What do you think of the microtransactions in D-Day, reply to this comment to tell me your opinion (i.e do you think it's p2w, were the devs justified in implementing the gamepasses)
it doesn't make sense that they adding microtrasactions as a main way of profit, since you could just add cosmectics, taunts, weapon skins, etc, instead of making it p2w.
kinda feels like the difference between parents and grandparents the parents are vigilant, and want to defend their child meanwhile the grandparents simply don't care
The sad thing is, it wasn't always like this. A few years ago back when the game was unpolish and had little UI, the game was the embodiment of chaotic mayhem. This was before matches could end, so every time the Axis got pushed to the stronghold it would become an absolute mess of support spam from both sides. It was fun.
i remember playing this a few years ago on a raid of a group i was in, it was pretty fun idk if the game was p2w back then but since we were all playing for the 1st time nobody had gamepasses anyway lol
I love how you made an 11-minute thoroughly-investigated video on how this game is pay-2-win, and the community still tries to disagree and can't even come up with a decent counterargument
like how at 9:49 the person just restates his point 3 times to make it seem like he has more evidence. and even then, it's a terrible point. Roblox users are a new kind of stupid.
I remember a few years ago (back when nametags weren't even a thing) I would pick a uniform that looked like the other teams and just walk backwards, pretending to fire at my own teammates. It worked so many times
As you said before, i quit the game when people started using bazookas even in a 1v1 and also because sharpshooters were killing farther than my PC could render or were just very well hidden
may i introduce u to... centaura? no p2w pass,only pure skill with class usable using point system which u can get through killing enemy,oh and u can go deaf. but yeah game is geniunely fun and i recommend it alot
@@user-sg9ql8nk1uthe game isn’t fun, you’re always getting sniped or killed by the annoying spam artillery as soon as you spawn in and you can barely see anything because of the constant bombing
there aint no sniper here,and abt the artillery just move around and dont stand in 1 place,people here aim very quickly and dont just stand in a place@@Chirality101
I don't blame you for wanting to talk about this. More people ought to. When a game is bad- criticize it. Often, the only rebuttal I get to game critique is "Why are you yapping?", "You couldn't make anything better" (I could), or "If you don't like it, don't play it" Most roblox players don't seem to understand rhetoric nor do they understand standard of quality. They need to learn to control themselves and recognize quality in a game so that they don't waste their lifespan on something not worth their time. That's just my take though...
Cuz most roblox players r kids with brainrot and get addicted to anything (no cap wtf is sol's rng why did it even get popular its just a glorified text generator)
9:49 That whole statement was just “-Explosive rework -Explosive rework -uhhhh, explosive rework -Oh! And explosive rework! -You’re a skill issue!” Also, I went into the discord server of combat warriors (a game where you can pay/grind excessively/gamble excessively for 2 shots weapons where other weapons are 3 shot, rocket launchers, Tommy guns, missile showers, nukes and BLACK HOLES! I told people if the thought it was skill-based (it was VERY p2w to get rid of any confusion) and they said “Yeah, it’s skill based.” Then I talked about the aforementioned reasons why it was p2w and they ignored me.
Ok I understand your argument but I think when they meant “skill-based”, they were talking about during combat: All of the disasters and weapons (RPG + Tommy gun) you can buy after are annoyances, but are one time use. Yes, I understand the Tommy gun has a 3 mags, and I understand you get like 4 shots with the rpg but at the end of the day, if you can either kill them or make them waste their bullets, it’s gone. And with disasters, I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone realistically spam something like nuke or black hole just to get kills. Because otherwise, people usually just leave. Maybe with missile shower but usually anybody who does that gets spam reported, targeted or everybody just leaves. For 2 hit-weapons, while I do agree with your sentiment on how annoying they are and pretty much how op they are on paper with it being basically just a confirmed kill with Kunai, I do not think removing the weapon would make it any better. Besides, yes you can buy/roll and get the weapon and swing it like a maniac, but once people realize all you do is that, what’s gonna stop even a guy with a Bo staff parrying the hell out of you? I’m not saying you must use it and it’s the solution to all your problems but Parry is there to level the playing field. It’s broken and hard to use, but free. D-Day however has game passes that affect combat permanently. If any of the game passes mentioned that appeared in the video all can be used in succession, without cooldown. The bazooka is basically the RPG from combat warriors, but the problem with the bazooka in D-Day and why it’s a lot worse there is because in D-day, there are infinite ammo. RPG has a 4 shot limit so you have to use it carefully, even so the blast radius I’m pretty sure is as much as a grenade. But with Bazooka? Oh it has all the ammo you need, you see that single infantry guy shooting at you? Just blast them. Yes, you could maybe help your team and shoot it at the advancing enemy but nah, there’s one guy shooting at you that you can kill easily. Besides you have inf ammo anyways, reload after and kill them later. And the classes, well are like the gadgets and weapons you could use in combat warriors. Except since D-Day is a game with preset load outs (excluding say the gamepass weapons), you’re only limited to 2-3 weapon selections. So while you can mix and match how you want to fight in CW, you’ve only got 5 loadouts to choose from in D-Day. The other 7? Give massive advantages that they can use over you all the time. Without penalty. While you have to decide whether you want to take an smg and go close quarters or go from afar and take a rifle, little Timmy with his mum’s credit card can buy the gamepass that just gives both of them, making any thought of how you wanna play just redundant. I do not want to discredit your own argument though. I do believe the game is maybe a little too much sprinkled with things to buy (bundles, spin wheel which I can understand p2w sentiment with the gamepasses for that), I do not believe, however, that the game is blatantly pay 2 win, unlike D-Day for the comparison. If there’s anything wrong with my argument, feel free to point them out.
oh, CW k its Not p2w exactly, its more so gambling, Black holes, Missles and Tommys are all paid or gambled which is P2W in which, yeah scummy but then again most weapons in CW is horridly broken and they get teamed, tarheted and teamed on, Rocket Launcher is by crates u find, 3 shot weapons and 2 shots are so u learnt to pearn and yes I even hate sometimes how quick u die but I would like to state this P A R R Y, D O D G E. Also been in CW discord for awhile nobody likes it rarley, mainly irons and they know the devs and owner is greedy
as a person who ground the game for literal hours and got everything in the Loadout shop, oh, I am SOOOOOO damn glad I stopped playing Combat Warriors. even IF you grind for all the super-powerful weapons legitimately, which I made the mistake of doing, even IF there's no one in the server with a tommy gun or RPG, or spamming nukes and airstrikes, and even IF someone doesn't instantly end the round with a black hole, it's still super unfun to play because of all the toxic players and the game's core gameplay practically forcing you to play sweaty to even get anywhere, which leads to getting super worked up and raging. the other dudes in this reply section can say "skill issue" and "parry and dodge" all they like, even if it really _isn't_ pay to win, *_it still isn't a fun game_* , and that objectively still makes the game bad, because the whole point of a game is to have fun.
@@pillowmint4622True, I haven’t seen it first hand but the things I’ve heard that has happened in a CW server (specifically online daters because like, how?) makes me question how did we even get here. Though, thats probably because I never actually played the game too much and just stayed in beginner servers because it was fun just watching the chaos. And also maybe just parrying the same guy 5 times over while not killing him just for a little bit of tomfoolery.
@@pillowmint4622 I played combat warriors before any of these things existed, when it was new it didnt have any gambling, powerups or any of that. It was just mortem mettalum with executes and a more fleshed out system. Now though... they did a for honor and kept trying to make it faster.
The first time I played this game the entire Axis was sharpshooters. I'm glad there was a video like this addressing how obvious that the game is mostly p2w. (I like playing war games like these, but this is just stupid) but overall good video yeah 🗿
@@meng4667 Enter a bad PC: When your PC will overfry so much that you have to play with the lowest graphics possible, it really becomes a problem. I always liked the sniper class, and i still do but when your Pc doesn't allow the fun then its just irritating.
@@Alb_Balk I still dont have a good gaming pc nor did I when the game felt acutally fun and didnt feel as pay to win. But its annoying now as more and more people are buying gamepasses which go farther in range to were i cant even do the beach battles or majority of the long range battles because of sharpshooters.
Funny how u have to buy a sharpshooter class, like the core of all fps games is having a long ranged weapons, roblox users are very much oblivious and empty minded when someone says that some roblox games are just p2w
Thanks for making such a well articulated video. I used to embrace the p2w passes but now I can't stand them. It's especially annoying that it's impossible to toggle +25hp pass as I honestly want to play more fair. oh and on top of that I think it was a real cash grab when they decided to monetize killstreaks when they came out. If they had monetized it, I would have expected only the cumulative xp bonus to be part of it and not the menu stat itself, but no, they decided to add it as part of a seperate pass :/
you should be able to delete the gamepass if you don't want to use it anymore, but you'll have to buy it back of course if you want to activate it again
Other than the body armor. I feel like they could slightly fix the p2w issue by making everything unlock from leveling up since it doesnt do anything right now other than a name change. You can buy the game pass the fasttrack your way to the gun you want, but other players can level up to get them as well without having to pay money to get them. There could be a level cap and players that reach it unlock the bazooka and maybe the armor.
Still P2W because new player exist and the paid new player still have that +25% survivalability advantage with no downside. In addition, this make the XP boost micro-transaction which is previously for cosmestic purpose only is now P2W because paid player have less effort to put into the game to get those +25 HP while player that don't, they have to spend more time and effort to gain that advantage. And this make the game unbegineerfriendly as new player is obviously have disadvantage against exprienced player and adding a +25 HP to the exprienced player only make it more unfair, especially if the new player is assigned into your team and you litteraly can't control it.
@@michaeljonathan9715 it wouldn't be p2w, it'd be paying to advance faster. That's far better and generally is agreed on being one of the best methods if a game is going to have micro-transactions. All content can be gained by playing, and the player can decide if it's worth doing or not based on how much time they'll save.
@@yourbiggestfan395still p2w, would you call a game like pet sim for example not pay win since you technically can get all the pets legit but if you spend money on the game you can earn it 10x faster
@@michaeljonathan9715 Thats not P2W. The massive cope of not wanting to grind has stirred the definition of P2W these days. Do you really expect a level 1 should have equal strength against a level 100 in an MMO? Its just progression skipping and it is fine under normal circumstance. Unfortunately in a lot of games the grinding up process is designed in such way that beginners that is not paying is heavily constrained by timegates and being unable to catch those who are paying.
fun fact the time that gets added after you take a flag is not set to a predetermined amount and adds time based off how low the timer is, I've had it where as axis defending the beach flag we lose it with 3 seconds left on the timer and the timer gets set to 20 minutes, and this is not the worse of it all, if the attacking team takes Mutiple flags in quick succession the time can go to 40+ minutes which has happened to me before while I was defending but when it happened we get pushed back to the last flag and were suppose to defend that for 40 minutes, there's no set limit on how high the timer can go it just depends how fast the attacking team can take flags
Never even bothered to try this game. Glad to know i was right not to. I judged the book by its cover and judged right. Feel bad for those tricking themselves into buying things for a mediocre game.
Spending money on gamepasses is a waste of money on roblox, I rather put those money to buy a good indie game like hotline miami or payday very much a better invesment, i feel bad for all the roblox kids who waste their parents money on gamepasses that are ridiculous.
@taxdanoob yeah but there arent many, rather buy an indie game from steam, though i enjoy old roblox fighting games like armored patrol and phantom forces since they dont have p2w stuff
If they want a profit theres something called "cosmetics" They're good for those who want to spice up their game, such as different skins or a kill effect but there is no need to pay wall classes with such op buffs.
theres a game that is similar to d-day but i think isnt *too* p-2w. its called entrenched, it takes place in ww1 and almost the same minus most p2w features. so any d-day players wanting a similiar experience you should check it out.
Your videos are too high quality for the amount of people that watch it! It's not a lot of money but i guess you can buy like a cheeseburger or something 😂 keep it going! You should definitely make a video about Starscape btw, it's a space MMO on Roblox like EVE online, it used to be pretty popular but it lost a lot of potential after Keth (the game dev) shut down the main discord server and basically stopped progress on the game altogether. Have a nice day!
Wow, thanks so much! I never expected anyone to ever super chat me, it's really appreciated. I'll keep Starscape in mind as one of the potential games I could make a video about. You have a nice day today!
@@GamesFoundationYT yo someone named Vxyl already made a documentary about it called "the best Roblox game you've never played" if you're ever interested in researching more into Starscape then i highly suggest you watch it! I don't want to pressure you if you don't want to watch it btw. It's just a really good documentary :)
I remeber the good ol days when there was no timers and rounds basically went on indefinitely until everybody leaves the game. Edit: yo thanks for the 100 likes guys 👍
I’ve really seen such good editing and script. I hope your channel grows man. Also, I agree, I used to play this game a lot in like 2021, and now it just bore me because I can’t join a server without having a sniper killing my entire team from 30kms away
Just thought of a really good idea actually, leveling up in the game takes a VERY long time, so i think you should unlock gamepass items, perks, and classes through levels with the gamepasses themselves just being a way to speed up the process.
I remember playing D-Day quite a bit during the pandemic (especially when Morbius released funnily enough). While the gamepasses made the game unbalanced, you'd still be able to win on skills alone as you'd improve overtime. However, after a while, the player count lowered drastically and most of the active players started having gamepasses, which made the game hell to play in F2P. Pretty sad stuff :(
Try to say the game is p2w when you are not the one being blasted by bazooka and mortar spammers and one tapped by a sniper main composed of 1 little dot at the edge of your render distance.
i only have the bazooka gamepass and its not a p2w game as i destroy paratroopers out of the sky with the MG-42 just because your bad doesnt mean u blame gamepasses
Bro I remember back in the day like when it first realesed there were none and the community was way nicer yes the map was all blocky and porly textured but it still was fun seeing it grow atfirst when it grew it was better but than the updates that happened in 2020 to now all suck.
I swear the allies are so much richer all the time in the game, its a bit to HISTORIC, like I would love to play the game without the allies winning 90 percent of the time.
0:32 the battle at castle itter did not take place during d day, it happened during may the next year, castle itter is in austria, and not normandy, or france
Play entrenched instead, It's a WWI Game with every single class unlocked, except the officer which you can unlock by being rank 5, the only gamepass that affects gameplay is the decoy head, meant to counter the sharpshooter class, but i don't think it's useful when the enemy sniper is just picking off your entire team. I suggest you try it because it's much better than D-day
In one game, a bunch of Germans had sharpshooters on the bunker and started mowing down our men in the landing craft… *we never even reached the beach and they won.*
I agree with you, one time I played it my team was so close to winning until someone who had every game pass joined and pushed us back all the way to spawn :/
I've never played this game, but here's my take from what ive seen in this video: For the bazooka, the devs need to add a 5 second ready time, maybe longer, before it can fire , in order to reduce 1 v 1 cheeses. Maybe add a significant accuracy penalty for firing while moving. Maybe tack on a 1-2 second aiming time where you are immobile before firing. To counteract the penalties, maybe add an increased radius to encourage attacking charging groups of enemies rather than individuals. Basically make it a little more powerful but make it require actual thought before using. Body armor: replace +25 health with -25% damage on body hit. Effectively the same thing except it removes the tanking of headshots.
Grenades: at least one of the free classes should be able to carry a grenade by default for flushing out enemies. If people want to pay for them, give other classes a grenade, and give that class 2-3 grenades. A bit overpowered, but grenades are easier to avoid than rockets. Paratroopers: force Paratroopers to parachute all the way down to the ground, with death being the penalty for cutting free early. Also add a delay before players can spawn from the plane, somewhere between 25% to 50% of the first objective timer. Parachuting in should not be a free ticket behind enemy lines, it should be high risk, high reward, leaving you as a sitting duck until you hit the ground.
The fact that you can pay for extra stats and better weapons is... outrageous, to say the least. All jokes and humour aside though you fucking cooked with this
it's a game which relies on having Game sense, which most people like you and everyone who subs to this guy doesn't have It's super easy to counter all the P2W classes with just normal classes lmao
@@MagentiumPRIMEthat bullshit, this game aint skill based since the Marksman class is supposed to be a basic essential in any war game, its supposed to be something that everyone has the access of it and this game made it paid access, So basically they can shoot you from long ass range but you cant shoot them back since in this game marksman is simply having long range ass scope and you cant tell where you getting shoot from since the bullet track isnt a thing in this game because they just popped out of nowhere, and also this game has extra health Gamepass that already make the game unfair as shit and rpg in this game has wider area of damage than the whole fucking milky way that you can kill a whole a team if theyre in the same building with 1 shot of it, and u can say game sense to a game that actually worked like enlisted or Battlefield because you can play the whole classes and it actually took skill because Special class aint a thing in these game
@@MagentiumPRIMEand did u understand how Game sense work? 1 of the essential of game sense is team working but how u gonna do team working when a weapon like spammable rpg its a thing in this game? And u have to realize you cannot team working when your whole fucking team using a fucking whole same class, if your whole team using assault class then a single marksman would beat their ass easily because they can shoot them from safe range while the whole team confused where did the shot come from bevause its impossible to find out
Minor correction: Besides everything about the game's P2W features and you being correct, the battle of Castle Itter was not during D-Day, and in fact took place *right before Germany's surrender.
also they managed to ruin it by taking the most interesting part of defecting german soldiers out of it, well that probably doesn't ruin it but I'm incredibly salty about tit
I was going to play this, then I checked the gamepasses (easy way to guess how p2w by checking how many passes there are) and I was blown away by the sheer number
ikr, I have 2 games that are even more of pay 2 win; City-17 (RPG costs 1999 robux, boost to 01 Ground Unit costs 1999 robux too, SMG costs 599 robux, pistol costs 299 robux, armor costs was it 399 or 599 robux, Etc.) and City-8 (every class can be bought via gamepass, or grinded for via contracts, kills, and so on. you can even turn the in-game currency into trophies that allow you to unlock classes.) by far the dominant classes I see in City 8 are: Wallhammer (CMB), GRID (CMB), ET (Reb), Conscript (Reb), Ranger (CMB), and so on.
@@Anonymous-j5f item asylum has a pretty p2w gamepass called "rng" which increases your chances of suceeding when using rng based items (like the 50% chance of getting a jojo stand getting ramped to 75 when using an arrow)
I get your comment, not defending the game here, but donations are a lot less common then game passes as there's no incentive to donate. Again, they could just make cosmetics. But donations in general aren't a very good way to make money. Cosmetics are better. (Yes I'm replying to a 8 month old comment)
@@pretendpasta4796 yea just add le colored chat tag or smth or some leaderboard for donating honestly anything is fine as long as it doesnt affect gameplay tho pure donations are the best donations to get as it actually means the buyer cares for the game
@@pretendpasta4796You’d be surprised at how lucrative donations can be if you include a donation leaderboard. Everyone tries to one up each other on the Block Tales donation leaderboard
4:46 the airborn pass used to not include a class at all and was cheaper (49 robux if I remember right) it was only somewhat recently that the class was added
another thing that sucks about this game is a random kid said I’m gonna touch you to me then I said some rude stuff and then he called his mod friend on me AND GOT ME BANNED even tho he was the one racially discriminating people and saying I’m going to TOUCH YOU and I got banned for 2 months???? Like the moderation sucks in this game also.
Yeah man I remember I used to play this game a while back. I had bought the sniper class, I once got a 200 killstreak while sniping from the church to the beach back when matches were infinite. It sure was fun. For me. Probably not so much to the other players
I feel like most Roblox games could be seen as having "pay to win" attributes these days. You could argue that even something like Natural Disaster Survival is p2w because it has two gamepasses that make the game significantly easier. I think that problems arise when the gamepasses are too expensive, there are too many of them, and when it ruins the enjoyment others, especially people who don't have gamepasses, get from the game. It sounds like D-Day unfortunately breaks all of those rules. I honestly really wish Roblox would bring back daily login rewards in some form so people who aren't able to purchase Robux are at least able to buy a gamepass once every month in their favorite games. I think it'd help to even the playing field a lot more, however considering Roblox is a for-profit company, they probably want to keep free players desperate to buy Robux so they can get their money.
Incredibly ironic that the devs are open about the game being p2w, but the community copes hard on it not being p2w. Like when your own devs say it's p2w you have no argument.
I remember when I used to play that game and at the start it was fun, there wasn’t a lot of p2w players but when the p2w players started to flood, I just could play the game anymore with all the mortars and sharpshooter like what could I do about that? So I quit the game in the end
I’m a p2w but I mostly use medic or flamethrower, but they should definitely rework the bazooka and add a way to detect sharpshooter like a glare on the scope, because if a sniper finds a well hidden area they can get tons of kills making it extremely hard to move forward
I like to main engineer; I find just building and fortifying very satisfying. I’m also that guy who places mines literally everywhere so sue me haha. I definitely agree with you on the sharpshooter thing. Earlier today, I was in a match and to our dismay, half of the Americans were sharpshooters sniping us from across the bridge where we couldn’t even get a shot at them without 4 of us getting our heads blown off. A glare effect would most definitely turn the tables.
@@onetwoyankee I agree, I certainly love making the entire map be Bosnia. They could make it so that for paratroopers to deploy they have to wait for a certain time (1 minute or 1 minute and 30 seconds maybe) before paratrooper deployment takes place. And they could probably remove a lot of the payment walls to access the classes.
I play this game and I definitely agree it's P2W, but the effect it has on the game is a bit of a variable. If you have one, two, maybe three people with the gamepasses, the overall impact it has on the game is generally negligible. It's when a team has a high amount of these gamepass owners is when the P2W issue especially rears its head. When you have a team that effectively only consists of straight upgrades compared to the other, it's unfair and there's no arguing against that. However, I do think that defeating P2W players is inherently impossible, and still can be done even if it is objectively unfair. Bazooka is still objectively unfair though, without a doubt about it. The amount of 1v1's I've cheesed with it is insane
It really depends on the gamepass, if those two to three people have the paratrooper gamepass it might be annoying, same with the bazooka, if they have something like the armor, it isn't that bad but still annoying.
@@pigeonflame9885 Honestly, Probably one of the best solutions. Like geniuenly you never see an P2W player and it only relies on skill. And how good your team is, so team matchmaking is still an issue. the only complain i have is the movement being sloppy, since i got used to FPS game's movement.
And this is why red bears operation overlord is better, yes it has transaction, but in the end when you equip a gun it’s first person which kind of destroys the advantage aspect, and it has a level up system so instead of a hole in your wallet it’s a hole in your time
You cant buy the armour gamepass anymore. However, people who bought it before that still keep the benefits of it, so you could argue its even worse now
this reminds me of when a warthunder fan told me that the game isn't p2w the B1 Bis and Ter were at the same BR, but the Ter has more armor, speed and it's hull gun had better traverse but some how it isn't p2w
99% of roblox games are P2W. The bad part with this game is, that it's a shooter, I've played it, I've said it multiple times it's p2w, people who are p2w always say its not, because ofcourse they would
Even though i totally agreed with most points he makes, there still are more than one way to fight people with gamepasses, and idk, most of the times i never ever see this being an issue while i play.
Used to play dumpster-day in mobile when it still hasn't gotten the map update yet, just firing around and hoping I get a kill (I sometimes do but it's very rare, yeah I'm a skill issue in mobile), thinking the bridge bunker cannon works, shooting around randomly with the MG-42 in the bunker, and spam shooting the entrance of the Axis HQ First thing I saw when revisiting was a load of P2P and a hacker (who said "these dogs are mad" and "skill issue bro" like what the heck man you're literally cheating it's literally you thats having a skill issue!1!1!2(!1!1!(3!!!1!1!!!!1!1!1)
Community of D-Day in a Nutshell: 1 - Have Sharpshooter 2 - Abuse Blindspots 3 - Abuse Rockets and Mortars 4 - Defend the Game with Teeths and Claws when you call them out for being p2w 5 - They Swear with their entire lifes that the game isin't P2W, EVEN THOUGH there is a Gamepass that gives u a Health Boost talking about greedy devs...
Kinda sick of game devs hiding behind "We need to make money" as an excuse to make the most greedy, terrible decisions in their games. Everyone gets angry when Roblox nickles and dimes people, but are fine when it's the devs that nickle and dime.
To be fair, even when one paratrooper actually lands the land on a spot that is actually impossible to shoot them from unless they mess up or get blown to pieces by a mortar
To be fair, there are like 10 paratroopers per server and they have a force field for a few seconds and they can let go of their parachute so they can’t get mowed down.
To be fair, when a paratrooper lands they usually bring a bazooka and start blasting the axis defending the beach clueless while that one guy trying to shoot the paratrooper down is crying on the inside
@@budissuperuncool I have never played Fortnite and i'm an avid TF2 fan I'm just aware of how much of an horrid circlejerk of mindless Valve bootlicking (and sometimes mindless Valve trashing, depends) the fandom has become
Back december 2020 I was like 10 and bought all of the passes (I used to be a big history buff) I still am today. But yeah the p2w classes are so stupid like you didn't pay for a class in war you either got them chosen for you or you were an experienced soldier. And the guns are extremely unrealistic. The flamethrower had 3x better range in real life and the devs are so lazy to not even give the guns iron sights in first person. The Bazooka was made to destroy tanks and they don't even put tanks in! And the cooldowns for the bazooka and grenade are super dumb, you reload the bazooka and have a limited supply of grenades. Good video.
I was actually looking to play a game like this but i like to check gamepasses before i play a game (so i know if i'm getting into an actually good game or some piece of garbage cash grab) And as soon as i saw the body armour, I immediately thought of the latter and didn't touch the game at all, I'm glad i was correct. Also the bazooka game pass reminded me of naval warfare's gamepasses which i don't think are as horrible but still pretty annoying
ngl the game is still fun even with the p2w, almost everyone playing is extremely young so 80% of the players you will encounter are completely braindead
@@EveIyn29 I have seen worse p2w games believe me; ER:LC (Big Guns gamepass for a M249, PPSh, MSR and some other stuff, 180+ robux), SWAT Team (Bearcat, Sniper, Rifle, Vest, Helmet, Shield, SWAT Livery for some vehicles, High targeting rate towards you. Vests block 15% of damage, While ballistic shields block 100% of the damage, but restrains you from using anything but a sidearm while holding the shield. You can also flank a officer that is using the shield to kill them easier. 700+ robux.) FD Special Operations (HAZMAT Neutralizer, New Truck, Class B and Class A Hazmat suits, Tech Rescue Suit, Safety Rope, Etc.), Permanent scanner (exactly what it says; A scanner that you can use for detecting nearby police units and listening in on their conversations, resets after 2 minute cooldown on each use.) City-17 (RPG for CMB and Rebs, Costs 1999 robux and sometimes doesn't guarantee a kill. Armor for 399 or 599 (cant remember), Mostly helps Rebs and CPs. SMG for 599 (helps only rebs and those of Recruit, 05 and 04 class CPs) Pistol for 299 (Helps only recruits.) 01 Rank boost (only helps CPs) and extra stamina) City-8 (Every class can be bought for Robux, Or unlocked via a vigurous grind using every trick in the book; Promo codes, Kills, Infestation Control Unit, Contracts, Currency transfers.)
Nah try Centaura it's all free and it's more smoother but if you don't like too much gore and loudness or fiction history entrenched is better as there's not so much P2W stuff the only stuff that's P2W is the armor and shield which isn't really good once I experienced it and no one uses it anyway + all classes are free but the Officer class can only be unlocked when your Rank 5 but it's kinda easy to rank up anyway
This situation is similar to minecraft server hosters, the only way to have some kind of revenue and keep going is p2w in some way. When you don't earn enough or none at all it would be: With minecraft it would be, unable to pay for server hosting and in roblox it would be, losing relevence to roblox and ranking lower in search results. (To clarify, roblox puts you higher in search results and front page the more money you make for roblox, there are exceptions however.)
as a history fan, I can confirm my favourite part of d-day was when that one british soldier said "it's skill time" and proceeded to use his credit card to win the battle
This why I always loved TF2’s system of everything that gives you an advantage also gives you a disadvantage like for example if you get the body armor gamepass then instead of more HP you get damage resistance in which either the rifleman or sharpshooter can pierce the armor which gives at least SOME SORT of fairness
yeah but in tf2 there is no pay to win, literally everyone can have every weapon without paying, sure paying would be a lot faster but its literally just wasting money, since its so easy to get the weapons without even trying.
Adding pay to win microtransactions to a game about the massive amounts of people who died in a horrific war is a clear sign that you're not in it for anything BUT the money.
Tried this game out for the first time today played 3 games then left. 1st Game we couldn't reach the objectice as the entire enemy team had snipers and 2 MG gunners. (Omaha Beach Allies) We kept getting sniped from the landing craft even while zig zagging with the boats these guys can magically hit fast moving targets with one shot to the head without missing. Second game i played as the Germans the allies somehow started the march with the beach already captured 10 seconds after the match started. They couldnt take the village and we won. Played as the germans again for game 3 and immediately there is 7 Foreign Aid players pàrachuting onto the objectice and we all died before we could reach the objective. Later on in the same match we kept getting mass spawn killed by 2 level 59 players with extra health game passes and foreign aid again... They won the match 5 minutes after it started because of foreign aid parachute spam. Got so bad to the point where our team had 4 players remaining and they still had 7 players. Oh and i played this on xbox it is very poorly optimized for aiming with a controller. My camera movements were no where near as smooth as yours in the video as the camera kept jerking too far past where i intended to aim, and i was forced to turn down my sensetivity on roblox to make it more tolerable but even with it set to 1 i sti had a difficult time aiming most of my guns. Yeah I'm never touching this game ever again.
Honestly this game has an way to keep the p2w while also being fun and fair. Just make a gamemode you can't use any of the gamepasses does affect gameplay and everyone will be happy. Meaning the game could still be profitable and for the ones who are f2p or new to the game could also have fun aswell.
do you mean like ranked matches? im sure that p2w players will bitch about their game passes not applying on a round, so it's better to have ranked matches where new players are put against each other and you unlock gamepasses at a certain level. or just ranked matches in general so everyone can have fun
how to fix p2w 101: • make ingame coins • make them only gainable with ingame kills • replace robux with the ingame coins • (optional) make a battle pass of some sorts
Problem is, they need income, as Roblox is greedy, and the robux to money exchange is scuffed, and at the end of the day they need money, I used to play this game when paratrooper and officer were the only gamepasses, Omaha was the only map, and u can’t caputure the last flag on Omaha. It pains me that this is what has become of this game. It’s still fun but it makes me want to throw my pc out the window when I get 1 tapped by a bazooka spammer
These games tend to die faster than the passion projects that focus on the experience rather than the profit. If you have seen tower battles: battlefront, they have been around for years, and still have a very big active player base, and their only game pass is a 50 robux donation, which I bought because the devs actually care about the experience, while updates are rare they are good and people get very excited to play them, because the game is fair to all players, and all towers are available to get for free.
As a man who bought the sharpshooter gamepass to ko someone by headshot, then a few days later they add a 25+ health gamepass, I am certainly disappointed.
"Erm, your opinion is invalidated because children play the game" That might be the dumbest argument ever, by that logic most games cannot be criticized because 67% of games are rated E or E10+
Sadly, this is how most, if not all games on roblox. Jailbreak, Mining Inc, and basically any and all simulator games suffered this problem. Anyways, I recommend playing something like Krunker, since it ISNT pay to win and even more fun.
I think they should’ve taken the same approach. Slap battles did for P2W There are three gloves in the category, ultra instinct, overkill, and custom. And all of these have a special ability ultra instinct has a 50% dodge rate custom can put himself into a cube that’s customizable, and if people touch it for way too long, they die and overkill, which could one shot anybody but they all have counters ultra instinct doesn’t dodge, other abilities that you lock back, for example, whoa’s shockwave overkill it doesn’t one shot if it gets hit by an ice glove and custom has a F2P version, called mega rock with the only difference being that custom is customizable, and mega rock is not
I used to love this game, like full on I would spend like 5 hours a day playing it, it was so fun, then came the update where they added the timers, it made the game feel more forced, where I just had to constantly push up instead of just enjoying the game as I did before. The Mortars, Sharpshooters and RPG'S fucking ruined it man :(
What do you think of the microtransactions in D-Day, reply to this comment to tell me your opinion (i.e do you think it's p2w, were the devs justified in implementing the gamepasses)
Great video it's well edited your covering he p2w side so I'll give it 7/10 (from your local gamingvirus)
I also subbed
@@HappyBoyMan3466 thanks virus
it doesn't make sense that they adding microtrasactions as a main way of profit, since you could just add cosmectics, taunts, weapon skins, etc, instead of making it p2w.
It’s 100% pay to win
I love the community going “no the game isnt p2w its completely skill based and super balanced” but then the dev is just like “yea it is p2w”
kinda feels like the difference between parents and grandparents
the parents are vigilant, and want to defend their child
meanwhile the grandparents simply don't care
@@youraveragerobloxkidngl i would flip it because parents are more hard on you and your Grandparents are just like “yeah do what ever you want”
@@stalinnotballen7592That's what they said though?
@@Kami74159 literally not at all
@@sukhmihughcorkliterally is
The sad thing is, it wasn't always like this. A few years ago back when the game was unpolish and had little UI, the game was the embodiment of chaotic mayhem. This was before matches could end, so every time the Axis got pushed to the stronghold it would become an absolute mess of support spam from both sides. It was fun.
The good old times but back then engineer barricade stairs to roof in city were a “bit” OP, a bit…
I remember that sometimes when the axis got pushed back the allies let them recapture everything so the match could start again fresh
i remember playing this a few years ago on a raid of a group i was in, it was pretty fun
idk if the game was p2w back then but since we were all playing for the 1st time nobody had gamepasses anyway lol
those were the good days, still fun tho
When you could swim at forest...
If there is a gampass that increase your health by a certain amount that lets you absorb one shot sniper, that's something pretty significant
if you use Medic with hp gamepass you can still get 1 shoted by sharpshooter cuz sharpshooter does 130dmg
@@JJK_Fan11103 Sharpshooter is locked behind a paywall though
@@JJK_Fan11103lol
Myth is still worse than Arcon.
Bleh
I love how you made an 11-minute thoroughly-investigated video on how this game is pay-2-win, and the community still tries to disagree and can't even come up with a decent counterargument
like how at 9:49 the person just restates his point 3 times to make it seem like he has more evidence. and even then, it's a terrible point.
Roblox users are a new kind of stupid.
@@oztreuenfels158thats actually a type of fallacy but i forgot the name of it
@@oztreuenfels158 yeah I could say the same for people who watch anime 🗿
@@MHPAMproof by assertion i think
@@Epsilon-18 your honor, relevance
I remember a few years ago (back when nametags weren't even a thing) I would pick a uniform that looked like the other teams and just walk backwards, pretending to fire at my own teammates. It worked so many times
lol
Meet the spy
@@naganolopezjuliocesar2432 Meet the spy guy
""Who's ready to go find that spy?"
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I am the spy.
Had people tell me it’s not pay to win due to there being no winning 💀
Ah yes, my favorite type of game, pay.
@@andrewpinedo1883nah bro it's pay to.
literally just Pet Simulator 99 or X
Honestly just "Pay" is probably even worse than p2w
@@andrewpinedo1883Day: the heist
As you said before, i quit the game when people started using bazookas even in a 1v1 and also because sharpshooters were killing farther than my PC could render or were just very well hidden
may i introduce u to... centaura? no p2w pass,only pure skill with class usable using point system which u can get through killing enemy,oh and u can go deaf.
but yeah game is geniunely fun and i recommend it alot
@@user-sg9ql8nk1u no passes, pure skill, and cool stuff. the downside? ptsd
e x a c t l y and it is well worth@@lemonhedymun
@@user-sg9ql8nk1uthe game isn’t fun, you’re always getting sniped or killed by the annoying spam artillery as soon as you spawn in and you can barely see anything because of the constant bombing
there aint no sniper here,and abt the artillery just move around and dont stand in 1 place,people here aim very quickly and dont just stand in a place@@Chirality101
I remember when this game was just an endless slog. no timer, no alternate maps, just back and forth forever.
yeah same
same, I miss old d-day :(
I don't blame you for wanting to talk about this. More people ought to. When a game is bad- criticize it.
Often, the only rebuttal I get to game critique is "Why are you yapping?", "You couldn't make anything better" (I could), or "If you don't like it, don't play it"
Most roblox players don't seem to understand rhetoric nor do they understand standard of quality. They need to learn to control themselves and recognize quality in a game so that they don't waste their lifespan on something not worth their time.
That's just my take though...
Cuz most roblox players r kids with brainrot and get addicted to anything (no cap wtf is sol's rng why did it even get popular its just a glorified text generator)
9:49
That whole statement was just
“-Explosive rework
-Explosive rework
-uhhhh, explosive rework
-Oh! And explosive rework!
-You’re a skill issue!”
Also, I went into the discord server of combat warriors (a game where you can pay/grind excessively/gamble excessively for 2 shots weapons where other weapons are 3 shot, rocket launchers, Tommy guns, missile showers, nukes and BLACK HOLES! I told people if the thought it was skill-based (it was VERY p2w to get rid of any confusion) and they said “Yeah, it’s skill based.” Then I talked about the aforementioned reasons why it was p2w and they ignored me.
Ok I understand your argument but I think when they meant “skill-based”, they were talking about during combat:
All of the disasters and weapons (RPG + Tommy gun) you can buy after are annoyances, but are one time use. Yes, I understand the Tommy gun has a 3 mags, and I understand you get like 4 shots with the rpg but at the end of the day, if you can either kill them or make them waste their bullets, it’s gone. And with disasters, I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone realistically spam something like nuke or black hole just to get kills. Because otherwise, people usually just leave. Maybe with missile shower but usually anybody who does that gets spam reported, targeted or everybody just leaves. For 2 hit-weapons, while I do agree with your sentiment on how annoying they are and pretty much how op they are on paper with it being basically just a confirmed kill with Kunai, I do not think removing the weapon would make it any better. Besides, yes you can buy/roll and get the weapon and swing it like a maniac, but once people realize all you do is that, what’s gonna stop even a guy with a Bo staff parrying the hell out of you? I’m not saying you must use it and it’s the solution to all your problems but Parry is there to level the playing field. It’s broken and hard to use, but free.
D-Day however has game passes that affect combat permanently. If any of the game passes mentioned that appeared in the video all can be used in succession, without cooldown. The bazooka is basically the RPG from combat warriors, but the problem with the bazooka in D-Day and why it’s a lot worse there is because in D-day, there are infinite ammo. RPG has a 4 shot limit so you have to use it carefully, even so the blast radius I’m pretty sure is as much as a grenade. But with Bazooka? Oh it has all the ammo you need, you see that single infantry guy shooting at you? Just blast them. Yes, you could maybe help your team and shoot it at the advancing enemy but nah, there’s one guy shooting at you that you can kill easily. Besides you have inf ammo anyways, reload after and kill them later. And the classes, well are like the gadgets and weapons you could use in combat warriors. Except since D-Day is a game with preset load outs (excluding say the gamepass weapons), you’re only limited to 2-3 weapon selections. So while you can mix and match how you want to fight in CW, you’ve only got 5 loadouts to choose from in D-Day. The other 7? Give massive advantages that they can use over you all the time. Without penalty. While you have to decide whether you want to take an smg and go close quarters or go from afar and take a rifle, little Timmy with his mum’s credit card can buy the gamepass that just gives both of them, making any thought of how you wanna play just redundant.
I do not want to discredit your own argument though. I do believe the game is maybe a little too much sprinkled with things to buy (bundles, spin wheel which I can understand p2w sentiment with the gamepasses for that), I do not believe, however, that the game is blatantly pay 2 win, unlike D-Day for the comparison. If there’s anything wrong with my argument, feel free to point them out.
oh, CW k its Not p2w exactly, its more so gambling, Black holes, Missles and Tommys are all paid or gambled which is P2W in which, yeah scummy but then again most weapons in CW is horridly broken and they get teamed, tarheted and teamed on, Rocket Launcher is by crates u find, 3 shot weapons and 2 shots are so u learnt to pearn and yes I even hate sometimes how quick u die but I would like to state this P A R R Y, D O D G E. Also been in CW discord for awhile nobody likes it rarley, mainly irons and they know the devs and owner is greedy
as a person who ground the game for literal hours and got everything in the Loadout shop, oh, I am SOOOOOO damn glad I stopped playing Combat Warriors. even IF you grind for all the super-powerful weapons legitimately, which I made the mistake of doing, even IF there's no one in the server with a tommy gun or RPG, or spamming nukes and airstrikes, and even IF someone doesn't instantly end the round with a black hole, it's still super unfun to play because of all the toxic players and the game's core gameplay practically forcing you to play sweaty to even get anywhere, which leads to getting super worked up and raging.
the other dudes in this reply section can say "skill issue" and "parry and dodge" all they like, even if it really _isn't_ pay to win, *_it still isn't a fun game_* , and that objectively still makes the game bad, because the whole point of a game is to have fun.
@@pillowmint4622True, I haven’t seen it first hand but the things I’ve heard that has happened in a CW server (specifically online daters because like, how?) makes me question how did we even get here. Though, thats probably because I never actually played the game too much and just stayed in beginner servers because it was fun just watching the chaos.
And also maybe just parrying the same guy 5 times over while not killing him just for a little bit of tomfoolery.
@@pillowmint4622 I played combat warriors before any of these things existed, when it was new it didnt have any gambling, powerups or any of that. It was just mortem mettalum with executes and a more fleshed out system. Now though... they did a for honor and kept trying to make it faster.
The first time I played this game the entire Axis was sharpshooters. I'm glad there was a video like this addressing how obvious that the game is mostly p2w. (I like playing war games like these, but this is just stupid) but overall good video yeah 🗿
Dying against snipers is a skill issue
@@meng4667 i have skill issue
@@meng4667 Enter a bad PC: When your PC will overfry so much that you have to play with the lowest graphics possible, it really becomes a problem. I always liked the sniper class, and i still do but when your Pc doesn't allow the fun then its just irritating.
@@pumpkinflash500 erm excuse me I have the bigger skill issue; I died to a fucking medieval projectile when I was a Demoknight.
@@Alb_Balk I still dont have a good gaming pc nor did I when the game felt acutally fun and didnt feel as pay to win. But its annoying now as more and more people are buying gamepasses which go farther in range to were i cant even do the beach battles or majority of the long range battles because of sharpshooters.
I keep on getting killed by a random ass sharpshooter in D-Day and when i complain they call me skill issue💀
average d-day experience
Ofc skill issue
They’re kind of true
I am the sharpshooter >:)
Funny how u have to buy a sharpshooter class, like the core of all fps games is having a long ranged weapons, roblox users are very much oblivious and empty minded when someone says that some roblox games are just p2w
K1ngbrick said he will remove the body armor gamepass and players who already bought it will get an accessory.
As a frequent D-Day player, I can confirm it’s super pay to win. It’s annoying, but I take advantage of that.
So you fell for the predatory practices and bought some packages?
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 Yeah. I have sharpshooter, foreign aid, +25 health, and extra xp.
@@johncheng1204 i could buy groceries with that kind of money, such a waste...
@@krunken_isok it isn’t even that much, like 10 bucks
@@krunken_isok bro, just 10 buck and you can have fun.
Thanks for making such a well articulated video. I used to embrace the p2w passes but now I can't stand them. It's especially annoying that it's impossible to toggle +25hp pass as I honestly want to play more fair.
oh and on top of that I think it was a real cash grab when they decided to monetize killstreaks when they came out. If they had monetized it, I would have expected only the cumulative xp bonus to be part of it and not the menu stat itself, but no, they decided to add it as part of a seperate pass :/
you should be able to delete the gamepass if you don't want to use it anymore, but you'll have to buy it back of course if you want to activate it again
@@alexpiggy I shouldn't have to forefit my purchase because the devs didn't consider my situation
I really didn't think that someone would make a video about D Day in 2023
Other than the body armor. I feel like they could slightly fix the p2w issue by making everything unlock from leveling up since it doesnt do anything right now other than a name change. You can buy the game pass the fasttrack your way to the gun you want, but other players can level up to get them as well without having to pay money to get them. There could be a level cap and players that reach it unlock the bazooka and maybe the armor.
Still P2W because new player exist and the paid new player still have that +25% survivalability advantage with no downside. In addition, this make the XP boost micro-transaction which is previously for cosmestic purpose only is now P2W because paid player have less effort to put into the game to get those +25 HP while player that don't, they have to spend more time and effort to gain that advantage. And this make the game unbegineerfriendly as new player is obviously have disadvantage against exprienced player and adding a +25 HP to the exprienced player only make it more unfair, especially if the new player is assigned into your team and you litteraly can't control it.
@@michaeljonathan9715 it wouldn't be p2w, it'd be paying to advance faster. That's far better and generally is agreed on being one of the best methods if a game is going to have micro-transactions. All content can be gained by playing, and the player can decide if it's worth doing or not based on how much time they'll save.
Still p2w, if you can spend money to unlock all the best items which would normally take a long time playing legit then it’s p2w lmao.
@@yourbiggestfan395still p2w, would you call a game like pet sim for example not pay win since you technically can get all the pets legit but if you spend money on the game you can earn it 10x faster
@@michaeljonathan9715 Thats not P2W. The massive cope of not wanting to grind has stirred the definition of P2W these days. Do you really expect a level 1 should have equal strength against a level 100 in an MMO? Its just progression skipping and it is fine under normal circumstance. Unfortunately in a lot of games the grinding up process is designed in such way that beginners that is not paying is heavily constrained by timegates and being unable to catch those who are paying.
fun fact the time that gets added after you take a flag is not set to a predetermined amount and adds time based off how low the timer is, I've had it where as axis defending the beach flag we lose it with 3 seconds left on the timer and the timer gets set to 20 minutes, and this is not the worse of it all, if the attacking team takes Mutiple flags in quick succession the time can go to 40+ minutes which has happened to me before while I was defending but when it happened we get pushed back to the last flag and were suppose to defend that for 40 minutes, there's no set limit on how high the timer can go it just depends how fast the attacking team can take flags
those people saying it's not p2w are literal npcs that were probably programmed by the developers
we know its p2w we just are tired of people getting mad about it so we say "its not p2w" just to end the argument
@@kadenyt6623 try saying "we know" instead then
@@Shagg_yGaming na cuz then that just makes the complaining worse i for one like my items not my fault yall are to broke to buy anything
@@kadenyt6623you flex wasting money on a roblox battlefield game?
@@Haseldan sure why not
Never even bothered to try this game.
Glad to know i was right not to. I judged the book by its cover and judged right. Feel bad for those tricking themselves into buying things for a mediocre game.
Spending money on gamepasses is a waste of money on roblox, I rather put those money to buy a good indie game like hotline miami or payday very much a better invesment, i feel bad for all the roblox kids who waste their parents money on gamepasses that are ridiculous.
@Arelated there's some good games on roblox that cost robux that are pretty good, for example Parkour Reborn
@@taxdanoobOr gamepasses that are actually worth it!
But very rarely can you find a game that's worth it.
@taxdanoob yeah but there arent many, rather buy an indie game from steam, though i enjoy old roblox fighting games like armored patrol and phantom forces since they dont have p2w stuff
@@Arelatedarmored patrol deserves much more recognition smh smh
If they want a profit theres something called "cosmetics"
They're good for those who want to spice up their game, such as different skins or a kill effect but there is no need to pay wall classes with such op buffs.
the only people who would buy that are the hardcore fans and thats not many people
they do have cosmetics
@@samdaprogamer you'd be suprised.
@@81de I don't think so cuz if you don't spent a lot of time In a game your not gonna want to spend money on something that won't even help you
@@samdaprogamer Fortnite:
One time I was the only one without a game pass in a server… and most servers
I remember when there was no gamepasses, it was just a game where you landed and tried to survive
theres a game that is similar to d-day but i think isnt *too* p-2w. its called entrenched, it takes place in ww1 and almost the same minus most p2w features. so any d-day players wanting a similiar experience you should check it out.
It’s not p2w even with the passes like allied aid or body armor which are pretty much the only buffs. The rest is just cosmetics and stuff
Your videos are too high quality for the amount of people that watch it! It's not a lot of money but i guess you can buy like a cheeseburger or something 😂 keep it going!
You should definitely make a video about Starscape btw, it's a space MMO on Roblox like EVE online, it used to be pretty popular but it lost a lot of potential after Keth (the game dev) shut down the main discord server and basically stopped progress on the game altogether.
Have a nice day!
Wow, thanks so much! I never expected anyone to ever super chat me, it's really appreciated. I'll keep Starscape in mind as one of the potential games I could make a video about.
You have a nice day today!
@@GamesFoundationYT yo someone named Vxyl already made a documentary about it called "the best Roblox game you've never played" if you're ever interested in researching more into Starscape then i highly suggest you watch it! I don't want to pressure you if you don't want to watch it btw. It's just a really good documentary :)
More like one coffee if you're lucky
I remeber the good ol days when there was no timers and rounds basically went on indefinitely until everybody leaves the game.
Edit: yo thanks for the 100 likes guys 👍
I miss the days of the original
It was just hold beach forever or try to push back from stronghold
Same…
@@TherealSoggyCanwelcome to d-day
the good old days
I’ve really seen such good editing and script. I hope your channel grows man. Also, I agree, I used to play this game a lot in like 2021, and now it just bore me because I can’t join a server without having a sniper killing my entire team from 30kms away
Just thought of a really good idea actually, leveling up in the game takes a VERY long time, so i think you should unlock gamepass items, perks, and classes through levels with the gamepasses themselves just being a way to speed up the process.
I remember playing D-Day quite a bit during the pandemic (especially when Morbius released funnily enough).
While the gamepasses made the game unbalanced, you'd still be able to win on skills alone as you'd improve overtime.
However, after a while, the player count lowered drastically and most of the active players started having gamepasses, which made the game hell to play in F2P.
Pretty sad stuff :(
"its not p2w" -people who spent robux
9/10s the people who spend money on games the ones defending the ability to p2w
Fr, and say the f2p to have skill, when they are no skill
Try to say the game is p2w when you are not the one being blasted by bazooka and mortar spammers and one tapped by a sniper main composed of 1 little dot at the edge of your render distance.
@@pixel273a yep
i only have the bazooka gamepass and its not a p2w game as i destroy paratroopers out of the sky with the MG-42 just because your bad doesnt mean u blame gamepasses
Bro I remember back in the day like when it first realesed there were none and the community was way nicer yes the map was all blocky and porly textured but it still was fun seeing it grow atfirst when it grew it was better but than the updates that happened in 2020 to now all suck.
Game so realistic that it shows how expensive doing war is ✊✊
Its so expensive when an old sniper cost 4$
US taxpayer money goes into buying extra health gamepasses for its soldiers overseas
@@susflareYou spent 4 bucks on virtual crap I can’t believe
I swear the allies are so much richer all the time in the game, its a bit to HISTORIC, like I would love to play the game without the allies winning 90 percent of the time.
This game may or may not sound very p2w. Truly another great video.
How tho?
@@kbimahs how tho what?
@thegamingfooligan IS THAT AN ISLE PFP
@@azurevlogslegit quite possibly
@@thegamingfooligan what badges you got on isle
0:32 the battle at castle itter did not take place during d day, it happened during may the next year, castle itter is in austria, and not normandy, or france
He didn't say that it happened during d day, he said during WW2.
Bro would probably have fun playing Grave/Digger
Play entrenched instead, It's a WWI Game with every single class unlocked, except the officer which you can unlock by being rank 5, the only gamepass that affects gameplay is the decoy head, meant to counter the sharpshooter class, but i don't think it's useful when the enemy sniper is just picking off your entire team. I suggest you try it because it's much better than D-day
Theres the other D-day which was better than this d-day
@@RajaIsThatGuyi agree
Entrenched is in my opinion one of the best games in Roblox, really fun and not p2w.
Armor gamepass
@@Brokendog-wt4ul frickin where?
WE’RE MAKING IT ONTO THE BEACHES OF NORMANDY WITH THIS ONE
REAL
getting mowed down with sharpshooters and aint even making it to the beach with this one🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
In one game, a bunch of Germans had sharpshooters on the bunker and started mowing down our men in the landing craft… *we never even reached the beach and they won.*
Yeah it's actually so damn stupid they can spawncamp with it
Hehehe, love doing it
Should have had that parachute class smh
They still can shoot you mid air lel@@denekhesab.2527
They should add a "Call in naval barrage" feature, behind a 10 dollar paywall /s
I agree with you, one time I played it my team was so close to winning until someone who had every game pass joined and pushed us back all the way to spawn :/
I've never played this game, but here's my take from what ive seen in this video:
For the bazooka, the devs need to add a 5 second ready time, maybe longer, before it can fire , in order to reduce 1 v 1 cheeses. Maybe add a significant accuracy penalty for firing while moving. Maybe tack on a 1-2 second aiming time where you are immobile before firing. To counteract the penalties, maybe add an increased radius to encourage attacking charging groups of enemies rather than individuals. Basically make it a little more powerful but make it require actual thought before using.
Body armor: replace +25 health with -25% damage on body hit. Effectively the same thing except it removes the tanking of headshots.
Grenades: at least one of the free classes should be able to carry a grenade by default for flushing out enemies. If people want to pay for them, give other classes a grenade, and give that class 2-3 grenades. A bit overpowered, but grenades are easier to avoid than rockets.
Paratroopers: force Paratroopers to parachute all the way down to the ground, with death being the penalty for cutting free early. Also add a delay before players can spawn from the plane, somewhere between 25% to 50% of the first objective timer. Parachuting in should not be a free ticket behind enemy lines, it should be high risk, high reward, leaving you as a sitting duck until you hit the ground.
Maybe bazookashould have only 3 shots and slow you down. Also it should have a ready time so you can bring it out mid fight,
imagine soldiers during dday just landed on the enemies bunkers before they even got there.....
lol
edit: can you npcs stop liking my coment
So you havent heard about the gliders the RAF sent
did heard abt it,theres some story abt them soldier also@@evangelionfan2A
Blud does NOT know that paratroopers were used in WWII
Paratroopers are a thing you know
Paratroopers were used before the landing they where deployed first to sabotage the Germans
The fact that you can pay for extra stats and better weapons is... outrageous, to say the least.
All jokes and humour aside though you fucking cooked with this
The fact the people say this is fair and balance is beyond me
it's a game which relies on having Game sense, which most people like you and everyone who subs to this guy doesn't have
It's super easy to counter all the P2W classes with just normal classes lmao
@@MagentiumPRIMEthat bullshit, this game aint skill based since the Marksman class is supposed to be a basic essential in any war game, its supposed to be something that everyone has the access of it and this game made it paid access, So basically they can shoot you from long ass range but you cant shoot them back since in this game marksman is simply having long range ass scope and you cant tell where you getting shoot from since the bullet track isnt a thing in this game because they just popped out of nowhere, and also this game has extra health Gamepass that already make the game unfair as shit and rpg in this game has wider area of damage than the whole fucking milky way that you can kill a whole a team if theyre in the same building with 1 shot of it, and u can say game sense to a game that actually worked like enlisted or Battlefield because you can play the whole classes and it actually took skill because Special class aint a thing in these game
@@MagentiumPRIMEand did u understand how Game sense work? 1 of the essential of game sense is team working but how u gonna do team working when a weapon like spammable rpg its a thing in this game? And u have to realize you cannot team working when your whole fucking team using a fucking whole same class, if your whole team using assault class then a single marksman would beat their ass easily because they can shoot them from safe range while the whole team confused where did the shot come from bevause its impossible to find out
@@arrs5590 Simple answer: Marksman has a trail, follow that trail and you get his position, easy kill
@@arrs5590 game sense has nothing to do with team-work what?? Have you never played with game-sense before??
Well made video and I love how you told everyone to not attack the devs
okay buddy
Minor correction: Besides everything about the game's P2W features and you being correct, the battle of Castle Itter was not during D-Day, and in fact took place *right before Germany's surrender.
Fr
also they managed to ruin it by taking the most interesting part of defecting german soldiers out of it, well that probably doesn't ruin it but I'm incredibly salty about tit
Nope, germany surrendered two days after castle itter
@@intergalacticolive ah, thanks for the correction. for some reason i was under the impression the battle took place on the 7th of may.
I was going to play this, then I checked the gamepasses (easy way to guess how p2w by checking how many passes there are) and I was blown away by the sheer number
ikr, I have 2 games that are even more of pay 2 win; City-17 (RPG costs 1999 robux, boost to 01 Ground Unit costs 1999 robux too, SMG costs 599 robux, pistol costs 299 robux, armor costs was it 399 or 599 robux, Etc.) and City-8 (every class can be bought via gamepass, or grinded for via contracts, kills, and so on. you can even turn the in-game currency into trophies that allow you to unlock classes.) by far the dominant classes I see in City 8 are: Wallhammer (CMB), GRID (CMB), ET (Reb), Conscript (Reb), Ranger (CMB), and so on.
@@Anonymous-j5f item asylum has a pretty p2w gamepass called "rng" which increases your chances of suceeding when using rng based items (like the 50% chance of getting a jojo stand getting ramped to 75 when using an arrow)
So true, it should have better customization and more free classes.
“adding p2w is the least worst thing to do to generate revenue”
… adding donations?
clueless devs
Fr that’s such a lame excuse
I get your comment, not defending the game here, but donations are a lot less common then game passes as there's no incentive to donate. Again, they could just make cosmetics. But donations in general aren't a very good way to make money. Cosmetics are better. (Yes I'm replying to a 8 month old comment)
@@pretendpasta4796 yea just add le colored chat tag or smth or some leaderboard for donating
honestly anything is fine as long as it doesnt affect gameplay
tho pure donations are the best donations to get as it actually means the buyer cares for the game
@@pretendpasta4796You’d be surprised at how lucrative donations can be if you include a donation leaderboard. Everyone tries to one up each other on the Block Tales donation leaderboard
The people who are complaining the game isnt p2w are most likely people who bought the p2w gamepasses
4:46 the airborn pass used to not include a class at all and was cheaper (49 robux if I remember right) it was only somewhat recently that the class was added
0:56 medic using a gun for offense purposes?! that’s a war crime and you’re no longer a medic you’re now seen as a common soldier
To be fair, its roblox, players will kill medics even if they are unarmed, warcrimes are unknown to the players
@@lorddumb21 yea…I guess
@@lorddumb21 warcrimes arent unknown to the players, they just dont care
im one of those people
@@ShadyIndividual513 oh ok
another thing that sucks about this game is a random kid said I’m gonna touch you to me then I said some rude stuff and then he called his mod friend on me AND GOT ME BANNED even tho he was the one racially discriminating people and saying I’m going to TOUCH YOU and I got banned for 2 months???? Like the moderation sucks in this game also.
Yeah man I remember I used to play this game a while back. I had bought the sniper class, I once got a 200 killstreak while sniping from the church to the beach back when matches were infinite. It sure was fun. For me. Probably not so much to the other players
maan its so no skilled i hate it
I feel like most Roblox games could be seen as having "pay to win" attributes these days. You could argue that even something like Natural Disaster Survival is p2w because it has two gamepasses that make the game significantly easier. I think that problems arise when the gamepasses are too expensive, there are too many of them, and when it ruins the enjoyment others, especially people who don't have gamepasses, get from the game. It sounds like D-Day unfortunately breaks all of those rules. I honestly really wish Roblox would bring back daily login rewards in some form so people who aren't able to purchase Robux are at least able to buy a gamepass once every month in their favorite games. I think it'd help to even the playing field a lot more, however considering Roblox is a for-profit company, they probably want to keep free players desperate to buy Robux so they can get their money.
Pacific RP, that charges you 400 or 200 robux for a damn sniper rifle
Incredibly ironic that the devs are open about the game being p2w, but the community copes hard on it not being p2w. Like when your own devs say it's p2w you have no argument.
I remember when I used to play that game and at the start it was fun, there wasn’t a lot of p2w players but when the p2w players started to flood, I just could play the game anymore with all the mortars and sharpshooter like what could I do about that? So I quit the game in the end
I used to aimbot on pay to win roblox games. D Day was no exception. 3ds boy 08 sold out and exit scammed us Synapse X lords
I’m a p2w but I mostly use medic or flamethrower, but they should definitely rework the bazooka and add a way to detect sharpshooter like a glare on the scope, because if a sniper finds a well hidden area they can get tons of kills making it extremely hard to move forward
I like to main engineer; I find just building and fortifying very satisfying. I’m also that guy who places mines literally everywhere so sue me haha.
I definitely agree with you on the sharpshooter thing. Earlier today, I was in a match and to our dismay, half of the Americans were sharpshooters sniping us from across the bridge where we couldn’t even get a shot at them without 4 of us getting our heads blown off. A glare effect would most definitely turn the tables.
@@onetwoyankee Or some type of like a dark effect on the screen if they're aiming at you. Like a light one not just a full black out.
go play a better game not made by greedy devs
@@serily4524 Entrenched seems like a nice suggestion.
@@onetwoyankee I agree, I certainly love making the entire map be Bosnia. They could make it so that for paratroopers to deploy they have to wait for a certain time (1 minute or 1 minute and 30 seconds maybe) before paratrooper deployment takes place. And they could probably remove a lot of the payment walls to access the classes.
W video i hope your channel gets bigger soon, very high production quality
These things should be possible to get for free but kinda hard. I mean it’s better if it’s not p2w att all but it’s way way better.
I play this game and I definitely agree it's P2W, but the effect it has on the game is a bit of a variable. If you have one, two, maybe three people with the gamepasses, the overall impact it has on the game is generally negligible. It's when a team has a high amount of these gamepass owners is when the P2W issue especially rears its head. When you have a team that effectively only consists of straight upgrades compared to the other, it's unfair and there's no arguing against that. However, I do think that defeating P2W players is inherently impossible, and still can be done even if it is objectively unfair.
Bazooka is still objectively unfair though, without a doubt about it. The amount of 1v1's I've cheesed with it is insane
i played the game for before gamepasses were even added, P2W's are easy to beat if you just know how to play
hop over to entrenched
Ive played this game since 2020 and I got better than the p2w kids lol, but the p2w kids certainly do ruin the game and the devs are money hungry.
It really depends on the gamepass, if those two to three people have the paratrooper gamepass it might be annoying, same with the bazooka, if they have something like the armor, it isn't that bad but still annoying.
@@pigeonflame9885 Honestly, Probably one of the best solutions. Like geniuenly you never see an P2W player and it only relies on skill. And how good your team is, so team matchmaking is still an issue. the only complain i have is the movement being sloppy, since i got used to FPS game's movement.
And this is why red bears operation overlord is better, yes it has transaction, but in the end when you equip a gun it’s first person which kind of destroys the advantage aspect, and it has a level up system so instead of a hole in your wallet it’s a hole in your time
Pay to progress is way better than pay to win
You cant buy the armour gamepass anymore. However, people who bought it before that still keep the benefits of it, so you could argue its even worse now
The only time I played, me and the boys got absolutely shredded by a full team of flamethrowers.
this reminds me of when a warthunder fan told me that the game isn't p2w
the B1 Bis and Ter were at the same BR, but the Ter has more armor, speed and it's hull gun had better traverse
but some how it isn't p2w
In my opinion, the flamethrower gamepass is really good when u use it and it is very annoying when someone uses it against u
99% of roblox games are P2W.
The bad part with this game is, that it's a shooter, I've played it, I've said it multiple times it's p2w, people who are p2w always say its not, because ofcourse they would
I wish microtransactions stopped at cosmetics.
Even though i totally agreed with most points he makes, there still are more than one way to fight people with gamepasses, and idk, most of the times i never ever see this being an issue while i play.
He never said it was impossible. He said it was unfair.
a cinc p2w is usually game over unless ur team have good players
@@MyUsersDarkif you play the game for long enough, the game will become fair easier and less unfair for you. You just gotta play the game
I thought you meant Entrenched and I was like WDYM??
Used to play dumpster-day in mobile when it still hasn't gotten the map update yet, just firing around and hoping I get a kill (I sometimes do but it's very rare, yeah I'm a skill issue in mobile), thinking the bridge bunker cannon works, shooting around randomly with the MG-42 in the bunker, and spam shooting the entrance of the Axis HQ
First thing I saw when revisiting was a load of P2P and a hacker (who said "these dogs are mad" and "skill issue bro" like what the heck man you're literally cheating it's literally you thats having a skill issue!1!1!2(!1!1!(3!!!1!1!!!!1!1!1)
Community of D-Day in a Nutshell:
1 - Have Sharpshooter
2 - Abuse Blindspots
3 - Abuse Rockets and Mortars
4 - Defend the Game with Teeths and Claws when you call them out for being p2w
5 - They Swear with their entire lifes that the game isin't P2W, EVEN THOUGH there is a Gamepass that gives u a Health Boost
talking about greedy devs...
Kinda sick of game devs hiding behind "We need to make money" as an excuse to make the most greedy, terrible decisions in their games. Everyone gets angry when Roblox nickles and dimes people, but are fine when it's the devs that nickle and dime.
To be fair, when you play paratrooper you normally get shot out of the sky
To be fair, normally more people are defending paratroopers than people paratrooping, meaning the axis team loses defenders for the rest of the raid.
To be fair, even when one paratrooper actually lands the land on a spot that is actually impossible to shoot them from unless they mess up or get blown to pieces by a mortar
To be fair, there are like 10 paratroopers per server and they have a force field for a few seconds and they can let go of their parachute so they can’t get mowed down.
To be fair, when a paratrooper lands they usually bring a bazooka and start blasting the axis defending the beach clueless while that one guy trying to shoot the paratrooper down is crying on the inside
To be fair, paratroopers can even unable heir parachute mid air
This is why I think entrenched is better, not only is it less p2w, you can go into first person for a better experience
I thought D-day has first person too....
@@Gamertank2.0 But it is poorly implemented,
I love how everyone hates microtransactions, unless they are a spender then all of a sudden its "Fine and not p2w"
its becoming very normalized to turn into a complete apologetic drone when becoming a fan of something
nintendrones...
TF2 fans
@@unfunniestmantf2 is better than whatever trash game you play. uncultured swine
@@unfunniestmankeep playing fortnite buddy
@@budissuperuncool I have never played Fortnite and i'm an avid TF2 fan
I'm just aware of how much of an horrid circlejerk of mindless Valve bootlicking (and sometimes mindless Valve trashing, depends) the fandom has become
I remember playing d-day back in 2017, it felt better back then
Because there were less classes, the addition of P2W classes with OP weapons ruined the game and caused the community to become toxic and elitist
this is what happens when you have kids for a fanbase
Back december 2020 I was like 10 and bought all of the passes (I used to be a big history buff) I still am today. But yeah the p2w classes are so stupid like you didn't pay for a class in war you either got them chosen for you or you were an experienced soldier. And the guns are extremely unrealistic. The flamethrower had 3x better range in real life and the devs are so lazy to not even give the guns iron sights in first person. The Bazooka was made to destroy tanks and they don't even put tanks in! And the cooldowns for the bazooka and grenade are super dumb, you reload the bazooka and have a limited supply of grenades. Good video.
I miss the “builder’s club” from the early era of Roblox, back when one of the best games was “Swordfight at Heights” etc
"Roblox" and "P2W" are basically synonyms
I was actually looking to play a game like this but i like to check gamepasses before i play a game (so i know if i'm getting into an actually good game or some piece of garbage cash grab) And as soon as i saw the body armour, I immediately thought of the latter and didn't touch the game at all, I'm glad i was correct.
Also the bazooka game pass reminded me of naval warfare's gamepasses which i don't think are as horrible but still pretty annoying
ngl the game is still fun even with the p2w, almost everyone playing is extremely young so 80% of the players you will encounter are completely braindead
how is it fun literally being in a disadvantage over a p2w player lmao@@EveIyn29
@@EveIyn29 I have seen worse p2w games believe me; ER:LC (Big Guns gamepass for a M249, PPSh, MSR and some other stuff, 180+ robux), SWAT Team (Bearcat, Sniper, Rifle, Vest, Helmet, Shield, SWAT Livery for some vehicles, High targeting rate towards you. Vests block 15% of damage, While ballistic shields block 100% of the damage, but restrains you from using anything but a sidearm while holding the shield. You can also flank a officer that is using the shield to kill them easier. 700+ robux.) FD Special Operations (HAZMAT Neutralizer, New Truck, Class B and Class A Hazmat suits, Tech Rescue Suit, Safety Rope, Etc.), Permanent scanner (exactly what it says; A scanner that you can use for detecting nearby police units and listening in on their conversations, resets after 2 minute cooldown on each use.)
City-17 (RPG for CMB and Rebs, Costs 1999 robux and sometimes doesn't guarantee a kill. Armor for 399 or 599 (cant remember), Mostly helps Rebs and CPs. SMG for 599 (helps only rebs and those of Recruit, 05 and 04 class CPs) Pistol for 299 (Helps only recruits.) 01 Rank boost (only helps CPs) and extra stamina)
City-8 (Every class can be bought for Robux, Or unlocked via a vigurous grind using every trick in the book; Promo codes, Kills, Infestation Control Unit, Contracts, Currency transfers.)
You should actually try it. It may be P2W but the game is actually fun
Nah try Centaura it's all free and it's more smoother but if you don't like too much gore and loudness or fiction history entrenched is better as there's not so much P2W stuff the only stuff that's P2W is the armor and shield which isn't really good once I experienced it and no one uses it anyway + all classes are free but the Officer class can only be unlocked when your Rank 5 but it's kinda easy to rank up anyway
This game just looks like a shitty version of hell let loose but without the cool communication
This game is very fun. You can't call a game a version of hell if you haven't played it
@@CarPitStop This game is trash.
This situation is similar to minecraft server hosters, the only way to have some kind of revenue and keep going is p2w in some way.
When you don't earn enough or none at all it would be:
With minecraft it would be, unable to pay for server hosting
and in roblox it would be, losing relevence to roblox and ranking lower in search results.
(To clarify, roblox puts you higher in search results and front page the more money you make for roblox, there are exceptions however.)
as a history fan, I can confirm my favourite part of d-day was when that one british soldier said "it's skill time" and proceeded to use his credit card to win the battle
Finally someone adresses it
This why I always loved TF2’s system of everything that gives you an advantage also gives you a disadvantage
like for example if you get the body armor gamepass then instead of more HP you get damage resistance in which either the rifleman or sharpshooter can pierce the armor which gives at least SOME SORT of fairness
yeah but in tf2 there is no pay to win, literally everyone can have every weapon without paying, sure paying would be a lot faster but its literally just wasting money, since its so easy to get the weapons without even trying.
@@ghartuckt663 hello fellow tf2 player lol
Eh weapons barely matter till the last minute before that you’re dancing around and goofin off unless you’re in a comp server or smth
Adding pay to win microtransactions to a game about the massive amounts of people who died in a horrific war is a clear sign that you're not in it for anything BUT the money.
Tried this game out for the first time today played 3 games then left.
1st Game we couldn't reach the objectice as the entire enemy team had snipers and 2 MG gunners. (Omaha Beach Allies)
We kept getting sniped from the landing craft even while zig zagging with the boats these guys can magically hit fast moving targets with one shot to the head without missing.
Second game i played as the Germans the allies somehow started the march with the beach already captured 10 seconds after the match started. They couldnt take the village and we won.
Played as the germans again for game 3 and immediately there is 7 Foreign Aid players pàrachuting onto the objectice and we all died before we could reach the objective.
Later on in the same match we kept getting mass spawn killed by 2 level 59 players with extra health game passes and foreign aid again...
They won the match 5 minutes after it started because of foreign aid parachute spam. Got so bad to the point where our team had 4 players remaining and they still had 7 players.
Oh and i played this on xbox it is very poorly optimized for aiming with a controller.
My camera movements were no where near as smooth as yours in the video as the camera kept jerking too far past where i intended to aim, and i was forced to turn down my sensetivity on roblox to make it more tolerable but even with it set to 1 i sti had a difficult time aiming most of my guns.
Yeah I'm never touching this game ever again.
Add leveling to unlock all the premium content without paying, but add a gamepass to increase xp gain or something
Honestly this game has an way to keep the p2w while also being fun and fair.
Just make a gamemode you can't use any of the gamepasses does affect gameplay and everyone will be happy.
Meaning the game could still be profitable and for the ones who are f2p or new to the game could also have fun aswell.
do you mean like ranked matches? im sure that p2w players will bitch about their game passes not applying on a round, so it's better to have ranked matches where new players are put against each other and you unlock gamepasses at a certain level. or just ranked matches in general so everyone can have fun
But with no f2p players to abuse p2w on, people wont be inclined to spend money
@@SomeCowguy That's your opinion but other people usualy don't care
after all i would still get a rocket launcher if the other players had one
dhar mann ahh title
how to fix p2w 101:
• make ingame coins
• make them only gainable with ingame kills
• replace robux with the ingame coins
• (optional) make a battle pass of some sorts
thats still pay to win lol
Every time I look at the gamepasses I puke. It's so expensive and nausea-inducing and makes me wanna die.
Problem is, they need income, as Roblox is greedy, and the robux to money exchange is scuffed, and at the end of the day they need money, I used to play this game when paratrooper and officer were the only gamepasses, Omaha was the only map, and u can’t caputure the last flag on Omaha. It pains me that this is what has become of this game. It’s still fun but it makes me want to throw my pc out the window when I get 1 tapped by a bazooka spammer
These games tend to die faster than the passion projects that focus on the experience rather than the profit. If you have seen tower battles: battlefront, they have been around for years, and still have a very big active player base, and their only game pass is a 50 robux donation, which I bought because the devs actually care about the experience, while updates are rare they are good and people get very excited to play them, because the game is fair to all players, and all towers are available to get for free.
As a man who bought the sharpshooter gamepass to ko someone by headshot, then a few days later they add a 25+ health gamepass, I am certainly disappointed.
It's like paying robux for a fire sword gamepass and then they make another gamepass that makes you resistant to fire
Sorry, man. But as a F2P player, I can't feel bad for someone who buys and plays Sharpshooter.
I agree that sharpshooter should not headshot with 25+ health. That is the only good reason to buy the gamepass, sharpshooters don’t deserve kills.
you are playing a childs game my man.. they don't know better, maybe try to play a game for people with developed brain
ah yes having to pay 60 dollars for literal interactive cinema slop
"Erm, your opinion is invalidated because children play the game"
That might be the dumbest argument ever, by that logic most games cannot be criticized because 67% of games are rated E or E10+
Sadly, this is how most, if not all games on roblox. Jailbreak, Mining Inc, and basically any and all simulator games suffered this problem.
Anyways, I recommend playing something like Krunker, since it ISNT pay to win and even more fun.
I think they should’ve taken the same approach. Slap battles did for P2W There are three gloves in the category, ultra instinct, overkill, and custom. And all of these have a special ability ultra instinct has a 50% dodge rate custom can put himself into a cube that’s customizable, and if people touch it for way too long, they die and overkill, which could one shot anybody but they all have counters ultra instinct doesn’t dodge, other abilities that you lock back, for example, whoa’s shockwave overkill it doesn’t one shot if it gets hit by an ice glove and custom has a F2P version, called mega rock with the only difference being that custom is customizable, and mega rock is not
I used to love this game, like full on I would spend like 5 hours a day playing it, it was so fun, then came the update where they added the timers, it made the game feel more forced, where I just had to constantly push up instead of just enjoying the game as I did before. The Mortars, Sharpshooters and RPG'S fucking ruined it man :(