Fox Float X2 vs Float DPX2 (What's Different & What's Better?)
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2018
- When it comes to the mountain bike rear shock game, there are only a few real players. Among them is the behemoth know as Fox Shox. There has been an ongoing comparison between FOX’s two most popular mountain bike rear shocks, the Float X2 and the Float DPX2. With both mountain bike shocks being excellent performers it’s hard to sum up in a simple “Which is better?” question and answer. In this video, Jeff points out the key differences between these two rear shocks and hopefully helps you make an informed decision between them.
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Fox Float X2 or Float DPX2 - Which would you pick? Let us know!
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I run a DPX2 on my 18 Patrol does real well in all trails rather it be flow lines or raw chatter single track trails in my opinion. I ran the X2 on my previous bike which was the Covert. I feel like the DPX2 is way more simple AND is less complicated but again it's all preferance I'd rather ride more then sit their and ask myself what if I went couple clicks hear....etc ... Ride your bike
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I run the X2 on my Hightower and you are completely spot on about the support and suppleness of the shock!
DPX2 all day on my Canyon Spectral!
This channel came out of nowhere for me and it's so good.
Awesome that you found us! Thanks for watching.
And they always got awesome deals on their website.
Why did I watch this? I ride a hardtail
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@@jonwhite182 I did.. shortly after I made the comment. I now ride a YT Capra
Remedy Talon nice man, how’s it treating ya
@@harrybottmtb8947 I love it, such a beast of a bike!
@@TangoOne what year? Im thinking about buying a 2016 cf pro race
Really like your infomercials. Informative enough to make a decision without too much unnecessary technical details.
I bought a dpx2 yesterday after watching this video. Extremely happy with my purchase after my first ride!
X2 on both my bikes. You've been to Mountain Creek, you know the type of chunk we're dealing with over here lol
Another great review Jeff!
If I had to buy a shock, I would. The twin tube technology is very cool and offers a lot of external adjustment. Although a monotube shock can be re-shimmed to feel pretty amazing as well.
I personally got myself a replacement air shock from Fox for my 1996 Raleigh M-30FS with its original coil spring shock that sometimes bottoms out on hard bumps. I got a 2018 Fox DP Performance shock that was on sale for about $229 from the original price of $319. It was the last shock with the one inch wheel travel and it had the right eyelet to eyelet measurement that I needed which is a 5.5”. I noticed that the cold weather affects the shock from losing the psi and I had to pump up more air. Now it is around 180psi and I weigh about 240 pounds. When I came home than I notice with Rock Shox Air Pump that it went down to 100psi and that is why I have to put more air when I got home. One of the greatest thing about this shock is when it is in Firm mode, I feel like that I am riding a hard tail bike and it feels more efficient when I am pedaling on flat ground, downhill and uphill. I am a heavy guy too. It would get some more tuning when I bring it back to the bike shop. Right now, I want to ride some trails with this bike and it feels like almost new again. My bike has gone through plenty of upgrades throughout the years and I am keeping it.
I'm running the 2019 X2 on my Hightower and really like it. That being said I think I'd be happy with the DPX2 also. I went with the X2 because I wanted to match the adjustments up with the GRIP2 damper in my 36 and because it just looks so damn cool. I agree with your thoughts on the X2 feeling very planted and supple, which feels like a good match for the VPP design on the Hightower.
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Thanks we really appreciate the positive feedback!
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I see video
I get super excited that I can afford the shock
I go on google
I look who’s selling it
I start to buy it
I then realize I have a hard tail
I get sad
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You couldn't get a more informative and succinct comparison. Great review. I'd prefer a dpx2 on my Whyte S-150 for simplicity and weight, but I'll have to stick with the Rockshox Deluxe until the prices come down to under £400 to the UK.
The setings of the Fox Float X2 are not easy to find for each style of riding, but once you got them it's work almost perfect.I own a Fox Float X2 2018 on mi bike and i m very happy with it.
Great video really helped thanks
hi guys got the DPX2 love it,,cheers for the review 😁👍
My 130mm has the dps and it does great! I'd like to try the dpx2 on an all mountain 150mm bike like an intense Recluse
Fyi that 3mm compression adjuster on the DPX2 is low speed just so there's no confusion. 👍 Great comparison. I have a DPX2 and DHX2, would love to try an X2.
Always cranking out helpful relevant content! Another great video!🤙🤙
Thanks for watching!
I own custom tuned dpx2 and it feels awesome although lacks some adjustments
My 160mm travel FS 29er has a DPX2 on it and it feels amazing!!
Still rocking the fox float ctd evolution on my enduro
Had the DP X2 on my last bike and loved it! I’m now riding the new 2019 Bronson wish I could put the DPX2 on the Bronson.
I think you can but SC say you should ride the rock shock
Great video. I'm sweating the Fox Float X2 for my Nomad 4 ;-)
Make a video about Ohlins!!!You could try to compare it to FOX and tell us the difference.
have SB150, ohhhh maaan adjustment will be crazy to dial in, hoping for short winter when I could be able start working on it!
Yetis website takes your weight and height and tells you what your initial setup should be.
I have the X2 on my 160mm Mach 6 and I think it is perfect for the bike. Of course I haven't tried the bike with the DPX2 but I can't imagine it would be better given that the Mach 6 is my lift access bike park bike.
Building a 2017 CC Santa Cruz 5010 I long shocked the front with a 160mm fox 36 as for the rear I’m still trying to decide either one of these. Traditionally it was a smaller travel bike but now it’s 160 at the front as well as the riding I plan to do with it , I’m leaning more towards the x2 !
Cool vid dudes.. Got a dpx2 coming on my new jeffsy, so this is a good intro into the shock.. 🤘🏻
Hey man, wanted to follow up with you and see how you like the dpx2 on your Jeffsy. I'm currently riding a 2018 YT Jeffsy CF and i put the x2 on there because that Monarch shock was awful and harsh. The x2 absolutely transformed the bike. But now I'm buying the new 2019 Jeffsy and I don't get the bike in until May 8th. It comes with a dps float shock and I'm positive I will need to replace it. However, I don't know if I should put another x2 on there or if that dpx2 is bad ass enough to go with. Let me know if you feel it's still somewhat harsh, I'm curious.
@@taylorkrumroy7629 prbly a year late but i have a downhill with the x2 and a jeffsy with a dpx2. I like the jeffsy being a lighter trail bike since i have the dh rig but if i was running lots of park laps on the jeffsy or the enduro races i was doing had stages upwards of 20 mins id run the x2 on the jeffsy as well. But needing to climb the bike and the enduros here being pretty pedally i prefer the dpx2 on the jeffsy
If you need more information for the shock/fork from Fox, take the 4 digit/letter code on them, and then head over to Ride Fox. Once there search under tech help, bike, and then enter your code. Once entered Fox will give you all the info about your suspension product, and give you tech info for setup. Super easy for noobs until they get experience. Great video by the way.
Just bought the float x2 from worldwide cyclery..🤘thanks guys!!🤘
You rock!
Fox dpx2 for me because of metric shock Size 210 by 50mm for my specialized stump jumper 29er expert
Blog could be updated, there is now a 185x55 X2. I'm thinking about it for my Giant trance but it seems pretty wild and ill advised.
I personally like the DPX2 better than the X2. More poppy and playful and works really well on enduro bikes. I feel like the X2 is an amazing concept and does feel pretty good but just feels like it needs to be serviced way more frequently and deadens the trail quite a bit too. But still a great shock regardless!
Totally agree! If you ride super gnar 24/7 ,the X2 is the way to go. Most riders will love the dpx2. It's lighter, cheaper, and more poppy on the bike.
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I agree with that but Canyon in the new strive(150mm at rear) have put the dpx2 on it. Is peculiar , aldo orbea in the rallon (150mm) offers the dpx2 in their m10 model.
Love the x2
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Very accurate explanation, thx! ✌🏽
I heard the Fox guyz saying in a Syndicate video, that bigger shafts are also stiffer (😜) especially in comparaison with coil shox. Could that make a difference in how the flex of the frame feels in cornering and/or liveliness on rough terrain with these two shox here? It probably also changes how poppy a bike feels.
Personal preference should be one most key factors here, as one rider may not like the trail to feel as dampened as another.
If the bike frame depends on shocks stiffness, something is wrong. The shock should definitely not be used as a structural element in the frame. I think this is what caused such a bad press for CaneCreek shocks as some noodely frames twisted the shock which caused leaks and destroyed the shock.
Great vid, you don’t find this very often.
My local bike shop told me that for a trail bike up to 150 mm dpx2 way to go the X2 can be overkill for trail great for enduro/ downhill applications 150 mm upward
What will I need to make the X2 to fit my Calling?
dpx2 because that is what came with my new bike(just being honest!). I still have no clue how to adjust properly my grip2 rebound knobs :)
Can you measure from the center of the bb to where the downtube starts to turn up to the headtube on those Yeti frames?
Essentially to me, the X2 just soaks up all the things, while the dpx2 is very absorbent and supple, it is more poppy, engaging and responsive. Also the climb lever on the x2 does stuff, but on the dpx2 it does more stuff. I would say that if you're riding downhill you want the x2, if youre riding trail you want the dpx2, but if youre like me and your ride enduro then youre left to choose if you want your bike feeling like it has the playfulness of a trail bike or the smoothness of a dh bike. Personally I would probably go with the dpx2 becuase I like a playful bike and because I do more than solely ride double black enduro race stages when im just trying to get to the bottom the fastest. Because 95% of the time I'm out riding just for fun, that tiny bit of time I might loose in a race is negligible.
Good review mate
So, which one climbs better?
@@keithkreatives Between the x2 and the dpx2, absolutely the dpx2. Between the dpx2 and the dps? They'll both be pretty equal. Potentially the dps.
Does the fox dpx2 come with a tuning guide dial in the shock
Got myself a dpx2 performance on my 160mm enduro bike. Haven't ridden it yet. Honestly as long as it fits I sits.
Fox float x2 rvs. I use and I really rate them 10 out of 10.
What's the difference between the Fox performance evol re:aktv and dps that comes in Trek?
I go dpx2 with volume spacers, feels perfect
Adam Englander how many volume spacers should one install on the dpx2?
What kind of vise stand and vise do you have in the corner? Thanks!
How does the x2 compare against the RockShox RC3
You should do some slow-mo on a fast, small bump section and watch the tires ground purchase.
Great review and Gene rules!!😝
Which one is for 2018 Santacruz nomad? I need one thanks
#1 haha but good video I have been thinkinf of maybe upgrading to a coil after my friend did and I really like them
Another great review, FOX and Yeti an amazing combo! I’m just curious why Yeti didn’t spec the 130 with a Fox34 fork. I completely understand that that the Fox36 is an amazing fork, I’ve owned and rode them for years. But I feel the 34 is really the perfect trail fork for guys that are sub 170# and ride light on the trail.
I think that the 36 lets people really build up a great do everything bike and push that 130 to the limit. :)
Worldwide Cyclery back to your comment of being over shocked. The F34 in my opinion is the perfect “set it, forget it” Trail fork and saves you a little weight.
Can I put x2 on Hightower.
How to check the compatibility, am I right to say if eye to eye length is same as the one that comes from factory then it is compatible?
awesome educational video. can you do a review of the RockShox's versions of these.
There really kinda isn't one. You just get the super deluxe.
@@wittwer427 that's what I'm looking into. Not too many reviews on that one.
@@supermansr44 I currently ride one. Just the R version, so I only have adjustment for rebound. But my personal feelings on it (granted the progressiveness of my frame will affect this) are that overall its a great shock, but isn't perfect. I think the small bump sensitivity is great. I also think it handles sudden hard impacts that use a medium amount of travel (like hitting a largish root at speed) really well without upsetting the rear end. But on the lesser end of things, Ill try my best to explain this. So I have to run it pretty damn stiff (23%ish sag, 210psi) Im not all that heavy, with gear coming to around 175-180 lbs. Because the leverage rate of the frame is pretty progressive, it still really does ramp up quite well at the end, so a volume spacer would kinda just make the leverage rate feel like hitting a wall. My riding style definitely will attribute to some of this becasue Im a little abusive with the bike, but I just always felt like I was always too deep in the travel and blowing through it. The movement of it also, feels, sorta, just like heavy? It hard to explain but its like the oil is really stiff and sorta has a difficult time moving around the shock (might be the colder climate I ride in). It also kinda eats a lot of energy.
@@wittwer427 I've been trying to find reviews of the Rockshox deluxe to see if they can better explain what you're saying. I have an idea but would like to see the visuals. Thanks for your input
Do you know anyone running the X2 on the SB130? I'm thinking about doing it now that 210x55 is available
hi ther
Do you think the shock absorber will fit a Specialized SX 26 " bike ???
thank you
I have the Trek Slash 9.7 with the Rockshox shock. It's a very specific size (230x57.5mm) but only have the Float X2. I feel like I like that more but I need them to have the DPX2 so I can see the difference. I can't find it! Please help!
Great video! Could y’all do a video talking about how rear shocks and linkages are designed and intertwined together? I hear about how certain suspension designs are more progressive, linear, and/or regressive depending on the bike, but then also how certain rear shocks are more poppy and playful than others (for example). Do bike manufacturers create linkage designs with specific shocks in mind? Does the shock have more impact than the linkage design on the leverage ratio of a bike?
That is a rather complicated topic and hard to dissect for most riders. Maybe we can do a brief discussion one on the subject one day.
Worldwide Cyclery Yeah I understand that. I would definitely be interested to learn more about that! Do you know of any online resources of brands or websites that do a good job covering that sort of thing?
Which is better a rockshox super deluxe or dpx2? Thank you!
I ride a mega 275 2018. Enduro is my thing and have a rs super duluxe but a set of 36s on front as I built the bike up from scratch.....is the dpx2 much better than the super duluxe. Anyone on here swapped out a dpx2 for an rs?
Hi Jeff The Founder of Worldwide Cyclery
Ever thought about recording mirrored?
Before I used to think "why does loads of high end bikes have a fox 34 suspension" then when I tested one on my dads friends bike I realized why everyone likes it
im a guz who loves downhil, bikeparks and huge jumps but i dont know if the x2 will actuallz fit on mz bike. also it kosts a lot more. Wich one should i go with?
Great video as always! I need a 7.25x2 DPX2 , how much is it with shipping to Ohio?
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ok, this is a perfect video for my situation! so, I have a stock Release 2 from Diamondback and it comes with a fox DPS 200x57. it rides great and feels great but I want more. I love the tun-ability of the float x2 and the dpx2. but this is where the big question I have is and haven't been able to get a good answer from any pros as of yet, so WC and anyone else out there help me out please and thank you! both these shocks come in 200mm, so they will fit! however, the DPX2 is 200x57 while the Float X2 is 200x51. based on this video, it sounds like the Float X2 is the better ride of the two, but I would have -6mm or 1/4" of compression on the shock of the Float X2. this is both good and possibly bad; the good is that, because of the shorter compression, the wheel will have less distance to travel to return to its neutral position, thus faster rebound; the bad is that I might bottom out more often as a result of the shorter compression (as far as I know). the DPX2 will maintain the same compression and travel as my stock shock while still being an upgrade but I won't have the same amount of tun-ability or suppleness of the float X2. so given this knowledge, I feel like despite losing 1/4" of compression, it seems like the Float X2 is a far greater improvement over my stock DPS shock. what would you say WC? any pros think my logic is on track?
I have a 160mm fork with a 27.5. Should I go X2 ?
Is the rockshox vivid basically rockshox' X2? I have never seen a bike equipped with that
Im not sure which i would choose. i currently have rocky mountain altitude with a dps but i tend to do quite big stuff therefore im almost maxed out on volume spacers even though im a light rider (50 kg). I run 170 psi and therefore im not sure if the x2 can be made progressive enough
You would probably love the DPX2.
How does the x2 jump compared to dpx2?
you should know that you can get both shocks on the sb150
What about the SB5.5? Literally falls between the 130 and the 150.
Pretty much all OEM shocks way over-damped on HSC, requiring you to run "open" to avoid harshness, which makes them dip and dive a bunch. Even the ones with "adjustable HSC" usually start off with so much that you can't dial in a decent amount of LSC without compromising the ride. Those that run non-tuned shocks are used to this and accept it as "as good as it gets". It gets a lot "gooder" though and it can be done OEM, but shock manufacturers pretty much refuse to do it. Also, these shocks should be speced on a lot of lower-travel bikes and the terrible 3-range setting shocks like Float DPS need to be reserved for the raciest XC race bikes. For some reason the manufacturers hate giving riders the adjustments to dial in their ride to have chassis stability AND bump absorption.
Which shock is better for a heavy guy? Riders close to 300lbs or more?
The fox float X2 now comes in metric size 210 by 50 mm which equals 140 mm rear travel
I really like the Dpx2 but it does not fit my 2019 Stumpjumper Comp Alloy 27.5 which has 210x52.5mm 🤦♂️
I have the dpx2 on my enduro bike and I think that it handles big hits better than the x2. Just my opinion
Where can I buy x2 in Cambodia
Is a dpx2 a big upgrade over a dps? Bike is a Hightower w 150mm fox 36
yeah. DPS is xc/light trail. Dpx2 will really feel a whole lot better especially on a 150mm bike. dps is like a fox 32.
What about DPX2 vs Monarch Plus? Would the DPX2 be a big upgrade or marginal? (Spec Enduro)
Definitely better than monarch plus.
Any reason to use the 3mm Allen to tune compression rather than air pressure?
you are adjusting how the internals work not the air pressure in the shock.
@@dalelakusta8143 but what would be the difference in performance
I have a Fox RP2, am i still cool?
Yeah. Why the hell not 👍
So, I'm coming off of an ARC hardtail to a SB5.5 that's equipped with the X2. Am I going to hate it climbing? Is the DPX2 a firmer climber, that I'm more used to?
Hard to say if you'll hate the X2 climbing but the DPX2 does have a better pedaling platform. Of course you'll give up some of the plush downhill characteristics of the X2 though.
@@WorldwideCyclery , DANGIT WC! You were supposed to say the DPX2 will give me 20 more watts uphill and downhill like Danny Mcaskill! I'm still torn! Lol!
What about the lockout? Nothing was mentioned 😕
One has 3 modes or 2 mode w/remote etc etc
There's a little explanation in there, check it out at @3:00
Hi regarding the Lockout I have Lapierre Overvolt 900AM 2017 and want to change RS to Fox either DPX2 or X2 but I am a bit afraid that as I am on roads pedalling a lot this X2 as it does not have lockout will not be ok for this my roads.? Anyone with experience regarding this or advice.? Thanks for help
I’m considering upgrading from a 2015 Monarch plus rc3. Was leaning towards a DVO topaz t3. But also considering the DPX2. Which is better?
JJaguar333 I ride a DVO Topaz t3. Amazing shock. Performs well with small and big hits. I find that is feels more spongy than the DPX2. Also wish it had more rebound clicks. Other than that, solid shock.
Thanks for that advice. Yea the weight factor puts me off coil despite the advantages
I currently ride a 2018 YT Jeffsy with an x2 and it's brilliant. However, I'm buying the new 2019 Jeffsy and it comes with a DPS so I will need to replace it. Since the Jeffsy is such a progressive suspension platform I am worried that the DPX2 may still be too harsh and perhaps I need the x2? I hear a lot of people are putting coils on their Jeffsy's because the bike is so progressive that the Coil can still feel fun and lively.
Not sure - buy the x2 again or try out the dpx2? What are your thoughts internet?
Taylor Krumroy honestly i think it depends what/how you ride most, if you ride a lot of downhill amd dont care about climbing performance then go X2 because it doesn’t have a climb switch. But if you do care abt climbing and also descending then go for the dpx2
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Over shocking as in putting an x2 or coil on the sb130 with the same travel? Is there really a disadvantage other than cost and weight?
It really depends on the type of riding you are doing. If you are riding the park all the time and not pedalling then there is no disadvantage really but if you are riding trails and pedalling quite a bit then you sure can lose some pedalling efficiency with an oversized shock or coil.
I'd like to see a DPS vs DPX2 comparison. Would you put a DPX2 on a short travel bike?
Rich Chin put a DPX2 on my SB5+ along with Fox 36 160 mm. Amazing upgrades along with 29 inch wheels. This is a five inch travel bike that originally came with DPS. Great upgrades!
Maybe. Depends on how short. 120 or under no. 130 or over yes. Also think about the design of the dpx2 with the piggyback. A lot of smaller frames wont have the clearance to fit them.
@@wittwer427 Thanks! Ride a Tallboy which only has 110 mm of travel. I wonder exactly would happen to the ride if you put a shock like this on the bike. It's available in the same eye to eye and stroke lengths that fit the bike. If it improves small bump sensitivity, I would think it would benefit the shortest travel bikes where there is less travel to work with. The Trance 29 uses one on the top model and that only has 115 mm in the back.
@@richchin5163 Im actually not sure if a dpx2 would have better small bump sensitivity. Logic would say because the dpx2 is built to take a lot bigger hits it might not have as good small bump because the internals are going to be tougher and there will be more inertia. Secondly I would think that the more poppy/playful nature of the dpx2 would mean its small bump sensitivity is compromised.
I ride dpx2 with 150 of travel and 160 upfront on the 36 elite
Jeff I'm building a megatower, I have the rockshox ultimate, but I am 250 with gear and I like a kinda poppy bike. What would you recommend for that bike? Or add the megneg? Thanks for your time
Which year? Maybe throw a newer RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate on there? Or a Fox DPX2. Both would be solid for that bike.
@@WorldwideCyclery 2020 megatower green
They are ng both great but x2 is like a secret weapon waiting to be unleashed when fine tuned, burlier rear shock is the best
Coil for life!
But good video anyways 😄
X2 is the air equivalent of a coil shock.
X2 on a v2 bronson with 160 fork?
www.worldwidecyclery.com/blogs/worldwide-cyclery-blog/2017-fox-float-x2-with-2-position-lever-review, don't know the fork.
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