Are Chelsea the new Arsenal?
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Mikel Arteta endured an uncomfortable time at the start of his Arsenal managerial career. But it was all part of a project, that eventually led them to the top of the Premier League.
Chelsea are embarking on a similar cultural shift. But how did Arsenal do it? And what can Chelsea learn from their London rivals?
Jon Mackenzie explains. Craig Silcock illustrates.
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Right, here's the new, non-VR version - have a good week everyone.
Thanks a lot!
Someone in comments is asking for VR video . please make his week good otherwise ur words are just words no real 'good week everyone'
I'd like the VR version back please ! xD
Was it a glitch or deliberate?
Was so cool though (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
the big problem is that arsenal appointed arteta when the club was already down pretty bad. thus arteta was able to more easily get away with 2 back to back 8th finishes. where as chelsea was just coming off the back of a recent champions league victory. Theres no way the fans are going to be okay with allowing the club to dip into mediocrity for two whole seasons. Potter simply doesnt have the luxury with the fans of this club. and with the money spent. potters time is really ticking low
the season we won the CL we had qualified for the CL on the last GW, almost the same last season. and the start of this season was catastrophic. cup competions aside we were not good for years, it's not like were fighting City and Liverpool
As a fan of any team besides maybe Real Madrid not wanting to wait seems unreasonable
@@sabingashagaza1274 hey we often fight them up until christmas!
@@iamjimb yeah, but can't praise cause we always finish 15+ pts behind them
Agreed. Another problem Chelsea have is that it doesn't appear as though Potter is in complete control/cohesion with regards to transfers. Just going off what he has said in the press, it seems as though a lot of decisions are being made above him, whereas at Arsenal it's clear Edu and Arteta work in harmony.
Video idea: How do teams always seem to start with a win after the manager is sacked and a new one is appointed. Is that a myth or a fact, would love for tifo to explore it.
Sheesh. I always realise that too. Odds of new manager winning their first gives are quite high
Statistically the new manager bounce is a thing. There is actually an uptick in form usually with a new manager
Player power usually, the players wanted the old manager gone so now they give their best for the new one
I'd assume it has something to do with opponents being unaware of the new manager's gameplan and thus being unable to effectively organise against it.
@@phryg2035 I disagree. Everyone on God's green earth knew Dyche would play a physical 4-4-2 but he still managed to beat Arsenal
Chelsea just recently hired Gilbert Enoka to help with that last step. Now I doubt anyone will recognize this name, but he is a mental skills coach from New Zealand, who worked with the All Blacks (NZ Rugby union team) over a time in which they were absolutely dominating the sport, winning two World cups & having a perfect season. He has been brought in to help develop a winning culture and work on the mental side of this team being fit together
The process itself is completely different the only thing that is similar and comparable is the youth transfer policy. Arsenal completely got rid of most of the senior players inherited by Arteta, while in the process lowering the wage bill, they then build a new squad foundation based solely on recruiting young players to make up bulk of the squad. That included securing the futures of the young players already at the club, the likes of Saka, Smith Rowe, Balogun and Martinelli.
Chelsea's process is different apart from the recruitment policy. Also, their time frame is shorter, they spend 600m in 2 windows and appointed an experience manager. Their squad rebuild is basically done, a few more additions and departures in the next window and they have overhauled the entire squad within 3 windows.
Yes, there will be fire sale in summer. And salary of young players is less than all senior players. That’s why Chelsea is hesitant to match mount’s demand of high salary. And for first time board is ready to stick with Manager regardless of poor form.
You forget how many Chelsea academy players being put into first team , is not even close to any pl team . Main objective for Chelsea was youth. Some work some don't . Arsenal top cause city Chelsea in transitional period while Liverpool bad form , get real kid ,we all know where arsenal will finish next season
@@rockymaniaster don't F ING act like arsenal don't have the money 🤑💰 when highest tickets in world football, bigger stadium 🏟️ and double worth of Chelsea, things is your owner never cared , stop blaming other clubs success for your delusions downhill
@@casteltheghettomonk4392 dude what? I’m a Chelsea fan 😄
@@casteltheghettomonk4392 arsenal this season have had one of the best starts to a season in the history of the pl, 50 points w 19 games even if all the teams were on form they wouldn’t top that so give credit where it’s due and dry your eyes
He also won the FA cup which helped a lot
Love how they left that part out
Thank you for fixing that
What did they fix?
Some Chelsea supporter went into a rage earlier because of the VR version 😂
VR?
“…the Chelsea owner has committed to a long term process at the clu-“
That definitely aged well .
Another problem that Arteta faced at the start of his tenure at Arsenal were also financial. I.e. non-performing high-waged old player, which Arteta offloaded one by one, replacing them with young, fresh talent (with the exception of Partey and Xhaka). But Chelsea are in a completely different position and are seemingly taking a different direction in the high-wages matter. Would that be negligible or would it be their downfall, honestly I don't know...
Every player chelsea signed this window is under 100k a week… even enzo and mudryk
Also the contracts of the new players are performance based. So if they don’t perform, they’re not soaking up huge wages. I’m pretty sure there’s also clauses that mean just about everyone’s wages drop if they’re not in the champions league. Boehly hasn’t been stupid at all with the signings
They are already trying to push away high earners and only giving out performance based contracts.
As an Arsenal fan I also want to point out that, because we replaced players over time we had extensive scouting. Arteta scouted Partey and Gabriel after clinching the FA Cup, then scouted Ben White Tomiyasu and Ramsdale after another underwhelming season, then finally Zinchenko and Jesus. Might’ve missed some players but I’ve listed the main players that severely changed the way we play.
Essentially; Chelsea have rushed and splashed on an assortment of signings without doing any scouting or attempting to build a style of play. That’s why they look so haphazard even after spending so much. This is why Arsenal were so good after only spending the odd 30 million on a handful of players and Chelsea are dreadful after spending hundreds of millions on luxury signings.
TLDR; Slow and steady wins the race
Felix and mudryk to Chelsea means arsenal still small club mentality same thing happened with higuain Suarez rest is history
Not mentioning the unity within the arsenal fan base that Mikel has brought us huge, his use of young and academy players that the feels resonate with and can get behind us a massive reason a lot of arsenal fans have patience and are now United togther
Naa cuz a lot of Arsenal fans didn't want to trust the process
I mean they all wanted him gone at the end of last season!
Not really, last season almost everyone wanted Mikel gone.
@@akamiguelsanchez9985 most didnt. It was sadly the deluded clowns who wanted him gone after last season that spoke the loudest.
Ultimately last season was a season of progress. Most trusted Arteta
@Tok Yo Who wants to wait ask Any fan they will say no. Dont talk for us you not us 🙂thanks yours sincerely top of the league.
What people fail to realise is that the new owners spent 600m so that process or transitional period doesn't take too long like it did for arsenal. Arteta won the fa cup in his first half season beating city in the semis. Potter has lost to city in the first rounds of both domestic cup competitions. Plus from the outside looking in, arteta seems to have a bigger personality than potter. Potter better get his head in it coz of he's sacked, it'll be on him. Patience has to be earned not just given. There's still no style of play visible under potter. Arteta and even sarri had visible ideas, which aren't there under potter. Doing well in a mid table team doesn't necessarily translate to being a good manager at a big club
All they've done is speed run to the stage we were at with a lot of unhappy players wanting game time, except all those players are newly signed, on high wages and there's gonna be 10+ left out as opposed to three or four causing issues for arsenal
@@ray21231 I think he will be given until the summer where the clearout will occur. Then the season after that he is up for grabs
Nah, Potter is fine. Chelsea kept 3 clean sheets and it just a matter of time before the striker start firing some goals in and get those win streaks. With Malo Gusto and Nkunku coming in next season, Chelsea will be fire 🔥. Nobody predict Arteta and Arsenal where they are today and their fans are skeptical about him as well. You only talk about his personality and his visible play style after Arsenal have performed well deep into the season. That was a safe statement that anybody can make
agreed.
Arteta inherited a horrible squad whereas the squad Potter had inherited won a champions a season before and had lost only 2 players from the starting line up, 1 being a consistent starter in Rudiger and the other being more a squad player through inconsistencies in Werner.
Arsenal also have not been able to spend money on transfers as easily as Chelsea.
"patience has to be earned not just given" it needs to be given to be earned. You show patience, they repay you.
Can you upload a VR version please?
Funny
Honestly, the Arsenal points are good but seem a little shallow and missing some of why things translated so well. For one, Arteta has a strength of personality and has been front and center with the messaging and a coherent strategy even when people didn’t necessarily understand the tactical evolution on the field because results weren’t following. It was clear and coherent all of the time. He constantly talked about unity and reaching the fans. He was a figurehead in this transition and Edu was implementing this vision with a sense of ruthlessness. Chelsea aren’t doing any of the same things. It’s like they are following the strategy in name only. They’ve followed the old strategy of throw money at the problem and appointed a coach that people are high on but hasn’t shown a lot of adeptness as a manager. During Arteta’s process, they gave him more power because you could see what was happening around the training ground and journalists were constantly talking about how there’s a sense that something is different. You’re not hearing those same things about Chelsea. They’re not cutting dead weight. They don’t know what team to play. They don’t understand how to put the ball in the back of the net. Etc. It’s just problem after problem after problem. And they are all the same problems they had previously, except they got rid of a good coach in Tuchel for a lesser coach in Potter.
chelsea are doing it better, and more efficiently
Ohhh thank god for the upload that after trying to watch this in VR mode earlier 😂
The presentations in this channel are always on point.
Well done 👍
another difference to note too, is that Arteta, albeit finishing 8th for the first 2 seasons, he did win an FA cup on the first and shows some visible progress (but definitely unfinished) throughout the 2nd season. I guess that's what made the fans (some of them) still willing to see what the team could bring the next season. And as we know, Arsenal been progressing in a positive manner since.
I'm not sure I really agree that it's quite the same process. It looks like Arsenal recruited in a much more sensible manner in regards to the player profiles they required. Yes, of course Arsenal have spent money, but it's not exactly the same as Chelsea's mindblowingly high spending, coupled with the feeling of it being a "throw money on talent and see what sticks"-tactic.
That isn't how we spend money.
@@infamouscfc793 that’s how it’s always been. That’s why Salah and Debruyne are @ LFC & City.
@@rudymurillo9334 What does that have to do with anything? Lmao
@@infamouscfc793 that you throw money at talent and see what’s happens. Y’all couldn’t bring out the best of 2 world class talents so you moved them on like they’re weren’t good enough.
@@rudymurillo9334 nonsense kdb wanted to play and was no where near ready than Lampard at that time and he handed in his transfer request. Salah was weak and took 2 more club stints to develop. Chelsea went on to win the league that s3ason. You're Stalin like tendency to rewrite history to suit your biased narrative is disturbing
Much better.
I never realised how important visuals are with some content.
Some videos simply don't work as podcasts, or audio only.
Finally it's fixed!😀
The thing with Potter is that at the moment I'm failing to see and identity, a style of play. With Arteta you could see that there was a style of play he wanted to implement, at the time the personnel available were either not suited, not good enough, or too old to take it on completely (old dog new tricks scenario), but you could see there was something there. Even when facing City and Chelsea in that FA cup run he very visibly changed the way of playing to counter the then better playing teams. But CFC's squad is basically new, we'll see with time if he's the man for their supposed "process".
Arsenal picked the right manager, that's the big question with Chelsea?
Exactly. I don't think Potter is the right guy ngl
@@vickjr98 Give it 2 years and we will see....
@@NostalgiNorden So your team buys all superstars to wait another 2 yrs lol 😂😂
He wasn't the "right manager" until last season? How can you judge Arteta's 3rd season with Potter's 1st? In terms of experience, Potter has the upper hand over Arteta. The recency bias is ridiculous.
2 years ago nobody thought arteta is right manager tho
All the backroom changes are exciting, but I doubt that Potter is the right manager to bring Chelsea's massive legacy to the next level
Exactly what was said of Arteta, without the history of success that Potter has.
@@bdpat100 Im sure Potter will challenge for top 4 next season with the outrageous talent they have purchased but when it comes to winning a league he aint that guy. Arsenal, City and now United have elite managers and elite systems of play, Liverpool did as well but they need a takeover to reinvigorate the team. The problem with Potter is he has a history of changing systems. Also, you need to be a shark to manage Chelsea. Hes not that.
@@alzer6467 no one considered Arteta as an Elite manager before this season..
@@alzer6467 U might be right about him not being fit for chelsea but remember there’s a whole different system at chelsea rn so he might just be the right man … i think these guys hired the best footballing brains 🧠 and are thinking long term success
and sustained success
"with the entire scouting department being remodeled" the new model being see who other teams are interested in and spend more to sign them.
Top players are few so big teams will be competing most times for the same players like Felix, Mudryk & Nkunku
Although Badashile, Santos, Madueke were unknown novel signings by Chelsea's board
@@akachiedoggy5711 lmao @ 'unknown'
Felix and mudryk to Chelsea means arsenal still small club mentality same thing happened with higuain Suarez rest is history
Your art director really is top drawer and one of your greatest strengths. Perhaps the greatest differentiator in the journo game.
We’ve just returned to our normal culture at fan and club level. And Arteta has created a culture of growth and development at player and staff level. But arteta was instrumental in both. He reminds me of my previous boss that went on to get headhunted by Google as a team leader at their headquarters. A new style of leadership that supports people instead of just telling them what to do.
Thank you
Despite the similarities between the two approaches identified, Chelsea's process is not akin to Arsenal's - at least from a fundamental level. Arsenal utilized a more organic approach to transforming their organization while Todd Boehly's system in revitalizing Chelsea is more akin to the method used in Major League Baseball. Case study? The LA Dodgers.
This comment should be pinned....arsenal rebuilt the team slowly and also allowed arteta to implement his style of play and develop chemistry amongs the players
Potter’s first 10 games unbeaten when he had most players are fit , Chelsea this season is in the big transitions but also hits with enormous of injuries.
A lot of this can also be compared to man utd. They're undergoing a lot of changes on and off the pitch and with possible new ownership there will be more of it. On the pitch you can see the changes but the background stuff will take more time.
Potter has big potential to become great manager in future, he has his own style on managing tim. Chelsea just need to give him maybe two or three seasons more to see the progress
Saying Potter is bad is not knowing him or football. If they dont give him time they will regret.
I believe Graham Potter will be a success at Chelsea, one year ago many fans rated him above Tuchel as manager when Brighton tactically outclassed Chelsea at the Bridge and in the other game last season
He'll definitely come good but it depends on if Chelsea aren't ruthless
Bro I don’t think anyone rated him above tuchel
Lmao who rates Potter over Tuchel?!🤣 I'm a Chelsea fan and i met no one who did that when we had Tuchel as manager. He was always the top 3 manager alongside Pep and Klopp for real Chelsea fans
Tuchel above Potter? That's a stretch, isn't it? Tuchel inherits Lampard's mess and turn them into European champion. While jury's still out for Potter, I don't think he can replicate what Thomas did
This is also going on in Barcelona, happened to liverpool too but chelsea is not know for restructuring, they rather just buy good players. Restructuring take 2-3 years and the way chelsea are buying players, looks like they only want one season for restructuring:the chelsea way
I think individual coaching and improvement was inexplicably forgotten by a lot of clubs and a lot of managers. We can see know the benefits of addressing individual performances, as exemplified by Arteta and Ten Hag.
Dont mention them in the same breath.
So weird I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago.. They’re definitely doing it the easy way now. They have Arsenal’s blueprint, and they’re copying it as well as they can.
Well this aged well
I don’t think the processes are all that similar. Yes, Chelsea are trying to bring down the average age of their squad like we did, but that’s about it. At Arsenal it felt like supporters knew and accepted that there would be a long process to get back to competing, so the manager had time. Chelsea’s approach seems more like trying to make sure the manager doesn’t have any excuse to not win immediately. So one dispersed the pressure amongst different stakeholders and one put it squarely on one person’s shoulders.
Also there’s clearly a different level of risk assumed by Chelsea in their contract amortization strategy.
Chelsea moved a lot of people on and spent big lol Potter has till November tops! Badiashile, Mudryk and Enzo look like good signings, Silva is Silva, James should not be rushed back and the rest either need a better coach/find form or be moved on.
To answer the question no... but they're trying to be.
What Arsenal did, is that they slowly built a team around long term and Academy stars who LOVE the club such as Xhaka, Holding, Saka, Nketiah, ESR and Martinelli. These are players who know the history of Arsenal and the values. Then they brought in stars who were hungry and had been undervalued, such as Odegaard, Ramsdale, Zinchenko and Gabirel J. Then they sprinkled in some underrated talent like Partey, Gabriel, White, Kiwior, Trossard, and Vieira. Then they included players from the Unai era with passion like Saliba and Tierney, whilst shuffling out players that didn't play for the badge. What Chelsea did? They just threw money at anyone who was called a "Young talent" and slapped them with long-term deals.
Mason Mount and Reece James came through Chelsea academy
@@edwardkelly3280 You realise you listed 2 academy players. Don’t say Gallagher cause he’ll be gone. Then the other player barring azpi (who’s also on his way out) all haven’t been at the club for longer than 3-4 years
Brilliant video
1 MIN SILENCE FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GOT THE CHANCE TO WATCH THE VR EDITION
I was literally trying to find this vid 30 mins ago
This version is much better than the previous one.
Arsenal uses Stat DNA for scouting, Chelsea uses Sky Sports.
The disrespect to Arsenal
The big problem at Chelsea is the short termism thinking of the fans and local media . Abramovich created a culture of sacking people if they aren't continually fighting for titles , it's hard to move from that to a more measured long term way of thinking. Currently Potter is suffering from the same expectations, where he's hired to build a long term project but the fans and media are judging him on past parameters of win the title now
We need to give potter the Time man. He desperately needs preseason when most injuries should be done, he can trim the squad and get to implement his system. Let's see where we at by oct
Boy, this video aged like fine milk. Arsenal and Chelsea serve as polar opposite examples of how to do reinvention well vs how to do it poorly.
When your club owner is coming into the dressing room at half time to shout at the players, you know something is TERRIBLY wrong at Chelsea.
Great video! Serious potential for cheslea to follow arsenals format, could we get a video in detail of the sanctions Manchester City could face after their breaches with the premier league referring to the UEFA report and previous etihad sponsor deal
The biggest difference I see is, Arsenal started really spending a lot more (without selling a lot) after they found the manager they wanted to back. I don't think Potter is that for Chelsea, but they're already spending half a billion in a year without improving that much. Looks like they're just making an environment of a lack of minutes for a lot of overpaid players. And they may be selling a lot in the Summer, but with the bs they pulled with Ziyech. I don't know if they really know what they want right now. Just spending money and hoping it covers the problems
Because they have bought mostly young players for the future and all their existing old central mids are injured.
Finally!!!! Someone found out about this!!!
1st season
- won FA CUP
- introduced playing from the back
- Finished 8th in EPL
2nd Season
- won Community Shield
- enhanced playing from the back
- dealt with absence of playmaker in first half due to politic (Ozil) by introducing ESR
-Finished 8th in EPL
3rd Season
-introduced donut playstyle
-Finished 5th in EPL
4th season
- enhanced donut playstyle
- Champion of EPL
Yeah keep believing that politics got özil sacked
Finally, I’ve lived to the day I hear that Chelsea has to learn Arsenal to be better 😅
Arteta was given true autonomy by his board, Potter has been flooded with expensive players from the start.
4:43 "by bringing in Graham Potter along with his backroom staff from Brighton, the Chelsea owner has committed the club to a long-term process of improvement" that aged well...
All good but Chelsea fans are Impatient af
fans supported during the transfer ban and even back werner till the end...
@@rohitrmohanty but they want Potter sacked right stack now tho
Chelsea have been the most successful English club of the last 20 years, so the thought of a trophyless season is shocking
0:57 I might be nitpicking, but as a Chelsea fan I've to mention Todd Boehly is not a sole owner as implied in the video. He's part of the consortium which consists of many individuals. Behdad Eghbali for example is equally important as Todd, as evidenced in the Mudryk deal.
The ownership is tied up with Clearlake Capital Group, but also has wealthy individual investor like Hansjörg Wyss. Mark Walter, the CEO of Guggenheim Partners is also on the board.
It's more than one person, and I guess the operations would be run in a democratic way within the board. Todd had major role of course and is the face of the operation, but it isn't a single man mission.
Please make a video analysing Liverpool issues this season
Video idea : what is wrong with AC Milan
What has Arsenal won in the past ten years? This is a typical Chelsea slump we’ve seen it before.
The short answer is NO, they aren't. It's easy to talk now after the sacking of Potter, but Chelsea's owner's approach is to throw money and try to buy the best individuals, not actually analysing who may or not work best for the team. There's no natural cohesion with the youth academy, the fans also seem to expect too much right now, unlike us, Arsenal fans. And probably Arteta is the most talented coach to break through lately.
Chelsea is the new Man United. Reckless spending with no real direction reminds me a lot of Ed Woodward's era Man United.
Who said they dont have direction just because rivals fans dont understand it.
@@frankreynolds9930 Potter in
@@destianpatrianagara1119 🗿
This hasn't aged well
Damn, Chelsea are fully committed to the Arsenal model... so much so they just brought in Aubameyang so they can ditch him later on and help improve team morale 😂
Nope, Chelsea is not the new Arsenal, it's the old Newcastle.
Bizarre comparison arsenal declined due to selling they're star players and not investing enough or properly where chelsea are throwing everything at being successful for better or worse
WHERES THE MORECAMBE VIDEO
You knew what you were doing with that title
YESSIRRRR, we should be grateful that the club is giving the manager trust and confidence. Graham Potter completely transformed Brighton and they are now a very solid team. Chelsea will need less time than Brighton.
It’s the Chelsea coaching staff I’d be worried about. I mean having Bruno as a first team coach…?
What do people mean when they say Chelsea will be back? They are back. 10th place. This is Chelsea before the financial doping.
To the question itself, it's possible...
I just can't see their figurative 'rebuild' or 'fall from grace' being allowed to last as long, much like Potter's tenure for that matter.
There is no comparison between Chelsea and Arsenal today and there never was before. Right now with spending half a billion you propose that Chelsea is rebuilding their squad in one transfer window whereas Arsenal has spent nearly that amount in the last four years. Even if Chelsea rebuilds and goes on to winning trophies soon or later than Arsenal there is NO parallel between the two clubs.
Do a video on why teams are so good after the manager gets sacked
Lots of clubs need this - Chelsea are already very successful in recent years - clubs like everton need a clear plan - spurs and villa are two others who don’t look like winning a trophy
I don't know if it's my OCD, but it always ticks me off when the in-video title is a little different from the youtube one.
Video: "Are Chelsea the next Arsenal?"
Title: "Are Chelsea the new Arsenal?"
I think another problem with Chelsea is that they have 2 blokes who are both technical directors but in different aspects so there's a chance they might clash. I think it's generally accepted only 1 person can wield power. Arsenal tried it with Mislintat, Edu, and Sanielhi and it failed.
More like more ideas combining. Plus this video missed out on other big names who handles recruitment and talents. There is like 5 total people to oversea transfers now.
@@frankreynolds9930 Right but doesn't that mean if you can only sign 1 or 2 and you have 5 suggestions it becomes difficult?
@@therealdonut45 They do pros and cons. They all have different connections worldwide and are used to manage different stature of clubs. All combined would be more valuable.
"one of the hardest things to do for football UA-camrs " is talk about Chelsea 💙🤨💙💙💙
Lol the title is a hottake of the year.
Potter had a much better team than Arteta did when he started. He's also invested over 300m in his first window. Something Arteta didn't have. They're not really all that comparable other than they're both 'projects'.
Potter has had Reece , Chilwel , Kante , Mendy out. Also many of the new acquisitions were out too like Fofana. Arteta didn't have to deal with so many injuries.
That's what he said in the beginning.
The "team" Potter undertook didn't exist because most players were in the medical room due to injury. With a fully fit squad, Chelsea went 8 games unbeaten and outclassed Milan home and away.
@@ag1879 so it did and does exist. Every club has to deal with injuries. It doesn’t mean their injured players don’t exist.
Moyes moment
Are Chelsea the next Arsenal ?
How can that even be a comparison.
Arsenal last played in the CL in 2015-16, winning a few FA cups since then. Chelsea have won the CL, the Premier league and numerous cups since then, qualifying for the Champions league on numerous occasions.
Arsenal's rebuild has been done over years, a slow and frustrating process I'd imagine for fans. Chelsea are having a awful season but literally have transfered the squad "overnight". So to say are we the next Arsenal... when we are likely be be back winning trophies within a couple of years it's ridiculous
Stop crying 😂😭 The last time Arsenal played UCL was 2017
Let me remind you between 1906-2004 Chelsea won 1 league that is the worst record of a so called big team let me remind you that is 98 years just 1 league
And even after 2003 your total trophies total 24 Arsenal has 47 so next time respect your elders
Chelsea can never be bigger than Arsenal just Accept reality
@@rajibaba4907 Arsenal went crashing 10-2 over two legs that season 😂 your last PL title was 2003/04, the club has been floating around doing nothing with years. How many times has Arsenal won the CL? That's a tournament for the elite.
@@rajibaba4907 Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal, in the modern era we have had significant success. Arsenal have done nothing except float around.
If Klopp, Arteta and Potter are a "Process" manager what are the other type of managers called like Pep, Tuchel, Mourinho, Conte?
Seems like Chelsea are closer to combination period of Man United post Fergie era then Arsenal arteta, bringing in upcoming manager who somewhat established but unproven yet on elite level(moyes) and desperately pay more then actual market value on their transfer target instead of looking for alternative( LVG until Ole even ETH ).
Definitely a very risky approach and lead to horrible cycle of toxic culture if results were poor, in fighting between manager,players and board ... seem to settle down bit now Eric Ten Hag is in charge hopefully carry on well into his 2nd and future run season.
Why does Tifo's illustrator always make Marina Granovskaia look so bad?
As I see it, Chelsea are abiding their usual pattern of severely under performing after winning a title. They rest on their laurels then expensively try to catch up to their rivals.
This season reminds me of 15/16 when the Blues finished 10th as defending champions. I hope João Félix scores many more goals than Falcao did.
Legends will know this was reposted
No. Arteta did not have £600m to spend in his first year, nor did he inherit a squad of such quality as Chelsea's.
I don't think Potter is as good as Arteta tactically. I think Man United will be the new Arsenal, because of Ten Hag and his staffs
And more importantly the culture change.
Any chance of going a bit more in depth on what you mean by culture change and what exactly the culture change was that was implemented at Arsenal?
I'm sorry to burst the balloon, but have Arsenal actually won anything yet? This celebration of their approach seems premature.
They are undoubtedly miles better.
Their style of play is fluid, effective and hard to stop. But we've seen teams with new/ tweaked approaches before look unbeatable only for the analysts to unlock the weakness sometime in the second half of the season.
Losing a 5 point lead even with a game in hand is possible if they hit a run of bad results, we should at least wait until after the City game coming up before talking like this.
Chelsea, with the money that's being spent, I would assume aren't looking to just improve, but to consistently win the 2 (maybe 3) big trophies for an English team: PL, CL (and FA Cup depending on your view of it).
I'm not sure that they'll be comparing themselves to pretenders to the throne, or that Arsenal are going to achieve what they, so far, deserve to
Arteta already won FA cup in his first season
Arteta might be inexperienced, but he is a lot better than most coaches in top flight leagues. He is not only responsible for the tactic on the pitch, but also the culture within the club.
Could you do a VR version please? 🤣
If you mean that by giving their new manager time and trust they can expect great results in a season or two, I believe yes they could be. But will they have the patience.
Always said that, Chelsea are doing now like what arsenal did with arteta
That's more like it
Usually, when you compare Arsenal to Chelsea, its a compliment to Arsenal. But this was a great video.
It takes 10+ years to pull an Arsonal it's really a title no other team can take
what edu and vinau have done is incredible. arsenal's entire front line costed 40m$ . bird brain boehly splurging cash mindlessly and aimlessly is not remotely similar to arsenal's model
Dude has only spent 200 since he came, the other 400 will be paid in 8 yrs. that's 50 per session, lower than that of Everton.Boehly is just too intelligent.
Trust me, Chelsea will totally dominate football for a decade
@@akachiedoggy5711 chelshit are finish3d
@@akachiedoggy5711 yeah FFP incoming .when those players become Deadwood and don't have resale value and they have to spend again . There is a reason clubs don't give super long contracts
If it wasn't for Putin's war and the government's sanctions we'd need none of that! The title for this season was always gonna be up for grabs for both Liverpool and Man City's aging squad and outgoings. Add a World Cup mid-season and a five subs rule, who'd guess things might go different, right?! This Arsenal team is dazzling don't get me wrong, but they're not the champions yet, and even if they win the title who is to say they will maintain this level or be a success in Europe. We'd had European cups, domestic finals and constant top 4 finishes in that period, we're to do the same for what? An unfinished title charge and no Champions League football?
Did you say scouting
This video aged nicely
no. Potter isn't simply cut out to manage a team like Chelsea but that's life. some of us aren't cut out to perform certain tasks on th highest level. he is a good manager but not Chelsea quality.