Porsche GT4RS VS Ferrari 458 Italia - If You Could Only Have One (REVIEW)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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In today's epic showdown, we're kicking off our brand-new 'Tournament Series' with two automotive titans: The Porsche Cayman GT4RS and the Ferrari 458 Italia. These aren't just any cars; they represent the end of an era. As the final internal combustion engine Cayman, the GT4RS carries with it Porsche's legendary engineering legacy. On the other side, we have the 458 Italia, Ferrari's swan song to its naturally aspirated mid-engine V8s.
Through 10 rigorous categories - Appearance, Interior, Performance, Gearbox, Sound, Market Value, Future Investment, Date Night, Experience, and Handling & Braking - we dive deep, analyzing every nuance and detail to crown a champion. Which of these final breed of legends will stand tall at the end? Dive in to discover the winner in this thrilling face-off. Remember, history is written by the victors, and today, we're about to ink a chapter!
Get ready for a ride filled with passion, history, and unparalleled automotive brilliance. Buckle up! 🏎️🔥🏁
#ferrari #ferrari458 #458italia #caymangt4rs #caymanGT4 #gt4rs #gt3rs #porschegt4rs - Авто та транспорт
When you put the 458 in Race mode without Bumpy Road, it's pretty firm as well. But it's not a race car for the road like the GT4RS is. It's a supercar that 14 years later still looks, sounds, and performs amazing. That's why it gets all the attention, especially in its proper color: Rosso Corsa. Thanks for the review!
Ross’s Corsa Is stunning. Thank you so much for your comment my friend 🙏🏻
Yes, man.... but all of us are buying finally ONLY the 458... THE WONDER OF SPORT CARS EVER !
It’s awesome
My categories regards sportcars: 1.Handling 2.Sound 3.Looks..the RS is a clear Winner beside the look. Even i always liked the 458. It’s a great package especially as a spider.
Comment on point
I have to say, I tried the 458 italia on track and a gt3 991 the same day, I am a Ferrari guy and tbh I don’t like people owning a Porsche … it’s just a stereotype but IRL unfortunately it is true ! But trying Porsche and Ferrari the same day on track .. man the difference is huge .. if somebody drives motorcycles driving a Porsche is like driving a 4 wheel sports bike … it’s just crazy .. the feedback, the balance … it’s fucking crazy ! I fell in love with Porsche GT since then and that’s what I’m buying … but when it comes to Ferrari .. 458 italia by experience is THE BEST FERRARI you can buy, forget the new stuff, it’s about the experience … for anybody reading me .. try cars before buying .. it changes A LOT
Comment on point. Couldn’t agree more about both the 458 and Porsche GT cars
You’ve just explained the dilemma of owning a Porsche. Nothing else can compare. The Ferrari only makes sense when you already have a GT4RS to quench your driver thirst. By the way, sound comparison is key for me. Great video bro!
Thank you my friend. Appreciate you. Hard to compare anything to the 4RS at this price point. I’m in love.
Gt4rs makes too many noises while driving, sold it after owning for three months. The experience was too terrible!
Bro, this format rocks. Brings me back to my early enthusiast days when I would do this kind of chart to compare cars I looking to buy. Look forward to the next one, suggestion 718 GT4 vs Emira
Would love to do this… will try to make it happen
Great videos, one note though - your audio keeps clipping. Would advise you to use 32bit recorder
Will get the new Rode that’s 32 bit. Thanks for your feedback 🙏🏻
I like the review format.
Would like to see your review of other track focused supercars like the speciale, performante or pista to see how they compare to the GT4RS.
I'll be looking for a more hardcore car next to go along side the 458 Italia and I'm leaning towards a performante or a pista (if they keep dropping).
Perf or Pista are great. I’ve thought about that acquisition many times haha. Make sure you pay attention to the 765 as well. It makes those other two seem ordinary.
@@MiamiMiles being British you'd think I'd be more interested in McLaren 😂 and I was, before my bro got a 570s, and I was a bit disappointed by the interior, the sound, and the low down torque. I prefer almost everything about the 458, and feels more roomier and special inside.
Maybe I'll check out 765lt though 👍
Great vid and love the new format. It’s more organized and I like the grading system. Not a coincidence but these were my 2 choices as well, ended up with the 4RS. The bottom line was I love track days and the 4RS is better for that than the 458. In a perfect world, I’d have both, but no room in the garage for another car unless I trade my 981 Cayman S that’s a fantastic daily (I put 15,000 miles a year on it) in for another relatively impractical vehicle I can’t really daily and freak out over door dings or worry about in a downtown parking garage on a Saturday night.
Don’t blame your decision. Excellent choice and reasoning
458 Next car Im getting
Def the dream car when i was a kid. That thing is sick!! cant wait to scoop it this year and drive it around miami as well.
What do you think. Getting traditional vs spider? Was thinking spider to be able to drive it down with the gorgeous miami weather we get
Spider my friend.
Wow man , what a way to score and categories. Instantly subscribed and liked. Keep pushing these amazing reviews man
Will do my friend. Thank you
Gotta love those perimeter roads. Excellent video Dude! Really liking the VS format.
Happy you enjoyed it. Perimeter roads for Miami are peak 😀
Misha said front end grip much better on the 911 GT3 (992) at the Nurburgring
4RS is a dream car, just as much of The CGT, both porsche's peak engineering and musical symphony on the road, truely both end of an era in both design and exciting exhilarating performance. More smiles per gallon of gas indeed!
Comment on point. A couple decades from now people will be losing their shit over these
Great review and makes prefect sense to me! I absolutely LOVE my GT4 RS both on and off the track. My wife much prefers a softer more comfortable and quite ride. A buddie and I swapped cars the other day and I put some miles on his McLaren Artura. Very sexy, like any McLaren, and extremely quick. What it lacked was the raw excitement of my 4 RS. The 4 RS is just bonkers to drive when you push it and feels so damn planted. It just gives you confidence, particularly on track. I love it. Also was lucky enough to pick it up for MSRP so very fortunate. After a bunch of extra carbon, a roll cage, belts etc, "only" into it for roughly $225,000. After watching your clips and following others GT4 RS owners, might need a SOUL exhaust. At least the over axle. I'm sure it's in your clips somewhere but what set up do you have for the exhaust on your 4RS? Sounds sick..
he has the full soul setup im pretty sure, headers and all
Headers, catted OAP’s and valved rear. Best investment I’ve ever made. If you think the car is exciting stock, wait til you add 15% more power and 25% more midrange punch. It is unbelievable
@@MiamiMiles nice and great to know! Going to Kelly Moss for a track alignment in a couple of weeks. Might say fuck it and follow your lead. 😂🤷🏼♂️🏁
After I made that initial comment, I watched the full Soul GT4 RS exhaust option vid you posted. Super helpful! Thx man.
The 458 Italia is a perfect sports car and daily. The GT4 RS is a more a race car then a sports car! HARDER, FASTER, LOUDER! When you drive over a coin you feel which side was up side 😉. Another big thing are the most extreme downshifts ever heard with zero delay!
What's interesting is when you actually get to the stage where you can afford either (one of them only) a Porsche or a Ferrari and use it as a daily drive, have a few track days etc... then there's only one option - one will do it all in it's stride and you'll just have to worry about normal maintenance, the other will give you a constant fear that it's going to get very expensive at some point and it's not worth the fuss.
Yea… agreed. Fortunately I got mine certified with 2 years full warranty. If this car didn’t have warranty, I don’t think I’d sign up for it
For long term investment though, the 458 has long stopped depreciating and will likely only go up. If you buy one now, you'll likely make money reselling it 1, 10, or 20 years from now. Whereas the GT4RS price will depreciate and you'll lose money selling it 1 or 10 years from now. It may take 20 or more years before it gets even close to the price you bought it for.
Good point.
really good point
Rs products don't depreciate.
@@briansnow2001 Of course they do. Porsche are still making the 4RS. You can pick up a used one for $70k less than people were paying a year ago. Anyone who paid overs for a 4RS must be feeling it.
one is designed to use on roads, the other is designed to use on tracks, I guess the 488 Pista will win the GT4 RS, but no one will compare top models of the same generation, like F8, 750s and GT4 RS, guess the manufacturers will stop any UA-camr doing that
The owner of both wins! 🎉 great video my broooo. Love both cars 🙌🏻💪🏻
Thank you Uncle Pete!!!!!!!!!
Porsche there is no substitutes! I have a 2011 Porsche cayenne Turbo, and its my baby. Thank you for your non-biased opinion a true owner of both brands.
Thank you for your comment 🙏🏻
Do more bro ! Love these kind of episode ! Absolutely don’t mind used 10 years old cars
Thank you for your comment. Will do 🙏🏻
Coming from someone who has Porsches and an RS among them, being totally objective, the Porsche can never match Ferraris for looks and street cred. The Ferrari is all about “look at me” and it’s a wonderful showboat but some of us aren’t looking for that. I love Porsches for just how good they are all round. The PDK is a work of genius. At the end of the day, how can you go wrong with either marque
Is true the 458 is stunning. The 4RS in Miami gets zero attention unless your a car guy then is a beautiful car .
Indeed my brother. 458 is so sexy. 4RS is a weapon
458 with a Vorsteiner front spoiler and rear deck lid and diffuser is 🤌
Agreed looks incredible
Ferrari any day for me. Porsche would be better as a track car on the weekends or something.
The Ferrari that more of a direct comparison with the 4RS is the SCUD. In all respects: weight, power, excitement, feel.
Yea I really need to make that video... Need to find me a scud to review
How about cost of ownership and reliability under duress. My money on the Porsche. Would be another good category. Great video thank you
Yes that is a great category. Thank you for the idea
You showed up on the algorithm grats
Thank you 🙏🏻
Another great video buddy . Both cars are awesome . I love my 458 spider it’s a keeper for me .. and God willing I will see a gt4 RS in my future as well 😁 .. the prices will keep going up on these two in the future ..
Comment on point my friend. Enjoy the 458. It is an incredible car and definitely a keeper. Can't wait for you to get a 3RS as well :)
Video views of your GT4RS have generally outperformed other cars videos on your channel. This was another good video. Should’ve kept the 4RS!
Good point. Happy you enjoyed the 4RS vids. I’m excited to move on to something different
Funny to come across this vid as both are on the market where I live, so obviously I’ve asked myself the same question.
Very difficult decision. Hope the video helped.
Loved the format!…not sure that you need both market value and long term. Maybe a daily vs weekend instead?
Appreciate the feedback my friend
Put a kw suspension and a fabspeed raceline exaust and you would be singing another song…. Italia all day with a little help en a fair comparación no in term of price but all arround car he should have compared that gt4 rs agaisnt the 458 speciale:)
Good point. I’m sure with the right exhaust setup it is crazy
@@MiamiMiles dude if you are bored one day check those clips , is exquisite 👌
Excellent review. The decimals are much appreciated -- precision matters. Inclined to agree with your rating numbers. I also can't believe how good the GT4RS sounds when it's screaming! Otherworldly sounds.
(Last ICE Cayman? That is so, so wrong)
Thanks for the feedback. Happy you enjoyed the video and the ratings
When I say the last internal combustion Cayman, I know there is a Spyder coming. That’s not a Cayman tho. After that, is there anything other non-electric Cayman? I believe Porsche has said this is it multiple times.
@@MiamiMiles You got it. Really nice job on the video. I didn't mean to claim you were incorrect. I hadn't heard about it and just meant if they're going that route, it's "wrong" as in "I strongly disapprove."
458 is beautiful.
Try to keep it out of the sun. I only hear of sticky buttons from USA owners, I guess coz of the heat in Cali and Florida. My UK 458 looks factory new inside.
I have some stick and the car is never in the sun. Definitely an issue out here
This is literally the exact video I was looking for
Happy you found it
such a cool format. May I ask you why do you prefer the gt4rs over a gt3rs? is it the intake noise? the "mid-engineess"? Would love to just see them in person one day
Intake noise and size are the two variables that make it a little more fun on the road
@@MiamiMiles thank you for your response and for sharing top notch content with us
10/10 video. I need both in my life
Yep. Both in garage is definitely a great combo
nothing beats italian red leather. period. ferrari makes the porsche look like a frog, and that GT4RS is one of the most beautiful porsches I've ever seen lol
That is crazy, I wouldn't have thought the gt4rs would win... But, it makes sense. I think I'd have to agree.
street 458 - track 4rs
Good stuff. Loving the gt4rs info
Thank you my friend
this is exactly my dilemma. I love the 458 growing up to it on posters and in reviews but the gt4rs is the wise man choice, much cheaper to run, insure and it comes on top with warranty. if the 458 goes bad, as usually italian supercars go :), you end up with invoiced amounts that look like telephone numbers :)
Yesss. Already happened to mine. That being said I was still under warranty. Power 15 is awesome
Didn’t The GT4RS Come Out After The 458? Isn’t That GT4RS Upgraded By Weissach? Yeah That’s What I Thought… Ferrari 458 Italia Is A Better Car… Y’all Gotta Stop Hating and Give The Honest Truth
No hating. This video is my truth. Love both cars but the 4RS is better
Which one do you recommend?
4RS
Great comparison!!! Keep making them
Will do 🫡
Idk man I think the GT4 is one of the most beautiful cars ever to me. I’m obsessed with it.
which one is easier to drift ?
458
Some people see Ferrari as Hermes. After they claim they worked hard for their money they would still want to spend it on something imperfect; and that is sometimes what a Ferrari is. Some people see Ferrari as the hit brand, but sometimes other brands do better. A GT product from Porsche would sometimes make a Ferrari seem like the money spent on the Ferrari is payment to own a portion of brand hype; meanwhile some people want a flawless and stellar product. A Porsche GT product with the same amount of power as its Ferrari rivals would make Ferrari seem like the engineers who designed the Ferrari vehicles were playing on their phone, instead of designing a vehicle with robust build quality.
Need a pair of cars that complements each other. The PDK is great but lacks the character or engagement of the 997 RS.
Yep. Can’t wait to do that video
Great Video Bro just subscribed am a new fan of your channel 🙏🔥🔥💯🇿🇦
Thank you for your subscription! Appreciate you. Can't wait to make some awesome content that can enjoy :)
Really well made video. Thanks. The gt4 rs is my all time dream car
Great dream car my friend
First watch of your channel, great video! Subscribed 👍
Happy you enjoyed it my friend
Literally function vs form. They’re completely different cars. One’s a no compromise track tool. One’s a fast, look at me street car.
Yep… exactly what I think. But the 458 is a better experience than you would think. It’s surprising, but it’s not a GT4RS
I’m not sure where you get the fractional rating system from? Just go with whole number. That makes you more authentic. Your current system looks a bit pretentious
I went fractional because I made a mock spreadsheet with all the cars I had driven. I noticed that there was too much overlap in ratings and no way to further way to differentiate two cars that were very close. Not pretentious, just trying to be specific.
Almost completely arbitrary weighting to classes for scores. e.g.- date night isn’t as important as performance- why are they both 10s? This exercise didn’t make sense.
Not as important to you 😃 not meant to be… it’s what I care about.
regarding the engine of the 458, you should listen and feel the F12...
Haven’t driven the F12. Had extensive time in 812. Couldn’t agree more about the V12
I am SOOOOO glad I got my hands on a GT4 RS at regular sticker price in Zürich. Will never ever sell it. It’s my favorite car in my garage!
So happy for you. An excellent acquisition
I really enjoyed that!! nice comparison... top
Thank you my friend
Would have been a great video if you had simply omitted your opinion about appearance. I’m 💯 team Italia however I think that this point should be left up to the viewer.
@@gregorythomas4470 fair point
It's pretty crazy how the 5th fastest Porsche is faster than a Ferrari 458.
But its not in reality. Go look at the times. Still, the 458 is 12 years old. Take the slowest new Ferrari and see what happens.
A new Porsche against a14 year older Ferrari and the total point difference is 0.1? Porsche has a long way to go to match Ferrari.
That was Ferrari pinnacle though. I don't like the new ones besides 812
I don't find modern Porsches to be all that good looking; that goes for the GT4 RS. Might be fast but it's rather bland to me. Not good, not bad. Like just OK.
Agreed
Sick two icons and keepers for a long time. If I could have one only, as considering i wouldn't be on the track often...I'd have the ferrari all day.
Totally agree regarding the looks of the GT4 rs especially those tail lights.
Can’t blame you for your decision. For me it’s a toss up almost, but If I was going to keep one for life it would be the 4RS
Deciding between gt4 rs and ferrari will be the hardest decision i ever made.
4RS for excitement
For that price range, the gallardo perfomante is the best option
Great option. Much more old school than these, but you can’t go wrong with that lambo
And now the value of GT4RS is dropping faster than my 458 keys to the ground
True... The values have been destroyed
Comes down to whether you want to pick up guys on South Beach or girls lol
That should be the category. Gonna get you more dudes or girls on south beach 😂
@@MiamiMiles defo. My GT4 almost has zero appeal to my wife...just complains about the bucket seats and the noise She does like the Shark Blue colour though.
For date night, after the date; wifey would tell her friends of how her husband's car was tested in Germany and they would want to go there for a holiday.
Sounds like my wife
Perfect video ❤❤ thanks
Thank you for your comment 🙏🏻
Awesome video!
Thank you my friend
458 sounds amazing. That 4RS sounds like crap outside, based on stationary reving, anyway. Personal opinion. The magic sound is on the inside. But I’d take a spyder rs, fo sho.
But then the 458 is 10 years old, and it’s still in the conversation. Kudos Ferrari.
Agreed… 4RS from outside when rolling sounds insane. I think because this car doesn’t have a valve controller, when reviving stationary, it stays in the valved close path as it never exceeds 4k RPM. When you unleash it to 8-9k it sounds like a proper GT Car. Also, the fact that the Ferrari made it so close is indeed a huge accomplishment for 10 years later. Just incredible
Nice video to watch👌
Thank you 🙏🏻
My 2 fav cars. Nice review
Thank you 👍🏻
Looks are “subjective”! You may find beauty were others find fugly 😂
Agreed. Can't debate this comment
all things after purchase being equal then 458 for sure
Not a bad choice 😉
How tall are you? It seems like you’re pretty close to both wheels.
Just over 6’0
@@MiamiMiles Figured you were about 6’2
The thing about Porsche is you don't really have to worry about them draining your bank account while refusing to turn on. Nothing can really sate the lust for a Ferrari, but unless you have piles of cash to burn... 🤷♂
Facts
porsche = conventional. ferrari= different. - from owner of both.
Agree 100%
Red interior is a major L
Apparently aliens do exist. Because you obviously are on another planet. This this earth and everyone on earth would take a 458 over a poor man's 911
Drive them both before making comments 😁
Always the Ferrari
Awesome content bro. The question is, which one would get you the most ass :D
458… sounds like an epic category for the next review 😂
Ferrari desperately needs BBS’s
That and it needs to be lowered IMO
458 is mine
Yeah 458 all
The way. Sound better. Value better. Cache way better. I own 3 Porsches. People don’t know you car from a basic Porsche. But, they all know Ferrari. Sorry boys. They are not that close and future values will be shown. Trying to make yourself feel better. lol
All true
You seem a little bias Ferrari fan boy 😅
That’s what you got from that video? What you 🚬
I owned cayman gts2.5 and a 488gtb.. i prefer the gts more in terms of handling , driving experience.
488gtb looks good and sounds great
Come back in 12 years and no one will be talking about a 4RS, but today you are comparing a car that is 12 years behind in development and it's .2 behind a Porsche RS , says alot about the staying power of Ferrari.
First part about your comment… I don’t agree. 12 years from now, the 4RS will be sought after. The car is epic. Second part of your comment, I agree. 458 was so far ahead of its time. Back then Ferrari was king. 458 is a masterpiece.
I own 458 now
And book 4rs
I might keep 4rs
Good choice 😃
@@MiamiMiles thx bro
First comment... love your work man
Appreciate you for being first 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Lost me on “GT4RS is not beautiful”
It puts hair on your balls. Lol.
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Bolsters up the crack 😂
Literally a pain in the ass
I ❤Porsche ❤❤❤
Me too 😍
I like steering wheel in porsche much more then weird one in ferrari
porsche is better than ferrari
Can’t blame you 😎