Yes i do, i'm polish myself. The battle of Wizna was the thermopylae of poland. It was around 700+ men holding off the german invasion force of around 40,000 for more than 3 days... we did amazing.. i just wish the british would of kept their friggin word and helped out.
@slitor almost. but actually, rifling dates back to the 16th century, it wasn't "invented" during the Crimean War. regiments like the British "Green Jackets" were using rifled muskets in the early 19th century, and rifles were part of the weaponry used in the War of 1812. the Minie ball came into play in the 1840s, after which rifling became much more common for infantrymen.
Yeah I read this in a book I found at my schools library. France however didn't have the best gear a lot of it was old and dated as far back as 1918 so that might help explain why they formed in a big line, maybe waiting for new modern gear. The german troops however were equipped with modern gear which gave them an edge I guess.
@woobinda65 This is from a made for TV series called Anzacs. It starred Paul Hogan of Crocodile Dundee fame. Some of the battle scenes did lack realism but in the context of a made for TV programme maybe that is slightly more understandable
The patch on the sergeant is from the 8th or 7th Victoria regiment of the Australian Expeditionary Force (Infrantry Battalion). later to be combined due to heavy losses in the Australian and New Zealand forces. (ANZAC's) He is not polish as you say.
are white and red colors on the soldiers arm an unit emblem? or are these polish troops? (which i doubt to be, because in WWI polish units where created in france witth french equipment and uniforms)
@LambdaZetaTeke was it not so that in the 18th century during a siege (maybe before), the opposing armies would dig trenches to put forward their mortars in range of the fort and then bomb it. But indeed, it was in the american civil war that they would form a sort of frontline.
Makes me wanna go throw on the "ANZACS" miniseries and watch it.. awesome.. It's an awesome piece of Australian film making, with the likes of " The Light Horsemen" That's what I'm gonna do right now, throw on me DVD of the ANZACS....
+Dunnlrs - Hey you are right about this, being WW1, Germans fighting Australians and not the Polish. However, the uniform is Australian Army issued and made, in those days and for the metal helmets are English or standard Allies issued item.
You do understand this is set during World War One. The Lewis Gun at the time during World War One wasn't old. Were you expecting them to use an M60 Machine Gun in this TeleMovie?
@@heritagehound7565 I have actually misquoted Rommel on this one. The actual quote goes "If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it". However, there is a good chance that this quote is apocryphal. Which I didn't know when I made this comment 9 years ago.
Try the terms SAPs or SAPPERS Tunneling Mining Bridgeworks and other Military Terms. Most will find Battle Field Engineering goes back longer then they think. Its not NEW its just been re-advised and re-adapted
@RobsonRockMachine What I posted 2 days ago was an observation that Poland seems to be on peoples "first to conqour" list in Europe alot, but then added that they are fierce fighters that stand up for themselves. see WW1 and 2. I dont know why your attcking what I said. oh and BTW Australia hasnt been a colony since 1901.
@AlexDeLarge90 usmctanks1 was correct. I am a former US Army officer and I hold a degree in history. All you need to do is look at Vicksburg and Petersburg, to see the genesis of trench warfare. The repeating rifle, railway guns, and machine guns (in the form of Dr Gatling's invention) were all introduced during the US Civil War.
Its not a Polish flag, its a regimental patch used by the ANZAC'S (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) this regiment is Australian and the Colonel is with the (Lancashire Fusiliers) a British Army regiment, no Polish in this even though the patch looks like the Polish flag it is just a tactical badge. The 2 regiments also fought at Gallipoli together against the Ottoman Turks.
Incorrect on the French point. The French and British armor (tanks in particular) were superior to the Germans, and they had more of them. The tactics hadn't kept up with the times, however. Even Erwin Rommel acknowledged that had the tanks been deployed en masse however the invasion of France could've been stopped.
@LambdaZetaTeke Repeating rifles with caps was usde firstly by the Prussians actually. But Id go to say that it was the invention of the rifle that first that truly gave birth to trench warefare during the Crimean.
@MrTorisek In Europe, the Russian (Eastern) movies are not distributed or I don't think they are... I have watched their clips on UA-cam. "Enemy at gates"? The movie director is French or Belgian, with English and American actors! I don't know "Konwój PQ-17"
You will find its the Colour Patch of the 8th Battalion 1st AIF Above the Colour Patch on the eppulette is the Dressing The word AUSTRALIA which signified they were Australian Soldiers Colour Patches do not signify Nationality but what unit they are battalion or division. No doubt the Poles during WW2 fought with extreme courage but the above video was a TV Adaption of one Battalion during World War One and the ANZAC Corps that fought on the Western Front. Remember this video was a TV Series
@Tomenable You're right but at the same time it can't be said it was actually better. They had different strengths and weaknesses. The Mauser was the more accurate weapon and could bring fire to bear over a longer range. The .303 through quicker bolt action and a 10 round capacity was capable of much more rapid fire. I'd say that in the 14,18 conflict the strengths of .303 would make it the better rifler to have.
In 1939 Germans had to few modern warfare. Poles were using anti-tank rifle and anti tank gun(37 Boffors) and it worked. Huge problem was Luftwaffe with BF 109. France had chance in 3rd week of war. In Early 1940 German generals didn't repeat the same mistakes. They had proper supplying more AMV. More over France had Enigma code and working machine from Polish Inteligence and they did not used it.
@thebigJM92 Only because they did'nt have the Lee-Enfield No1 Mk3 .303! Though i note for the record that at 2.06/2.07, the silly bastard seemed to jam the bolt. Just like the Sikh soldier in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
The difference between the US Marine Corp and the Anzacs is very minimal. I'm not talking about equipment wise, i'm saying that both were used as shock troops and were taught and told to conserve resources. In terms of battle spirit and efficiency on the battlefield, the Anzacs is on par with the US Marine Corp. For some battles which proved the combat readiness of the Anzacs Search up Battle of Hamel - WWI Battle of Torbruk - WWII Battle of Long Tan - Vietnam
You are right. But Poles were fighting in France ("Blue Army") in French uniforms, and in Austria-Hungary in Polish uniforms against Russia., and In Russia against Germans. They refused fighting for Kaiser and commanders were imprisoned by Germans. Many Poles, (as Italians and Irish men) were fighting in American Units (without Polish signs on the uniforms).
I'm English, but don't take that as a bias. The wikipedia article is easy to quote from, thats why I used it, but it is clear to see that after the battle of Amien, and the subsequent breakthrough of the Hindenburg line, there was no hope for German victory on the Western Front.
@LambdaZetaTeke I wonder how much attention was paid by Confederate and Union commanders to the Crimean War in the 1850s? A few comparisons come to mind. Trench warfare, the decline of cavalry on the battlefield in the direct assault role, mass use of rifled weapons and breach loading artillery. Not to mention battlefield medical care. (or the lack of it!)
@MrPearlJack Kar98k is less accurate past 400 yards, bolt takes long to manipulate and is more difficult under stress, Lee-Enfield has ten rounds, 98k has five, Enfield has better long range sights (No4 Micrometre sights). Lee-Enfield wins, I do love Mausers but for a combat situation the Enfield is more preferable.
A technical note: the French did in fact possess superior tank forces at the beginning of the war, both in quality and quantity deployed on the Western Front. The Germans used only light and medium tanks, while the French possessed such heavies as the Char B. However, the French tanks were deployed mainly as defensive buttresses for infantry forces. As such, despite a few impressive local engagements, French armour did not play anything like the role of the concentrated German spearheads.
@zed664 Well thats alright, I can understand that. It is a great rifle :D, very successful and rich history, but I was basing that opinion on the statistics and not personal preference.
This is mere silliness. These countries clung to their neutrality in the face of Allied negotiations to at least permit coordinated defensive preparations. Moreover, the suggestion that these countries with relatively tiny forces would up and invade Germany had Britain simply asked is like saying Slovenia would fly to the moon if Spain just phrased the request politely.
i agree but us brits took a lot of causalties in the war. on july1 1916 lost 57,000 men wounded or dead in 1 morning also in 1917 britain lost more men than they had in the first 3 years of fighting
@jizzinmypants191919: I disagree. The Lee-Enfield may have been a bolt-action weapon, but in the hands of trained men it could seem like machine gun fire. Just ask the Germans at Mons in 1914.
@LambdaZetaTeke spot-on...one of the reasons for the American Civil War's high casualties and brutal nature was the juxtaposition of outdated "Napoleonic" warfare with modern "amenities" like automatic weapons, repeating rifles, and the high number of troops armed with rifled instead of smooth-bore muskets... i always tell people: WW1 was born on Civil War battlefields. the parallels are frighteningly accurate. it was a sad, bloody mess =/
It is true that the tactics didn't keep up. And yes they had more tanks, but they were somewhat slow. The French also relied on large bunker complexes. However these complexes, as strong they might be relied on static front lines, and they weren't static anymore. Another thing to keep in mind was that Germany had absolute air supremacy, rendering many fortifications obsolete. The last thing: Many in Europe were in doubt of who they should support. The German economy was great. There's weren't
hehehe - I know regimental colours all of 41 cav reg of polish amry in 39. I havent learns ausies colours, there was no need - but it looks that by accident - they were in colours like polish flag. my mistake form above is that tcommonwealth troops worn not flags on shoulder - but a badge with naqtion like ausiee,kiwi, polish canadian etc.... my mistake.
@Ski82PL Poland first to be over run and occupied. seems the norm really. but to your credit you did stick around to fight hard with those that would liberate you.
To everyone writing that this is polish army action, quite frankly you are all fools. The read and white is a Unit insignia of the 8th Battalion of the AIF during world war 1, For those who don't know the AIF was Australian that fought from the beginning thought to the end of the war. This scene was from a 1985 series that appeared on Australian tv, it was known as ANZACS.
@rofflemows2 hmm...I'd call ACW(and the crimean war) for the first industrial wars but its still not modern warfare. The practicality and effect of a fully automatic machine gun in no way compares to a cumbersome hand-cranked Gatling. The fact that repeaters and automatics got more effective and turned into a hand-weapon makes all the different.
@ShahOfBlahII Thanks for the info! Even if it is "just" a TV fiction, such kind of silly situations are not acceptable. The context is war and war is hell on earth. It is a "must" to respect dead soldiers of ALL uniforms representing them in a more accurate realistic way. I'm sorry but I'm so strict when I deal with war and its awful horror.
These are Anzacs, Australia and New Zealand Army Corps, and they are the loyalist and bravest fuckers you would ever wish to go into battle with. From a Pom ex squaddie.
I've got a quote to back up my claim, 'In November 1918 the Allies had ample supplies of men and materiel to invade Germany. Yet at the time of the armistice, no Allied force had crossed the German frontier; the Western Front was still almost 900 mi (1,400 km) from Berlin; and the Kaiser's armies had retreated from the battlefield in good order.' This is taken from the wikipedia article on world war one. I think my claim has a little more depth than yours.
@strudel89 This engagement occurred in the open country as opposed to static trench warfare during the German Spring Offensive of 1918. And why shouldn't this particular film reflect the reality of what happened regarding odds/tactics? The Aussies this depicts weren't labled "The saviours of Amiens" by the locals for nothing.
@LiveJoyDivision I wasn't comparing them, I was trying to show you (But failed) how weapons that have killed more people aren't necessarily better weapons, read the comment properly and you'll realize I wasn't comparing them at all. Overall yes, the Mauser is probably a better design, it's much more refined than the Enfield, but for combat, the Enfield is more effective, it emerged on the winning side...twice, for a start. The Mauser action has been more successful than the Enfields however.
Yep "Anzacs", you may notice Paul "Crocodile Dundee" Hogan in there. It was a great series from what I remember.
who would have thought that tree ferns would provide such excellent cover from bullets.
They don’t you ducking autist. As evidenced in the show
Yes i do, i'm polish myself. The battle of Wizna was the thermopylae of poland. It was around 700+ men holding off the german invasion force of around 40,000 for more than 3 days... we did amazing.. i just wish the british would of kept their friggin word and helped out.
@woobinda65 forget it i mixed something up. but i agree - in most US films germans are represented like that. just look soldier james ryan.
@slitor almost. but actually, rifling dates back to the 16th century, it wasn't "invented" during the Crimean War. regiments like the British "Green Jackets" were using rifled muskets in the early 19th century, and rifles were part of the weaponry used in the War of 1812. the Minie ball came into play in the 1840s, after which rifling became much more common for infantrymen.
Yeah I read this in a book I found at my schools library. France however didn't have the best gear a lot of it was old and dated as far back as 1918 so that might help explain why they formed in a big line, maybe waiting for new modern gear. The german troops however were equipped with modern gear which gave them an edge I guess.
@woobinda65 This is from a made for TV series called Anzacs. It starred Paul Hogan of Crocodile Dundee fame. Some of the battle scenes did lack realism but in the context of a made for TV programme maybe that is slightly more understandable
The patch on the sergeant is from the 8th or 7th Victoria regiment of the Australian Expeditionary Force (Infrantry Battalion). later to be combined due to heavy losses in the Australian and New Zealand forces. (ANZAC's) He is not polish as you say.
It's the Australian 8th Battallion, 1st AIF. In WORLD WAR 1.
My unit had blue over purple colour patches. Every battallion has a different colour.
@LambdaZetaTeke I'd say that it still is Dr. Maxim's MG which really revolutionized and defined the modern MGs
are white and red colors on the soldiers arm an unit emblem? or are these polish troops? (which i doubt to be, because in WWI polish units where created in france witth french equipment and uniforms)
@danfra66 trench warfare dates back to the 17th century, and futher back depending on what you count as an trench.
@HatersGonnaHate1000 Mauser is the designer - It can be referred to as Kar98k, K98K, Mauser K98, K98 Mauser - All the same thing.
@LambdaZetaTeke
was it not so that in the 18th century during a siege (maybe before), the opposing armies would dig trenches to put forward their mortars in range of the fort and then bomb it. But indeed, it was in the american civil war that they would form a sort of frontline.
Makes me wanna go throw on the "ANZACS" miniseries and watch it.. awesome..
It's an awesome piece of Australian film making, with the likes of " The Light Horsemen"
That's what I'm gonna do right now, throw on me DVD of the ANZACS....
+Dunnlrs - Hey you are right about this, being WW1, Germans fighting Australians and not the Polish. However, the uniform is Australian Army issued and made, in those days and for the metal helmets are English or standard Allies issued item.
@cjeffe007 He was talking about the Springfield 1903.
@mobilechief Yeah, me too. What do you have? Mine is a 42 dated Savage, No4 MkI*
You do understand this is set during World War One. The Lewis Gun at the time during World War One wasn't old. Were you expecting them to use an M60 Machine Gun in this TeleMovie?
"Give me two Australia division and I will conquer the world" - Erwin Rommel
And a New Zealand division to hold it.
And it was Hell he would take not the world.
@@heritagehound7565 I have actually misquoted Rommel on this one. The actual quote goes "If I had to take hell, I would use the Australians to take it and the New Zealanders to hold it". However, there is a good chance that this quote is apocryphal. Which I didn't know when I made this comment 9 years ago.
@GioZakc I'm reckoning that Ski82PL has mistaken the red/white battalion colour patches on the AUSTRALIAN uniforms for the Polish flag.
What movie is this and when was it made?
what movie is this from?
@Kaaleb68 The K98K was only used in WWII.
Hey, HUGE war movie buff, but I don't recognize this. What's it from?
Try the terms SAPs or SAPPERS Tunneling Mining Bridgeworks and other Military Terms. Most will find Battle Field Engineering goes back longer then they think. Its not NEW its just been re-advised and re-adapted
@RobsonRockMachine What I posted 2 days ago was an observation that Poland seems to be on peoples "first to conqour" list in Europe alot, but then added that they are fierce fighters that stand up for themselves. see WW1 and 2. I dont know why your attcking what I said. oh and BTW Australia hasnt been a colony since 1901.
Pretty sure a German platoon would not advance to the front like they were going to a picnic. It would be a much shorter war if that was the case.
@LambdaZetaTeke used yes, but not widely at all. the American civil war was still steeped in the tactics of the previous 150 years of warfare.
@AlexDeLarge90
usmctanks1 was correct. I am a former US Army officer and I hold a degree in history. All you need to do is look at Vicksburg and Petersburg, to see the genesis of trench warfare.
The repeating rifle, railway guns, and machine guns (in the form of Dr Gatling's invention) were all introduced during the US Civil War.
Its not a Polish flag, its a regimental patch used by the ANZAC'S (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) this regiment is Australian and the Colonel is with the (Lancashire Fusiliers) a British Army regiment, no Polish in this even though the patch looks like the Polish flag it is just a tactical badge. The 2 regiments also fought at Gallipoli together against the Ottoman Turks.
Incorrect on the French point. The French and British armor (tanks in particular) were superior to the Germans, and they had more of them. The tactics hadn't kept up with the times, however. Even Erwin Rommel acknowledged that had the tanks been deployed en masse however the invasion of France could've been stopped.
This was,nt Hazebrouck.... It was the Nieppe Forest.
@LambdaZetaTeke Repeating rifles with caps was usde firstly by the Prussians actually.
But Id go to say that it was the invention of the rifle that first that truly gave birth to trench warefare during the Crimean.
@MrTorisek
In Europe, the Russian (Eastern) movies are not distributed or I don't think they are...
I have watched their clips on UA-cam.
"Enemy at gates"? The movie director is French or Belgian, with English and American actors! I don't know "Konwój PQ-17"
I was wondering why the Poles would be using Enfield SMLE's.
You will find its the Colour Patch of the 8th Battalion 1st AIF Above the Colour Patch on the eppulette is the Dressing The word AUSTRALIA which signified they were Australian Soldiers Colour Patches do not signify Nationality but what unit they are battalion or division. No doubt the Poles during WW2 fought with extreme courage but the above video was a TV Adaption of one Battalion during World War One and the ANZAC Corps that fought on the Western Front. Remember this video was a TV Series
it looks that even our small country can tell smtg... - do U wkwno who was cpt Raginis - and what did his troops at Wizma?
@AlexanderCCXXII Best would be the P17 Enfield, Made in the US for the 30/06 to an Enfield design, ripped off from Mauser.
@Tomenable You're right but at the same time it can't be said it was actually better. They had different strengths and weaknesses. The Mauser was the more accurate weapon and could bring fire to bear over a longer range. The .303 through quicker bolt action and a 10 round capacity was capable of much more rapid fire. I'd say that in the 14,18 conflict the strengths of .303 would make it the better rifler to have.
@colbythegrimm trench warfare been around since the seven year war in 1756.maybe even before that.
In 1939 Germans had to few modern warfare. Poles were using anti-tank rifle and anti tank gun(37 Boffors) and it worked. Huge problem was Luftwaffe with BF 109. France had chance in 3rd week of war. In Early 1940 German generals didn't repeat the same mistakes. They had proper supplying more AMV. More over France had Enigma code and working machine from Polish Inteligence and they did not used it.
It's a colour patch, used to identify units. Each one has a different colour and there are different shapes and combinations. It's not a flag.
@LambdaZetaTeke
if Civil War drags on for several decades. steampunk technology is expected to appear :P
@thebigJM92 Only because they did'nt have the Lee-Enfield No1 Mk3 .303! Though i note for the record that at 2.06/2.07, the silly bastard seemed to jam the bolt. Just like the Sikh soldier in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
The difference between the US Marine Corp and the Anzacs is very minimal. I'm not talking about equipment wise, i'm saying that both were used as shock troops and were taught and told to conserve resources.
In terms of battle spirit and efficiency on the battlefield, the Anzacs is on par with the US Marine Corp.
For some battles which proved the combat readiness of the Anzacs
Search up
Battle of Hamel - WWI
Battle of Torbruk - WWII
Battle of Long Tan - Vietnam
bollocks
WOW..!!! In three minutes.....three time the same scene.... What a movie !!!!
It was a TV series not a movie.
gnarkillkicksass -- ........who cares, the concept does not change.
You are right. But Poles were fighting in France ("Blue Army") in French uniforms, and in Austria-Hungary in Polish uniforms against Russia., and In Russia against Germans. They refused fighting for Kaiser and commanders were imprisoned by Germans. Many Poles, (as Italians and Irish men) were fighting in American Units (without Polish signs on the uniforms).
@robo1945 They're Australians mate. The battalion colour patch merely resembled the Polish flag. Google 8th Battalion AIF for clarity.
2:02 isn't that Paul Hogan aka Crocodile Dundee
Smart move. Mauser 98 Karabiner 7.92 infantry rifle Vs. Lee Enfield IV 303 infantry rifle.
I'm English, but don't take that as a bias. The wikipedia article is easy to quote from, thats why I used it, but it is clear to see that after the battle of Amien, and the subsequent breakthrough of the Hindenburg line, there was no hope for German victory on the Western Front.
Pulse rifle - best rifle ever made.
whether Poles are sometimes not?
@LambdaZetaTeke I wonder how much attention was paid by Confederate and Union commanders to the Crimean War in the 1850s? A few comparisons come to mind. Trench warfare, the decline of cavalry on the battlefield in the direct assault role, mass use of rifled weapons and breach loading artillery. Not to mention battlefield medical care. (or the lack of it!)
@TaZ101SAGA
i like the mauser more, it just fits better in my hands;)
is that crocadile dundee??
@KlifeRR those are the colors of the Dragoons, or cavalry
@uryakant919 'becust' and 'bollet's aren't words.
@4rcher91 This is a movie about the first world war.
Fun fact - in ww2 Australian forces were the only ones present at the first land defeats of both Germany and Japan.
Interesting that the Pommy Lt Colonel had a jam on his rifle because the magazine was miss loaded: Rims on the wrong side of the round below!
@MrPearlJack Kar98k is less accurate past 400 yards, bolt takes long to manipulate and is more difficult under stress, Lee-Enfield has ten rounds, 98k has five, Enfield has better long range sights (No4 Micrometre sights).
Lee-Enfield wins, I do love Mausers but for a combat situation the Enfield is more preferable.
A technical note: the French did in fact possess superior tank forces at the beginning of the war, both in quality and quantity deployed on the Western Front. The Germans used only light and medium tanks, while the French possessed such heavies as the Char B. However, the French tanks were deployed mainly as defensive buttresses for infantry forces. As such, despite a few impressive local engagements, French armour did not play anything like the role of the concentrated German spearheads.
You’re referring to WW2, this battle is in WW1.
That was in ww2 this is ww1. Re tanks.
@Ski82PL And btw they are Australian troops not polish !
@stusurf1
but the pilot of the enola gay tried several times, after he realized, what kind of destruction he brought to the people.
@DavidFromHolland The Einfield Mk 3 was a very nice gun, have a google of it and see.
@zed664 Well thats alright, I can understand that. It is a great rifle :D, very successful and rich history, but I was basing that opinion on the statistics and not personal preference.
This is mere silliness. These countries clung to their neutrality in the face of Allied negotiations to at least permit coordinated defensive preparations. Moreover, the suggestion that these countries with relatively tiny forces would up and invade Germany had Britain simply asked is like saying Slovenia would fly to the moon if Spain just phrased the request politely.
i agree but us brits took a lot of causalties in the war.
on july1 1916 lost 57,000 men wounded or dead in 1 morning
also in 1917 britain lost more men than they had in the first 3 years of fighting
@jizzinmypants191919: I disagree. The Lee-Enfield may have been a bolt-action weapon, but in the hands of trained men it could seem like machine gun fire. Just ask the Germans at Mons in 1914.
Is that Paul Hogan at 2:01?
@LambdaZetaTeke spot-on...one of the reasons for the American Civil War's high casualties and brutal nature was the juxtaposition of outdated "Napoleonic" warfare with modern "amenities" like automatic weapons, repeating rifles, and the high number of troops armed with rifled instead of smooth-bore muskets...
i always tell people: WW1 was born on Civil War battlefields. the parallels are frighteningly accurate. it was a sad, bloody mess =/
Wait ... Have you seen the difference in size between Belgium and Germany?
@bluenose4344
yes, true indeed, in the 16th century, wooden baskets filled with sand.
It is true that the tactics didn't keep up. And yes they had more tanks, but they were somewhat slow. The French also relied on large bunker complexes. However these complexes, as strong they might be relied on static front lines, and they weren't static anymore. Another thing to keep in mind was that Germany had absolute air supremacy, rendering many fortifications obsolete.
The last thing: Many in Europe were in doubt of who they should support. The German economy was great. There's weren't
hehehe - I know regimental colours all of 41 cav reg of polish amry in 39. I havent learns ausies colours, there was no need - but it looks that by accident - they were in colours like polish flag.
my mistake form above is that tcommonwealth troops worn not flags on shoulder - but a badge with naqtion like ausiee,kiwi, polish canadian etc.... my mistake.
Australian with polish flag? Please, tell me why?
true, the germans hated fighting them, they would say that no matter what was done cdns, aus, kiwi would not give up, only fight harder.
lee enfield and mauser, Both best Rifles. I love them Both.
@Ski82PL Poland first to be over run and occupied. seems the norm really. but to your credit you did stick around to fight hard with those that would liberate you.
how did I get from zombies to here???
@TheTERM1000 I know its france Dude! But they are australian troops it was a tv series called the Anzac's !!
@goatboyful Ha ha I hadn't noticed that! Good job it was during a brief lull in the fighting!
To everyone writing that this is polish army action, quite frankly you are all fools. The read and white is a Unit insignia of the 8th Battalion of the AIF during world war 1, For those who don't know the AIF was Australian that fought from the beginning thought to the end of the war. This scene was from a 1985 series that appeared on Australian tv, it was known as ANZACS.
@rofflemows2 hmm...I'd call ACW(and the crimean war) for the first industrial wars but its still not modern warfare.
The practicality and effect of a fully automatic machine gun in no way compares to a cumbersome hand-cranked Gatling.
The fact that repeaters and automatics got more effective and turned into a hand-weapon makes all the different.
Bloody hell crocodile Dundee was in the Polish army before he went walkabout! 0:19
Advance through open field.... Of course...
@ShahOfBlahII
Thanks for the info!
Even if it is "just" a TV fiction, such kind of silly situations are not acceptable.
The context is war and war is hell on earth. It is a "must" to respect dead soldiers of ALL uniforms representing them in a more accurate realistic way.
I'm sorry but I'm so strict when I deal with war and its awful horror.
These are Anzacs, Australia and New Zealand Army Corps, and they are the loyalist and bravest fuckers you would ever wish to go into battle with. From a Pom ex squaddie.
isn't that crocodile dundee?
I've got a quote to back up my claim, 'In November 1918 the Allies had ample supplies of men and materiel to invade Germany. Yet at the time of the armistice, no Allied force had crossed the German frontier; the Western Front was still almost 900 mi (1,400 km) from Berlin; and the Kaiser's armies had retreated from the battlefield in good order.' This is taken from the wikipedia article on world war one. I think my claim has a little more depth than yours.
I wonder how much longer that would have lasted had the Armistice not been signed. I don't think the new German government wanted to find out.
@rofflemows2 That's probably what i was thinking of, the Minie ball.
Even in a victorious battle, soldiers die. Just fewer of them than on the losing side.
@Lumotaku Is General Patton God? No. It's just my opinion. Although I rate the Garand very highly just like the L-E.
@TaZ101SAGA besides the Mosin Nagant
@strudel89 This engagement occurred in the open country as opposed to static trench warfare during the German Spring Offensive of 1918. And why shouldn't this particular film reflect the reality of what happened regarding odds/tactics? The Aussies this depicts weren't labled "The saviours of Amiens" by the locals for nothing.
@LiveJoyDivision I wasn't comparing them, I was trying to show you (But failed) how weapons that have killed more people aren't necessarily better weapons, read the comment properly and you'll realize I wasn't comparing them at all. Overall yes, the Mauser is probably a better design, it's much more refined than the Enfield, but for combat, the Enfield is more effective, it emerged on the winning side...twice, for a start. The Mauser action has been more successful than the Enfields however.
Paul Hogan?
@AlfonsoTheGod I mean't of it's time period.