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LADDERS, ARE THEY SAFE? OR DEADLY!? - WINDOW CLEANING
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2019
- In this video we will discuss, are ladders safe to use, what should you be aware of? Should you not use them at all? I would really enjoy hearing your thoughts on this topic.
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100% WFP me, no way am i risking getting a life in wheel chair or my leg pointing the wrong way for the sake of a £10 window clean. Simply, I don't even have a set of ladders on the van no more, so the option is not there. Only had two customers pull me on this when quoting or take the piss, out of 100s of quotes "a window cleaner without a ladder that's stupid". I just reply saying insurance, Health & Safety, better tools avaiable using WFP etc. If it cant get done from the ground with a pole it doesn't get done. Don't offer the option of traditional cleaning at all. The window over the garage, its doesn't get done. Make it clear from the outset to customer what gets done and what will be missed if ladder access would be needed. Customer moans or twists face , no worries probably best you find someone else. For the one pain in the ass job, you soon pick up and easier and better job down the line. There is glass and work everywhere. I want the easiest & simplest jobs for the most reward & least hassles. I am in this business for ME, to make the most ££ cash i can for the least amount of efforts. give me x10 ex-council 2 bed semis with all round gated access for a tenner each, than a £100 footballers 'sandbanks' All glass McMansion. Is this looking after ALL customers needs? probably not. But for those customers that DO fit my work profile, they get the very best service. Fair play to those who make the extra effort to accommodate and accept ALL customers, but that aint for me.
Fair enough mate 👍🏻
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts, much appreciated 😁
I had a window cleaner, but couldn't do rear bedroom window cos decking wudnt take ladder due to being dangerously slippery. I've fell over on decking cos really slippery. He done it cheeper but weren't worth his while all the hag. So I do them myself with long pole as I'm petrified of heights I cling on tight on a step ladder lol. By the way I'm self taught only a year ago. But won't be doing it full time as I've worked it out my job will always pay more. Shame cos I get great satisfaction walking away knowing windows are perfectly clean. I get the odd job now and then at work as I'm a caretaker, we have a team of WFP but they get lots of complaints of streaks. So ground floor flats ask me to do them. I charge a pound its only 3 windows and a glazed garden door. My point is with the WFP guys they are using really hot water everyday. It leaves streaks drys terrible but they won't listen. I worked last summer to give them extra help doing all the schools in holidays it cleaned frames lovely, but windows na bad job I felt embarrassed as school caretaker called us back to squeegee the reachable one's as he wasn't happy. Can't blame him. It's not the water by the way as I requested to check it and it was spot on. When they weren't looking I turned the heater off, straight away much better job.
@@mrbtboydify thank you for taking the time out to share your experience, much appreciated!
@@mrbtboydify clean the decking and it won't be slippery
Two falls in my time one time it slid out wet slabs with algae on one broken ankle & knocked out another slid out on wet grass stitches in eye lid I still use ladders for windows above flat roofs but if I'm in doubt I use the ladder m8trix which wasn't about when I started unfortunately.
Thank you for sharing that mate. Yeah safety first, I think as time has gone on that safety has been better explained and people realise more now how important it is. Thanks for your thoughts mate, always appreciated!
Spot on Pete man. Nose to glass is the only way, whether you’re up high or at arms length. Ladders are a great tool to have in all sorts of jobs. I use them all the time, sometimes with the combination of using a wfp. Never trust using a wfp alone, unless it’s a regular clean and you know the results at the end. Trad all the way.
Top video Pete. Very well explained ✅👌🤜😎
Thanks buddy! We will need to catch up sometime soon 👍🏻
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER yeah mate for sure
Would love a video from you Trad Man on this topic, showing a bit more in detail. Perhaps a review of the ladder M8trix? I've been WFP since day one but I have a few jobs that I could start to clean other windows if I used a ladder.
Yeah going to do some more videos on ladders very soon! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Only had a close call once with my ladders it was 100% my fault got over confident rushing to get jobs done that was booked in on an over booked day and I never set up the stand off properly on the ladder so valuable lesson learnt.
Great Advice Tradster as always
Yeah it can be easy done taking our safety for granted, thank you for sharing your honest thoughts, much appreciated
Great video Pete. I dont do ladders. Plenty of poles in my arsenal. Big liability with ladders
Thanks mate. Always appreciate your thoughts 👍🏻
A wise man once said, 'You can't clean windows from a wheelchair'. Ditch those ladders! I was on them for 4 years. 100% WFP now.
Did that wise man know how to use ladders properly and safely. If he ended in a wheel chair the answer would be no.
Nothing wrong with wfp though.
Problem is it won't remove some things from window panes and frames, so unless you go up a ladder then you'd have to leave those things attached, ie paint, silicone, cement, hard water stains, tree sap etc etc.
If you use ladders correctly, set them up in safe locations then they are perfectly fine to use so long as safety is in your mind you will go up and down in a safe way.
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated!
Would you be able to advise how to get on a flat roof to clean a skylight where there is plastic guttering all around?
Use a ladder stand off 👍🏻
Always best to buy the rite feet for your ladder which I found out 5 years ago I brought cheap rubber feet which I had to cut to size and due to the fact of not being the best quality I paid the price on getting injured and bumped ego which made me scared of ladders till I spoke to peter the trad man and got a new ladder and I fitted myself new Ramsey cup feet
Thanks to trad man I feel safe up my ladder
Really really happy to hear this! Safety first always my friend.
Glad to are keeping well 👍🏻
Often the desire to achieve speed in window cleaning overshadows the need for safety. In Australia, a lot of new homes are built so close to the neighbors that there is no room to safely use a ladder.
Peter, your video reminds me of a video we had at our midweek this part week....
Yeah safety first brother 👍🏻😉
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER haha are we talking about the safety video on Thursday night for the local needs???
@@qazwerspoil yeah haha!!
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER which cong?
@@qazwerspoil Huntly, which is north east Scotland. Yourself?
Where you get the circle ramsey feet from? Do you have a link please
Ramsey ladders online
Fallen off 3 times, in the same day, on the same job. Was my trainers I was wearing!! Luckily it was 2 bushes and only a few feet so no harm done! Other than that I've never had a problem. On a different note used my 14" excelerator with fliq pad on the inside of a big job today. Only the 2nd time fanning with it and got on really well. Not fast with the moerman stuff yet but already can't use my older unger stuff lol, feels like going back to the stone age!
Thank you for being honest. Most people will just blame the tool, in this case the ladder. That's a great point I totally forgot to mention was footwear!! Thank you very much for sharing, really appreciate that point.
Yeah the excelerator is one handy tool that's for sure! Keep going with it and there won't be much you can't squeegee 👍🏻👍🏻
Ladders= necessary evils. Used when needed and for the shortest duration. That said, having a short extension handle helps with the least amount of moving the ladder.
Ladders r safe if u know what your doing iv never had a accident in over 40 year,all I would say is use a A frame ladder for window cleaning they r so much safer than a normal ladder.
Thanks for your thoughts 👍🏻
Great video Pete👍🏻 Ladders are like any tool, they have to be used correctly to be safe. Unfortunately it's human nature to become complacent
Yes exactly buddy, taking safety for granted leads to falls.
Thank you for tuning in my friend, hope your well!
TRAD - MAN THE WINDOW CLEANER I’m good thanks Bro. At least I’ve stopped coughing. Are you ok now?
@@squeakycleandave1 That's good!
I'm a lot better than I was, still getting blood tests, they don't know what's wrong lol
@@TradMan glad to here you are feeling better. these bugs that go round seem to last for ages these days.
@@squeakycleandave1 yeah they really do!!
Sensible, well presented advice. Is it true that in Scotland, any new build has to now be built with windows (above the ground floor) that pivot to enable them to be cleaned internally? All the best.
As far as I know there is no restrictions about the window being able to turn in, as I've seen new builds with sash & case styled windows recently. Good question though! I wouldn't be able to say for 100% sure what the law is on fitting windows that pivot but just from what I've seen I don't think it's a law. Worth a Google 👍🏻
Thanks. I saw this mentioned on a Grand Designs type programme and, even though I can see a lot of sense in the idea, fail to see how it could be enforced.
@@garryclarke7695 Yeah indeed! I'll keep an eye on that though, thanks mate. Interesting stuff
I took your advice and googled: Scotland Building Regs - Window Cleaning. There does appear to be some truth in it; though it mainly seems to be with regard to replacement windows and above four metres.
Garry Clarke 😀👍🏻👍🏻
The same day my dad put them rubber feet on what you use he fell off and he's had plenty of falls in his time but that one scared him the most so now we don't trust them and use spikes instead, don't know how you feel about the round rubber feet vs the spike?
Personally in over a dozen years I've never fallen or come close. Unless the ladder actually fails then its user error, putting the ladder in an unsecured location or angle.
@@TradMan So even if the floor is wet them rubber feet stick to the floor?
@@WoWProductions12 yeah, things like decking though I wouldn't put a ladder on, especially wet, but most stuff is fine, watch this vid and you'll see what little safety tips really help.
📺 ua-cam.com/video/aRXZfWbiK0s/v-deo.html
How are you getting on with the double A frame?
Yeah still getting used to them, takes a wee while to figure out where to place the top of it against so it's secure. Don't feel 100% with it yet. I'm used to a normal trade ladder and leaning it against walls and sills so having to place a point up high is a little different. The little a frame a get on with no issue at all though
How tall is your single a frame?
It's a 9 rung ramsey A frame. Can't remember exactly what the size is but if you check there website and look at the 9 rung it'll tell you exactly
Ladders I’ve fell off 4 times in 20 years 2 of them was bad would I go back to using ladders all day every day .. nope !!!!! Would I use them now and again yes!!! ..... use error I agree we get too cocky and confident when using all day every day.
Thanks buddy, you hit the nail on the head. Use them when needed and safely 👍🏻
Necessary tool but dangerous. You take a fall from 5’ or more. That’s a possible neck breaker. I use them only when I have to and don’t spend one second more than needed on them. Werner ladders is what I use👍🏼
Thank you for your imput, much appreciated 👍🏻
Ps, liking that well trimmed wee beard Peter 👍
Haha Turkish barber matey 😂👍🏻
@@TradMan Ah the old turkish barber. Somewhere , where even a bald yin like me can visit ☺️
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He's growing his own bronze wool. Watch out DA Conponents
@@squeakycleandave1 Haha I just burst out laughing!!! I can grow my own bronze wool!!
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Ladders are lethal things, full stop!
Thank you for your thought mate 👍🏻
Would you explain what makes you feel that way?
@@TradMan I feel ladders should be an absolute last resort Peter! I've have had to many close calls when I was using them , before wfp changed everything. I had an ankalad stabilizer fitted to my ladders & even with great care, ladders prove time & again to be unsafe pieces of equipment! When you consider that just one slip from a ladder, even from a low level & you could end up dead! At the very least , with broken bones or serious life changing injuries! I dont think people give ladders the respect they should !
@@JasonDunlop247 think you've hit the nail on the head at the end there. Respect.
Respect for the equipment and how important safety is, so setting up the ladder in a correct location, using it in the correct way. Not taking risks, ie over reaching.
Many have close calls because they take there safety and equipment for granted.
One of the biggest causes of ladder problems is lack of training. People using ladders incorrectly.
Hence why I try to help by teaching people how to use them safely, and to always keep in mind safety first. Never take chances like having the ladders on a slipy surface or in windy conditions etc.
Thanks for your comment. Always appreciate your imput 👍🏻👍🏻
@@TradMan Likewise Peter. 👍
@@JasonDunlop247 good man 😁