Is the Jumbo 76 still good?!
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- The Jumbo 76mm in War Thunder is an absolute monster! At least... it used to be! Where most heavy tanks at this battle rating such as the IS-2 and the Tiger II can rely on their armour AND their firepower, the Jumbo still has the same little 76mm cannon that's found in the M10 tank destroyer at 3.3!
Today, I wanted to find out just how bad it is! :)
The M4A3E2 76 W is a pretty iconic vehicle, I hope it's still good for my sake. At least I don't need to fight BMP-1's and Marders with ATGM's as well as IS-6 and Ho-Ri Prototypes. Right? RIGHT?
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Thank you for being the only CC to say the jumbo 76 is overtiered. All the other CCs are like oh we rack up kills with it (forgetting they're better than the majority of players) so it must be balanced. Oxy had the worse take ever in his vids saying the reactionary factor for it's armor makes it 6.3 material(which there is none since pretty much every cannon past 6.3 lol pens it but hey he sold out quite obviously) which is the same thing we've said bout the Panthers. I've died so many times to panthers cause I have to line up specific weak spots while they lol pen.
@@jonathanallen3688 was just gonna say i was first to reply bruh
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HIIIIIII ODD AVIRAL SAYS HI
i do appreciate that we share the same passion of killing anyone with a z on their tank
At 25:12 , if you look closely at 0.25 speed, you shot his bomb with your main gun, not the plane ! That's an insane shot lol
Dude, holy shit, what? Spoilers!!! But like... WOW!
Yeah nice explosion!
omg wow
Holy shit
he sounds hilarious at that speed 😂
You should put the decoration on the L3/33 and try to get first place on the team with it
Definitely l3 or locust
I would not disagree except the L3 can be exceedingly difficult to get kills while using. I would agree with Locust, Tetrarch, or, my favourite for such a challenge, the Squeezy Boi.
That was the FIRST vehicle I thought of.
@@grognard23 yea the L3/33 is more of a “hide in an absolutely derpy spot” kinda tank
I don't think there needs to be a big push to get 1st place, but I do want to see that big old shield thing on the tiny L3/33
The 3.7 RAM tank in the US Premium side might be fun with that decoration. Its armor is weird and trolly and covering it up might make that much worse.
Ram II is so good in a downtier. I love just driving zig zag at people and bouncing a dozen shots. 6pdr just shreds everything you can see too, even without HE filler.
I love that tank
I honestly very much enjoy your "old" Video style. Hangar talk and half an hour of gameplay is just oddly comforting and relaxing. Even more so that I use your Videos to calm down after a long day and that 30 min+ makes it much easier
Yes, me too. And his gameplay is always very interesting. He has a view in this game
I 100% agree, I don't really care for this new style much at all.
I personally think that any tank that gives Germany a hard time either gets uptiered or nerfed
In 2022 this is not a brave statement... it's just a fact 🥲
Facing a 76 Jumbo when playing 5.3 or 5.7 germany you will have a hard time
@@dodolul9016 lmao
@@dodolul9016 The amount of tigers I killed with a M4a1 76 is absolutely astonishing
I have about 1000 kills in the m4a1 76 and like 700 of them are tiger 2’s
The tiger 2 should probably be at 6.7 like the t26e5 idk what it’s doing at 6.3 with that long 88
The shield would be pretty funny on the M22 with face as well. Maybe a M22 vs Panthers and Tigers vid?
And don't forget a shield and the sword decoration
He did an M22 video at 5.7 somewhat recently
Not gonna lie, i'm glad i'm not the only one that gets all warm and fuzzy inside when they can knock out an enemy with Z's all over their vehicles
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I don't get it
@@shmillbe3390 tanks with z, are references to russian tanks used in the war against ukraine. Russia tanks identify with “z”
@Number7Red true but also. Lots of us players who put z on our tanks also just do it for roleplay or whatever. Just like a lot of players love ww2 german tanks. Same reason. And no i dont support russia, i support ukraine.
@@SgtBacalhau dirty commies
I think 6.0 was a good middle ground. If the Jagdpanther can be 6.0, then the Jumbo can be 6.0.
the problem that gaijin refuses to acknowledge is that the average 76 jumbo player is 10x better than the average Jagdpanther player, and the problem has only gotten worse now that only people who really like the jumbo are playing it at 6.3.
@@XSpamDragonX I have 4,5 KD ratio on Jumbo after 1900 games. They moved it to 6.3 because of me I guess xD I had lot of games with over 20 kills with it so they problably check logs and recon hmm, that tonk must be OP lets nerf it xD I never played Jumbo after BR change, its much more pain than fun now. I played Bigel after that change so they moved Bigel to 9.3, now I play AGS so they will change it to 11.0 soon xD
Take the stabilizer and the Jumbo can be at 5.7 , this Stab is a huge advantage .
@@5co756 The stab is an advantage* or are we going to take the german's incredibly stable suspension while we're at it?
something that gets conveniently ignored by every dip that brings up HURR DURR BUT STABILIZER
The thing is, the jumbo has a stabilizer and that's the only thing that makes it good, it's gun is mediocre. It's armour is very easy to deal with if you have more than 2 working braincells, it's mobility is about on par with a Panther A which has better armour and a better gun.
@@Gary_The_Metro As I said , take the stab from the Jumbo and put it at 5.7 . It's at 6.3 cause of the stabilizer , gun barrel shooting on the move . Most maps in WT are close combat , with Panther's you can't drive and shoot . That's just a luck shot .
I love how odd says he's bad when he misses a shot, then snipes an asu 57 from 9KM away with a pin needle, the hundreds to thousands of hours you have put in this game are showing my good friend, keep up the good work!
I'm pretty new to realistic and don't play it much so when I play I'm like Stevie wonder if you gave him a controller for connect 4, I'll connect 3 and die. _XD_
the jumbo 76 still works, although i only take it out in downtiers where if played smart can become a beast of a tank even at 6.3 and for some reason 6.3 gets downtiered all the time, but it doesnt belong at 6.3 with the tiger 2 p and is2 1944, but its still fun
I take it out infull uptiers if the maps brawly. I've gotten too many nukes
it absolutely belongs there it is a better tank than both of those examples.
it absolutely belongs there it is a better tank than both of those examples.
@@foxboy64 are you actually serious or just playing around cause the tiger 2 p and is2 1944 are brilliant tanks with great guns and armor for their br, much better than that of the jumbo.
@@antonklein4339 im actually serious because great guns and armor dont matter when you're uptiered, and the jumbo has soft factors that make it more meta.
its smaller, faster, has a stabalizer, has the reload advantage, has a faster turret, and most maps in the game are urban brawlers not long range sniper maps.
(and by faster, i mean its more nimble. it accelerates and pivots better than the other two, and as such it gets around the maps quicker; outside of downhill straight line drag races)
is the tiger 2 better in a full downtier? maybe, but have you noticed how they never get downtiers? jumbos get them every other battle. tiger2's get a downtier maybe once in every 10 hours of play.
Glad you're still pumping out some content, Odd. Keep it up!
I just love it when Gaijin throws out a patch that spins the wheel of bugs.
I bet you could do a hilarious Manscaped spot.
PLEASE put that decoration on the smallest vehicle you can find in WarThunder
The worst part about 6.3-7.0 is the uptier is constant, and it's far harder as the jump in technology just flattens most tanks at that BR in every field.
the decoration would look good in
the elc/asu57/alecto/m22/l3
basically it covers almost the entire tank and its uptierered to 6.7-7.7 to meme on german mains
The 76 jumbo is my favorite and best tank in the game, and even at 6.3 I sill do just fine, but I think it needs to go back to 6.0
Thanks for re-looking at a classic Odd! The R3 might be funny to see the shield on or the Wiesel
German mains would start crying over being held to the same standards as every nation.
This is litterally a shittier panther.
@@honkhonk8009 tell me about it dude they get a new leopard 2 every patch and still whine about Russia
@@petermeinholz6087Not only that, but they litterally get ATGM vehicles at 7.3, and still cry about how Germany suffers or some shit.
The only ATGMs America gets, are shitty gun launcher ATGMs at 8.0
M113 APC's with TOW missiles never get added to the American lineup apparently. The only one that does, ends up being a premium basically.
The allouete also used to be the same BR as the AH1Z, despite having ATGMs while the AH only had mighty mouses.
The leopard is faster, has the same gun as the M60, more stable, lower profile, and litterally better in every way to the M60, but the Leopard used to sit at 7.0 (now 7.3), while the M60 sits at 7.7 (often uptiered to 8.7). The m60 armour is also improperly modelled while the Leopards isnt.
The german M48 used to also be at a lower BR than the American M48, even though the German one was straight up superior.
German mains get coddeled by gaijjin and play like litteral toddlers, only to be rewarded for it.
@@honkhonk8009 what how is the jumbo a worse panther?
I use it at 6.7 and have a great time lol
So just for anyone who missed that, Oddbawz didn't hit that plane directly with his main shell. He actually hit the BOMB it dropped with the main shell, detonating it midair and killing the plane in the process from the blast. Neat little detail there. 25:10 is roughly when it happens.
hey! its me! Please_Call_Me_Landon! really cool video and i was waiting for a 6.3 jumbo video since the one video you made on it when it was 6.0. thanks for mentioning me and i hope my 25 bucks goes to good use. thanks again!
Thank you, Landon!!! You're some boy! I'm going to spend it on Golden Eagles and Therapy! :)
If the penetration was corrected back to the 127mm I think it could warrant being dropped down to 5.7-6.0. I love the US tech tree, and the changes to the short 75mm were closer to accurate, but the 76mm got way to much penetration with the update to penetration calculation years ago.
That is ridiculous to say, have you looked at all the other nations guns?
@@curtsauce3947 It isn't rediculous to say in the slightest, the 76mm M1 was a stopgap gun between the short 75 and the 90mm. Even the crews hated the thing. It didnt have the HE effect the short 75mm did for anti-infantry and for tanks where the 75mm couldnt penetrate them, it still couldn't penetrate.
@@corrodan2995 The point is that from a balancing perspective, other nations get medium/heavy tanks with thicker armour and over 200mm of pen, but U.S. doesn't even have tank destroyers that can do that. The closest we get is the m41 shooting a crappy little apds that germany gets a better version of anyway.
@@corrodan2995 what @who knows said. You really wanna nerf an already inferior gun to other nations.
@@curtsauce3947 If that is the correct performance then yes. Even at the 127mm it would still be adequate enough. Every nation has its weakspots, around this BR for the US it would be innadequate to alright guns. This is made up for by most of the US vehicles having short stabilizers. But at the BR the gun is comparable in penetration to all other guns it is introduced with. If the penetration was reduced, things like the jumbo 76 would go down, and perform overall better.
Feel better soon Odd and congrats to your Sister and new Brother-in-Law. YT has decided since I like your videos so much to serve up at least 4 or 5 sets of double commercials for this vid. Obviously served up at the most critical scenes. Still won't keep me from watching and liking.
I have zero idea why they thought this thing needed to be at 6.3 lmao. They keep upping U.S vehicles and downtiering German ones. This thing needs to be at 5.7
and what do you propose the 75mm one's BR is? it was 5.7 maybe a couple of years ago and the 75mm was at 4.7 and it was so ridiculously strong..
@@userjlj The answer is simple: The 75 Jumbo stays at 5.3, cause there's already the Curvy Jumbo at 4.7.
@@userjlj keep it at 5.3 it's fun just bouncing shots off of tigers in urban maps lmao
Clearly the AC IV need the added protection of that armour plate to protect what is truly important
Slightly off topic: There needs to be a better filter for customization. Like a section for "customizations I own" vs just the blob of everything that is hard to filter through. IMHO.
I love this. It’s been suggested but apparently it’s too much work.
It still baffles me that this thing got pushed to 6.3, yet germany has vehicles like the tiger, and panther sitting at 5.3!
tbh playing usa low-mid tier is like having decent armor but with a slingshot for your main armament
@@Phoenix1.s or a squirt gun
true
@@Phoenix1.s All the while, Germany has good armor, and point/click cannons.
@@thor82ak they have point click cannons but still seem to struggle
Really nice assistance by ObviousOnly in the T92 when you got stuck. GG WP. 👍
I love the 6.3 lineup that the US has. And i'd rather fight leo's and other lighter tanks. They rarely got a stab, and i still got mine. And i have APHE that can still oneshot reliably
Good to run into you yesterday. Got to see how you run tu-1. Wow just 👌 👏.
I don't know if anyone has commented this one, but I personally would find it hilarious if you used that deco piece to cover the commander's cupola on the T95 doom turtle. :) I enjoy both styles of your videos, so keep doing great content Odd. cheers!
Man on 6.3BR 76jumbo suffers a lot of you need a tiger 2p you are dead. But in a hand of a pro player that has learned the Art of Sherman, it's a monster
7:21 - I like you for that OddBawZ! I don't understand why Gaijin allows using symbol of an army that is actively comiting serious warcrimes as we speak... it leaves a REALLY bad taste...
"if you face a tiger 2 h thats prety much it" meanwhile im screaming at my screen in joy cuz he gets that germany is just unstoppable when it faces jumbos
Average German bias supporter. It’s a fact that the tiger 2h is suffering. Look at it, can’t even pen a jumbo upper front plate from 5km away. How are we supposed to cope with that? It should really be 5.0max. And I’m not even going to start talking about the Panther which is facing tanks instead of battle ships, that’s a direct insult to history.
I really like the 76 Jumbo honestly. It's better armored than the Panther and T-44 and since it has decent mobility the gun is good enough to get the job done if you know how to use it.
@@talandar5773 t44 has better hull armor but worse turret armor
@@khaledal-mulfi1191 Lot more jank in the T-44 turret though. All the rounded corners and just generally the small profile of it. Both turrets are just odd really.
@@olegue3554 lmao right dude skill issue all the way like this guy above says its not at all the garbage game mechanics, volumetric shells, and garbage pen values...could never be XD ur whole 5km thing was the sarcasm kicker. and i havent tested it but with how easy the tiger and panther class tanks go through its 100mm sloped armor i wouldnt be surprised if you still could one shot a jumbo from 5km with the right shot
I would imagine even the fuel trucks would be "good" with Odd driving.
"In this video...I squirt some fuel at the cupola, scrape the truck down the side to cause sparks, run like hell...."
Knocking out that Tiger 2 with that Z on its turret was extremely satifsying
I get that it's easier to do this style of video Bawz. I'll watch anything you do! your in game commentary and obvious love for teammates good game play is why i'm here. Besides, you teach me shit, and I'm old! We got you buddy! Keep it up
That decoration on the Matilda would be pretty funny.
That decoration would be perfect for the AC IV and it's machine gun Benis cover lol!
25:14 Bawz actually hit the guys bomb with his main gun which caused it to explode mid air lmao
The reason the sherman is 6.0/6.3 is solely because of the stabilizer, It makes your aim snap into place instead of wobbling around as you come to a full stop and let your enemy aim at you, Germans dont have stabilizers which makes it extremely hard to snapshot someone. which affects even high ranking players, there's a reason why the sherman WNR is so high and why you seem to be having good games in it.
What good is the stabiliser if your cannon is a potato launcher against the thick armor of a German tank?
Meanwhile German mains do not have to play Surgeon Simulator with weak spots and can mostly point and click to get kills.
And yes, I've tried both German and US tanks and would say that Germany is wayy easier, except for the braindead teammates.
@@M8M8ss in the literal start of the game the stabilizer shows it's purpose, sure German tanks are easier to play but your performance in them still is low compared to their American counterpart, the only tanks I would agree are OP in the German tree are the tiger IIs and the jagdpanther.
@@crusher1080 The thing is, at low tiers US tanks get solid shot rounds.
There's a great lack of APHE except for the tank destroyers which do not possess stabilisers.
Meanwhile German tanks constantly get stock APHE rounds which have excellent penetration capabilities and can consistently one-shot a tank, unlike solid shot rounds.
Sure, shermans get APHE, but it doesn't come stock and is not as powerful as that of the panzer 4s.
That tiny Italian thing where the grass is higher than the chassis. The shield will be the only thing seen hahah
Honestly, if you really had been sponsored by Manscaped, I would have respected the hustle.
Slap that decoration on the front of an L3/33CC, it will probably cover the entire front of the vehicle and leave other players to say, "What the ..... is that?"
On 6 different instances in this video, your flying decor made me think my phone screen had a crumble on it.
Damnit.
Get the doc to give you SOMAC or similar, really helped me. It was worth the camera down my throat
I'm currently doing America again, now I will use my Jumbo 76 with this new found knowledge.
inb4 jumbo 6.7.
From the wise team that brought you the 3.7 BR R3 T20, and 4.3 BR EBR.
speaking of decals: this battlepass at level 58 you get an orange/red spinning wee-woo light and it is the sole reason why I purchased the battlepass
After seeing how well the Jumbo performs at 6.3, i think it would be much better balanced at 6.7 maybe even 7.0
PS. I'm totally not a German main.
I think thats a good idea as well (once again, im definitely not a german main)
@@zorzie9233 For sure bro, german main's wouldn't say something like this.
@@MegaCPrimE As a russia main I think it should be 5.7
Is-2 is just amazing against it.
@@23fallout16 I agree, I would love to cbt a is2
This was great, nice work man! Hope you feel better soon
nail biting last game. congrats to your sister as well!
Dude. You NEED to put that on the ASU-57. It NEEDS to be done!
25:12 someone tell bawz he just shot his bomb out. what a shot
Thank you for deleting the Z at 08:00. You did us all a favor in doing so.
I would like to point out that mostly everything stopped firing to let you kill Z boy in the first game. Also you hit the bomb of that C202 with your main gun. you missed the plane haha
I’d have bought manscaped from you with that pun
killed a Z tank at any cost, i call it based.
Odd, it wouldn’t bother me if you took a sponsor. You should take them if you ever need to and I don’t think the community would judge too much
An Oliphant with the Elephant would be Magniphicant
6:11 the joke being your teammates will never move up and help.
Challenge Suggestion - Attempt to get 5-10 kills with a Anything that carries bombs with highest bomb fuze
Playing the Jumbo in an open map and still bringing the fight to close quarters. Bravo.
That's how you win.
Nop! 76 Jumbo at 6.3 is too hard!! OddBawZ just has great skills, that's why this tank looks so great in this video!!!!
Sitting and spawn camping for content.... not wrong... but we all have experienced both sides of it
you should add the shield decoration with the elephant on it directly on the elephant tank with some other customs
At 25:20 you hit the planes bomb with the main gun. Nice shot
I'm currently in the Jumbo 76 and it is goddamn hilarious at how the heck does the wise minds at Gaijin think that this tank is somehow equivalent to the menacing King Tigers or IS-2??
I mean, look at the jumbo, and look at the KT or IS-2! It looks so tame and non-menacing compared to those 2 famous heavies.
I have some success at the Jumbo 76, but i really have to change my mindset. The Jumbo is not a heavy tank, it's a fat medium. I flank, i back off from frontal engagement like a pussi, basically i play it like a normal Sherman.
It's not even a fat sherman lol, it's just a sherman with the correct amount of mobility. As gaijin loves to do they nerfed the shit out of the shermans, they currently have less mobility than the panther A and are about comparable to the panther D G and F, only the jumbos still have their original mobility. And when I say mobility I don't mean max speed, I mean their actual mobility such as power to weight ratio. And of course, the m4a3 having had it's turret speed nerfed into the ground, nowadays you're better off playing 5.3 if you want to play the US, or going straight to 6.0 unless you really love the m18. 5.7 is just a bad BR right now.
@@Gary_The_Metro they need to lower the M18 to 5.3. I can't stand how it's the only US tank (besides the last 76 Sherman I think) that's at 5.7. I just want to have it fit into a good lineup cuz I love it so much.
Yes thats a floatin gas mask
Lol
Are we going to ignore the fact that Bawz just killed a plane with it's own bomb? 25:12
Edit: Timestamp
Hey Odd, I don't know if you noticed, but when you yeeted that Re 2001, if you look carefully, it looks like you shot his bomb right as it was deploying, not his actual airframe. That's wild!
To cover up the mg port use the police lights (level 51 this battle pass)
You could put it over the top of the t95 and then put the shield over the other one.
25:11 you actually hit his bomb right after he dropped it and not his plane, nice shot mate
I don't care if it's bad, I don't care if it gets smacked by everything it goes up against now, I will ALWAYS love my BigBoi
There's literally no reason this should have been bumped up like it did, gaijin needs to drop the jumbos and M6 back to where they were
7:22 I’m feeling you bro)))
17:25 - Awesome shot, Bawz.
I wish I could play like this guy, I'm the guy he shoots. i swear 95% of the first shot against me break my gun or my gunner. I never ever have rounds like this. I'm jealous :) fun to watch him just slaughter people.
I think that decoration would look pretty funny if you can get it to look like a headdress for the turret on the Swedish Stridsvagn 74.
It would be funny to have that decoration on the low tier puma
Very nice video.
The Wiesel would be very nice a vehicel dir the decoration.
Seriously. I run up against the guys that study the map, and Google best sniping spots.
Baws gets the most unaware players ever...
I just wanna say ive been watching your war thunder videos for what feels like ages and I just wanna say I love your videos, they're always so good :)
Put it on the squeezie boi!!!
MAXIMUM lulz to be had with a giant shield and a tiny frame.
Idk why, but I was completely uptier-proof in ths a while ago, in 2021. Got my second nuke in it, so it hans a special place in my heart.
On top of the main turret on a russian t-28 variant or the t-35 it would look like a crown on a bobble head
I use a Jerry can to cover the real port and a helmet to make a fake MG port slightly above the real one
You should put it on LA Chi LG… place it right in front of one of the back soldiers as “protection” from the virgin bush users
Put the huge funny object onto the 1.0 Puma. It would be bigger than the whole tank itself
i know you said not to ask, but i at least thought you were going to address it haha.
.......WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THE FLOATING GAS MASK!? lmfao
bawz: im absolutely potato
*proceeds to kill 1 million tanks*
You make this game look actually fun...
Oddbawz please use the massive thing on the zis30 and bring it up to 5.7
Never had any luck with this personally
The fact that it's almost a full BR higher than a Tiger E and only .4 lower than Tiger II (H) really says it all...
And Gaijin wanted to push German tanks even lower and only the massive backlash they got for suggesting that stopped them.
Hey concerning the Reflux that you mentioned at the end of the vid. I had it bad for years, then found I was sensitive to certain seasonings in some foods. The doctors here in The States never figured it out, but I found that for me if I omit oregano from my diet, then I'm not pounding a whole bottle of antacid nor needing the Prilosec. (Yeah I know it sounds daft) You might want to look into some food herb seasoning being the culprit OR something added TO a certain seasoning (like an anti-caking agent with the garlic for example) that's giving you grief. Just a thought....
Put this decoration on asu-57 and try too not get killed and get five kills.
Have a great day and sorry for language mistakes.
Put the decoration on the zis-30.
If you know how to play it, it's more than good. It gives overconfident players with their "big guns" a run for their money. It even does well against Tiger II's. Barrel first, then tracks and you have a harmless kitten.
Use the decoration to give the gunner on the AS42 some cover 🇮🇹
You should put that huge shield thing on a German Wiesel.
25:12 you shot that Re.2001's bomb with the main gun