion you use to heal yourself, I can't find it in game and currently levelling inaros, would really help with survival thanks
From your combat footage, it looks like you need to double your DPI and half your sensitivity. It will let you aim between your current arcs, but feel like the same speed. Letting you do more precise shots. And make your footage smoother. Or you can go further and triple or quadruple DPI with inverse sensitivity. (If youre still running these settings.)
The lack of slash on the teloce boltace isn't actually that bad, seeing how it has access to sovereign outcast, as well as tonfas having forced slash on heavy attacks. It also groups enemies remarkably well, so it's good for frames that don't have any grouping ability, and benefit from gas damage (hint hint wink wink lavos)
castanas would usable if they removed the limitation of 4 max projectiles laying around the map....multishot sucks on htem because it (rip my multishot riven *sniff*)
Vaykor Sydon is a monster with a Crit riven in part because it's a swift Polearm with high status that triggers the Aura Growing Power all the time... I'm MR L2, this is my main melee. Range, speed, comfort, high status and a Crit riven = No fuss & no fidling. Just destroys and Power trigger. Saryn's main jam.
Never taken into a mission, nor had any upgrades like an orokin catalyst. If you have done anything to it other than put mods on it, then the weapon cannot be traded.
That's not the bow doing it, that's Ivara's ability "Navigator". Works with almost any projectile, including arrows, thrown weapons, even the semi-auto shot from the Fulmin or Fluctus.
Lmao your take on the cestra was laughably wrong it’s deadass the best syndicate weapon, the fire rate is already fast enough and with a good build it can stand against level 400+ enemies. The dispo was nerfed because it was so good you could get a ms cd based riven and practically do tri caps with it lmfao.
What buff do you think the Secura Lecta should have?
To secure your credits even if you fail the mission
Combo multiplier affects credit bonus. For funsies.
@@Orosian5 Oooh, I like that idea!
@@АлексейКораблин-э7е yeah but who’s failing missions these days?
Item drop chance scales with forma/rank
You don't use the marelock for killing efficiently. You use if for killing with style
This man gets it lol
I absolutely love my Vaykor Marelok. I've got a riven for making it an anti corpus monster.
Same reason I always use a scythe whenever it's not that serious
@@electricnick260
Corpus racist riven
Nice simple run down. Advertising at the end the video. Way underrated, underviewed and undersubscribed. Awesome content. Thank you
Agreed. I took an extended stay away from Warframe and found this guy when I came back and started fresh on PC. Made brushing up so much easier with all the changes that have happened during my time away.
True, true, true and true. True.
My thoughts exactly
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Sancti Magistar is amazing weapon for defense and mob. defense missons, because it also heals targets
I remember back when everyone and their mothers were running Boltor Primes with Mareloks. Ah, how the mighty have fallen.
I really didn’t expect that any of the syndicate weapons were worse than their BASE counterpart.
Synoid heliocor used to be a direct downgrade and now it's a decent sidegrade if you like status.
@@noteansylvan6051 Yeah, it’s weird that the base Akbolto deals more than the Telos. I was here when they brought the update and just assumed it was better.
I still use Secura Dual Cestra with a riven on Hyldrin and there is no better weapon for her, I get a refresh to my shield if I hold it while I use my 3 and 4 abilities in tandum and when I am not using my abilities, it shreds even in arbitration when its not the chosen weapon.
Edit: My Synoid Gammacor (also with a riven) is even more powerful and deletes enemies in literal nano seconds, all my other frames use this as a secondary for constant energy refills
@@conservativestrawman9837 I still call my Secura Duals as my Buck Rogers gun since the shot pattern looks like the ending credit Stars.
Boltor is back baybe
"the dps is just terribly low"
Meanwhile on console:
*vaykor marelok kills steel path enemies in 1 shot*
Haemorrhage saved that weapon.
@@aravinds3846 Nah Vaykor Marelok was good as well before. Now is just broken lol
For a while the Vaykor Marelok was my favorite gun in the game, it was the first gun I fully modded and it served well throughout the entirety of the main starchart
it my most played secondary still ( even if i dont use it at all nowadays) and im MR30 now xD
Was my main pistol before the Laetum came by. That weapon gives me the same satisfaction, but is amazing in terms of damage even without being fully upped.
When I noticed Rakta Dark Dagger's shield buffs, first thought I had? "...I'm gonna put this on Harrow."
I've been using the RDD on Harrow for a few days now and it just synergies with his kit so well, I love it
Honestly, the Sancti Magistar is still my favourite Melee weapon. I loved the healing years ago and still do.
One thing that is noteworthy, it can heal objectives. Not all at once but it procs Regen on it for a short time.
There isn’t much that can actually heal objectives.
I'm working on a Sancti Magistar + Oberon Prime build for this exact reason, his renew skill will heal objectives
@@conservativestrawman9837 Yep. It can also heal sentinels if for some reason there’s no health Regen on it.
I have a Riven for mine that takes the Crit up to 191% with automatic red crits on ANY heavy attack and some initial combo with more damage.
I really don’t miss the time when you could afk hydron with mirage and synoid simulor
Hydron? It was always Akkad and Draco for me, as Hydron has higher level enemies but roughly the same affinity gain in the other nodes and you could stay there longer on frames you were leveling. It only became worth to go to hydron if you were using a frame that could screen clear without weapons like Ember or Banshee who were already levelled. I still go to Hydron every now and again, but now my Mag basically kills enemies as they spawn its so funny.
was waiting for this. Good content
In the first 30 second. I saw the intro with the rakta cernos and i new that this channel is underrated. Great job. Amazing video and rewiew
Doing the Secura Dual Cestra, Vaykor Marelok, and both Heks kinda dirty here, but other than that good show. Shame what's happened to the Vaykor Sydon and Secura Lecta.
Vay Kor Hek is one of my absolute faves. I do love the dual Cestras, but I agree, they weren't amazing...I just love bullet hoses.
The synod heliocor is definitely an upgrade. Condition overload is a hell of a mod
I use the castanas as a stealth weapon cause even if someone literally sees the thing explode and their ally die they act like they didn't see it at all
I'm finding it difficult buying the syndicate weapons from players that I don't have. Either everyone's in the wrong syndicate or nobody online is selling em. On PS4 btw, so options are limited unfortunately.
Me too, i’, on switch. :(
its probably a bit late for it lol, but if anything on ps4 has this issue i am in steel meridian, Arbiters of hexis, red veil and the perrin sequence
DM me if you need something, I am with Perrin Sequence, Red Veil, and New Loka
Secura Lecta is heavily nerfed compared to what it use to be, it used to give massive amounts of credits. So I won't expect any buffs there anytime soon. Also, according to wiki, regular Dark Dagger gives movement speed buff, Rakta version loses on this.
i bought the sancti castanas for 20p because i always loved using the castanas. it's just so fun to use; throwing them onto my teammates and sending them straight into the enemy is so awesome to see.
also, i went with suda and arbiters because my friend wanted me too so he can get some of the mods/weapons and i feel a little screwed over lol
For the simulor, you gotta use Mirage to take advantage of it
I have a + multi, dmg, heat riven for the synoid gammacor and anything I throw at it, even better than most my primary’s. Praise the 5/5 dispo
Sancti Castanas we’re actually a go-to secondary for me for a long time. They’re handicapped by lacking slash price, but the forced status proc and riven disposition made them hit pretty hard; especially if you manually detonate over enemy heads instead of allowing them to land. Also, the lateral multishot pattern is fantastic for deleting entire rooms, even at relatively high levels, but only with a riven.
The massive AoE also makes it one of the best Spore spreaders in the game.
I will say though, I’ve largely abandoned the Sancti Castanas as an AoE secondary since the Sporelacer became available.
I think you should have mentioned the augment mod for the hek at that comparison.
he should have mentioned augments, rivens even when they are rng have also become a huge part of warframe builds are also neglected and the stat changes are unclear and shown with 1 to 3 green arrows as if they are supposed to mean something directly obvious
Didn't even know half of these things about syndicates, under-rated
its worth mention for synoid heliocor, the main damage is impact so it benefits from shattering impact and its a hammer which means you already have a good fast stance for stripping armor with heavy attacks.
The amount of impact doesn't affect the armor strip whatsoever so let ng as it has impact
@@macobus6743 the amount of a damage stat effect IPS priority.
So being Impact heavy means more procs also the hammers have on of the best multi-hit spin combos.
So it vary much does matter, plus synoid heliocor has a bonus initial combo one of only 2 melee with such a distinction the other being fragor prime which is one of the harder to get old gen prime melee.
So synoid heliocor doubles as a budget heavy attack hammer. Check mate.
They did heavily buff the Synoid Heliocor and it is now a worthwhile weapon to use.
The Secura penta is by far my favorite, napalm granades for everyone, but when paired with my girl Mag, game jusk broken
Love that secura lecta was the credit farming meta on release, as it gave about 12x credits on kill, which was quite quickly nerfed
Love the Secura Penta with that mod that turns it into fire
Sancti Castanas was OP since self dmg + Trinity was a thing, its not trash back then
sancti castanas are actually CORE to one of my favorite eidolon hunting builds using ivara, I'd GREATLY miss its removal lol
I remember the Secura lecta was a thing to earn 2m cred under 30 waves of infested defence with a booster tileset and a credit booster. Four squad of people only bringing it and whip the credits off the infested booty. It was so good that the nef anyo index was not relevant anymore.
Im sad that Secura Dual Cestra is "mastery fodder" Because i use it all the time and its so much fun and shreds near everything
its fun not practical
SDC can be useful due to not wasting that much ammo, but the overall damage output is rather limited. If you like rapid fire laser guns, give the Athodai a shot.
honestly you can shred anything thats not steel path with an MK 1 Breton if you really wanted to
Triburous current run using only one very pathetic weapon shows that pretty well
theres no such thing as true MR fodder in warframe
you like it? you play it
im also quite fond of the secura dual cestra and even have a decent riven for it (witch is something this video dosent even get into)
@@BrokenRazorButterfly By Shreds near everything i mean it literally shreds everything, ive used it in steel path and mind u this is without rivens. Such an insanely fun weapon
@@tealeyesdragon2917 thats great
i mainly want these weapons for fasion frame
im going for like syndicate themed loadouts and using warframes that have similarity to syndicate, for example: making ash into red veil cause edgy bois
Vaykor Hek goes hard man.
At least until you get a Kuva Hek
Not sure I agree with the Synoid Gammacor, the thing is an absolute beast when modded right!
I like your videos format.
I rather enjoy the marelok it's rather deadly compared to most secondaries and even some primaries
I adore my suda weapons.
beautifully edited and scripted video man. Keep it up truly!
The Telos Boltor is my favorite and most used weapons, I am a Boltor enthusiast
telos boltor incarnon is a beast. love it
With shattering justice i find that the Hek is almost as strong as the Vaykor Hek. Maybe I'm just using a wrong build? Any good vayjor hek builds?
I miss the old synoid simulor. I get why it was nerfed, but the old one was just so much fun to use.
Just a note, and this is probably outdated at this point, but I use sancti castanas with a navigator ivara built to take down eidolons. It's pretty fun cause once they are set up you just pop the shields and press a button to blow a limb up.
What is the music playing on sancti Magistar?
I remember absolutely destroying everything on the index with the vaykor hek back in the day
Sancti Magistar; "Chivalry is the Resurrection!" *[Bomk]*
Remember when we used to farm credits with the pre-nerf Secura Lecta? Those were the days.
I do but index seems more fun , you either win or fail miserably
Frankly I love my Telos Boltor so much I have a massive CC/CD Riven
It melts everything
But you failed to mention that the Vaykor Hek can't use the Hek-exclusive Scattered Justice and thus doesn't get that sweet +200% multishot
Sorry but *VAYKOR MARELOK* just rocks.
Still one of my most used guns until today, and I play this game like for 5 years. Was my main for all star map and still tank high level content.
And now with Hemorrage it´s just broken as ever. And have a plus: FASHION and fashion is ENDGAME.
I use synoid heliocor. As a heavy attack build. I use the status chance to get almost 150% status so if I'm lucky I can just 1 shot very beefy mods of any faction. And cause I have mild crit I put in berserker and kill herds of enemies without problem with or without heavy attacks
Hi, does the syndicate effect work on your synoid heliocor because mine does not work ?
@@tracytroy6279 it activates every 30 seconds on heavy attack kills. You have to fully scan the type of mob and doesn't work on eximus
@@slothbug4338 so this weapon doesn't produce the "entropy" (magnetic explosion)
@@tracytroy6279 i think it only clones but I'm not sure
@@tracytroy6279 no melee weapon does that,it's literally mentioned in the video
Fun fact: Your pronunciation of "Sydon" is almost certainly correct, as it's name is a play on "Poseidon" (y'know, 'cause it's a trident, and the greek god of water, and.... yeah.) I'm only mentioning this because it took me like 3 years of playing this game before I realized this. Yes, I'm an idiot... but maybe there are others like me out here.
"let's solve a practical problem" the practical problem is the fact that these grineer are still breathing my air
only thing i use regularly is the rakta cernos, now that covert lethality is dead. other wise dark dagger and rakta cernos on ivara was a grt option so u can take out energize .
Ah, Synoid Simulor takes me way back, that thing used to be Mirage's best weapon
i still hear its firing sound in my nightmares x.x that thing was everywhere
@@BrokenRazorButterfly the sound of Somas still rings in my ears from the dark sector wars
@@QuantemDeconstructor why do you have to remind me of that lol
Synoid simulor seems to have a bug about using an old version of viral proc, melting high level enemies with it.
Man i still remember the trinity sancti castanas in index
It’s funny how you the only one that don’t try to show off fashion frames in your videos just stats and the regular looking frame
I am holding out hope for a Kuva Marelok
The undisclosed amount should be 4x multiplier at MR 18.
So they are all trash except for the ballistica, the hek and the dagger? Got it
Synoid simulor is best pair with mirage due to her clones making the gun easier to use and cost less ammo.
tigris prime also has more pellets.
Great video
i dont know if the s lecta's formula changed but it used to scale with MR and was something like 3x base and 0.5 per rank? something like that, really dont remember, anyway it was capable of 1 million credits in half an hour on akkad back in its hayday, so *shrug*
Castanas can be decent for Gyre since they have guaranteed shock procs
I love the castanas. I used to troll people with them when doing void key missions. Id plaster them all over a player and run off to get a radiation proc from a laser, then activate alt fire and one hit them from miles away. Probably not possible anymore due to shield gating :/
Just mod them for toxin damage and you'll be fine
I'm curious about the companion you use to heal yourself, I can't find it in game and currently levelling inaros, would really help with survival thanks
Secura lecta with nekros is good if you are low on credits
From your combat footage, it looks like you need to double your DPI and half your sensitivity.
It will let you aim between your current arcs, but feel like the same speed. Letting you do more precise shots.
And make your footage smoother.
Or you can go further and triple or quadruple DPI with inverse sensitivity.
(If youre still running these settings.)
When I was farming MR I just traded weapons for other weapons.
Because farming syndicate points are kind of broken.
It seems that all of those syndicate primaries and secondaries are MR fodder.
You should do this with the kuva and tenet weapons
Yay!
The lack of slash on the teloce boltace isn't actually that bad, seeing how it has access to sovereign outcast, as well as tonfas having forced slash on heavy attacks. It also groups enemies remarkably well, so it's good for frames that don't have any grouping ability, and benefit from gas damage (hint hint wink wink lavos)
castanas are niece, corpus spy missions, where i find it essentila without invisibilkity
Hi Ken, i bought the synoid heliocor and i notice during gameplay that the syndicate effect is not working, do you know why ?
the melees DO NOT HAVE THE SYNDACTE PROCS BUILT IN
Sancti Castanas and Secura Lecta are top tier weapons lmao
Huh, that Sancti Magistar sounds like a pretty hefty upgrade.. AND it gets life steal? I think I'll give it a go, sounds like people sleep on it.
And then he fell into the void. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
Oh man, i miss the pre-nerf secura lecta and how i made 10 milions credits with it, good time.
its so weird to see people use a whip without sliding...
I hav this question for u. Did u completed all syndicates to r5 0;;0???
What WARFRame us the one where he glided as an arrow?
Ratka dagger: immortal stabby stab
castanas would usable if they removed the limitation of 4 max projectiles laying around the map....multishot sucks on htem because it (rip my multishot riven *sniff*)
1:10 all that air time just to kill a space vacuum cleaner? Bruh
Vaykor Sydon is a monster with a Crit riven in part because it's a swift Polearm with high status that triggers the Aura Growing Power all the time...
I'm MR L2, this is my main melee. Range, speed, comfort, high status and a Crit riven = No fuss & no fidling. Just destroys and Power trigger. Saryn's main jam.
Ah so you need a riven for it to be good
What do u mean by the weapon must be unused?
Never taken into a mission, nor had any upgrades like an orokin catalyst. If you have done anything to it other than put mods on it, then the weapon cannot be traded.
@@TheKengineer ooh so that's how it works.... Thanks!
Glass enemies in your neighborhood
Is ur intro a tf2 reference?
Wth is that bow that’s following the arrow and how do I get it
That's not the bow doing it, that's Ivara's ability "Navigator". Works with almost any projectile, including arrows, thrown weapons, even the semi-auto shot from the Fulmin or Fluctus.
I would liked to see its factions : (
Syndicate Potato. Just fire the underbarrel of the Corinth prime.
(If you understand the joke)
the vaykor sydon useto be amazing for tanks but since they fucked it up its just the regular sydon with extra steps lol its to glitchy to use
What wareframe is he using
Ivara
Personally I don't chuck any weapons, especially not ones as hard to acquire as the syndicate weapons, but yeah. Some of them suck ass right now.
I keep all of them only cause I a riven for each so ye
Lmao your take on the cestra was laughably wrong it’s deadass the best syndicate weapon, the fire rate is already fast enough and with a good build it can stand against level 400+ enemies. The dispo was nerfed because it was so good you could get a ms cd based riven and practically do tri caps with it lmfao.