Salvaging and Reusing Useful Parts from Dishwashers + EXPERIMENTS

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  • @endutubecensorship
    @endutubecensorship 4 роки тому +56

    The "aqua-stop" could be hooked up to a foot pad switch from a sewing machine, this would allow washing of hands in a shop sink without getting dirt/grease on the tap

  • @aguretsi
    @aguretsi 6 років тому +14

    Not being a Englishman myself - I dare to say this gentleman's eloquence is astonishing! It's beautiful and highly instructive. Thanks.

  • @tymz-r-achangin
    @tymz-r-achangin 2 місяці тому

    Easily got my thumbs up! Was no stupid music, narrated by a real person and not ai, provided a lot ot interesting detail, and just an overall done-to-earth video. Thanks for sharing

  • @MPeyton0006
    @MPeyton0006 6 років тому +10

    I've studied and read every piece of information I can find about how to electronics and the working of components but I could never begin to explain things as well as you nor do I have the understanding of the inner workings of things like yourself! Good work

  • @FredFlintstone21
    @FredFlintstone21 5 років тому +9

    This video is of exceptional quality loaded with great ideas to repurpose an appliance that would normally be junk. Thanks so much for tickling my brain with new and exciting ideas!👍👍

  • @worstuserever
    @worstuserever 5 років тому +1

    This is a very clear and appropriately detailed guide to an appliance's components and their potential uses; excellent work. I just replaced my dishwasher and found your channel while preparing to salvage parts from the old one. Looking forward to exploring the rest of your content. Thank you!

  • @johnsanchez8029
    @johnsanchez8029 3 роки тому +1

    So much fun! I’m glad I saved all the parts from all of the dishwashers I disassembled. Good video 👌👍

  • @campbellmorrison8540
    @campbellmorrison8540 5 років тому +4

    Excellent program. Im amazed how clean that dishwasher was

  • @dragonblee1
    @dragonblee1 5 років тому +3

    Such knowledge should not go unrewarded, good luck to you and thank you.

  • @foyjamez
    @foyjamez 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks. I see machines on the curb all the time, and think about recycling them for $, but hadn't thought about making controllers for the pumps, and then using those for hydroponics until now.
    In fact, the cabinets could be used for reservoirs, and there's already sensors. I don't know exactly what I want to do, but you're helping prime my creativity.

  • @superdave54811
    @superdave54811 5 років тому +44

    The Aquastop could be used in conjunction with a footswitch in a shop where you need to wash hands or parts and can keep hands free for other purpose.

    • @L337f33t
      @L337f33t 4 роки тому +1

      I like this idea, mostly because any timer or automatic watering device is already commercially available. The only benefit to building it yourself is that you could get it for free.

  • @PatrykDarasz
    @PatrykDarasz 9 років тому +1

    Ich freu mich schon sehr auf deine nächsten Videos, denn du bist wahrscheinlich die erste Person auf UA-cam, die Schweißinverter so richtig erklärt!
    Also immer weiter so!

  • @Dustin_the_wind
    @Dustin_the_wind 5 місяців тому

    I imagine it might get annoying, hearing many people say how awesome you are. But you are a person I'd really appreciate living near, and even better be family.
    But alas, I made far too many miscalculations.

  • @GlueTubber
    @GlueTubber 6 років тому

    it's because of videos like this that my wife sometimes refers to me as the junkman... :) so many ideas, so little time. Bravo sir, you are an inspiration!

  • @Components-qu3zs
    @Components-qu3zs 9 років тому +1

    Excellent video. I do a weekly dumpster dive which my wife dreads, but the parts are awesome. Always useful. Thanks for the interesting knowledge - as always!

  • @targetglen
    @targetglen 5 років тому +3

    Your English is excellent and puts most native speakers to shame. It makes your ideas so much more intelligible for us monoglot English speakers.

  • @N6MKC
    @N6MKC 9 років тому +6

    Excellent repurposing job! Love the idea of the stainless work surface on top. It's a tremendously satisfying feeling to be able to make something useful out of something useless.

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph 5 років тому +3

    That Aquastop hose was pretty interesting. All the dishwashers in New Zealand I have dealt with have the water solenoid mounted internally and a simple pressure hose connects it to the supply. However recently in the hardware store I saw a product that was described as an Aquastop hose for a washing machine or dishwasher. It was the same principle - the main feed hose inside another one in case the internal one bursts, but it was just a hose with 3/4" threaded couplers on the ends. One thing to remember with these appliance solenoids though is they are not designed for continuous duty, so are only suitable for applications where it's just a brief supply of water to refill a container etc

  • @ElectronFunCom
    @ElectronFunCom 9 років тому +16

    I guess the pump at the end of the video could be used to make a fountain. Great video, thanks for sharing!

  • @deangreenhough3479
    @deangreenhough3479 9 років тому +5

    Another great video, well thought out and well presented.
    One of my favourite channels to watch and love the accent.

  • @unshanks
    @unshanks 9 років тому +7

    Great stuff! I love seeing the uses you've come up with for the salvaged parts. Gives one all kinds of ideas.

  • @1969elder
    @1969elder 6 років тому +1

    I know this is an old video but seeing the bowl and pump assembly you constructed in action gave me an idea for you. You could use it with a (plastic safe) solution or solvent and build a very efficient parts washer. Would be great if you could find an old “Texas style” barbecue/smoker, seal it well, add a screen or mesh at the bottom of of the tube where your coals to keep the sludge below where your parts stay, a shelf and filter system for the inlet. You could add a stud wife or something to the exhaust hose so you could position it above the part so it could clean by continuing to run over the item. And close the lid to keep noise and dimension down. Basically a parts washer lol. Sorry for the ramble but you are very inspiring. Thank you sir.

  • @illusivec
    @illusivec 9 років тому +100

    You are awesome dude. Keep up the good work.

  • @dusterdude238
    @dusterdude238 7 років тому +4

    very interesting tear-down and parts demo!
    those Pumps in the Miele dishwashers really are quiet.

  • @waterrocketengeneer
    @waterrocketengeneer 9 років тому +1

    At home we have pretty much the exact same dishwasher, the colour of the front plastic panel is different, ours has three wire trays but the button layout and everything else is exactly the same. It still runs like a champ!

  • @TelmoMonteiro
    @TelmoMonteiro 9 років тому

    Very nice! I like all the re-purposing of components and the creation of new electronics like you did with the micro-controller.

  • @dwinsemius
    @dwinsemius 4 роки тому +1

    I'm smiling as I imagine my wife's reaction to suggesting that I keep the old dishwasher. Don't get me wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed this session.

  • @davidledoux1736
    @davidledoux1736 4 роки тому

    This is so inspiring! I'm going to search out your other appliance repurposing videos. Thank you!

  • @ianxr650r
    @ianxr650r Рік тому

    Merry Christmas, my good man. I also love using or reusing things I come across in my travels. People don't understand why I love playing with junk. But I don't want new things from the shops. I want to make new things from what I find.

  • @CJWarlock
    @CJWarlock 9 років тому +2

    Awesome, interesting and educative video as always. Thanx for all your effort. Keep on the good work. :) I've already played a bit with solenoid valve. In Poland it's most commonly called an "electrovalve". I like to disassemble equipment so such videos are like a time of relax and enjoyment to me. :) I appreciate your precise attitude to present different topics in your videos. The idea, the view of the object at hand and your narration - everything just fits perfectly. Congratulations on such quality of your videos.

  • @HenryTheOunce
    @HenryTheOunce 5 років тому +1

    I totally understand absolutely all of the technical bits.

  • @hotlavatube
    @hotlavatube 5 років тому +7

    A dishwasher frame could be used for a sandblasting or spray painting cage. It also reminds me of a powder coating oven, but that'd require substantial modifications.

    • @vladnickul
      @vladnickul 5 років тому +2

      I have seen them transform even in egg incubators :) but for that a fridge is much better as it has insulation and more space

  • @carloscamacholobo
    @carloscamacholobo 9 років тому +10

    I've had that same model for 20 years. Those parts are worth quite a bit

  • @johng5295
    @johng5295 3 роки тому

    Thanks in a million. Great content. Awesome. Very well explained. I couldn't find this explanation--simply put anywhere else. Great teachers are hard to find. Grade: A++💥

  • @raspouten
    @raspouten 8 років тому +4

    you are a great inventor !!
    we need more of these clever ideas .

    • @dianedong1062
      @dianedong1062 4 роки тому

      Yeah, too much good stuff gets thrown into landfills.

  • @beakittelscherz5419
    @beakittelscherz5419 2 роки тому

    Moin. Ich muss mal was anmerken. Dein Englisch und - Wortschatz ist wirklich sehr sehr gut. Macht richtig Laune. Nebenbei die richtigen englischen Begriffe lernen die zu den Maschinen gehören!
    Exellent as always! Thanks for showing your work and explaining your thought process along. We'll done😎👍

  • @mickbetts2176
    @mickbetts2176 4 роки тому

    Yet another fantastic video. My no.1 youtube channel, well done. And your English is exceptional! Top man

  • @rpe3715
    @rpe3715 9 років тому

    Excellent video, as usual! I've played with NTC thermistors a bit. They are highly non-linear in their response, as you noted. To convert from resistance (or voltage from your voltage divider) to temperature, often look-up tables are used in the microcontroller. These look-up table values can be found experimentally, or derived mathematically from three data points, using the Steinhart-Hart equation.

  • @neptunian5686
    @neptunian5686 9 років тому

    The cabinet idea is brilliant! I'll try to make a tool box out of the small photocopier I picked up. Cheers!

  • @scottritchie6943
    @scottritchie6943 4 роки тому +1

    Great to see recycling of equipment.

  • @grantadamson3478
    @grantadamson3478 5 років тому +1

    Apart from the word "series" your English is superb.

    • @stoojinator
      @stoojinator 5 років тому +1

      I think this is a tough one for Germans. "Great Scott" does this too as a notable example.

  • @realityprinting2961
    @realityprinting2961 5 років тому

    Excellent format.
    Don't change a thing.

  • @harounben342
    @harounben342 3 роки тому

    You are an ingenious genius engineer genie

  • @Falney
    @Falney 8 років тому +24

    Every time I see you doing a long straight cut with a Jigsaw, I get the urge to donate a circular saw to you.

    • @chriswatts1701
      @chriswatts1701 4 роки тому +8

      He will eventually find one to repair

  • @JT-un7dc
    @JT-un7dc 5 років тому +1

    Just found your channel & I'm hooked. Cheers for all your efforts.

  • @AwninGod
    @AwninGod 5 років тому +18

    the metal frame would make a good smoker box

  • @rdmevX
    @rdmevX 9 років тому

    I had a thought during the video for gaining a water tight seal on the pump. Since you are using heat to help form the plastic around the fittings maybe you can line the plastic with hot glue as the buffer. I recall that this technique is already used by some heat shrink tubing manufacturers to achieve water tight outdoor electrical insulation solutions. Thanks for the videos!

  • @za_ozero
    @za_ozero 9 років тому

    thanks for interesting channel. I am watching it for over the year and like it a lot

  • @MattSiegel
    @MattSiegel 9 років тому +40

    Wow, I love this format! It is so empowering :D
    also, "outlandish diameters" hahahaha XD

    • @rjordans
      @rjordans 5 років тому +5

      I guess that 'outlandish' can be translated into 'non-metric' here

    • @m3chanist
      @m3chanist 5 років тому +4

      @@rjordans Haha exactly, outlanders from the new lands, using old world units. A confused lot.

    • @some_haqr
      @some_haqr 4 роки тому +3

      I highly rate this comment lol

  • @PBS-nm1uu
    @PBS-nm1uu 6 років тому

    this is a great presentation very good understanding of the board please do more on circuit board reading thanks.

  • @jeremydenn6988
    @jeremydenn6988 5 років тому +3

    Your great keep it up I love you work I wish I was as smart as you are I live in Minnesota

  • @kolinevans9127
    @kolinevans9127 9 років тому +2

    this is definitely one of my favorite channels - bravo. : D

  • @JOEZEP54
    @JOEZEP54 5 років тому

    Great video. Although some of what you present with the electronics is a level of understanding a bit above mine I enjoy watching & learning. If more people had the mindset that we & others that watch your channel & mine & many other similar channels our land fills would be a fraction of what they are today.
    Stay well, Joe Z

  • @oloha2
    @oloha2 9 років тому +15

    I didn't know a dish washer has such useful components inside! ت

  • @Drottninggatan2017
    @Drottninggatan2017 5 років тому +1

    The aqua stop could be connected to the hot water line in the shower. A fun project.

  • @dianedong1062
    @dianedong1062 4 роки тому

    I think the maker of this video is Supercool! I hate throwing anything in the landfill; to me it's all a "resource".

  • @PaulHollandWheels
    @PaulHollandWheels 5 років тому

    Thank you . I have been waiting for this video about 2 years. The wife wants me to make her a fountain from my junk pile that's what she calls my parts shead.

  • @zaiohellgren9266
    @zaiohellgren9266 2 роки тому

    this was super nice, looking forward to fiding a old dishwasher so i can build an interogation system :P

  • @davidhoward5586
    @davidhoward5586 4 роки тому

    Excellent information and video upload. Thank you.

  • @makerofthingsunique
    @makerofthingsunique 9 років тому

    very interesting video with lots of useful ideas on how-to use the parts.

  • @johnnyb8629
    @johnnyb8629 5 років тому +1

    Those german dishwashers are awesome, I would use those parts to make a aquaponics system. It could be used to control an eb and flow system. To get the absolute benefits from growing food in aquaponics is achieved through automation. I've wanted to convert a dishwasher to a parts washer and that SS tub would be perfect as long as the pump could stand up to the more viscous fluid .

  • @drgibblesgaming7884
    @drgibblesgaming7884 7 років тому

    Wow, packed with info start to finish. Great vid!

  • @jhnseda6673
    @jhnseda6673 9 років тому +7

    Nice update thank you for sharing! Is there a pressure limit to what the aqua stop can handle? I was amazed at how quiet the pump was. It would make a great aquaponics pump for indoor use. I will keep an eye out for trashed dish washers now. Cheers

    • @gafaff
      @gafaff 9 років тому +2

      +jhn seda the "Aqua Stop" or solenoid valve as it'd be more commonly called, would need to be rated for mains pressure, so probably around 10bar (~140psi).

    • @iainwilliams6510
      @iainwilliams6510 5 років тому +1

      Exactly what I did with the pump from our last dishwasher (Bosch). Now circulates water from a 330 gallon pond in a greenhouse to the 2 GrowBeds on top (made from the angle iron frames of 2 old queen size beds and some stainless sheet). Decommissioned at the moment because the greenhouse needs work but has worked great for nearly 3 years.

  • @samuelfellows6923
    @samuelfellows6923 5 років тому

    I was curious to the purpose of the fan in that dishwasher, the Integrated water softener - when I was a child (in our old kitchen), if there was a problem with the dishwasher we would pull it out of the kitchen cabinets and test it (looking for leaks, etc) and I would look at the side of it where the said water softener is fully exposed - transparent plastic water unit; water channels, main chamber of softener media, siphon tubes, etc. I found it fascinating to watch this when the dishwasher was filling.

  • @drewhodge3820
    @drewhodge3820 9 років тому +1

    I was wondering if that water heater could be used in an aquaponics system to heat the water?

    • @OtherDalfite
      @OtherDalfite 7 років тому

      andrew hodgkinson | It very much could! Could be useful if you are running aquaponics in a low temperature environment

  • @stefantrethan
    @stefantrethan 9 років тому

    I use an Aquastop like that to dispense water into the bread maker. This way I only need to put in the dry ingredients and it goes to work while I sleep.
    There were actually two mechanisms inside the Aquastop, that magnetic valve and some kind of pressure activated valve after it. I just cut it in half to remove that second mechanism.

  • @Altruistic-Viking
    @Altruistic-Viking 2 роки тому

    Regarding pumps, the inlet is usually 3 times larger than the outlet to minimize cavitation on the impeller

  • @DKH83
    @DKH83 4 роки тому

    Wonderful video. I wish I have the time and understanding to recycle my miele which I have to dump. I felt the pain of wastage. If the aqua stop is small enough I can use it refill my coffee machine.

  • @michaelrobertson8795
    @michaelrobertson8795 4 роки тому

    I thought I was the only one that did all that, LOL long as it's good might as well keep using the stuff👍👍👍✌⚡

  • @KX36
    @KX36 9 років тому +18

    "aquastop" alarm clock ;-)

  • @robertbain6792
    @robertbain6792 3 роки тому

    Love your channel!

  • @samTollefson
    @samTollefson 4 роки тому +1

    That stainless housing would make a dandy meat smoker.

  • @SybilDefense
    @SybilDefense 2 роки тому

    Trying to make a hot water heater egg incubator, with auto water lever adjustment. The plan is to use the water heater element (which needs to be submerged) to heat the water in the stainless base. A bent metal cover could control the humidity. Worse case scenario I screw on two porcelain light bases and attach a circulation fan. Use with incubator controller XM-18 etc to run at ideal temp and rH with PID egg roller trays. Watch at Tully River Quail.

  • @arielorland4910
    @arielorland4910 7 років тому

    I was wondering how applicable the water circulating pump would be for a closed loop hydroponic system. Would love your input on perhaps on how to incorporate these salvaged parts to a horticultural project.

  • @chebhou
    @chebhou 9 років тому +3

    can you do a video about your workbench setup like power supply, MCU boards, power tools .. and stuff you usually use in the videos

  • @scorpnz4433
    @scorpnz4433 3 роки тому

    Dishwashers make great stackable storage once the inner crap is gone & anything else i can get scrap money from. You'd love my place as only a fellow horder would understand with all the treasures i have stored. I use dishwashers for storing lpg gas bottles outside. I mainly do scrap metaling by picking up what people illegally dump i.e washing machines,fridges,freezers,microwaves,bikes. Tools don't normally get dumped. That said they do get thrown out at local transfer stations (rubbish that gets sorted into categories of metals & other classes for recycling) The stuff that gets dumped is astounding ,even new stuff. It's a bloody sacrilege

  • @callmeishmael7452
    @callmeishmael7452 4 роки тому +1

    Everything looks great. Why did the machine fail?

  • @locksbolbalnaring1157
    @locksbolbalnaring1157 8 років тому +2

    Loving your work, keep it coming :-)

  • @tradyarbow
    @tradyarbow 6 років тому

    Question what is chance to use water heater on hot shower silly line? What can be used to set up this ? Also water silly with flow switch hook please
    Thank you.

  • @thomasblackwell9507
    @thomasblackwell9507 5 років тому +1

    You would definitely survive in a Mad Max type of world!

  • @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121
    @hulkgqnissanpatrol6121 5 років тому +1

    I've been using my circulation pump for a few weeks now set up on a Wi-Fi timer of 30m On 30m Off and I find it strange you didn't just make a simple rubber coupling and just clamp it to a 20mm and 25mm pipe made from the rubber and clamps already there? Anyways great video. Thank you heaps.
    I should note the motors also have a thermal shutoff chip? inside them (shown on the diagrams) I was hoping you would mention and demo that because I'm a lil worried the thermal switch is going to activate to many times through the Australian summer heat

  • @tomalcolm
    @tomalcolm 9 років тому

    Confession. There is something wrong with every single one of my kitchen appliances. I have a technician coming tomorrow, but secretly I'm hoping they're doomed so that I can take them all apart and play with the pieces. Thank you for feeding my curiosity.

  • @ytrew9717
    @ytrew9717 4 роки тому

    did you finally manage to waterproof sealed the motor pump (16:19) if so, how?

  • @giantchickencreature
    @giantchickencreature 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Very informative.
    :)

  • @CihanCali
    @CihanCali 5 років тому +1

    what an immaculate englisch you speak mein Herr! :-D Respekt!

  • @ZiadSourany
    @ZiadSourany 7 років тому

    Hi, I have an old BEKO automatic washing machine, it's control panel is damaged, I'm looking to reuse some parts of it. It happens that I leave my house for few weeks so I need to create a small indoor irrigation system. I'm wondering if you can help me with this by reusing some BEKO parts. The idea is to connect a container to water source by BEKO inlet with a way to open the valve when the tank is empty and close the valve when the tank is full. I'm wondering if the chamber pressure and pressure switch will be helpful without the control panel. I know that I may find a similar system in the market. But the idea is to recycling. And if there is a better way than this I will be open to learn it. Thank you

  • @218philip
    @218philip 4 роки тому

    Would restricting the flow on the pump overloading the motor cause problems?

  • @Ogma3bandcamp
    @Ogma3bandcamp 9 років тому

    Another awsome video. Thanks.

  • @waitemc
    @waitemc 5 років тому

    That washer is a beast.

  • @harounben342
    @harounben342 3 роки тому

    I don't know where to get these parts or funds to do projects like this, it's not common to find people using washing machines, let alone dishwashers and dryers... It's a childhood dreams that has to come true! Just keep me inspired!

  • @skinnymalink72
    @skinnymalink72 9 років тому

    Do you think the heater would be suitable for pasteurising fruit juice?

    • @ThePostApocalypticInventor
      @ThePostApocalypticInventor  9 років тому +1

      Hey there! Sorry, but I'm not sure. I haven't found a way to connect the flow heater to standard tubing yet and therefore wasn't able to test it. The flow heater in my house has a six times higher power rating. I think that a fluid that starts at room temperature would have to be recirculated through the flow heater several times before reaching the temperature required. I'm also quiet sure that water would have to be pumped through it directly after heating the juice. Sugary remains oft the juice on the inside walls oft the heater would certainly become a problem. But these are just guesses. Experiments are required to answer the question properly.

    • @skinnymalink72
      @skinnymalink72 9 років тому

      Unfortunately my apple processing didn't go too well so I never even got close to following up this lead but I now realise myself that apple is probably too sticky to put down a thin metal heated tube, glass would be better

  • @dwuk1986
    @dwuk1986 9 років тому

    thanks for sharing pal..
    loving your stuff.

  • @jvon3885
    @jvon3885 4 роки тому

    Damnit man, I had the opportunity to get one a few houses down but I've already over stocked my property my wife would have been pissed. But I really need a few of these parts.

  • @rominhawk3949
    @rominhawk3949 6 років тому

    Hi TPAI, Thanks for all your great videos. I just wondered if that dishwasher with all the shiny surfaces could have served as a solar oven? Thank you.

  • @sebastianlopespereira1696
    @sebastianlopespereira1696 5 років тому

    float switch and hose can be used nicely for an auto filling dog water bowl... awsome for bigger dogs

    • @sebastianlopespereira1696
      @sebastianlopespereira1696 5 років тому

      connect the Valve with a CHeap Sonoff Switch and boom irrigation system done without needing to program any thing and wifi accessable

  • @rochrich1223
    @rochrich1223 6 років тому +1

    It's a pity that there isn't more German junk by the sides of my roads.
    The dishwasher part I like to find most in the American junk I get is
    a combination fan and heater. Combined with some PVC work and
    some electrical safety bits will make an effective glove/boot dryer.

  • @selador11
    @selador11 5 років тому

    Where you used a heat gun on the plastic, then inserted threaded fittings, but haven't gotten a perfect seal yet. I don't think you need waterproof glue or other sealant. I think you just need to thread the fitting back into the plastic. Then put a hose clamp on the plastic.

  • @paulolobo837
    @paulolobo837 9 років тому

    Wonderfull work ! Thanks for sharing !

  • @lordmmx1303
    @lordmmx1303 9 років тому +2

    so in basic thinking. you can use that heater to heat water for washing hands for example, right?

    • @ThePostApocalypticInventor
      @ThePostApocalypticInventor  9 років тому +6

      Yes. There is a possibility.

    • @ChMuhammadImran
      @ChMuhammadImran 9 років тому +1

      +The Post Apocalyptic Inventor How many watts that heater consumes ?

    • @shana_dmr
      @shana_dmr 8 років тому +3

      I don't want to burst your bubble mr Muhammad If you want to have an usable stream of running water without using some kind of reservoir you gotta have something like 4-5 kW heater (in Europe they usually require pwo phase connection), there are small 2-3 kW running water heaters but the flow rate is pathetic and in my opinion only reason to have them is when you have a public object where law requires you to supply hot water to wash hands in the toilet or something like that :)

  • @crocellian2972
    @crocellian2972 9 років тому +1

    My friend. We don't know each other. But ...
    What I don't understand and am pondering is this: Why are the best and the brightest in the EU turning away from a path where they can make the biggest impact on our world?
    Your values and basic gut level stuff (I have forgotten the German term, you know what I mean) is to work hard with what you have to make the best result. That is the American corporate system as well. Do not be insulted. My first job out of graduate school was with that Persil company. I know of what I write.
    How do we tunnel into these corporate monsters and remind them of their DNA? I would like you to run a large corporation and bring them back to their roots. I used to think the rot was our US problem alone. Then came VW.
    Please think of taking your gifts straight into the face of the beast. Tannhuser (misspelling intended) and all of that. You have rare talent and our world needs it. As an old man I speak only for your kindern and my grand kindern.