Riverdale is the WILDEST show I've ever seen
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
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WE WANT PART 2. also really hate how the writers did asexual erasure to jughead's character
yeah that makes me really sad. i think it even could’ve been a good long-term character arc where in the beginning jughead thinks he wants a relationship with betty but comes to realize that’s just not what he wants, or even that he *does* want to be with betty in a non-sexual way (and that can cause some stress in their relationship if the writers really want to cause some drama). i’m sad they just ended up glossing over it though, it would’ve not only made jughead as a character even more interesting than he already was but also been good representation
Jughead's love was meant strictly for burgers.
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't have as much of a problem with it
Jughead's character has had many iterations through decades of comics, and in most Jughead is played as a semi-straight man character (the trope..not the sexuality). His humor is supposed to come from not understanding the relationship drama with Archie and instead doing his own thing. That IS a very asexual, aromantic coded character, but he was never explicitly stated as such.
...until 2015. A new rendition of the Archie story was brought on and with it reimaginings of the characters. It's in this rendition that Jughead was confirmed to be asexual. Which is so cool! I'm ace and I really loved seeing that representation. But it has been a very recent switch to *explicit* asexuality and aromanticism.
Riverdale itself does not tend to worry about close adherence to the comics, Archie himself to an almost shocking degree. For RAS to be pitching a show for years (as was the case with Riverdale), the basis would be in comics in which Jug was not explicitly asexual (as is confirmable in statements from RAS) and in changing the character for this darker, Twin Peaks-esque show, they put him into a romance/sex arc.
All of that to say, decades of writers have thought of Jughead in different ways and iterations, and though Jughead being asexual is my personal favorite, it's not wrong for Riverdale to have had a different interpretation. That aspect of his characterization is loose in the comics, and while it would have been cool for him to be adapted as asexual in the show, I wouldn't personally call it erasure (you can though, totally entitled to that opinion). For me, it's more a bit disappointing that they had a chance to do something cool and didn't, which is especially unfortunate when the show markets itself as progressive and queer, but it's not really erasing a core character trait from Jughead
@@_fake_mu6753 I disagree with this, as I see Jughead’s sexuality as a core character trait. Even if he wasn’t “confirmed” to be ace until 2015, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t until then. I mean any explicit asexual representation was hard to find before then, and Archie comics isn’t gonna be the bastion of progress there. But ace people have been seeing Jughead as representation for much longer than that. So making him a very sexualized character, in a show with mostly sexualized character, does feel like erasure, and just another misstep to add onto the massive Riverdale pile. It’s like giving a character confirmed gay in the comics a girlfriend, that’s more than just a different interpretation
@@RB-lx9gt I think that's a fair reading. His character in the comics does have a lot of asexual and aromantic influences and themes even if the writers at the time didn't particularly know that was what they were doing.
And I do think for much of Jug's history, it wasn't really intentional. Cause like, he got married in 2011 to Ethel Muggs. If they had a solid idea of his sexual and romantic (or truly knew asexuality and aromanticism existed) then that's just a really weird thing to write for your aromantic character. A number of other stories also include him being a straight character that's not dating right now for a variety of reasons, from a childhood romance to being nervous around girls and using food for comfort. So the ace thing was more a really strong headcanon that made a lot of sence than an intended character trait until around 2015.
Mind you, they definitely sexualized his character in Riverdale, which is weird as hell. The Jughead in the show is very different from the Jughead in most of the comics. And you're perfectly valid to feel like it's erasing a part of his identity, and it's understandable people are upset about it. Because it would've been cool to have more ace and aro representation in mainstream media. And Jughead was a slamdunk for that kind of representation.
And I'm also really disappointed that they didn't do anything interesting with that aspect of his character. The show would've been better for it. I would never say someone's wrong for feeling that a character they identify with heavily is being misrepresented. If it's a big enough step away from the comics for someone to be uncomfortable with the show, that's totally understandable and I respect that.
But I also think that Riverdale isn't necessarily in the wrong for how they handled the character. And sometimes conversation surrounding the show overemphasizes how much the writers *should* have known Jug was asexual, and how it's a fault of the show and the writers for not seeing this clearly coded character. I just think there's more grey in the story and more malice and intentionality is placed on writers than there probably was
But also you're entitled to that opinion. I'm an ace person that's fine with how the character was adapted while still identifying with his comics as an ace character. However, there are many ace people that feel differently than I do, and that's perfectly valid as well.
Riverdale definitely didn't do a good job; I think the variance is in how badly we think they did a bad job
**I'm** prepared for part 2, but being familiar with Riverdale I don't know if you're prepared, Stanz
I am unfamiliar, and *very* ill prepared. Let's do this
@@mackenziestorey620 no matter what insane shit you think of, I guarantee Riverdale is on a whole other level.
i need part 2 IMMEDIATELY richelle's commentary makes it 1000x funnier
The only thing I ever heard from Riverdale is that I should not watch it. But making Stanz and Richelle react to it... I think that would be hilarious.
Riverdale is genuinely fantastic if you want objectively batshit content to laugh with.
Stanz and Richelle, we NEED a part 2. Especially a part two with more crazy high school lead ins. I completely forgot how insane this show was to the point I feel a little compelled to rewatch it.
Really fun video, you two have such a great chemistry.
It's like they're married or something. Maybe they should get married Idk.
Riverdale is so unintentionally great I'd watch stanz and Rochelle watch the whole show
A part 2 so Stanz can see how a murder mystery season 1 turns into a series with magic, gangs, and wizards all while Richelle tries to explain it
Stanz you can't just blueball me with an amazing part 1 and not make a part 2
"Is that Dark Betty again?!" "No that's Goblin Betty" in deadpan voice killed me 😂
I had a game I would play with my college roommate called "I watch Riverdale over my roommate's shoulder until I get angry/upset"
would love a part 2. the stanz and richelle breakdown is top tier. make sme feel that i am not crazy of scenes that counter their intent.
This is actually a goated video. Really would like to see this become a full series or something! Y'all have great stage presence
PLEASE I NEED A PART 2 MORE THAN ANYTHING
We absolutely need a part 2
Please make a part 2, this was so fun
I reminisce on the triumphs and defeats, the epic highs and lows of high school football
Your wife is amazingly down with everything you are doing and is incredibly charismatic. You don't see many couples like you and her, and it makes me happy to see such a healthy relationship. And of course we want more.
If we don't get a Part 2 I am going to cry. This is the greatest content ever and we get more Richelle
I neeeed a second part this was a really good watch, anything with you two together is always great :3
we need a part 2
I would love a part 2! This show is so...completely insane doesn't even do it justice, but yes completely insane that you need to get to the end of the video. Another video essay I suggest you checking out is one on the TV show Glee and one on the show Pretty Little Liars. Because both of these shows are just as and sometimes more unhinged than Riverdale. Anyway great excited to see part 2.
Def need a part two. Staniel needs to take youtube outro lessons from now on
PLEASE ep 2 i need to see your reactions to the rest of this insane story.
We need part 2!
i need parts 2,3 &4 NOW!! please :)
Definitely need part 2
Definitely want a part 2
PART 2 PLS!! Love the Stanz and Richelle dynamic
Ayo when is the second video dropping I’ve been here for 20 minutes…
Stanz, I have come to say not only do I want a part 2 but also dare I say a part 3, and part 4 how ever long it takes to finish this 44 minute video. Also finish s** house.
I NEED A PART 2.
Please give us a part 2!!!
I don't want part 2. I need it. Goated content :)
Would love a second part this was great
I desperately need a part 2
God Richelle really is just such a content creator at this point, she's coming for that rising star award, Stanzy
would love a part 2 however i feel the need to add:
when dark betty shows up with the football player, they do inflict violence. they had gotten the football player to handcuff his arms while he was sitting in a hot tub. dark betty comes out in her get up, threatens football player, then she pushes his head underwater for a scary amount of time while veronica stares at her like :O. eventually he either admits to lying or promises to not do it again.
Part 2 would be fire stanzy please do it for the fans
yall know u gotta give the people a part 2
SuperEyePatchWolf is a fantastic creator. Him and Hbomberguy make some of my favorite deep dive video essays.
I want a part 2, possibly even a part 3
That goblin Betty literally made me choke on the water I was drinking. This whole video was so fun!
As a person who is completely caught up with 6 seasons of madness, I wish y'all watched the recent clips for the show where it became unhinged
part 2 would be sick
Hell yes an episode 2 this is some top tier content
I would pay to have an entire Riverdale reaction series
guys when was this streamed, i cant wait for part 2, i want to check out the vod
PART 2 please! Love all the Richelle content!
I would enjoy an episode 2
I left this show after season 2, looked back then saw all the crazy shit and realized coke is crazy.
we need a part 2! this video doesn't cover season 6 which is completely batshit insane
when reacting to a video, please include the video in the description so we can go give the original creator some love aswell. :)
Please do another one, this was hilarious
We always need more Better Stanz on the channel
My only 'proper' experience with Riverdale was binging season 4 with my roommates in a single day during quarantine. I've never felt as mentally dead as I felt after that.
If we get a part 2 or not, we just want more of Richelle
Hi bringing the lords word from a place where we literally throw a festival for maple syrup every year. This show is actually real life.
YES PLEASE PART TWO, but more pausing please
WE WANT PART 2 YES !!
Please papa, can we have a part 2?
WE WANT PART 2 ❤
Part 2 for sure bud, hell yeah
I NEED an episode 2
YEaaaaah part 2 babyyy
6 seasons and a movie!!
Yes.
Richelle explaining things is awesome
2:30 love that the editors featured me saying ew to Cole Sprouse and Richelle saying “get out of here” to me LOLLL 🥲🥲
I want more richelle and stanz content, they are so fucking funny together
GIVE US PART 2!!!
I kinda just want Stanz and Richelle to just watch the entire riverdale series on stream now
Riverdale in a nutshell (from someone who hasn't seen it, but seen a lot about it)
First Season: a murder is covered up by a group pretending to be a demon cult to hide they're just a weird serial killer group.
Last Season: an actual cult of demons are trying to kill anyone who doesn't have superpowers.
My favourite part of Riverdale is they replaced Jughead's paper crown with a slightly crown shaped beanie. Because it wasn't plausible enough for him to wear a paper crown in this show, apparently.
I am so upset because I'm a dumbass who thought Stanz would be reacting to the actual show 😭
as a riverdale aficionado (i'm not proud of it), i would LOVE a part 2!
I need a part 2
God riverdale feels like one of those shows that just had such a fun base, but ultimately goes too fucking weird in an incomprehensible way.
Would love part 2!
that story about N.O. was already on youtube once but no idea how long agl
best natty outro i've ever laid my virgin eyes on
Eagerly waiting for part 2
Oh yes please part 2!
I worked on this show for a few seasons. I gotta say that every scene I paid a bit of attention to was incredibly embarrassing to be around for..
Also never watched a single episode.
EPISODE 2 PLEASE MR. RACHELLE AND MRS. STANIEL
We want part 2
Def want a part 2
PART 2 PLEASE
i need part 2
Everyone wants part 2 cause I never saw the show and this will be the only way I will do so
we want episode 2
*even more respectfully than the first time* What a queen. That's all I'll say.
Bring on part 2
WE WANT PART 2
Fun fact about riverdale, it’s based off my hometown high school in Massachusetts.
i want a part 2
I 100% want an episode 2 peepaw
Part 2 is a must
I'm ready for part 2
I want an episode 2
Part two please thank you
YES part 2!!
EPISDOE 2 PLEASE CAANTHS AND STAANZ :) I WILL TRY MY BEST TO LIKE AND COMMENT AGAIN!