Zach from ZMF visits the Passion for Sound Podcast
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2023
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Dear ZMF I just want to make sure that you know just how hugely respected and loved Lachlan and his channel is. He does so much for us audio enthusiasts all while sleep deprived as a parent too. Great podcast Brothers- George and Karyn from Vancouver Canada
Lachlan is the man!
Thanks GCJ! Nice to know it's valuable to people. And thanks to Zach for your time and amazing products.
Zack is such a cool and straight forward dude
Agree! 🙂
Wow, congratulations on expanding your manufacturing capacity Zach.
Hearing him describe the Atrium Closed and owning an Eikon, I think I may have to collect one at some point. I do love the sub-bass emphasis and sense of rumble on the Eikon though they can be a bit stuffy at times. Really wish Zach all the success in the world, I'm happy to own two of his headphones and really adore what he does with those bio cellulose drivers.
I'm looking forward to testing the AtCs properly soon. They certainly look the part and they're super comfy
@@PassionforSound His new headband/headstraps are excellent. My Eikon is from 2017 and I replaced it with the new crescent band and suede headstrap which made a huge difference. I'm likely going to send it in to have him swap the rods from the friction sliders to the notched rods so I can have more literal headroom. Owning the Auteur Classic it's very balanced, it's the most inoffensive headphone I've heard. It won't be for folks looking for "excitement" or "fun" though it'll depend on what your definition of those things are. I find it a very soothing listen, vocals are very enjoyable. I'm a hip-hop/grunge head for anyone reading this but I spent days listening to crooners like Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, Bing Crosby, and Perry Como on the Auteur Classic. Sustained vocal tones are lovely.
Well explained about the AuC, Ninja. I completely agree. I compared it with the 109 Pro for a patron the other day and the 109 Pro was more impressive, but I'd still reach for the AuC for extended editing, general use sessions. They're a brilliant can for their balanced tonality.
@@dasninjastixI have the Atrium and love it. But, I was curious if you have tried the Verite Closed?
@@asplmn I haven't no, a good friend of mine has a pair and while he and I don't have the same tastes, we are able to agree on how things we have in common sound (just differ on whether or not that works for us). From his description of the Verite Closed I'm pretty sure I'd like it not love it. I would ideally like to hear both at a CanJam, but were I to blind purchase another closed from ZMF it'd likely be an AC over the VC. However.. very happy with the Eikon and actually have mine in at ZMF so they can swap it from the old rods to the new ones.
Zach, is the man :)
Thanks for you two getting together for this illuminating chat!
Especially appreciate some of the design process discussion this round
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The tease for this video is special - “Crinacle ptsd” priceless!
Crinacle I’m sure has created ptsd for a lot of mfg!
I’m a fan of irreverence, and Crinacle is a maestro, it’s totl entertainment.
To hear Zach’s reasoning for Verite tuning in this video - that it helped the sense or experience of depth - I get the calculation now, thanks!
And more on the Auteur Classic tuning goals too - insightful!
The Verite is still the detail king in ZMF lineup to my ears. The sax in kind of blue was more of a 3D instrument. One of my system ideals is to be able to hear almost what version of an instrument is playing - the Verite pushes that direction beautifully.
To me the new Auteur Classic is like a baby Atrium.
Sitting and listening to the Atrium Open, Caldera, and Verite - all Blackwoods; they are all so good in their own rights!
ZMF Zach - bowing in your general direction
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Thanks Lachlan✨✨✨
So glad you enjoyed it (and ZMF headphones) so much!
I absolutely LOVE my Auteur Classics. They've really become my go-to headphones since I got them last year. Like you mentioned, they're both very honest and highly musical, with really solid bass extension as well. Like you, I use them when I want to know what a recording "actually" sounds like, but then go to the Aeolus when I want some fun and funk in my sound.
Nice combo to have the two options on hand. I still need to try the Aeolus. 🎧
@@PassionforSound The Aeolus is definitely worth a try! Just make sure you find a pair of the OG Aeolus lambskin pads to try with it if you get a pair.
Thanks for the tip!
So I heard the atrium closed. It is awesome if you like bass and don't mind distorted guitars. It's definitely a "fun" headphone but the sound staging doesn't let the bass get too muddy.
It's been growing on me lately and is another ZMF headphone that really sings with tube amps. Review coming soon... 🙂
I hope you do more interviews like this, it was fascinating! The Caldera is sounding like a headphone to try.
I think by "wonky" Crinacle actually meant "It doesn't sound lifeless and sterile."
It has seemed that way to me. I went back and listened to the Vérités after this discussion and don't hear any wonkiness at all
@@PassionforSound Yea, feel bad for Zach on this, as you can tell he is really about enjoying music and not seeking neutrality for the sake of neutrality.
Absolutely. I tried an experiment and EQ'ed the Calderas to a dead flat response last night and they lost all of their magic. No thanks!
@@PassionforSound yea, I know some people just want more and more. Some channels complain the headphones are not neutral enough, lol...
this is just so nice !!! got no bigger compliment i wish i was there, virtually
We might do some live episodes (for the podcast, I mean, not Zach necessarily)
Honestly I prefer something that sounds unique at the price point that ZMF is selling their headphones at. Something that sounds unique with character but still sound great, which is what ZMF specializes at in my opinion. I think even cheap headphone could sound great with the Crinacle standard neutral graph.
However to make something that sound unique, for example with elevated midbass but still sounds pleasing and not too muddy is something not that easy to pull off, and I think ZMF really pull that off with their headphones.
Nice to see and hear more about the new entry option from zmf. Looks too nice to be an entry option, but I'll gladly accept it being more affordable than the other models.
Really want a desktop or gaming headphones option from zmf, and that new one looks like a really nice option. I had previously thought it was going to be strictly Harmon tuned but I guess Zach couldn't help himself adding zmf house sound touches here and there which has me more excited about it now as opposed to what I remember hearing previously on it. Really wanna try that one out. Hope it comes out soon. Thanks for making this video!
Glad you liked the vid! I'm excited to try the new one too!
Great chat, Lachlan you are my favourite audio reviewer, you explain sound so eloquently and clearly and if you review a product I own it is always spot on. I don't buy anything until I've checked to see if you reviewed it. As for ZMF, well I own three now - Atrium, Atticus and Aeolus. I absolutely loved many of my headphones and have actually sold many of them since getting my first ZMF as nothing sounds so good to my ear. Im a classic rock, new rock fan who loves guitar and a great female vocalist. ZMF are just fantastic for those. While I hated to part with many of my favourite cans because ZMF rendered them obsolete I did use the cash from those sales to build a vintage system centered around a1978 Yamaha CR-820 paired with some Focal speakers, a turntable, EQ, Dual C808 cassette and even an Akai 8 track just for kicks. Keep up the great work guys
So glad you're enjoying the content, WD! Sounds like a great collection and complementary 2-channel setup.
We're in the same boat. I have the Atrium and also used to own the Atticus & Aeolus.
I more recently acquired the ultra-rare Yamaha C-1 & NS-1200 speakers (like the Atrium of vintage speakers for due to Spruce & cotton drivers.)
Your CR-820 is a solid piece. Enjoy it!
Thank goodness that my sonic sensibilities line up with Zach’s!
While I find Crinacle entertaining, I’ve found, over the years, that I definitely have some issues with his preferences and sometimes his reviewing style. In any case, he’s an iem guy. He’s not a headphone guy.
With all due respect for Crin, it's like you said at the end. Following his preferences on headphones is kind of like following preferences on love of a guy who stands on the sidewalk and whistles at the passing by women who impress him :D
Haha. Love that analogy, PG!
@@Peace_Guard He is one of many reviewers that is on the neutral [sterile] train, and anything colored and fun is rarely given any props by said reviewers. I suspect it has to do with the genres they are listening to, to a certain extent, but that is hard to judge because so few of them reveal what they listen to on a regular basis.
Agreed, my hearing preferences dont align with what crin prefers
I can't even find a genre where the VO sounds wonky 🤷♂️
Great chat!
I'm incredibly excited for the collaboration amp ZMF is doing with JDS Labs. A big fan of both companies and an adjustable impedance amp that synergizes well with ZMF cans with the quality both companies are known for? I cant wait!
Glad you liked the chat!
I'll have to see if I can get the JDS collab in for review
Did I miss something? Where did you hear about that?
That's a good point. I hadn't heard about it either so just took the comment as true.
@@PassionforSound ZMF had a prototype of the collab amp for demo at Canjam in NYC in Feb, and also it can be seen in this livestream: ua-cam.com/users/live5nop3s4NzCI?feature=share&t=2593
@@jamesbittle9789 ZMF had a prototype of the collab amp for demo at Canjam in NYC in Feb, and also it can be seen in this livestream: ua-cam.com/users/live5nop3s4NzCI?feature=share&t=2593
Some name ideas include: Agora, Apollo, or Acropolis.
These are consistent with the some other names in the line up. They have a Greek or mythological connection. And, the words start with an "A", like several other models.
Agora means the public square, which seems fitting for an entry level model.
Apollo is the god of music.
The Acroplolis in Athens was a music and performing arts center.
Nice ideas, Heywood!
Cool stuff I’ll have to look into the P4S podcast content. I do lust after the caldera while the closed atrium probably would be the logical choice for my use case demand for being back in office. I wonder if the isolation is decent for an office environment so I don’t get sound bleed to disturb my neighbors.
I'll be able to let you know soon in the AtC review 🙂
Hope you like the podcast. We're still optimising the quality of the recordings so be patient with us 🙂
Damn, it's making me wonder if I should wait for this portable one vs the focal radiance lol
Ooh. That's a tough one!
The ZMF Mercury sounds like a good name for the lightest, smallest, most portable little shiny object.
Ooh! I like that. Not sure if it fits the regular naming convention, but it's also a different type of headphone...
Hello Lachlan,
When can we expect the Caldera and Holo Bliss reviews? :)
Holo Bliss is nowhere right now, Caldera is in production for a late April release
Zac... we are waiting ZMF pads for Stax L series... those from factory, especially with L300, are really crazy too thin... btw, I have those for sennheiser HD6 and suggest everybody to buy them... are a HUGE step above those from factory
I need to try the ZMF HD6 pads. Thanks for the reminder!
My experience with ZMF pads is hit and miss. However I could say that I like HD 6XX + ZMF Suede better than Sennheiser stock pads
The auteur classic is honestly his best tuned headphone IMO
what genres do you like on it?
@@chungang7037 pretty much everything, vocal focused stuff, acoustic, rock, metal, hip hop, pop, it does it all really well.
@@bpenda94 That is what scares me, I think this podcast just cost me a lot of money. ☺
Haha. Sorry about your wallet.
I do think the Auteur Classic is excellent, but I'd still take the Atrium or Caldera over it. The Caldera is closer in tuning to the Auteur Classic (Atrium more different), but neither is quite as neutral and therefore uncoloured as the Auteur Classic
@@PassionforSound Indeed! I enjoyed the Meze Empyrean and Peacock a lot for my acoustic music, which ZMF do you think I should demo if given the chance?
None of this matters...! How does Fiona Apple sound on these headphones? Best, D.
Fiona apple on the caldera sounds insane, can confirm
Yes, they'll be great with Fiona!
POSSIBLE NAMES FOR "ZMF" PORTABLE HEADPHONES: 1) THE FALCONS, 2) THE JAGUARS, 3) THE OCELOTS, or 4) THE CHEETAHS. I'm thinking of something BEAUTIFUL, SLEEK, FAST and POWERFUL, that hunts for LIVE MUSIC. Since portable headphones are commonly used on planes, a bird name may fit best, like THE FALCONS. PEREGRINE FALCONS can go into a 200MPH head dive!!! Then there is the MILLENIUM FALCON SPACECRAFT from STAR WARS. The LOGO would be a FALCON flying through music (sound waves). Another possible cool name, would be THE SIRENS (from MYTHOLOGY), who would lure sailors to their death (on the ROCKS), because of their ETHEREAL, HYPNOTIC, EUPHONIC, IRRESISTIBLE and BEAUTIFUL singing!!! ------- AS A SIDE-NOTE: I think that the 50CM POLYCARBONATE DRIVERS, from the SIVGA 021 "ROBINS" headphones holds some potential for upgrading to a higher level. I think SIVGA copied "ZMF" with: INSTRUMENT-GRADE ROSEWOOD CUPS, with 2 top ports and some kind of INTERNAL DAMPING. SIVGA also copied the FOCAL CLEAR MG (which I also own) headband. MY CURRENT HEADPHONE SYSTEM: PS Audio Digital Link III w. Cullen Circuits Stage Four Mod (220V) DAC, ROTEL RCD-1072 CD PLAYER (w. "HDCD" PROCESSOR) used as TRANSPORT, a SCHIIT Audio MAGNI 3 HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER, LAT International DI-30 DIGITAL CABLE (with SILVER/COPPER ALLOY CONDUCTORS and KLE Innovations "HARMONY" RCA connectors), ANALYSIS PLUS (Flushing, MI) Solo Crystal Oval Interconnects, 220V AUDIOQUEST NRG Series POWER CORD, Laspada Audio APOLLO I Power Cable with Red Copper Contacts (Non-corroding COPPER) and a Regvolt 500W VOLTAGE CONVERTER REGULATOR and STABILIZER (with LED READOUTS of INCOMING AND OUTGOING VOLTAGES, as used by MILITARIES, GOVERNMENTS and CORPORATIONS internationally). My DAC and TRANSPORT both utilize the BURR-BROWN and CIRCUS LOGIC chip sets. Very ANALOG and TUBISH sounding. The SIVGA 021 "ROBIN" headphones really UP-SCALED on my specific headphone system. They have the following SONIC SIGNATURES: SUPER DEEP (INFRA-SOUND LEVEL --- 8-10 HZ???), FAST and TIGHT BASS that vibrates my entire body (like a sub-woofer), a FAST, EXTREMELY DYNAMIC AND "PUNCHY" SUB-BASS, a CLEAN and CLEAR MIDRANGE, a close to ELECTROSTATIC-like in SPEED and TRANSIENTS TREBLE, SCARY TRANSIENTS and DYNAMICS from a DEAD QUITE BACKGROUND (my body muscles twitch and my eyes blink, like when you experience a loud-noise like a gunfire or a firecracker), a HUGE SOUNDSTAGE (with a lot of air) HOLOGRAPHIC, LASER-SHARP IMAGING (my eyes move around as real images are surrounding me), ACCURATE TIMBRE and REALISTIC VOICES with MICRO-DETAILING and "EMOTIONS". Yet, it is SMOOTH enough to not be IRRITATING and I can hear quite well after listening to me at a high-enough level. They sound like LIVE MUSIC (and not HIFI) and they sound so EUPHONIC and SEDUCTIVE, that I can't stop listening to them. They are a ON-STAGE and/or FRONT-ROW headphone MOSTLY, but they can sound set-back in a concert hall, if sent the proper audiophile signal. I'm at a loss of words for how they UP-SCALED and do things I haven't heard any other headphones do. The point is, the 50MM POLYCARBONATE DRIVER may be good to try out, as a new driver material. POLYCARBONATE is a POLYMER-CHAIN MOLECULE made with CARBON ATOMS (like GRAPHENE is CARBON ATOMS). POLYCARBONATE is used to make BULLET-PROOF PLASTIC, ASTRONAUT HELMETS and STREET LAMP COVERS. If this driver sounds incredible in a cheap pair of $150 headphones, imagine how it could sound in a HIGH-END pair of HEADPHONES??? I'd definitely name these headphones: "THE SIRENS"!!! I've been an AUDIOPHILE, since the 1970's!!! I emphasize keywords (like in SPEED-READING), because written word enters the brain faster.
THE PANTHERS would be another possible portable "ZMF" headphones name. That's all I have, for now.
Thanks! Duel-y noted!
this video confirms, once again, that you are much better "live" than when you are reading text from the screen with those, frankly AWFUL slow downs at the end of each sentence
It's a tough one, Martjin. If I don't work with notes, people complain that I missed certain details.
I'm currently playing with an idea that might help with that though...
"Cringeacal" = "0"