People have different opinions on Jey. Not everyone is a huge fan. Some people have always thought he’s mid and others might take exception to Breakker losing the title so fast Personally, I like that Bron loses unexpectedly to veterans like this. The story is that he’s still a rookie and his arrogance is his weakness. It leaves a lot of room for character development which is convenient because his push should be a longer game.
My thing is bron already ate a pin 2 months ago. Which didn’t need to happen. Seeing him take yet another pin, 2 pins in 2 & a half months despite being presented as an unstoppable monster isn’t a good look. There should’ve been a fatal 4 way or something months ago & jey could’ve won all while protecting bron. But jey only gonna have the title for under 60 days as well probably not even that, because of what? The bloodline. It’s weird they gave him the title to use as a prop for the bloodline just so bron can get it back within little time
The people mad about Bron losing just don’t get it Jeys been in the WWE for forever. I think it’s a lot of newer fans who are mad because they don’t know the Usos history. They might have heard about it but they weren’t a kid like me in the early 2010s watching the Usos tag. This is Jeys first singles title ever and he’s getting a lot of money right now. Bron Breaker is gonna be just fine.
I feel like a lot of jeys fans just started coming around. People don’t know about pre singles jey & pre bloodline jey. It happens. & if that’s the case a lot of guys should have won because they were around for a long time but it didn’t happen to some of the guys who deserved it. My point is bron should have been handled better. Him taking 2 pins since July doesn’t sit right considering who’s presented as this unstoppable force. If u get my point then u do, if u don’t u don’t
@@Dporticus Exactly he just got his first big belt in the WWE and now to him Jey Uso isn’t on his level and takes it out from under him. Bron has to go on a warpath these next few weeks Im expecting him to finally just take Adam Pearce and chuck him into a wall or something 😂😂
First off I apologize for the essay. But, with all due respect, I've seen Jey from the beginning and I'm still not sold. Watching the Uso's go from face painted Samoans to "Day One Ish" was cringe. Watching the Uso's fake the gangta persona was cringe, and as fun as it may be to say "YEET"... It still makes me cringe considering how late into the Yeet meme they decided to bring this to WWE. And with all that aside, that's not even the reason I'm not sold on Jey. For me personally it's his moveset. I, along with a lot of people I speak with on wrestling all agree that Jey's moveset is extremely limited to Superkicks and default moves. Not to mention how he just took Romans Spear as his finisher instead of coming up with something more innovative/original. Bron Breaker just feels like more of a breakout star when it comes to actual wrestling. Jey however was just given a gimmick that's SUPER over. Not to mention that the gimmick wasn't even created by him. A lot of people forget to realize that Jimmy was the first to Yeet. Thus making Jimmy the original Yeeter of worlds. I still don't understand till this day why they took Jimmy's Yeet and gave the whole persona to Jey. Hope this explains the other half 👍
@@Strange_Da_Range I agree with most of what you said there I grew up with them face painted them got out of wrestling and got back into it in 2022. So I’ve missed a lot of character development there so I can’t speak on that. But what Jey does in the ring it’s a lot of superkicks, slap punches that don’t land and thigh slapping a lot on his kicks. If you gave Jey Uso a empty bag and drove him to Fort Knox and said if you have one match without slapping your thigh on a superkick you can walk in and take all the gold u want he’s coming out empty handed 😂😂 But the guy has the personality and charisma to carry off what he’s doing right now. Is the YEET meme old as hell and dumb when he says “catch a Yeetdown” yeah it is but he’s found a way to make a lot of money right now. His bank account ain’t complaining that it’s cringy. Bron Breaker is gonna now just have to absolutely destroy everything. If you thought what he was doing before was raising hell he’s gonna take that up to 150% Adam Pearce is getting fucked up definitely now he’s not just gonna stand there and say “Nooo stop” Bron is taking him and throwing him into a wall or something.
I don't hate it. Jey getting a big win and finally paying off his main event moniker, getting a title change on TV, playing into Bron's weakness that he's too cocky and lacks ring experience, and now freeing him up for maybe a main title picture. This feels like it's a lot of positives for the negative of a short reign for Bron, which I don't feel like hurts him too badly. Not every reign needs to be 6+months changing on a major ppv
Losing a match does not bury someone. Now we can build a story around Bron learning and getting better. I loved that they did this because they interjected uncertainty in their booking. AMAZING BOOKING.
What if Vince McMahon had booked this EXACT same thing? What would you be saying then? I bet you a million dollars you would hate it then and wouldn't be making the p!ssp00r excuses you're making.
It's not just the one loss. And the fact that you can't see the bigger picture here shows that you're more ignorant than any of the ones you complain about. His entire IC title run was horrendously booked.
I’ve got the reverse thing happening. Didn’t really like Jey before because he had no momentum but now with a singles title I’m excited for to see what’s coming.
Jey Uso EARNED this opportunity to finally be crowned the IC Champion. I’m a firm believer in your most over guys being rewarded for putting the work in and in this case, it works out for all parties You presented Bron like this dominant beast and his lack of trying to finish the job when he had the chance to, is what’s making him lose. He wanted to destroy Jey by putting him through a barricade and that is what led to his downfall. Bron is 26 years old and is CLEARLY the next top guy for the company, so for everyone saying he’s buried, take a breather and relax lol😭
I'm so glad something big happened on Raw. One reason I like AEW is that their weekly shows have big swings more often than WWE. It makes the non-PLE shows have more weight for me. Otherwise RAW and Smack Down just feel like buffer until actual shows
Both these guys come out of this bigger stars when they went in. Neither Bron nor Jey are in my list of favorites but this was really great television and a great match. Hopefully this was just the first chapter in what could be a feud that goes on for years.
I just subscribed I seen a couple of your videos. I love how you take a non biased opinion of the whole spectrum of wrestling and still stick to your opinions and don't think things should be different or change because it's not what you want. I respect that. I'm enjoying watching you experience going down this journey as my two younger kids are. I watch as many matches as I can with AEW. I watch as many promos as I can with WWE. They are both great and they are both pushing each other to improve on the mainstream. There's so much more that I can access now since I was a kid which makes me feel this might be the best era of wrestling. NJPW is where everyone really goes to actually prove themselves as legit quality wrestlers. Lucha wrestling has such a long and expansive history. The fact you dig into all of it is awesome. Thanks bruv!
Hey man, just want to recognize that your analysis is getting noticeably better. Your breakdown of Breakker's loss was really insightful. Keep it up; I'm loving your perspective.
For future opponents for Jey, I think we still have more fuel to burn with a Dominick Mysterio vs Jey Uso feud, with Jey needing to overcome the same gang tactics he used to employ in the bloodline. Bronson Reed clearly deserves to be in the title picture. Maybe after survivor series, due to a choice Jey makes, he starts getting targeted by the Wyatt 6 for hurting his family. I think you could have a really interesting program with any of these options and have a believable threat of Jey losing the title against them
Short title reigns need to happen for long reigns to matter. Wrestling greatly overcorrecred from the Attitude/Ruthless Agression era where titles changed too frequently. Now too many fans are conditioned to think a reign needs to be atleast 6 months to be 'good'
I would love to see them run it back at Bad Blood. Let Jey and Bron show their extreme side would be a great match and really set Jey up as a great singles start
My opinion: Bron didn’t get buried, it just made the Bron run lackluster… He lost to Zayn on first challenge, and now he’s barely defended it before losing to Jey Uso (who is somewhat of a comedy act)… Bron isn’t completely buried, he’s young and he’ll get his momentum back, but this hurts Bron more than it helps Jey (who is/was already over, while Bron is still trying to get over on that level) Also, would have meant more on a PPV + after Bron already had an established run with the title (I get the surprise element, but Bron needs to be booked stronger than others for his character)
It seems they arent building Bron to be an unstoppable beast, because he is already getting over with the audience, so they are doing a pivot and telling the story of him being overconfident, losing, going back to the drawing board, and learning from his mistakes. Which people could eventually get behind, when he goes for the world title. Maybe thats been his character since NXT if I think about it. *Edit: just finished the video and saw that someone mentioned Breakkers character flaws, so that confirms it for me. Yes, we get to watch him mature and i think thats a fantastic character to get behind.
As someone who has seen Jey Uso for all my time watching WWE, finally seeing him win a title of this value literally had me jumping for joy at 11pm at night. Bron is very young and could honestly win world titles before Jey, so I think Bron will be alright in terms of this loss. It’s satisfying seeing Cody, Knight, and Jey all win these singles titles after, it’s what the fans have all been begging for.
Interesting topic, it’s tough as a Jey fan he was going to have to start winning these individual titles at some point and that push always starts at that intercontinental title. Someone is always gonna be on the other end of the win and loss column and breaker will be back
I like Jey winning tbh But people calling him “buried” is because they don’t like Jey or don’t like how short the reign was (but then will complain about HHH only switching on Big 4 PLEs 🤷♂️)
I Just Don’t Believe What People Say On social media anymore, They will False say something in there own opinion on a topic and try to get Everyone chirping in saying the Same, I don’t Believe That Many People actually are upset at this
When u look at it as them using the title as a prop to get him back into the bloodline then it is actually a problem. Jey probably isn’t gonna have this title no more than 50 days just like bron until the bloodline come & cost him. If they are gonna do that (95% sure) then he didn’t need the title for it. I honestly would’ve been more happier if they did a fatal 4 way or something months back, that way u protect bron & jey wins the title. Seeing bron eat 2 pins in basically 2 months for a guy that’s presented as unstoppable is not a good look.
@Papellxhase Being unstoppable is not necessarily a good thing. It makes you superhuman, which is not relatable. By showing that he can be beat makes him more human and relatable and also shows how his arrogance is costing him opportunities because he underestimates everyone because he loses. It's all part of the character work imo
@@carpio531 well this early into his callup it does. Out of every nxt callup this year he’s had THE push. i think making him unbeatable for a year would have been amazing. But him taking 2 pins clean in 2 months is like?? Why? I look at breaker how I look at Gunther. An unstoppable force. & Gunther just lost his first main roster match after 2 years. That’s all
Thank you. I've heard this "WWE just buried [add name here]" so often I feel like the entire WWE roster got "buried" somewhere in their career. Well the entire roster except Roman Reigns who "got shoved down our throats" the majority of is career. A good chunk of the IWC seems to not having much patience and trust in storylines. Does WWE underutilize a good part of the roster? Yeah for shure! But like Austin Theory (who got "buried" after his unsuccessfull MITB cash-in), Bron has decades of time in the ring in his career left and I think both will be maineventers in some years. Losing the IC title is nothing like being buried, it is taking a run-up. He is still in his "rookie-phase". I even can see Jey being only a transitional champion, because he looses the title in the build towards Survivor Series due to the involvement of the new bloodline, giving him motivation siding with his family again.
Tbh, I think this is good for Bron's story. He's torn through the roster since his debut in NXT, he's thought himself unstoppable, and it goes to his head a lot. Maybe now that he's been knocked down a peg or two, it'll make him a bit smarter and overcome that arrogance. A few spear tackles and an Uso Splash will hopefully do the trick. I'm only disappointed that Sami didn't come out and sweep Jey up in a big ol' hug when he won.
People are hating it because people can be stupid. Honestly, this is stupid. You are 100% right, this is NOT a burial. Bron losing the title this soon was something of a surprise, but I don't even know that it should have been. The problem is we're just coming away from Roman having the WWE title for several years and Gunther having the IC title for a year plus so now I think some fans have it in their heads that every new guy needs a long title run of months to years to really establish themselves - they don't and Bron doesn't. We can see Bron will be a big part of WWE by what he's already done - he won the title in a few months, he's been destroying people. This is not a burial, he will be fine. On the other side, how long could they keep pushing Jey Uso and having him be as over as he is without giving him a title? Jey needed and deserves it. If Bron had held the title non-stop for another 6 months, the accusations would start that HHH books too many long title reigns and that would be the conversation. This is just a case of you can't please all of the people all of the time. I wasn't expecting Jay to win, but it makes sense and I don't hate it.
Some people legit just get mad about everything, and nobody knows what "buried" means anymore. Also some people cannot separate the fact they got worked from their critique of what is actually objectively happening. And actually 4:08 yep you 100 percent nailed it. Whether Bron is buried or not will depend on what he's doing after this. I also doubt that this feud between Bron and Jey is over. And when I first started watching, Jey and Jimmy were de facto dedicated tag guys. And if one of them stood out, it was *always* Jimmy. 2014 Striker would never have imagined this happening.
@@Algo1 I would be glad to if you didn't use overused pseudo-intellectual terms like "strawman". It doesn't make you sound smart. Go say it to your mom, maybe she'll call you a smart boy and give you a cookie.
There is one good argument I've seen against the change, which I partially but not entierly agree with. It's not specific to this case, but it's that all current main eventers are in their 40s or late 30s now. There’s a feeling that younger talents like Bron and Trick Williams need to be elevated quicker, so that they can start peaking in their physical prime, and then be legends in their 40s, like how things used to be. For example, Austin and Rock started peaking in their early 30s and late 20s respectively. The same ages Trick and Bron are now. The reason it's somewhat misleading is that wrestlers take care about their health much more now, so they can go longer. But I do agree that we should be going for younger talent when possible, to make sure there are legends for wrestlers 10 years from now to have great matches with.
I think that Bron got so many Lesner comparisons, that the company was slotting him into Brock's spot and giving him stories and rivalries originally intended for Brock. This got people in the headspace they should treat him as a Lesner level threat and of course Lesner would never lose to these people. People expected a Goldberg/Asuka style undefeated streak. WWE booked themselves into a corner with Jey, can't call a guy "main event" when he never wins anything. He needed a win and they aren't actually willing to give him a top level title or King of the Ring or a Rumble win or anything. So they had to sacrifice some of Bron's momentum to prove Jey isn't a mid-carder and finally give the fans some kind of payoff for supporting him so hard. I bet they give Jey the title for a while and he will have to prove to the company he could actually be a top guy at some point.
To your prompt about who might face Jey next (if no rematch with Bron)...I think a heel Xavier Woods. He's been seeking the same thing as Jey: Singles gold & glory to prove he's not just a tag specialist. We've been seeing an edge and viciousness emerge from Woods...what better, then, than to put him in an angle with a old and familiar rival over the Intercontinental Championship?
Like both of these wrestlers but Bron is still a rookie, long term storytelling if they go up against each other for the World Championship at Wreslemania and Bron ends up beating Jey for the revenge.
Generalizing here, but most people who don't like Jey Uso are part of the "work rate" corner of the internet wrestling community. Anyone who doesn't have "good" matches will generally not be looked upon favorably. Most of that crowd does not like Jey's ring work, so it's tough for him to win them over. The Bron Breakker aspect to this is, again generalizing, people being afraid that his momentum will be killed by losing matches. I don't think that's the case really because there's storytelling in his matches that explain how he he doesn't just run through everyone. He's inexperienced and arrogant and those things sometimes costs him in matches. The arrogance cost him the match on Monday. The other part to this, and this is just my opinion, is that most of the time wrestlers who are booked to flatten the roster aren't actually good. The aura around them is what makes it work. I don't think we have much to worry about with Breakker. This isn't like Goldberg or something, he's a lot better.
I’m happy for Jey but sad for Bron. He just got the title, had 1 successful defense and then lost it. I just wish he had a better first main roster title reign
The only thing that even mildly disappointed me about Jey winning was that I fully expected Jimmy "You can't win without me" Uso to make an appearance to screw Jey. Besides that, I could not be happier for the dude. You pretty much hit all the big points. Jey deserves it, Bron is young, it tells a story. Side note...I love that this got people's attention that weekly shows can have big things happen. I havent had this much fun watching wrestling in years! Keep up the great reactions!❤
No I don't think Bron got buried... Now I would have liked to see Bron hold on to that title a little longer... I would have also liked to have seen Jey with the heavy weight title instead of the IC title... I think he deserves a title with more prestige... All in All I'm happy Jey finally got a singles title...
I made the joke in one of my chats that Jey moved so much yeet merch this past week that they had to put the belt on him 😆. But i was hype for Jey. I was on my feet for the next half hour. He deserves it. It's so great it happened on raw too. I saw an insane amount of comments saying Jey wasn't going to win laying too to this match. My whole attitude of "they can't lose the title because it isn't a PLE" changed when i told my wife Cody and Jey wouldn't lose the tag titles the Monday after they won them... then i was sitting there slackjawed when they lost and held those titles for 3 days 😆.
ill start off by saying im a fan of both jey and bron. i think the people who are upset over bron losing are newer fans or people who just don’t understand pro wrestling. bron has consistently been put in a prominent role on tv since his call up. hell they gave him the most prestigious secondary title in his first year. plus, as you mentioned, bron was given a bit of an out. he underestimated his opponent, belittling jey in a backstage interview and even opting for pushups instead of following through with a pin mid match. this to me feels similar to the story they told with sami and bron where bron underestimated sami only to come back and destroy him and take the ic title. if i had the pen i would’ve kept the title on bron but im not upset with jey winning. he’s been in the company for a long time and he’s super over. it could be argued that jey didn’t need any title because of how over he was but i digress. jey’s win was a special moment and im happy for him and jey fans. there’s a part of me that also thinks they wanted shut rikishi up lol. i don’t think jey’s title reign will last very long, as i mentioned before this feels similar to the sami and bron story. i think bron will eventually come back, run through jey, and get the title back. again this isn’t necessarily what i want to happen but since the company gave jey the title, i predict that’s the path they’ll take. long term, i kind of want to see sheamus and bron for the title at wm. it would obviously be a kick ass match and i’d have sheamus get the victory, finally winning his first ic title. if bron doesn’t get back the title that’s ok, i think either way he’ll be a world champion by the end of next year. bron’s a badass he’ll be fine.
Bron will be FINE. If people think he's not going to get his heat right back next week they're kidding themselves. This is a big deal since it breaks the streak of every title reign "needing" to be long and drawn out and it presents the idea that a title can change hands on Raw, not just a big 4 PLE. Bron's 26, been on the Main roster for 6 months and has already accomplished a ton. He'll be a world champ before anyone knows it.
I feel like Jacob Fatu will get the belt from Jey since Solo made him give up his tag team belt. It was bittersweet though, i love both jey and bron so i wanted jey to get his belt but i also wanted bron to have held it and defended it longer.
I'm only sad because I pictured something and it didn't happen. At this point I hope it happens in the rematch. Jimmy coming in and helping Jey win. Maybe Jey is injured and he's getting whooped. He's getting pinned when suddenly a hooded Jimmy forces a rope break. Then the referee gets knocked down and Jey scolds Jimmy because he doesn't want his help, he doesn't need it. Jimmy responds with a superkick and Jey dodges and it hits the actual opponent. Than Jey caves it's stereo superkick into 1D into the pin and title retain. Episode ends with the face-off. And it's a weird face off because Jey is pissed but grateful? It opens up so many scenarios and it makes the Bloodline Wargames everyone wants so much more interesting.
Bron can always win it back. Let Jey have his moment. Stuff like this makes the show fun to watch because anything can happen. Championships can change hands at any time. I don't want every title run to be 6 months to a year.
I think people are just used to the 2010s when someone would piss off Vince so he'd make them lose their title and then just bury them for no reason. This isn't the same era people. Bron will be okay. I personally am happy for Jey winning the title and I'm glad we're bringing back shorter title reigns and better weekly show matches rather than saving them for wrestlemania and summerslam.
i don’t love jey uso as much as some but i’m glad he FINALLY won some singles gold after being called “main event” for so long. however, i wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped the title back to bron sooner rather than later. if that happens, then i’ll be annoyed that he won. if bron couldn’t hold it long, then hopefully jey will have a lengthy reign with some fun defenses in his stead. maybe even defending it against sami at a ple? i don’t know, i just hope this reign isn’t as bland and short as bron’s was for me.
I think a bigger misstep than Bron losing to Jey was Bron beating Sami however many months after Sami beat Gunther because I felt like it devalued that victory. At Mania 40 Gunther came of the longest and most dominant IC title run of all time, and so when the person who will beat him eventually does his run will be a though act to follow. I think Sami should’ve held the belt for a year and lost at Mania 41. That said, I do think WWE giving Bron a big push is the right call. He’s a talented performer who has the ability to be a big star in the company, which is why I think he should’ve been in the Money in The Bank ladder match and won the briefcase. That way Bron can have has big push and Sami’s credibility isn’t sacrificed a little bit.
The people mad at Jey winning are either only being performative to get reactions or because they are shortsighted and think this will actually bury Bron. Jey is way too over to not eventually win. It’s his time now and it’s been his time for a while. There’s PLENTY of time for Bron to win a title and have a lengthy, dominant run. He’s been booked way too well and I’m sure creative has an idea to get his momentum back and propel his story forward. His time will come.
I think people are more upset that Bron’s title reign was so short as opposed to Jey winning the title. That being said, I am in the camp that thinks it was a good move to give Jey the title.
Individuals in online fandoms usually get loud like this when unhappy and quiet when satisfied, so I don’t think opinions are changing on Jey. People are basically trying to debate their individual preference on twitter because they know Triple H reads twitter. 😂 I’m neutral on it all. While I enjoy Bron much more than Jey, I liked the surprise title change on Raw as it makes future matches less of foregone conclusions. I also like to see more variety in title reign length's, so this is good. I've also heard from trusted dirtsheets (wrestlepurist) that Triple H is extremely high on Bron, so I'm not concerned in the slightest for him.
We do like Jey. This moment was AMAZING!!!!!! Definitely a minority. I think Bron is getting more character development. As you said, it's definitely shades of Sami's match with him. I think Bron is working his character very well with the getting overconfident and showboating 'causing him to lose. I think he gets a rematch with Jey and takes him seriously and gets the title back. Either way I popped for this and I'm happy for Jey to show up at Roman like, "well, well, well..."
I don‘t understand how Bron is supposed to be buried. Bron (who just got called up to MR) just lost to arguably one of the most over guys in the company, thats totally okay! This can be a start to a great feud! Maybe Jay defends and Bron wins the rubber match (that would free Jay for Bloodline stuff). That would be such a good story! Just chill, let us wait were this story goes…
I don’t hate it. I get people feel Bron was a good fit as IC champion, but if WWE didn’t finally give Jey a major W it was going to cost the fans behind him. He needed a W like LA Knight needed the US title. Bron is like 26-27, he’ll clearly get the title back and go beyond that. He’s got so much time ahead of him. Jey needed this right now to take advantage of how hot he is with the fans.
I don’t think you’re confused. This is in no way a burial of Bron. Everyone saying that will forget about it in about a month. It’s not like they’re just going to forgot about Bron and let him sit in catering lol. They’ve got plans for him, like you said.
I’m not mad. I’m just very cautious, many times before we seen someone very popular and beloved get a title for a big moment and proceed to get nothing with it after.
"Whats the problem here? I thought we liked Jay" Welcome to the Internet, my friend. Most "fans" are only fans of the underdog trope. Once someone is proven to no longer be the underdog, most of the cynical "fans" begin to say that the formerly underdog wrestler sucks or is burying people.
Honestly, I didn’t see a lot of “omg they buried Bron” on my socials so I wonder if it’s just the algorithm. I DID see a lot of ppl who thought Jey would lose (like me I admit), so maybe that is why the swing in the other direction was so drastic. Ppl don’t like their expectations upended, which is why you saw extreme joy (me) or extreme disappointment. Bron will be fine, he’s young, he’s cocky, he’s got the right look and his character is probably like a lot of those clickbait articles that say….oh his run will be as long as Gunther’s.
This idea of Loss = Burial needs to be the concept that is buried to the point of not being mentioned again if we're talking about WWE and Triple Hs booking. It's a stupid train of thought that one of the most over guys in WWE, who's got that DAWG in him, gets buried after a title match against another most over guy in the game. This match took nothing off of Bron except for that title and he's going to get it back probably sooner than we expect. In fact if Jey hadn't won, it's his momentum which probably would have been stifled since the narrative has become for a long time that while Jey says he's Main Event, he hasn't actually accomplished anything on the level of Main Event to label himself so. This match win helped Jey while not taking anything off of Bron. If anything Bron is going to be even more intense going forwards and I can not wait for that.
I don't have an issue but Seems like he was a transitional champion. Got the title, just so he could drop it to someone new. Can't judge a story till it's complete though. Maybe brekker will get the title back. Maybe he goes for a world title instead.
Yeah, that was a weird reaction and I tried to understand what's going on. I've noticed two groups on X hating on Jey's win. - People posting ahead of the match that Jey will lose for sure, trying to act all smart. - Roman/ Bloodline fanatics. Maybe they want Jey to join Roman and see this title reign as a setback, maybe they don't like that Jey has a title while Roman does not.
I only think it's a bad decision because I'm not a fan of the current Jey Uso character. I didn't want this version to win singles gold. He needed to come back with Jimmy and win some tag team gold.
I know a lot of people are going to hate my take but its a step down for the belt and to early for Brawn to lose the belt Jay ant over Yeet is over i wish the Usos where back together WWE need more good tag teams that people care about and since they want to split the New Day it seems i think his skills are better served in the tag division but that is just me tho
I love that Jey got a moment. The timing seems a little weird given Bron didn't have a long reign. However, what I think is that this is part of the bigger Bloodline story. They will cause him to lose the title during the rematch which will give him an incentive to join up with Roman for the Bloodline Civil War at Survivor Series in November. Am I cookin or naw?
"People have become accustomed to long championship reigns in recent years, so they are often surprised when something different happens. LeBron will likely be fine and may become a future world champion. Another factor is that social media amplifies victories and losses to another level."
I think the IWC already had a distain for Jey and think that he is mid in the ring. (his moveset is a little reptitive tbf) So thats why ur seeing internet dwellers be so mad about this. Its undeniable how over Jey is and how likeable he was in this match as an underdog. yeet
Welcome to the wrestling fandom, they always bitch despite begging for jey to get this moment they're now upset They were just complaining about trips being too predictable with the long reigns, now 50 days is too short Etc etc Vocal monority
he is not a good wrestler and not an interesting character he has his momentum like months ago and ending short breakker reign for just a moment is just silly
Triple H is absolutely insidious for what he is doing. They don't call him the Cerebral Assassin for nothing. I have never seen someone manipulate the fans so much into thinking they're watching gold when it's actually dirt. The falling ratings every week are proving that. The ONLY fans who love HHH's booking are internet marks. Normal people couldn't care less.
Vocal minority online. Internet wrestling fans tend to contrarians who get behind wrestlers who seem to be overlooked by the higher ups despite their talent and turn on them as soon as they start rising up the card.
The problem with Bron losing by underestimating his opponent is that as you said, this is a continual thing that he does. He did it at least twice in NXT, he did it with Zane, and then again he did it with Jey. Every time he gains the momentum he loses, and it's not character development to learn the same lesson over and over again, he just looks like an idiot. I personally am very happy for Jey and I think he deserves it, but just think it's unfortunate that it came at Bron's expense. If this was the direction they wanted to go I think it would have been better for everybody is Jey won it off of Sammy, and kept Bron away from the belt until it was his time.
Probably gonna lose it at crown jewel bc i think temu bloodline cost him AND sami the titles which brings them back to the story and we can get bloodline civil war games
It was the right time to give Jey Uso the title. Will Bron get it back? Maybe he will. But just look at the youtube views of Jeys title win and just look how over he is. It just was the right time and Im a big Bron Breakker fan. He didnt get buried at all. He came to Raw, became IC Champ within a few months. Defeated Sami Zayn, destroyed everyone else and in his loss against Jey Uso, he didnt take him that seriously in the beginning and Jey Uso hit a few spears, superkicks and two Uso Splashs to beat him... Also: if Bron Breakker would have defeated Sami Zayn in the first match and also would have defeated Jey Uso maybe we would have got the next "Roman Reigns Problem" where many fans maybe would not accept the next big thing.... About Rikishi... He will now start complaining that Jey Uso should be World, not IC Champ hahaha
there is an extremely toxic side to wrestling fans, a lot of these bad faith takes are mainly for engagement. Always make your own opinions and thats all that matters.
And how exactly are you better? You know what's really sad? People like you who go on random youtube videos and have to position themselves above others like this to make yourself feel superior. I bet a million dollars you haven't accomplished a single thing in your life and this is the only thing you have.
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People have different opinions on Jey. Not everyone is a huge fan. Some people have always thought he’s mid and others might take exception to Breakker losing the title so fast
Personally, I like that Bron loses unexpectedly to veterans like this. The story is that he’s still a rookie and his arrogance is his weakness. It leaves a lot of room for character development which is convenient because his push should be a longer game.
My thing is bron already ate a pin 2 months ago. Which didn’t need to happen. Seeing him take yet another pin, 2 pins in 2 & a half months despite being presented as an unstoppable monster isn’t a good look. There should’ve been a fatal 4 way or something months ago & jey could’ve won all while protecting bron. But jey only gonna have the title for under 60 days as well probably not even that, because of what? The bloodline. It’s weird they gave him the title to use as a prop for the bloodline just so bron can get it back within little time
@@Papellxhase He's not really presented as an unstoppable monster - he's been stopped twice lol
@@philosofictionshis deal is that he's the hungry young rookie who learns from his L's. Don't be surprised if he wins it back relatively soon.
@@Papellxhase”protecting a wrestler” shouldn’t mean they literally always win. He can drop one here and there
Triple H mark.
The people mad about Bron losing just don’t get it Jeys been in the WWE for forever. I think it’s a lot of newer fans who are mad because they don’t know the Usos history. They might have heard about it but they weren’t a kid like me in the early 2010s watching the Usos tag. This is Jeys first singles title ever and he’s getting a lot of money right now. Bron Breaker is gonna be just fine.
I feel like a lot of jeys fans just started coming around. People don’t know about pre singles jey & pre bloodline jey. It happens. & if that’s the case a lot of guys should have won because they were around for a long time but it didn’t happen to some of the guys who deserved it. My point is bron should have been handled better. Him taking 2 pins since July doesn’t sit right considering who’s presented as this unstoppable force. If u get my point then u do, if u don’t u don’t
I expect this is only going to make Bron more interesting
@@Dporticus Exactly he just got his first big belt in the WWE and now to him Jey Uso isn’t on his level and takes it out from under him. Bron has to go on a warpath these next few weeks Im expecting him to finally just take Adam Pearce and chuck him into a wall or something 😂😂
First off I apologize for the essay. But, with all due respect, I've seen Jey from the beginning and I'm still not sold. Watching the Uso's go from face painted Samoans to "Day One Ish" was cringe. Watching the Uso's fake the gangta persona was cringe, and as fun as it may be to say "YEET"... It still makes me cringe considering how late into the Yeet meme they decided to bring this to WWE.
And with all that aside, that's not even the reason I'm not sold on Jey. For me personally it's his moveset. I, along with a lot of people I speak with on wrestling all agree that Jey's moveset is extremely limited to Superkicks and default moves. Not to mention how he just took Romans Spear as his finisher instead of coming up with something more innovative/original.
Bron Breaker just feels like more of a breakout star when it comes to actual wrestling. Jey however was just given a gimmick that's SUPER over. Not to mention that the gimmick wasn't even created by him. A lot of people forget to realize that Jimmy was the first to Yeet. Thus making Jimmy the original Yeeter of worlds. I still don't understand till this day why they took Jimmy's Yeet and gave the whole persona to Jey. Hope this explains the other half 👍
@@Strange_Da_Range I agree with most of what you said there I grew up with them face painted them got out of wrestling and got back into it in 2022. So I’ve missed a lot of character development there so I can’t speak on that. But what Jey does in the ring it’s a lot of superkicks, slap punches that don’t land and thigh slapping a lot on his kicks. If you gave Jey Uso a empty bag and drove him to Fort Knox and said if you have one match without slapping your thigh on a superkick you can walk in and take all the gold u want he’s coming out empty handed 😂😂 But the guy has the personality and charisma to carry off what he’s doing right now. Is the YEET meme old as hell and dumb when he says “catch a Yeetdown” yeah it is but he’s found a way to make a lot of money right now. His bank account ain’t complaining that it’s cringy. Bron Breaker is gonna now just have to absolutely destroy everything. If you thought what he was doing before was raising hell he’s gonna take that up to 150% Adam Pearce is getting fucked up definitely now he’s not just gonna stand there and say “Nooo stop” Bron is taking him and throwing him into a wall or something.
I don't hate it. Jey getting a big win and finally paying off his main event moniker, getting a title change on TV, playing into Bron's weakness that he's too cocky and lacks ring experience, and now freeing him up for maybe a main title picture. This feels like it's a lot of positives for the negative of a short reign for Bron, which I don't feel like hurts him too badly. Not every reign needs to be 6+months changing on a major ppv
People saying, "wwe buried Bron breakker..."
Wrong!... YOU are burying Bron Breakker
A wrestler can only be buried if the company treats him like he is. They obviously have huge plans for him, so this loss doesn’t affect him one bit.
Losing a match does not bury someone. Now we can build a story around Bron learning and getting better. I loved that they did this because they interjected uncertainty in their booking. AMAZING BOOKING.
So true. I 100% agree
Pathetic Triple H mark.
What if Vince McMahon had booked this EXACT same thing? What would you be saying then? I bet you a million dollars you would hate it then and wouldn't be making the p!ssp00r excuses you're making.
Sometimes I wish wrestling fans didn't know insider terms. Just after one loss then they use the term "buried"🤦♂
It's not just the one loss. And the fact that you can't see the bigger picture here shows that you're more ignorant than any of the ones you complain about. His entire IC title run was horrendously booked.
I’ve got the reverse thing happening. Didn’t really like Jey before because he had no momentum but now with a singles title I’m excited for to see what’s coming.
I was less interested when the yeet gimmick started but it grew on me
@@Dporticus same
More of these short form videos commenting on story developments you’re interested in would be fun. Great content
Yes this comment please short form videos of developments there easier to watch and like seeing your reactions to things that happen like this
Jey Uso EARNED this opportunity to finally be crowned the IC Champion. I’m a firm believer in your most over guys being rewarded for putting the work in and in this case, it works out for all parties
You presented Bron like this dominant beast and his lack of trying to finish the job when he had the chance to, is what’s making him lose.
He wanted to destroy Jey by putting him through a barricade and that is what led to his downfall. Bron is 26 years old and is CLEARLY the next top guy for the company, so for everyone saying he’s buried, take a breather and relax lol😭
I'm so glad something big happened on Raw. One reason I like AEW is that their weekly shows have big swings more often than WWE. It makes the non-PLE shows have more weight for me. Otherwise RAW and Smack Down just feel like buffer until actual shows
Both these guys come out of this bigger stars when they went in. Neither Bron nor Jey are in my list of favorites but this was really great television and a great match. Hopefully this was just the first chapter in what could be a feud that goes on for years.
I just subscribed I seen a couple of your videos. I love how you take a non biased opinion of the whole spectrum of wrestling and still stick to your opinions and don't think things should be different or change because it's not what you want. I respect that. I'm enjoying watching you experience going down this journey as my two younger kids are.
I watch as many matches as I can with AEW. I watch as many promos as I can with WWE. They are both great and they are both pushing each other to improve on the mainstream. There's so much more that I can access now since I was a kid which makes me feel this might be the best era of wrestling. NJPW is where everyone really goes to actually prove themselves as legit quality wrestlers. Lucha wrestling has such a long and expansive history.
The fact you dig into all of it is awesome. Thanks bruv!
Hey man, just want to recognize that your analysis is getting noticeably better. Your breakdown of Breakker's loss was really insightful. Keep it up; I'm loving your perspective.
For future opponents for Jey, I think we still have more fuel to burn with a Dominick Mysterio vs Jey Uso feud, with Jey needing to overcome the same gang tactics he used to employ in the bloodline. Bronson Reed clearly deserves to be in the title picture. Maybe after survivor series, due to a choice Jey makes, he starts getting targeted by the Wyatt 6 for hurting his family. I think you could have a really interesting program with any of these options and have a believable threat of Jey losing the title against them
Short title reigns need to happen for long reigns to matter. Wrestling greatly overcorrecred from the Attitude/Ruthless Agression era where titles changed too frequently. Now too many fans are conditioned to think a reign needs to be atleast 6 months to be 'good'
I would love to see them run it back at Bad Blood. Let Jey and Bron show their extreme side would be a great match and really set Jey up as a great singles start
"Run it back". Jesus...
My opinion: Bron didn’t get buried, it just made the Bron run lackluster…
He lost to Zayn on first challenge, and now he’s barely defended it before losing to Jey Uso (who is somewhat of a comedy act)…
Bron isn’t completely buried, he’s young and he’ll get his momentum back, but this hurts Bron more than it helps Jey (who is/was already over, while Bron is still trying to get over on that level)
Also, would have meant more on a PPV + after Bron already had an established run with the title (I get the surprise element, but Bron needs to be booked stronger than others for his character)
FInally someone with a brain who's not worshiping Triple H.
Braun put on one hell of a match though I don’t think it buried him to a point where it’s bad but Jey’s solo championship was LONGG awaited
It seems they arent building Bron to be an unstoppable beast, because he is already getting over with the audience, so they are doing a pivot and telling the story of him being overconfident, losing, going back to the drawing board, and learning from his mistakes. Which people could eventually get behind, when he goes for the world title. Maybe thats been his character since NXT if I think about it.
*Edit: just finished the video and saw that someone mentioned Breakkers character flaws, so that confirms it for me. Yes, we get to watch him mature and i think thats a fantastic character to get behind.
Its always like this. Most big decisions like this create some sort of controversy. Give it a week and it'll be all good
As someone who has seen Jey Uso for all my time watching WWE, finally seeing him win a title of this value literally had me jumping for joy at 11pm at night. Bron is very young and could honestly win world titles before Jey, so I think Bron will be alright in terms of this loss. It’s satisfying seeing Cody, Knight, and Jey all win these singles titles after, it’s what the fans have all been begging for.
Interesting topic, it’s tough as a Jey fan he was going to have to start winning these individual titles at some point and that push always starts at that intercontinental title. Someone is always gonna be on the other end of the win and loss column and breaker will be back
I like Jey winning tbh
But people calling him “buried” is because they don’t like Jey or don’t like how short the reign was (but then will complain about HHH only switching on Big 4 PLEs 🤷♂️)
I Just Don’t Believe What People Say On social media anymore, They will False say something in there own opinion on a topic and try to get Everyone chirping in saying the Same, I don’t Believe That Many People actually are upset at this
When u look at it as them using the title as a prop to get him back into the bloodline then it is actually a problem. Jey probably isn’t gonna have this title no more than 50 days just like bron until the bloodline come & cost him. If they are gonna do that (95% sure) then he didn’t need the title for it. I honestly would’ve been more happier if they did a fatal 4 way or something months back, that way u protect bron & jey wins the title. Seeing bron eat 2 pins in basically 2 months for a guy that’s presented as unstoppable is not a good look.
@Papellxhase Being unstoppable is not necessarily a good thing. It makes you superhuman, which is not relatable. By showing that he can be beat makes him more human and relatable and also shows how his arrogance is costing him opportunities because he underestimates everyone because he loses. It's all part of the character work imo
@@carpio531 well this early into his callup it does. Out of every nxt callup this year he’s had THE push. i think making him unbeatable for a year would have been amazing. But him taking 2 pins clean in 2 months is like?? Why? I look at breaker how I look at Gunther. An unstoppable force. & Gunther just lost his first main roster match after 2 years. That’s all
Thank you.
I've heard this "WWE just buried [add name here]" so often I feel like the entire WWE roster got "buried" somewhere in their career. Well the entire roster except Roman Reigns who "got shoved down our throats" the majority of is career.
A good chunk of the IWC seems to not having much patience and trust in storylines. Does WWE underutilize a good part of the roster? Yeah for shure!
But like Austin Theory (who got "buried" after his unsuccessfull MITB cash-in), Bron has decades of time in the ring in his career left and I think both will be maineventers in some years. Losing the IC title is nothing like being buried, it is taking a run-up. He is still in his "rookie-phase".
I even can see Jey being only a transitional champion, because he looses the title in the build towards Survivor Series due to the involvement of the new bloodline, giving him motivation siding with his family again.
I think bron should of held the title a little bit longer. But jey deserved it.
Tbh, I think this is good for Bron's story. He's torn through the roster since his debut in NXT, he's thought himself unstoppable, and it goes to his head a lot. Maybe now that he's been knocked down a peg or two, it'll make him a bit smarter and overcome that arrogance. A few spear tackles and an Uso Splash will hopefully do the trick. I'm only disappointed that Sami didn't come out and sweep Jey up in a big ol' hug when he won.
People are hating it because people can be stupid. Honestly, this is stupid. You are 100% right, this is NOT a burial. Bron losing the title this soon was something of a surprise, but I don't even know that it should have been. The problem is we're just coming away from Roman having the WWE title for several years and Gunther having the IC title for a year plus so now I think some fans have it in their heads that every new guy needs a long title run of months to years to really establish themselves - they don't and Bron doesn't. We can see Bron will be a big part of WWE by what he's already done - he won the title in a few months, he's been destroying people. This is not a burial, he will be fine. On the other side, how long could they keep pushing Jey Uso and having him be as over as he is without giving him a title? Jey needed and deserves it.
If Bron had held the title non-stop for another 6 months, the accusations would start that HHH books too many long title reigns and that would be the conversation.
This is just a case of you can't please all of the people all of the time. I wasn't expecting Jay to win, but it makes sense and I don't hate it.
Some people legit just get mad about everything, and nobody knows what "buried" means anymore. Also some people cannot separate the fact they got worked from their critique of what is actually objectively happening. And actually 4:08 yep you 100 percent nailed it.
Whether Bron is buried or not will depend on what he's doing after this. I also doubt that this feud between Bron and Jey is over.
And when I first started watching, Jey and Jimmy were de facto dedicated tag guys. And if one of them stood out, it was *always* Jimmy. 2014 Striker would never have imagined this happening.
Yeah.
The only proper bury I can think of is R-Truth in early NWA-TNA. From 2 times Champion to absolute nothingness.
Bron's entire run was horrible. You are a blind Triple H mark like every other one.
@@James-if3kc arguments to back that up?
I only read an ad hominem-strawman kinda thing
@@Algo1 I would be glad to if you didn't use overused pseudo-intellectual terms like "strawman". It doesn't make you sound smart. Go say it to your mom, maybe she'll call you a smart boy and give you a cookie.
@@James-if3kc logic and fallacy terms are 10th grade level, at most.
Yeah Bron is slowly becoming one of my favorites but yeah this might be one of my favorite moments since getting back into wrestling
There is one good argument I've seen against the change, which I partially but not entierly agree with. It's not specific to this case, but it's that all current main eventers are in their 40s or late 30s now. There’s a feeling that younger talents like Bron and Trick Williams need to be elevated quicker, so that they can start peaking in their physical prime, and then be legends in their 40s, like how things used to be. For example, Austin and Rock started peaking in their early 30s and late 20s respectively. The same ages Trick and Bron are now. The reason it's somewhat misleading is that wrestlers take care about their health much more now, so they can go longer. But I do agree that we should be going for younger talent when possible, to make sure there are legends for wrestlers 10 years from now to have great matches with.
I think that Bron got so many Lesner comparisons, that the company was slotting him into Brock's spot and giving him stories and rivalries originally intended for Brock.
This got people in the headspace they should treat him as a Lesner level threat and of course Lesner would never lose to these people. People expected a Goldberg/Asuka style undefeated streak.
WWE booked themselves into a corner with Jey, can't call a guy "main event" when he never wins anything. He needed a win and they aren't actually willing to give him a top level title or King of the Ring or a Rumble win or anything. So they had to sacrifice some of Bron's momentum to prove Jey isn't a mid-carder and finally give the fans some kind of payoff for supporting him so hard.
I bet they give Jey the title for a while and he will have to prove to the company he could actually be a top guy at some point.
Trying to understand the IWCs outrage and short sightedness is gonna be a tough nut to crack lol
true
To your prompt about who might face Jey next (if no rematch with Bron)...I think a heel Xavier Woods. He's been seeking the same thing as Jey: Singles gold & glory to prove he's not just a tag specialist. We've been seeing an edge and viciousness emerge from Woods...what better, then, than to put him in an angle with a old and familiar rival over the Intercontinental Championship?
Like both of these wrestlers but Bron is still a rookie, long term storytelling if they go up against each other for the World Championship at Wreslemania and Bron ends up beating Jey for the revenge.
Generalizing here, but most people who don't like Jey Uso are part of the "work rate" corner of the internet wrestling community. Anyone who doesn't have "good" matches will generally not be looked upon favorably. Most of that crowd does not like Jey's ring work, so it's tough for him to win them over.
The Bron Breakker aspect to this is, again generalizing, people being afraid that his momentum will be killed by losing matches. I don't think that's the case really because there's storytelling in his matches that explain how he he doesn't just run through everyone. He's inexperienced and arrogant and those things sometimes costs him in matches. The arrogance cost him the match on Monday. The other part to this, and this is just my opinion, is that most of the time wrestlers who are booked to flatten the roster aren't actually good. The aura around them is what makes it work. I don't think we have much to worry about with Breakker. This isn't like Goldberg or something, he's a lot better.
I’m happy for Jey but sad for Bron. He just got the title, had 1 successful defense and then lost it. I just wish he had a better first main roster title reign
Loved this❤
The only thing that even mildly disappointed me about Jey winning was that I fully expected Jimmy "You can't win without me" Uso to make an appearance to screw Jey. Besides that, I could not be happier for the dude. You pretty much hit all the big points. Jey deserves it, Bron is young, it tells a story.
Side note...I love that this got people's attention that weekly shows can have big things happen. I havent had this much fun watching wrestling in years! Keep up the great reactions!❤
@@axisjack7 thanks! And I totally agree. I love that they showed titles CAN move on mondays
No I don't think Bron got buried... Now I would have liked to see Bron hold on to that title a little longer... I would have also liked to have seen Jey with the heavy weight title instead of the IC title... I think he deserves a title with more prestige... All in All I'm happy Jey finally got a singles title...
I made the joke in one of my chats that Jey moved so much yeet merch this past week that they had to put the belt on him 😆. But i was hype for Jey. I was on my feet for the next half hour. He deserves it. It's so great it happened on raw too. I saw an insane amount of comments saying Jey wasn't going to win laying too to this match. My whole attitude of "they can't lose the title because it isn't a PLE" changed when i told my wife Cody and Jey wouldn't lose the tag titles the Monday after they won them... then i was sitting there slackjawed when they lost and held those titles for 3 days 😆.
ill start off by saying im a fan of both jey and bron. i think the people who are upset over bron losing are newer fans or people who just don’t understand pro wrestling. bron has consistently been put in a prominent role on tv since his call up. hell they gave him the most prestigious secondary title in his first year. plus, as you mentioned, bron was given a bit of an out. he underestimated his opponent, belittling jey in a backstage interview and even opting for pushups instead of following through with a pin mid match. this to me feels similar to the story they told with sami and bron where bron underestimated sami only to come back and destroy him and take the ic title.
if i had the pen i would’ve kept the title on bron but im not upset with jey winning. he’s been in the company for a long time and he’s super over. it could be argued that jey didn’t need any title because of how over he was but i digress. jey’s win was a special moment and im happy for him and jey fans.
there’s a part of me that also thinks they wanted shut rikishi up lol.
i don’t think jey’s title reign will last very long, as i mentioned before this feels similar to the sami and bron story. i think bron will eventually come back, run through jey, and get the title back. again this isn’t necessarily what i want to happen but since the company gave jey the title, i predict that’s the path they’ll take. long term, i kind of want to see sheamus and bron for the title at wm. it would obviously be a kick ass match and i’d have sheamus get the victory, finally winning his first ic title.
if bron doesn’t get back the title that’s ok, i think either way he’ll be a world champion by the end of next year. bron’s a badass he’ll be fine.
I’m happy for Jey. While I’m gutted that Bron didn’t get a run with the title it possibly may be because he might be going to the world title picture.
Bron will be FINE. If people think he's not going to get his heat right back next week they're kidding themselves. This is a big deal since it breaks the streak of every title reign "needing" to be long and drawn out and it presents the idea that a title can change hands on Raw, not just a big 4 PLE. Bron's 26, been on the Main roster for 6 months and has already accomplished a ton. He'll be a world champ before anyone knows it.
I feel like Jacob Fatu will get the belt from Jey since Solo made him give up his tag team belt. It was bittersweet though, i love both jey and bron so i wanted jey to get his belt but i also wanted bron to have held it and defended it longer.
I'm only sad because I pictured something and it didn't happen. At this point I hope it happens in the rematch.
Jimmy coming in and helping Jey win. Maybe Jey is injured and he's getting whooped. He's getting pinned when suddenly a hooded Jimmy forces a rope break. Then the referee gets knocked down and Jey scolds Jimmy because he doesn't want his help, he doesn't need it. Jimmy responds with a superkick and Jey dodges and it hits the actual opponent. Than Jey caves it's stereo superkick into 1D into the pin and title retain. Episode ends with the face-off. And it's a weird face off because Jey is pissed but grateful? It opens up so many scenarios and it makes the Bloodline Wargames everyone wants so much more interesting.
In My opinion This was the right call Bron is Young and has plenty of time to win championships
Bron can always win it back. Let Jey have his moment. Stuff like this makes the show fun to watch because anything can happen. Championships can change hands at any time. I don't want every title run to be 6 months to a year.
I think people are just used to the 2010s when someone would piss off Vince so he'd make them lose their title and then just bury them for no reason. This isn't the same era people. Bron will be okay. I personally am happy for Jey winning the title and I'm glad we're bringing back shorter title reigns and better weekly show matches rather than saving them for wrestlemania and summerslam.
i don’t love jey uso as much as some but i’m glad he FINALLY won some singles gold after being called “main event” for so long. however, i wouldn’t be surprised if he dropped the title back to bron sooner rather than later. if that happens, then i’ll be annoyed that he won. if bron couldn’t hold it long, then hopefully jey will have a lengthy reign with some fun defenses in his stead. maybe even defending it against sami at a ple? i don’t know, i just hope this reign isn’t as bland and short as bron’s was for me.
I think a bigger misstep than Bron losing to Jey was Bron beating Sami however many months after Sami beat Gunther because I felt like it devalued that victory. At Mania 40 Gunther came of the longest and most dominant IC title run of all time, and so when the person who will beat him eventually does his run will be a though act to follow. I think Sami should’ve held the belt for a year and lost at Mania 41. That said, I do think WWE giving Bron a big push is the right call. He’s a talented performer who has the ability to be a big star in the company, which is why I think he should’ve been in the Money in The Bank ladder match and won the briefcase. That way Bron can have has big push and Sami’s credibility isn’t sacrificed a little bit.
The people mad at Jey winning are either only being performative to get reactions or because they are shortsighted and think this will actually bury Bron. Jey is way too over to not eventually win. It’s his time now and it’s been his time for a while. There’s PLENTY of time for Bron to win a title and have a lengthy, dominant run. He’s been booked way too well and I’m sure creative has an idea to get his momentum back and propel his story forward. His time will come.
I think people are more upset that Bron’s title reign was so short as opposed to Jey winning the title. That being said, I am in the camp that thinks it was a good move to give Jey the title.
loved this last night! a very nice surprise! YEET!
Individuals in online fandoms usually get loud like this when unhappy and quiet when satisfied, so I don’t think opinions are changing on Jey. People are basically trying to debate their individual preference on twitter because they know Triple H reads twitter. 😂 I’m neutral on it all. While I enjoy Bron much more than Jey, I liked the surprise title change on Raw as it makes future matches less of foregone conclusions. I also like to see more variety in title reign length's, so this is good. I've also heard from trusted dirtsheets (wrestlepurist) that Triple H is extremely high on Bron, so I'm not concerned in the slightest for him.
I like jey I was shocked he won but I can’t see him holding the ic title long he might drop it back to breaker
We do like Jey. This moment was AMAZING!!!!!! Definitely a minority. I think Bron is getting more character development. As you said, it's definitely shades of Sami's match with him. I think Bron is working his character very well with the getting overconfident and showboating 'causing him to lose.
I think he gets a rematch with Jey and takes him seriously and gets the title back. Either way I popped for this and I'm happy for Jey to show up at Roman like, "well, well, well..."
No in my opinion bron is still young and compared to Jey’s 14 year career bron is just getting started
I don‘t understand how Bron is supposed to be buried. Bron (who just got called up to MR) just lost to arguably one of the most over guys in the company, thats totally okay! This can be a start to a great feud! Maybe Jay defends and Bron wins the rubber match (that would free Jay for Bloodline stuff). That would be such a good story!
Just chill, let us wait were this story goes…
I don’t hate it. I get people feel Bron was a good fit as IC champion, but if WWE didn’t finally give Jey a major W it was going to cost the fans behind him. He needed a W like LA Knight needed the US title. Bron is like 26-27, he’ll clearly get the title back and go beyond that. He’s got so much time ahead of him. Jey needed this right now to take advantage of how hot he is with the fans.
I’m so hyped for Jey. Bron has the rest of his career to win more titles. He’s not buried at all. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I don’t think you’re confused. This is in no way a burial of Bron. Everyone saying that will forget about it in about a month. It’s not like they’re just going to forgot about Bron and let him sit in catering lol. They’ve got plans for him, like you said.
I’m not mad. I’m just very cautious, many times before we seen someone very popular and beloved get a title for a big moment and proceed to get nothing with it after.
Overall I'm happy.
But Wrestletalk put it best.
They took the belt off Bron way too early and left it way too late to finally put it on Jay.
Bron breaker vs. Gunther at wrestlemania
"Whats the problem here? I thought we liked Jay"
Welcome to the Internet, my friend. Most "fans" are only fans of the underdog trope. Once someone is proven to no longer be the underdog, most of the cynical "fans" begin to say that the formerly underdog wrestler sucks or is burying people.
Honestly, I didn’t see a lot of “omg they buried Bron” on my socials so I wonder if it’s just the algorithm. I DID see a lot of ppl who thought Jey would lose (like me I admit), so maybe that is why the swing in the other direction was so drastic. Ppl don’t like their expectations upended, which is why you saw extreme joy (me) or extreme disappointment.
Bron will be fine, he’s young, he’s cocky, he’s got the right look and his character is probably like a lot of those clickbait articles that say….oh his run will be as long as Gunther’s.
Doing what I do means I end up seeing wayyy more of the social media comments than I'd like to lol so that could definitely be a reason.
@@DporticusHope you are keeping your mental health good man 🫡 thanks as always for the content.
I'd like Jimmy to come back and challenge him at Crown Jewel
Thats the internet wrestling community once anyone gets remotely mainstream popular.
i'll do my best to never get popular to avoid this at all cost!
This idea of Loss = Burial needs to be the concept that is buried to the point of not being mentioned again if we're talking about WWE and Triple Hs booking. It's a stupid train of thought that one of the most over guys in WWE, who's got that DAWG in him, gets buried after a title match against another most over guy in the game. This match took nothing off of Bron except for that title and he's going to get it back probably sooner than we expect.
In fact if Jey hadn't won, it's his momentum which probably would have been stifled since the narrative has become for a long time that while Jey says he's Main Event, he hasn't actually accomplished anything on the level of Main Event to label himself so.
This match win helped Jey while not taking anything off of Bron. If anything Bron is going to be even more intense going forwards and I can not wait for that.
You one of these "Papa H" marks that says "lEt hIm cOoK"?
I don't have an issue but Seems like he was a transitional champion. Got the title, just so he could drop it to someone new. Can't judge a story till it's complete though. Maybe brekker will get the title back. Maybe he goes for a world title instead.
Yeah, that was a weird reaction and I tried to understand what's going on.
I've noticed two groups on X hating on Jey's win.
- People posting ahead of the match that Jey will lose for sure, trying to act all smart.
- Roman/ Bloodline fanatics. Maybe they want Jey to join Roman and see this title reign as a setback, maybe they don't like that Jey has a title while Roman does not.
Or maybe genuine fans who care about the future of the business and aren't Triple H bootlickers like everyone in this comments section.
I only think it's a bad decision because I'm not a fan of the current Jey Uso character. I didn't want this version to win singles gold. He needed to come back with Jimmy and win some tag team gold.
I know a lot of people are going to hate my take but its a step down for the belt and to early for Brawn to lose the belt Jay ant over Yeet is over i wish the Usos where back together WWE need more good tag teams that people care about and since they want to split the New Day it seems i think his skills are better served in the tag division but that is just me tho
Finally someone who thinks for himself.
I love that Jey got a moment. The timing seems a little weird given Bron didn't have a long reign. However, what I think is that this is part of the bigger Bloodline story. They will cause him to lose the title during the rematch which will give him an incentive to join up with Roman for the Bloodline Civil War at Survivor Series in November.
Am I cookin or naw?
I think you are cooking. It solves the problem of Jey not being involved with the Bloodline stuff and sets up nicely for wargames.
@@SeanMarsalis i actually like this
People are ignorant. A loss to one of the most over babyfaces is not "getting buried"
Bron is young he'll be okay
Im calling it. Jey will show the title to roman and say "i dont need you anymore, but you need me" and thats how he'll end up helping roman.
"People have become accustomed to long championship reigns in recent years, so they are often surprised when something different happens. LeBron will likely be fine and may become a future world champion. Another factor is that social media amplifies victories and losses to another level."
think they took title off of bron too soon 6weeks cmon still happy for jey
Explanation:
Some people just have bad takes....
Personally, really happy or Jey
He doesn't know you exist and wouldn't care if you d!ed.
Bron will come back just fine from this he's SUPER young
I think the IWC already had a distain for Jey and think that he is mid in the ring. (his moveset is a little reptitive tbf) So thats why ur seeing internet dwellers be so mad about this. Its undeniable how over Jey is and how likeable he was in this match as an underdog. yeet
ANd it couldn't be because they actually care about building new star sfor the future, huh? Nope, it has to be your stupid take on it.
YEET!
Welcome to the wrestling fandom, they always bitch
despite begging for jey to get this moment they're now upset
They were just complaining about trips being too predictable with the long reigns, now 50 days is too short
Etc etc
Vocal monority
he is not a good wrestler and not an interesting character
he has his momentum like months ago and ending short breakker reign for just a moment is just silly
Triple H is absolutely insidious for what he is doing. They don't call him the Cerebral Assassin for nothing. I have never seen someone manipulate the fans so much into thinking they're watching gold when it's actually dirt. The falling ratings every week are proving that. The ONLY fans who love HHH's booking are internet marks. Normal people couldn't care less.
Vocal minority online. Internet wrestling fans tend to contrarians who get behind wrestlers who seem to be overlooked by the higher ups despite their talent and turn on them as soon as they start rising up the card.
The problem with Bron losing by underestimating his opponent is that as you said, this is a continual thing that he does. He did it at least twice in NXT, he did it with Zane, and then again he did it with Jey. Every time he gains the momentum he loses, and it's not character development to learn the same lesson over and over again, he just looks like an idiot. I personally am very happy for Jey and I think he deserves it, but just think it's unfortunate that it came at Bron's expense. If this was the direction they wanted to go I think it would have been better for everybody is Jey won it off of Sammy, and kept Bron away from the belt until it was his time.
Lol
So early dporticus
Probably gonna lose it at crown jewel bc i think temu bloodline cost him AND sami the titles which brings them back to the story and we can get bloodline civil war games
bro that's a sweet cap
I’m so very tired of Rikishi chirping on social media
Then quit following him, sheep.
It was the right time to give Jey Uso the title. Will Bron get it back? Maybe he will. But just look at the youtube views of Jeys title win and just look how over he is. It just was the right time and Im a big Bron Breakker fan. He didnt get buried at all. He came to Raw, became IC Champ within a few months. Defeated Sami Zayn, destroyed everyone else and in his loss against Jey Uso, he didnt take him that seriously in the beginning and Jey Uso hit a few spears, superkicks and two Uso Splashs to beat him... Also: if Bron Breakker would have defeated Sami Zayn in the first match and also would have defeated Jey Uso maybe we would have got the next "Roman Reigns Problem" where many fans maybe would not accept the next big thing.... About Rikishi... He will now start complaining that Jey Uso should be World, not IC Champ hahaha
Lol, your name says it all. I was just about to call you a bootlicking HHH mark and then I saw your name. Figures,
It’s mind blowing to me to be this upset about other people’s opinions.
Losing isn’t being buried.
To the Jey haters: YEET!
there is an extremely toxic side to wrestling fans, a lot of these bad faith takes are mainly for engagement. Always make your own opinions and thats all that matters.
So I guess I should agree with you and everyone else here cuz it's the "right" opinion huh?
People don’t get what being buried means
Explain it to us, professor.
most wrestling fans think they are bookers and know better......its kinda embarassing
And how exactly are you better? You know what's really sad? People like you who go on random youtube videos and have to position themselves above others like this to make yourself feel superior. I bet a million dollars you haven't accomplished a single thing in your life and this is the only thing you have.