F1 Rookie Brendon Hartley's Dream is Over, For Now | The Players' Tribune
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From Melbourne, to a late meeting in Abu Dhabi, we followed F1 Rookie Brendon Hartley during his first full season for Toro Rosso.
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F1 Rookie Brendon Hartley's dream is over, for now | The Players Tribune
He was such an underrated and unlucky driver. Qualifying 6th in a toro rosso isnt no small feat. Good luck Brendon in the future.
Thing is he did it once and then fell back in the race he Simply did not deliver was caught up in way to many incidents
@@sebastiangoncalves1076 And in all of those incidents Hartley was at no fault except for barcelona
Alza Brendon Slowley cough I mean Hartley didn’t cut the mustard oh well move along ...... next ........
@@riidge4177 Lol are you pretending? P6 quali and P20 to P9 in a race. How is he slow? He's in a Toro Rosso.
He will be back in the future for sure, look torpedo.
You can hear his sound of frustration and disappointment everytime he crashed
Logic It's never a good moment when you work 1 or 2 week on the race and crash at the first lap
Thats with every driver except for maldonado
yet he never got angry which is why I like him as a driver
Forgot Monza, he was taken out before the first corner.....
Tbh monza wasnt gonna be a race where he wouldnt score points, austria however was a race he wouldve scored
Dorian Drenski and Canada
@@itswais77 And Bahrein, were he had a 30 seconds penality
The example of Brendon Hartley shows how politics in F1 is made. Helmut Marko should consider retiring himself instead of "retiring" drivers who performed well but were a little bit of unlucky. All the best to Brendon!
A fan from 🇩🇪
Brendon didn't perform that well. I'll say that he was decent and probably with time enough good for f1. But that's not Red Bull's or Marko's philosophy. They want to find drivers that can fight up to world championships. If the driver doesn't seem to be that worth they'll kick the driver out.
I'd say this is a Red Bull thing rather than a general trend. Red Bull expects mistake-free drivers, and this mentality is biting them. I like to put Grosjean's example. He had a horrendous start of the season. But Haas believed on him and he bounced back at the end of the season
@@Ofitus21 Yeah, you might be right about this calling a Red Bull problem and not from the whole F1!
Denis, what is your twitter name. i wanna post it and tag it under your name
@@kudaRB9jack I don't have Twitter, sorry. But feel free to post it!
Awful decision by Torro Rosso. Good luck for 2019 Brendon
I feel bad for Brendon, should have kept him.
Brendon has been my favourite driver but let's be real he was always like half a second off the pace from Pierre
That's red bull decision
Boohoo. Nice guy but not talented enough for F1. Life goes on. I hope he enjoyed every race he got that chance from Red Bull!
very bad decision he had good finishes but he had to many dnf's and the moste times he did crash himself he got crashed out en becuse galsy got the beter engine and better parts he had more engine failiure's
All the best Brendon! A fan of yours from Malaysia. Take care man.
You take care Turn Juan, trun too...
@@insertname8889 what the fuck?
Will be teammate with kvyat?
@@wannurulaminamin8686 no
It is not fair Hartley is a good driver. Shame on you Torro Rosso.
They freaking gave the old man a chance to race a full season of F1. He would have never gotten that from anyone else. Shame on you for bashing RB/TR.
@@kondjedes4866 Shame on you for being so ignorant
He is shit driver lol
Stephen Webb Hartley good driver? Are you serious?
@@alecreek7081 Two times WEC champion
He seems like a genuinely nice guy and it makes me sad to see him go. He's a solid driver, maybe not as good as Gasley but Red Bull didn't really give him the time to develope either.
Here's my bet....Gasly will be dumped by RB and Danny will be back in there. It's a circus with TR.
@@EnglishLawyer I would like too see Brendon back, a very nice guy, and not that bad.
@@EnglishLawyer hehe you were almost right
@@EnglishLawyer danny to mclaren!
@@EnglishLawyer Geez mate great call. You were almost right.
I can’t believe that Toro Rosso fired such a hard working man, what a shame
Good Luck for 2019 Brendon.
maybe he is entering Formula e next season with Porsche. Neel jani is in, hope they take brendon
I read a news (or maybe rumor I'm not sure) that Ferrari signed him as a simulator driver
@@趙喜娜-m5k not, he is truly a ferrari reserve driver
I love how humble he is after all this madness and he doesn't rage like other drivers do, although it was a frustrating journey throughout the season. Now that he is gone I really wish that he is able to come back to F1.
Well at the end of the season he said he was up to par with Gasly, while Gasly was in front of him most of the times (when you look at qualifying and the races where they both finished.
Tbh, Red Bull isn't great when it comes to driver management. Just like Kvyat before, RB just forcefully threw him back to Toro Rosso so a certain dutch could take his seat in RB. Oh and also l, I think this bad driver management is one of the reason Danny Ric left them for Renault.
Dr Marko is a very cruel and straightforward guy. Only Business nothing personal. That's a pure business man.
Well it's a dick move but it did work out
@@rockzs74r that approach led to long-time consequences.
Well max is definitely faster than kvyat. Also dutch fans bring $$
@@tmive69 Max outperformed kvyat in a Torro Rosso, nuff said.
The unluckiest driver on the grid
Edit: for those of you who thinks that vandoorne is also unlucky, no he is not. He is sucks already. Just look at his performance in formula e. Still the same. He has never finished outside the bottom 5.
An ordinary Alabaman RICCIARDO
1.) Ricciardo
2.) Hartley
3.) Hulkenburg (only because he wasn't fired and did really well even with 7 DNFs)
4.) Bottas
5.) Kimi
@@el_muncho_jr8498 ricciardo unlucky due to shitty car..but brendon unlucky due to others mstake,technocally he is the most unlucky druver
@@fredakml2459 Riccardo got shitty cars after he announced he was leaving the team. Then all focus went over to Verstappen.
@@markhenley3097 Kimi was unlucky in Bahrein and in Spa, in my opinion Vettel it's much more unlucky then Kimi
Just one of the things that bothers me so much about Red Bull as an organisation. They’s supposed to develop their drivers for the long run, not boot them after one season. For someone like Hartley who is one of the nicest guys in the sport, whose bad results this year were mostly down to either car failure or others mistakes, he did have some pretty good runs towards the end and for this to happen to him is cruelly unfair for him, given how well he’s established himself in other racing leagues.
RB what can I say, I wonder if Webber would have stayed a little longer in F1 if it wasn't for RB. P.S. love your channel with all the oldschoop f1 footage !
@@derek.7 Yeah. It's a bit tough to say for me whether Red Bull may have played a part in Webber's decision to leave F1 but it's certainly possible thanks to all the team order troubles going on there. And thanks too, much appreciated! :)
A man struck by mechanical misfortune and challenges in a sport where everything is pushed past the limit. A two time WEC champion, and a guy that knows haw to get around. You can see how he knows his issues and he knows his strengths. He doesn't blame anything on the odds. Torro Rosso dropped a great driver, Best of luck, 28.
I don't know if I would have conducted myself with such grace as Brendon has....
He wasnt that bad he had bad luck and the fact gasly is so good made him look bad
Dimitrije Balanac and you have to remember this guy is a WEC champion, he’s a great driver, just unlucky
@@afa1515 Totally agree. Brendon told it as it was... he was out performing Gasly towards the end of the season.
@@afa1515 And now Gasly is as fast in Red Bull car as last year in Toro Rosso
This turned
At least Gasly struggled at Red Bull
Redbull is ruthless. Always has been. There's no such thing as "give him time" there. Goodluck for everything in the future!
LOL what would you expect?
they gave him all season and he scored less points than stroll!
Raditya Indera They're not. This is typical of F1. They don't have the luxury of waiting for you to get good, after all, that's what the lower series are for. There are plenty of drivers waiting for their shot at a drive. Waiting for a driver to get good is useless. You either impress them in your first season or you don't and they get another guy to fill your seat.
Yes. I can understand that 'ruthless' attitude on the a-team, but the b-team should be a setting where drivers can develop and get better. In order for drivers to get better they have to race with drivers equal or better than they are. Brendan should have been picked up for a second season. Much better option than Kyvatt or Albon, imho.
@@mdhsyracuse I'd rather Hartley & Kvyat than what actually happened.
Redbull should have extended his employment. He was so nice guy that he willingly accepted grid penalties to help the PU development of Honda. Thank you and Good luck from Japan.
For me he was one of the fast toro rosso driving driver sad as i saw him go. He could learn so many things😔
After that, he was once again won the 24 hours of Le Mans.
I'm not a Kiwi, but i've lived long enough in Auckland to really like the dude and I feel really sad to see him go after just one full season.
So Brendon 'invited' you to document his season and all we get is a 5min recap which is all footage anyone can get, or get equivalents of directly from F1 broadcasts, Torro Rosso website of Brendon's twitter ? no insights from the man himself, no first party footage??
He had a column on their website. It's actually extremely insightful! Ricardo also did on on there too!
Even more reason they should have done a much better job with this. Why on earth would they not cross promote that as part of this video? Perhaps put some of the quotes from pieces he wrote on their website.
@@thewonderchris12 The Players' Tribune documented more than half of his races with vlogs Brendon did himself for them, plus extra behind the scenes footage. It's not their fault you're too lazy to go to their site and find them.
Dude the video would be taken down instantly if it had other footage. Lmao you know nothing.
You're really restricted in the footage that you can use from the race weekend. That's why most people are not allowed cameras if you're on or around the grid.
After all this struggle, let’s realise, that he won 2020 Le Mans and P3 on Sebring.💪🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I was so gutted when he was dropped cause I’ve been a Hartley fan since 2016 in his lmp1 days
Marcus Ericsson - 5 seasons
Brendon Hartley - 1 season
JOKE
f1 aught to know better.. this is is first real season...give the guy a break
His race in Brazil was awesome performance too.
And to think they will probably do exactly the same with Albon this year... They should have let Bredon develop for just one more season first.
He was in redbull for a decade lol. He also got to test the Mercedes and Redbull V8 cars for a good 3 season. Had the opportunity to drive in a 2017 car too. What more can this guy ask. He's unlucky and that's how politics work.
Development time
Actually, Albon already doing well
@@grivous9515 Yep I agree, might have to eat my words! So it looks like they'll end up dropping kvyat... Again
@@aaranchauhan9997 Maybe Gelael and Ticktum are hunting the seat, but I'm not sure that Brendon wants to drive a Red Bull Toro Rosso anymore because of Helmut shit Marko
A lot of Brendan's story wasn't really publicly shown so no one really understood or appreciated the progress Brendan had. Hope he gets a seat in F1 in the future.
Revenge by Hartley, in 2020 he is 24hr of le Mans winner for the second time :)
Such an unluckily 2018 season. I hope to see him back in F1 soon. All the best from Australia! :)
that Honda engine sounds amazing.
he is not best f1 driver, but not bad f1 driver. what a awful decision toro rosso.
And now he is simulator driver for Ferrari. 👏
and a 2 time la man winner
Wow, didn't realise he was so unlucky... Honestly, this guy deserves a second chance way more than Kvyat, it was a mistake on Red Bull's part to drop him
The difference between Kvyat and Hartley is that Kvyat has raw speed. He can even outpace Ricciardo. Hartley don't have the raw speed. Yes he was unlucky a lot and I think he might have had another year, but Red bull always want drivers with raw speed.
It really wasn’t fair that they dropped him. You could tell throughout the whole season that he was improving race after race, he just didn’t have luck on his side and unfortunately got into a lot of accidents. He could really have gone far in f1 if anyone would have actually given him a chance.
Super unlucky year for him... Hope you come back strong Brendon, you are a great driver mate
talk about pure unluckiness, got to be a heart crushing moment for him after the last race
Hartley played a huge role into developing the drivability of honda's engine. Which shows considering the thank you message honda posted when he was dropped.
Good luck Brendon. Have a great 2019! 👍
Unbelievable stuff! I thought this being a official video of F1 itself! This really got into feelings! U should have a lot more subs! Thank you for this amazing video
These are the type of drivers that needs to catch a break. I hope he does it with a team that would appreciate his talent and patience in the future. Good luck BH, we'll keep an eye on you!
2:06 sounds like a fart from the Honda engine
What were Red Bull expecting tbh? You can’t forced a driver who last experience in f1 was all the way back in 2010 and have to come back since there was a crisis of driver in toro Rosso, attending measly four remained races and then is put into a drive next season and still managed to scored points? The dude deserve more
1:46 high-speed brake failure with Leclerc? Seems to me he rode the kerb while braking and locked the right front wheel, no mechanical failures involved.
Good luck to Brendon in 2019!
it was a failure, when his brakes failed he just tried not to hit Brendon so he tried to get out of way as much as possible, thus going on the kerb
He deserves so much more!
Brendan now gets to win Lemans and world championships for the best team in WEC. Most drivers would be delighted with that.
What a decent lad!!
What do you expect from an energy drink company? Even Alonso said no to them
this is why i'm not a fan of red bull, they treat their drivers like crap.
He had 4 points compared to gaslys 29. Yes he was unlucky.. but he also wasnt great when he had the chance to perform
On the other hand Red Bull gives drivers a chance who don't bring any money. In most other teams drivers without money don't get any chances.
He did wonders for Porsche’s LMP1 team. I am quite happy he left F1 and I hope to see him in GT/Prototype racing soon!
I love Brendon since the LMP1 days. It's just F1 politics you know. What a cool guy. Maybe he should return to WEC where he belongs.
I know it's a tough game but this guy deserved so much more.
No respect for torro Rosso or red bull. I’m glad Daniel and Brendon are gone.
Karma, coz Torpedo will wreak everything 😜.
Hope Brendon can find a new drive soon in LMP1 or Indy car.
Even Daniil has talent, but again he was screwed by Red Bull's toxic atmosphere. Everyone who leaves that team says the same thing about it. It's toxic
Matt Cecil yeah I agree Red bull admin needs to change. All they want is $$$
@@mattcecil6692 Didnt hear Ricciardo say that. He had a great time with the team.
Olof Olofson 😅DW you seem confused. Matt means Daniil Kvyat Not Daniel Ricciardo.
@@thomaspiscioneri7917 I'm not confused, i responded to Matt Cecil who said that "everyone who leaves the team says its toxic". Well thats not correct, because Daniel Ricciardo had a great time in the team.
Of course, I know Alex and kvyat are good driver.But I still miss Brendon so much. Can’t he back to F1 again?
So sad 😞 he had so much potential
He’s Back now at Ferrari
It just so hard to see this man coming in F1, getting so much bad luck, and getting removed after one season...
1:50 that rear wing looks cool hanging off the rear
Thanks Brendon❤
Now he's absolutely bossing at the WEC, he deserves it
I didn't really pay much attention to Brendon until this video.. Feel a bit sad now.. He seems to have real potential.
Tbh I never really though about the things that happened to him during the season.. I feel very sorry for him because the potential is there!
Get back into track soon Brendon!👍
GT3 and enduros is where the future of racing is at. This era of F1 is all about who is rubbing shoulders with the right people.
Brendon is a great guy and solid driver. But F1 is brutal. It just wasnt enough
such a shame, wasnt given many chance due to bad luck, but when he did he delivered
He had so so so much bad luck this season, under rated driver and he deserves a place on the grid
Respect 👏
He might not be good enough to stay in F1, but he is definitely one of the most even tempered driver in f1. Respect.
Good luck mate
The legends says are u ok still sound every 2weeks on his headset
He's a good lad
Pray his time come, one day. So unlucky!
Respect from Japan. I'll never forget how the crowed shivered to hear P6 at Suzuka.
At the ultimate Driver's circuit, in your 1st F1 season. 頑張ってたのにな・・・
He just dint cut it.
He wasnt a rookie as he did got a chanse before.
Gasly did a much better job overal.
F1 is a harsh enviroment where often you get one chanse and when you get that chanse you need to show you are without a doubt the man suited for the job and prove your worth.
I loved Hartley as a F1 fan and the way he looks and behaves but at the end of the day you need results and he more often then not wasnt there to deliver.
PS:
I bet Hartley is able to murder many race classes as he did in WEC.
F1 is just a totaly other beast where some drivers like Stoffel Vandoorne oblitirated an entire field in GP2 and just could not keep that speed in F1 for whatever reason.
When you make it to F1 you are without a doubt a super racing talent, but once you are there you race against the most talented drivers in the world wich on its own is the king of kings class of racing and sadly these cars dont suit everyone.
If Hartley would go back to a WEC i bet he is again able to crush skulls as he certainly is a beast of a driver and sadly F1 cars seems not suited to his style of driving.
Alot of people arent great at f1. Why keep Kvyat?
He wont be good.
Brendon is a driver better than kvyat in my opinion.
@@fruitloops781
I dont know as its hard to tell wich driver is better if they arent driving in the same car.
I know that Kvyat did beat Ricciardo on points when they were at Red Bull.
I also know that Ricciardo beat Vettel on points.
So its really hard to judge this.
Kvyat made a mess in his last F1 season tough, and sadly Brendon even with his bad luck also did some major flaws wich makes it even harder to rate one of them better.
I do like Brendon alot more then Kvyat tough, and i think both drivers should have gotten more time and trust from Toro Rosso as both guys seemed to got the bad side of the stick.
But like i said its F1 and you have to throw all your balls on the table and drive like a god to hold your seat :)
The races he didn't dnf due to bad luck toro roso had his strategy to run long and hold back others to advantage gassly. We seen in the more difficult qually sesions hungry and suzuka hartley can go faster than gassly. Lets not forget hartley wasnt getting all the aero updates the other car was getting also.
@@fruitloops781 no Kvyat when he is confident he does deliver just like in 2015 beating Danny Ric
Stoffel didnt make it because that mclaren was the 9th fastest car thats why
Brendon will be back by 2020
This guy is too nice and torro gave him an opportunity which he seized unfortunately however he fell into badluck well done champ
One of those guys that had very little luck. I hope his luck turns better!
What a shame toro Rosso. Brendan heartily pulled off so many impossible tasks this year. And you drop him. He is a good driver and does not deserved to be dropped. It is Toro Rosso’s fault for putting him in before he reached his full potential and now Toro Rosso has gone to all new drivers thinking it will help. What a shame. We love you Brendon. Keep pushing
Well now, we knew before he put his butt in a car that Hartley was a good and seasoned racer, not a kid coming up through the open wheeler ranks. And I'm sure that most F1 fans of long standing could see that Brendon's road was not going to be an easy one to plough. The nature of Toro Rosso in the context of RBR means that a journeyman racer in his late 20's, racing for a 'feeder' team, was never going to be a long term prospect.
I say this with no malice, if anything I have a soft spot for him, Aussie to Kiwi. And he's landed a Ferrari development role, which is at least keeping him at the pointy end of motorsport.
Is it bad this made my eyes tear up.
In Mexico he was already told that he was gonna get dropped by TR and not in Abu Dhabi
I honestly feel so bad for Brendan. He deserves another shot in f1. Williams or McLaren should have picked him up
There are a lot of people who are really in the know (not the armchair F1 drivers and experts) who reckon Brendon is one of the best development drivers around so perhaps there is some sort of future for him in F1.
If not, well hey, he WAS an F1 driver (not a keyboard warrior) and you can't take that away from him.All the best to him I say.
He's 2018 season was quite unlucky
It's like Red Bull's test is if you clip the grass, you are out. Kyvat after Japan was also his downfall.
Brandon assistant! 😍
Brendon just needs a team that believes in him when doors close others will open.
THUBMS DOWN FOR TORO ROSSO!!!
i dont know about this but for me he got potential to be the top 7 driver
He suffered alot of bad luck on track, but it's his biggest slice of bad luck to be in F1 when teams are hypersensitive to having points scorers from the get go, no longer building the drivers up a season or two, Sirotkin suffering the same fate. Remember F1 is a business first and a sport second.
Brendon only scored 4 points the whole year, 18 races with 0 points, and 7 DNF. As a person he is great but the performance was no there can’t argue with the facts. Gasley had 21 points, 5 dnf. His partner was 500% ahead of him.
@lol shit yeah 0 points amazing
@lol shit but look at how many cars brendon destroyed... first year crashed like 4-5 times. Not a good look
Good News is Ferrari supporting capable drivers like him. He gets to spend time on the sim and learn more about from it. He's gonna be back strong.
Torro Rosso are ruthless and short sighted especially since Honda loved the feedback from Brendon. Now TR has no Honda driver knowledge and will sacrifice Albion and Daniil Kvyat with penalties to develop the PU for Red Bull. Instead Ferrari now has Brendon as a development driver and all that Honda PU & Electric inside knowledge of TR and Red Bull with him.
Hartley and Vandoorn, two drivers I feel that we’re let down by their team and car. Both have the talent to belong in F1.
Poor Heartly you just can't help but feel for him.. He had no look in F1 with Toro Rosso I would have loved to see him back for just one more season but maybe F1 was never his thing :/
Everybody forgot to mention that this guy won Le Mans 3 times in a row with Porsche and is now driving for Toyota in Wec. He is not pushover. Its just that F1 is a ugly mafia. WEC is a much better and definitely a more prestigious motorsport league.
i heard hartley was picked up by ferrari to be a sim driver..
This video hit me hard damnn at least he's at Ferrari now well as a sim driver
Nice guy but not enough talent for F1. Well spotted by Red Bull. Albon + Kvyat seems like a more solid driver couple. I'll bet Hartley will be super happy Marko gave him a chance to race in F1, unlike his kiwo fanboys.
at least he got a full season in F1