If you want to get an idea of how important the design of professional mastering room is, search for Warren Huart's interview with Bob Ludwig. The speakers in his room sit on massive concrete slabs under the floor.
This guy is a wizard and is the reason some of your favorite artist is big. I have the upmost respect for joe I love his work fr fr very underrated . Don’t sleep tho this guy knows the Sonics and is very capable
No.. a mixing engineer adding some sparkle is NOT the reason BIG artists are BIG. Its a combination of THEIR TALENT, songwriter TALENT, producer TALENT and where the MARKET is currently. Anyone can make a mix that brings out the key elements and doesnt ruin the song - its not rocket science.
He's an idiot. He "mastered" Night Visions by Imagine Dragons and it's horrifically loud with absolutely zero dynamics left. Audio mastering engineers that limit and crush music are no better than book burners.
OK. So you know how they always say it ISNT THE GEAR ITS THE EARS???? Well, in my 15 years of work, i am able to achieve a mix like that of Joey's -- i really can and have multiple times. Howeever -- that SINGLE MOVE Joe LaPorta did at 2:35 on that Muth Audio box did something that iv been after for YEARS. This widening effect while still maintaining a natural cohesion. THIS IS THE GEAR. Two knobs did that!! What is this box? Googling didn't help -- please refer me to this box, and what it does.
It's a custom box called a Transfer Console, common in high-end mastering places. No converters, just a "console" for mastering. FYI, Chris Muth used to design gear for sterling and is now co-owner of Dangerous Music
The mix sounds already quite hot anbd congested in the low end and in the mid-lows.. I'm wondering how much room really has Joe La Porta to do his work at his best. Such a shame to get such hot mixes to the mastering stage. Great job man!
Maybe that is just the the style the artist wanted (most likely is) grimey, muddy, girthy dirty drums and low end, if ur a mix engineer the song is not about you and how you feel about the artist's choices, Remmember. the song is all about the artist and they're vision.
@@kbmadethatshit6364 totally agree... artist vision is king. Didn't intend to blame Joe's mastering work at all. Just praising him to try to do his best with that source mix.
This track is a collage of noise. Mr. LaPorta is being very generous in trying to polish a track whose objective is to be rowdy and in your face, and meant to be jagged and disturbing. There are diminishing returns by adding subtlety via the mastering process. The audience for this track will most likely not even notice the effort.
This is why he's a great master engineer. His goal was to master at a competitive level, he felt the track was already mixed with enough disturbance and feeling big 'cause of all the low end. So he straightens the frequency balance and imaging so it can compete on playlists and radio. That's the final touch a mix needs if done properly. If you are used of doing more (or a lot) in mastering than I would recommend getting better in mixing.
it's not because you finesse something that you "soften" it. It's misconception. I immediatly heard it could benefit from a little less 100hz and more 2k, yes it's fine tuning but the result is going to be: more agressive. Not polishing to lessen the message. Because crowded down low wasn't even all the way they could go. great move from LaPorta, this + wide medium compatibility + whatever level the client wants. done. Then again if you think you don't need mastering, don't go, art is art, mastering is just a very nice option to use.
to be honest I feel like I'm being invited into a third incarnation of about 6 or 7 until this is ultimately released. And that's going to be a final decision from the originators of the song. It seems like a push from an industry to build up hardware sales. If the industry forever doesn't want to tell us the truth about the final sound using hardware versus the final sound using software...ITB...then _it is what it is._ btw. I know this comment will be buried due to UA-cams positive Disney comment system.
It's not a matter of whether I do or don't like hip-hop. When I watch a video on mixing and mastering I expect the source to have some real or even sampled instruments (keys, guitars, bass, horns etc.). I don't hear anything but an overly loud drum machine or sampled kick, nonsense insert effects and spoken vocals. I hear, nothing subtle or dynamic. This isn't any style of "music" that I enjoy. That's my opinion. Sorry if offends anyone.
@@raydandy4899 "When I watch a video on mixing and mastering I expect the source to have some real or even sampled instruments (keys, guitars, bass, horns etc.)." ...why? Why that entirely and completely arbitrary set of expectations? I mean, that's entirely fine if that's your personal preference, of course. But 'I expect this'? Your expectations (not your taste, and not the video) are at fault here, nothing else.
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/good_mix
These are the legends that bring classics. Respect to the unseen. Eddie Sancho as well.
How to explain with the least amount of words and most of amount of music? This video right here!! Kudos
Joe really made this super accessible vs some other MWTM videos. I appreciate the knowledge dump
What's the program he's using?
yo the song is so fire....the beat is crazy
If you want to get an idea of how important the design of professional mastering room is, search for Warren Huart's interview with Bob Ludwig. The speakers in his room sit on massive concrete slabs under the floor.
Northward acoustics sience!
Badass track and mix
BAD BOY SONTEC EQ. ONE OF THE BEST EVER MADE.
What does he mean he says he's adding "imaging" to the top frequencies? Is that a spreader?
yes, he uses an imager such izotope's ozone imager spreading the highs
@@rickblackers88 Thank you, Rick.
he's using a piece of mastering hardware designed by Chris Muth. I am not 100% sure what the circuit does but maybe some M/S processing.
This guy is a wizard and is the reason some of your favorite artist is big. I have the upmost respect for joe I love his work fr fr very underrated . Don’t sleep tho this guy knows the Sonics and is very capable
No.. a mixing engineer adding some sparkle is NOT the reason BIG artists are BIG. Its a combination of THEIR TALENT, songwriter TALENT, producer TALENT and where the MARKET is currently. Anyone can make a mix that brings out the key elements and doesnt ruin the song - its not rocket science.
He's an idiot. He "mastered" Night Visions by Imagine Dragons and it's horrifically loud with absolutely zero dynamics left.
Audio mastering engineers that limit and crush music are no better than book burners.
2:16 sounds like a vocalist on RATM
good catch - it is feat. Zack De La Rocha ✊
The master of mastering 🙌
So cool. Great furniture by the way.
OK. So you know how they always say it ISNT THE GEAR ITS THE EARS???? Well, in my 15 years of work, i am able to achieve a mix like that of Joey's -- i really can and have multiple times. Howeever -- that SINGLE MOVE Joe LaPorta did at 2:35 on that Muth Audio box did something that iv been after for YEARS. This widening effect while still maintaining a natural cohesion. THIS IS THE GEAR. Two knobs did that!!
What is this box? Googling didn't help -- please refer me to this box, and what it does.
It's a custom box called a Transfer Console, common in high-end mastering places. No converters, just a "console" for mastering. FYI, Chris Muth used to design gear for sterling and is now co-owner of Dangerous Music
Oh and btw, I'm pretty sure what he initially did on that side unit is just volume
Imaging working on songs where you only have to do a db of limiting to get them loud 😅
This dude name is on so many of y’all favorite rappers as the mastering engineer I know he paid
Man who else was like stop turning it down? 😆 🤣
whats the name of vu meter??
Mastering is such an art
it's a craft, there is a difference.
What a banger of a track! 💯
Wow some people in these comments really think they know what music is 😅😅
...it is defiantly sound, doe!
Daw/Editor??
pyramix
The mix sounds already quite hot anbd congested in the low end and in the mid-lows.. I'm wondering how much room really has Joe La Porta to do his work at his best. Such a shame to get such hot mixes to the mastering stage. Great job man!
Agreed, I thought it was quite cluttered in the 150-300 range
Maybe that is just the the style the artist wanted (most likely is) grimey, muddy, girthy dirty drums and low end, if ur a mix engineer the song is not about you and how you feel about the artist's choices, Remmember. the song is all about the artist and they're vision.
@@kbmadethatshit6364 totally agree... artist vision is king. Didn't intend to blame Joe's mastering work at all. Just praising him to try to do his best with that source mix.
I also learned that analog hardware rules. Keep your equipment. Software helps but sound warmth is infinite.
what he is really trying to say is why they put so much low end!!!! smh
One hell of a fucking beat... and im mainly a rock guy. But yeah, some funny comedy going on in this thread. 🤭😅
im not so far to have the same equipment. i have the same mouse. hohoho
I DO HIGH END / ULTRA HIGH RESOLUTION AUDIO MASTERING!! CAN I MASTER SONGS FOR YOU SIR.
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We may need some help
La NASA
These comments are laughable
Crushing albums to a dynamic range of 4 is not "mastering" it's musical destruction.
This track is a collage of noise. Mr. LaPorta is being very generous in trying to polish a track whose objective is to be rowdy and in your face, and meant to be jagged and disturbing. There are diminishing returns by adding subtlety via the mastering process. The audience for this track will most likely not even notice the effort.
Well said.
This is why he's a great master engineer. His goal was to master at a competitive level, he felt the track was already mixed with enough disturbance and feeling big 'cause of all the low end. So he straightens the frequency balance and imaging so it can compete on playlists and radio. That's the final touch a mix needs if done properly. If you are used of doing more (or a lot) in mastering than I would recommend getting better in mixing.
it's not because you finesse something that you "soften" it. It's misconception. I immediatly heard it could benefit from a little less 100hz and more 2k, yes it's fine tuning but the result is going to be: more agressive. Not polishing to lessen the message. Because crowded down low wasn't even all the way they could go. great move from LaPorta, this + wide medium compatibility + whatever level the client wants. done. Then again if you think you don't need mastering, don't go, art is art, mastering is just a very nice option to use.
How would you work on a track containing real music played ba real musicians with real instruments.
Maybe some real music
3:42 not really
to be honest I feel like I'm being invited into a third incarnation of about 6 or 7 until this is ultimately released. And that's going to be a final decision from the originators of the song. It seems like a push from an industry to build up hardware sales. If the industry forever doesn't want to tell us the truth about the final sound using hardware versus the final sound using software...ITB...then _it is what it is._ btw. I know this comment will be buried due to UA-cams positive Disney comment system.
Dolby atmos overrated!
'twould help if you started with a good song, mates. ugh.
Sorry that "song" just put me off finishing this video. Not my kind of thing at all.
zzz
I bet you think hip-hop isn't real music, don't you?
It's not a matter of whether I do or don't like hip-hop. When I watch a video on mixing and mastering I expect the source to have some real or even sampled instruments (keys, guitars, bass, horns etc.). I don't hear anything but an overly loud drum machine or sampled kick, nonsense insert effects and spoken vocals. I hear, nothing subtle or dynamic. This isn't any style of "music" that I enjoy. That's my opinion. Sorry if offends anyone.
@@raydandy4899 exactly. guy's a newb
@@raydandy4899 "When I watch a video on mixing and mastering I expect the source to have some real or even sampled instruments (keys, guitars, bass, horns etc.)."
...why? Why that entirely and completely arbitrary set of expectations? I mean, that's entirely fine if that's your personal preference, of course. But 'I expect this'? Your expectations (not your taste, and not the video) are at fault here, nothing else.
Any Pink Floyd beside that thing you call music?