If you're interested in a new fork or any other bike, outdoor gear, visit Competitive Cyclist's website and use LOAMWOLF15 for 15% off applicable items. • Fox 38: alnk.to/dAfuLMD
00:00 Intro 00:22 The Lab | Getting to know the In's and Outs of the new 38 08:25 The Dirt | Our Review Support us by buying from our official retail partner, Competitive Cyclist and use LOAMWOLF15 for 15% off www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/search.jsp?s=u&q=fox%20racing%20shox%2038&avad=219053_c1c7597b5 Use code "LOAMWOLF15" to take 15% off your first order on full-priced items (exclusions apply)
Awesome thank you... After we finished we realized "crap, this is going to be way too long" but we figured some people may want to know more, the rest can fast forward. haha.
Thanks for the excellent info been using Fox forks since early 2000 have been riding naturally aspirated and e-bikes the last 3 years just picked up Reign +1 3wks ago used your info to fine tune unreal 👌 Cheers mate, Herron W.A
no. the 38 of my friend are creakying like hell on the csu. and unfortunately he has a dispute with fox germany, because fox said that this is not a warranty case.
I hope they have reduced the amount of CSU issues for the cost of these things. Performance v reliability. Seems fox doesn’t put the emphasis on the latter!
Head to head with the Zeb! I've already bought a Zeb and will be installing it soon. Just want to see if I'm missing anything versus the Fox 38. At 60 I'm not a radical enough rider to justify the extra cost between the two. Just a fat ass that wants the plusher ride with that extra stiffness on my new e mtn bike.
10:20 "we didn't believe this was a factory fork, we thought they might have gave it the race tune" That's literally what factory means. Its the same fork they give the fox factory riders. Even in motocross, a factory bike costs about $300,000 where as a regular one costs about $8,000. That's why they are called factory riders. Either way, amazing review. I just wanted to point that out for anyone wondering. Factory means the best. Literally no better. Google "what does factory bike mean?"
6:30 this is not true the channels have nothing to do with the air in the lower legs. If you watch Vorsprungs tear down video he explains that the natural air volume in the lowers was adding a lot of "untunable" progression which sucked for light riders. However the new 38 actual uses a 36mm air shaft in a second tube which lets the air from the lowers flow up and around the airspring/tube creating a larger "lower leg" volume and therefore stopping the unwanted progression.
Perhaps Vorsprung knows more than Fox's own Q&A sheet and engineers then? This is directly from Fox, and how we reported it. Q: What are the ridges on the back of the fork legs? A: Those ridges are internal channels that dramatically increase air volume in the lower legs, reducing pressure buildup near bottom out, and allow bath oil to lubricate the foam rings, seals and bushings as the fork compresses and extends.
@@TheLoamWolf I mean they are technically correct However the channels wouldn't make much difference in the grand scheme of things probs Marketing departments idea. Anyway if you watch the teardown it's super interesting the amount of work they put in to redesigning the Airspring to give it a coil like feel.
Depending on how much you weigh and/or how aggressive of a rider you are, either could work. We'd say that for most riders and this category of bike, the 36 will be pretty solid way to go. That's what we put on ours and put the 38 on the full power Levo.
If you're interested in a new fork or any other bike, outdoor gear, visit Competitive Cyclist's website and use LOAMWOLF15 for 15% off applicable items.
• Fox 38: alnk.to/dAfuLMD
Absolutely please do a 38 vs zeb! I have spoken, this is the way
00:00 Intro
00:22 The Lab | Getting to know the In's and Outs of the new 38
08:25 The Dirt | Our Review
Support us by buying from our official retail partner, Competitive Cyclist and use LOAMWOLF15 for 15% off
www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/search.jsp?s=u&q=fox%20racing%20shox%2038&avad=219053_c1c7597b5
Use code "LOAMWOLF15" to take 15% off your first order on full-priced items (exclusions apply)
The Loam Wolf I was 1st... do I get a prize?
Jake Miers you get a big thumbs up and a virtual hug! If you’re first two times in a row we’ll send you a sticker pack.
Alright
Yes I would like to see the 38’s do battle!!! I am not sure yet witch one I would like to purchase so please do the vid!
Zeb vs 38 please, I want to upgrade but don't know which one I'd want more.
Zeb for budget, 38 for performance
yes that's the vid everyone wants. Can't imagine @Antti Haring tried both, probably just talking out of bunghole.
@@TeamCykelhold I'm sure the ZEB works as well as the 38 or Sam Hill probably wouldn't be using it.
You know we want it!
Yes please. I have a custom Trek Rail 9.7 and I already upgraded to a Lyrik. Now I'm thinking about the ZEB.
Yes definitely do a head to head comparison between Zeb and 38!!!
Sweet review. Thank you for going into the technical details of the fork. That's my favorite color that Fox has done.
Awesome thank you... After we finished we realized "crap, this is going to be way too long" but we figured some people may want to know more, the rest can fast forward. haha.
Thanks for the excellent info been using Fox forks since early 2000 have been riding naturally aspirated and e-bikes the last 3 years just picked up Reign +1 3wks ago used your info to fine tune unreal 👌 Cheers mate, Herron W.A
Naturally aspirated!! Hah!
The big bopper fight out - Zeb v 38 💪🏻
Just another awesome review from the crew at LW! Keep up the great work and keep the content flowing. Yes, time for the Zeb to roll head to head.
Thanks very much Paul. We appreciate the feedback and glad to hear you liked it. We'll get to work on mounting that Zeb.
Yes. Do the head to head
I don’t remember ever seeing this colour out on the trails , can’t say I’m a fan
Def head 2 head!! And keep the excellent content coming!!
Argh, I wish I jumped on the Pistachio when it was offered
Pistachio is a beautiful color!
Yes it really is.
Yup, the Fox 38 is the best fork I've ever ridden. Period!
Awesome review! I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear that the suppleness actually seems better!
Way more better! haha.
Yep. I’d love to see a comparison of the Zeb and the 38!
Excellent review and explanation! I want one for my Rail! Please do a comparison with the Zeb though, that would be awesome!
Coming soon!
Great review! H2H with Zeb would be interesting to see & hear! Thx 👍😁
Yes, test ZEB on Trek Rail 9.9 you must do ! :) 2021 Trek Rail will have a ZEB so want like too see you test this
I'd like to see a 38 vs zeb vs mezzer tbh. I'm curious how the underdog punches in this fight
I agree I want to see the battle of the 38’s. The new arch on the fox is not very nice looking too me but not a deal breaker.
when you say that marzocchi stuff from back in the day ? what about todays ? I got a ibis ripmo with Marzocchi Z1 Fork and Air shock
Great Review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Zeb vs 38 please! Gone through 2 CSUs on my 36 in 6 months - @theloamwolf have they fixed this on the 38?
no. the 38 of my friend are creakying like hell on the csu. and unfortunately he has a dispute with fox germany, because fox said that this is not a warranty case.
@@svartaska well shit! That sucks
Get your 36 coil sprung using the push industries upgrade
38 vs Zeb head to head plz!
yes a head to head comparison
Nah.... don't want to see a Zeb v 38 video. /s ....YES we want a Zeb v 38 video!
I hope they have reduced the amount of CSU issues for the cost of these things. Performance v reliability. Seems fox doesn’t put the emphasis on the latter!
Sir when?
Head to head with the Zeb! I've already bought a Zeb and will be installing it soon. Just want to see if I'm missing anything versus the Fox 38. At 60 I'm not a radical enough rider to justify the extra cost between the two. Just a fat ass that wants the plusher ride with that extra stiffness on my new e mtn bike.
Oh ya definitely the head to head
Head to head review!!!
Coming soon!
Yes the 38 vs Zeb world be awesome shoot out
Vvc seems to translate to, wider range but less refinement for advanced riders
Zeb or 38 ??????????
Thoughts compared to the mezzer? I am running one currently and have it as the best fork I have ever run
10:20 "we didn't believe this was a factory fork, we thought they might have gave it the race tune"
That's literally what factory means. Its the same fork they give the fox factory riders.
Even in motocross, a factory bike costs about $300,000 where as a regular one costs about $8,000.
That's why they are called factory riders.
Either way, amazing review. I just wanted to point that out for anyone wondering. Factory means the best. Literally no better.
Google "what does factory bike mean?"
Yes 38 vs Zeb
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I want one on emtb along with new shimano motor and new yt 700 battery....2021 Yt decoy???
Do you think it would be to stiff for a light rider? I’m 150 pounds with gear.
Looking for a Fork for my LEVO SL
Ty for the video.
Would love to see 38 vs. Zeb
Have you ridden the Zeb yet? You can't really say it's the best fork if you aren't comparing it to its competitor.
curious, what were your settings? I'm about the same weight.
For someone 185lbs, would it make sense to stick with the 36? Does that have all the same features but in a lighter package?
Do you have any problemas using a 58mm crown diameter on a 68mm frame? Is that ok this setup?
Lets see the zeb review!
36 vs lyrik
Is this an e-version of the 38 on the trek? im thinking of upgrading, should an e specific fork needed for a 38? tnx
Man, can I add this fork to my 2022 specialized stump jumper comp alloy?
What’s the travel on this fork? I’m about to pick one up.
What shock would you pair this with for 160 travel pedal bike?
Great jersey! Where did you find that one?
Go check it out in our web store or the link in the video description! Limited time offer only. won't be around much longer.
Yes Zeb vs 38
Can you guys do a Zeb vs 38 vs mezzer? Seems the mezzer is fishing in the same pond at a different budget
We'll see what we can do here and try to get one!
@@TheLoamWolf awesome!
6:30 this is not true the channels have nothing to do with the air in the lower legs. If you watch Vorsprungs tear down video he explains that the natural air volume in the lowers was adding a lot of "untunable" progression which sucked for light riders. However the new 38 actual uses a 36mm air shaft in a second tube which lets the air from the lowers flow up and around the airspring/tube creating a larger "lower leg" volume and therefore stopping the unwanted progression.
Perhaps Vorsprung knows more than Fox's own Q&A sheet and engineers then? This is directly from Fox, and how we reported it.
Q: What are the ridges on the back of the fork legs?
A: Those ridges are internal channels that dramatically increase air volume in the lower legs, reducing pressure buildup near bottom out, and allow bath oil to lubricate the foam rings, seals and bushings as the fork compresses and extends.
You could also give this link a check as it is touted by Fox as one of the key new features:
www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=38
@@TheLoamWolf I mean they are technically correct However the channels wouldn't make much difference in the grand scheme of things probs Marketing departments idea. Anyway if you watch the teardown it's super interesting the amount of work they put in to redesigning the Airspring to give it a coil like feel.
@@leomolloy5067 Thanks for the insight Leo.
Better than fox 40?
Is this spot in Lassen or modoc county?
This is like the motortrend, carwow, or Topgear for bikes
Thanks, we think?? Ha ha
Great video!! Thinking of upgrading my Levo SL from the stock Fox 34 to either the 36 or 38. Any recommendations?
Depending on how much you weigh and/or how aggressive of a rider you are, either could work. We'd say that for most riders and this category of bike, the 36 will be pretty solid way to go. That's what we put on ours and put the 38 on the full power Levo.
@@TheLoamWolf Thanks buddy. Kind of leaning that way. Keep up the great videos!!
Setup plssssse
Zeb vs 38!
Its not good for my wallet to watch yopu guys hahaha:p Just gonna end up buy all the things you recommendxD
What are those tires?
How does it compare with the DVO Onyx?
Been a while since we've ridden one, but they have some similarities in suppleness and sensitivity, but based on my old recollection, I'd pick the 38.
Zeb v. 38 please
38vZEB!
Not really fox 38 Santa Cruz nomad ox blood 🩸 different coulor
I guess this is the fork for me lol. But don't have the money
that cheap trick to get comments haha. Here, you get a comment!
YESSSS. It worked!
Hehe👍
You ignores me😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
3rd
Zeb ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????