Dealing With Snare Buzz | Home Of Drums
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2019
- Snare buzz is a common problem when it comes to tuning your drum set, but with some simple tricks you can minimize the unwanted noise.
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Sad part of tuning is having the sound you like but getting snare buzz
I can only add that : If I use my 14 X 6.5 DW Brass over Nickel Snare , with my Rack Toms (8, 10 and 12 Inches) tuned the way I "like" it, I get no snare Buzz. That snare is Table Top Tight on the Snare side with the standard snare wires and clear DW Snare Clear head and I have a Evans HD Dry Batter head. However, If I use the Snare which came with the Kit (PDP Concept Maple) 14 x 5.5 ", I get Snare Buzz form the 10" rack Tom..... PIA. I Gatt taped the snare wires on the PDP snare , which stopped the Buzz, but altered the sound of the snare Of Course. But I found that sometimes, playing the snare with the taped wires, I get a deadened snare sound which can sound desireable in certain situations. Let me qualify my Drum playing as a Recreational / Hobbyist player, 70 yo, retired and play drums to My Music. I returned to playing after 50 Years as a retirement Thing. So Glad I did!!!
I commented about a month ago. I get the snare Buzz more so on the 14 X 5.5 snare (Maple). Less so with a Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 snare? Tuning all the drums causes OCD in me.... I find it so difficult to get to that "Sweet Spot" to my ear. I even switched to a 40 wire snare wire - that it worse. So after switching out G2s coated batters on the Toms (8,10, 12 rack Toms), to Remo Ambassador batters (the stock heads) - that produced a more UNSATISFACTORY Tom sound. Switched back and Re-Tuned with the G2s Coated, and I hot the sweet spot for the Toms. Had to add some Gatt tape to the Reso heads and a Evans E-Ring to the Toms batter side - but I got there. Now I have Snare Buzzing using the 14 X 5.5. So, I did the No-No, I installed Gatt tape to each end of the wires - and Bingo just about Gone. It "chokes" the snare a little, but I can accept that for the Music I play (No Jazz , only MY Music form my generation at 70 YO). I am sorry for Ranting, but I returned to playing after 50 Years (1969) , in 2019. I'm retired and play to My Music about 1 hour a day. I did NOT know any of this Stuff about Drums (tuning, Different Batter and Reso heads, Tonal Tricks, etc.( in 1966 when I first started playing. I didn't have as much OCD then. I guess, sometimes, More is NOT always Better. Oh WTH, what else can I do in Retirement especially with COVID (which I just got recently - but recovered OK). Be Well All. Happy Drumming.
Super interesting DIY for Snare Buzzes! Thanks a lot! Mostly I change the pitch of the tom, next would be the snare reso head. But it really depends on the overall sound :)
I find snare buzz adds character to my drum sounds.,
Me too but only to an extent, sometimes it gets past the point of giving the kit a nice character and just ends up making the high tom sound like a weird snare there's so much sympathetic buzz
Thanks for the video. It came in handy this morning when I tune my new drums. Ended up with snare buzz minimal and a killer snare sound.
Okay, another reason why your snare buzz is inherently bad is because you have a metal snare. It holds a lot of those overtones you don’t always want. Wood snares still have it but what I find to help is just having a wood snare, a snare wire that isn’t super duper wide but also is not super skinny, and tuning the snare tight.
Brilliant video! Saved my recordings today
Thankyou very for this video , I was so fed-up and upset regarding this snare buzz issue , it was so helpful 💐💐💐💐💐
I never really understand what is the problem of the buzz, its a sound that i really like because thos gives me another option in terms of sound, when i release the snares, it makes the diference in the sound with the snares and with the snares off in the kit, can switch in different musical contexts
I just simply threw away the rest of my drumkit...
Wow dude 😂😂
Nice
Actually feel like doing that with this issue
That works too
Thank you 😊
I put a small and thin strip of tape under my snares, zero snare buzz but it lost a little sensitivity.
I have the same issues there is a weird snare sound that has buzzing near to the high Tom. But I can't figured out how to fix it.
High quality video!
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Beautiful
Ciao roberto
Thanks for these helpful tips.
Who is the speaker for the
videos ? Despite hearing a slight
german accent he does a remarkable
job! Keep it up.
used small dryer sheet, trimmed, underneath the welded metal part of the wires. i only needed 1 but 2 for each side should do the trick.
This is My Update Observations about the two snares previously mentioned. The DW Brass metal snare (14 X 6.5) Buzzes Less than The Maple snare (14 X 5.5). I have 3 Rack Toms : 8, 10, & 12s. Unfortunately, I get a Little OCDed by this stuff. Tuning drums is more of an Art than I realized. I just re-tuned my drums : EC2s clear on the 3 Toms and a HD Dry on the both Snares. Before I just Touched the Toms today, I had very little Snare Buzz form the Maple Snare. Now after Tweaking them, there is more snare Buzz. I tried a few of the tricks here, but to little avail. I guess I need to keep Experimenting. Oh, I use Evans E-Rings on the 10, 12, 14 &16 [Floor Toms], and that product serves to help muffle too much over ringing from the Toms.
I will post another Drum Tuning "weird" thing. A few weeks ago, I replaced the Batter Head on the DW Brass snare with a new HD Dry head. No matter how I tweaked it, I couldn't achieve the sound I had before the head replacement. I out the Dw on my 16" Floor Tom - to gwet it out of the way as I placed the DdP Maple snare in the stand. As I did a fill while playing, I hit The DW - the sound was GREAT, like the Ludwig SupraPhonic Snare - Like the Jon Bonham Sound That I ahave been trying to attain. Take the Dw off the Tom and it the sound was not the same. That Nice Crack with just the right amount of Overtone. I don't Mic or record any of the drums. I play for recreation in retirement about 1 Hour a day. I posted this Weird Thing on Drum Forums. One poster said that You are playing 2 Drums simultaneously (the Tomand Snare); another jokingly said that I may have invented a new Snare Stand!! Here's a little tip that I tried which too altered the snare sound of both drums: I put a EC2 Clear 16 inch batter head in the Snare stand and put the Maple snare on that. The sound did Improve - to my liking - measurably! I also Re-Installed the HD Dry Batter and Reso heads and the wires. The snare wires have more impact (subtle, but noticeable) than I ever realized. That's why I refer to Tuning as an Art.
Don not fully understand what you say but ...the resonation of the toms does influence the snare sound and the sound of the whole kit. The snare stand does influence the sound of the snare drum. The snare stand may cause deformation of your snare drums or the hoops, When the snare stand is to tight, or not flat , or the drum is not flat in the stand , etc. it introduces tensions in snare drum or hoops.. That will influence the sound of the snare drum. There also are snare drum stands with rubber that fot on the hoops. Locking them very loose and smooth will act like a resonation/vibration/sustain/suspension system. You also can add such a suspension system to the snare drum and mount it like a tom. Some people have the snare drum not flat in the stand and than tighten the stand like crazy . Of course something under the snare drum will influence the snare drum sound and it also mat flatten the mount. Distance between drums: sound is a wave with a wave lenght. There is interaction of waves so ...changing the distance between drums may affect the sound/resonance/overtones.,
What model is this Gretsch kit??
Catalonia probably
deal with it...
i found it helpful, as it brings some kind of attack to the whole drumset..
Less strands on the snare wire can help, too.
there are 8 snare wires on my but it still keeps buzzing :
@@kyleehyo4797 I'll pass some useful videos to you if that can help.
@@Eurodrummer666 please paste the links😁😁
@@kyleehyo4797 recently I came across this video I already knew, in which Nolly gives specific tunings so the snare sings well. In short, for a low tuning, tune the batter no lower than a C, and the reso as a A. I realized that until then, I was going a tad too low on batter and too high on the reso. In my experience, too much tension on the reso promotes zingy sounds since it´s "too responsive". And a too low tension on the batter promotes buzzing as well because it´s too sloppy. Here is the vid: ua-cam.com/video/lPAcojMuouI/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Drummer%27sReview.
As well, if you are doing a "clean install" with fresh heads, I would highly recommend Sounds like a drum channel, especially this vid: ua-cam.com/video/paCUkRiNOWI/v-deo.html&ab_channel=SoundsLikeADrum Here, Cody stresses on the importance of "levelling" the reso head on the 1st use for better results. It means measuring the height of the hoop when installing the reso, but he explains it better past 7.30 minutes.
As well, retuning the toms would help avoiding the buzzing, for example, I tune my 10" on my DWpdpCM7 kit very low so it doesn´t "trigger" the wires.
Good luck with it, and please sendsome feedback!
Very hard to get rid of
What if you put a couple of papers between the snare and wires?
I placed a thin tissue under the edge of the wires secured to the rim by gaffers tape.
Theyt sometimes use roller papers
I have a different situation: The snare by itself has an unusual buzz/rattle all around the edges. I picked up a used snare, changed both heads and snare wires multiple times, and tuned it several times to different pitches, and adjusted snare tightness as well. After many years of experienced drum tuning, this is the only snare where I encountered this problem. Any insight is helpful!
A snare drum that is fallen may have a snare mechanism at 1 or both sides that is not straight, the shell as a whole may not be straight, the bearing edges may be damaged/not flat. That will cause the snare bed/snare wires not to be flat on the reso or not touching the reso at all places. Some snare drums , like bronze, have an enormous amount of resonance. Dampening the shell at outside or inside may help. Many drummers tighten the reso head to a maximum. Gaffa tape on the wires may help. Sometimes a rolling paper between snare wires and reso head may help. In your case i expect the used snare drum has been fallen and some parts are not straight, flat or damaged. With some metal rulers you can check straightness/flatness, perhaps it can be improved. Sometimes the hoops are not straight. Some tension rods can be not straight causing deformation of the hoop. Because you tyright a lot of things: this you did not check ...perhaps there is a solution/cause.
@@HenkJanDrums ha! Thanks- it did not check it with a ruler/straightedge, that would have been good. It was dropped by evidence of a bent snare tensioner screw. I was able to return the drum though - thankfully.
@@msyracuse Great!
That mini muff was choke city !!
And sorry, I don’t mean that in a good way. 😳
This video could have been half as long and twice as good without the 4 maddeningly long hits every ‘original tuning’ example.
Yup !!!!
I double tapped after the 1st hit, which took me to the last hour !!
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