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    Hi everyone! I'm an American from the Northeast (New England). I want to create a watering hole for people who want to discuss, learn and teach about history through UA-cam videos which you guys recommend to me through the comment section or over on Discord. Let's be respectful but, just as importantly, not be afraid to question any and everything about historical records in order to give us the most accurate representation of the history of our species and of our planet!
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  • @cooldude4643
    @cooldude4643 3 роки тому +38

    "looks like cookies to me"
    oh no

  • @carlhartwell7978
    @carlhartwell7978 3 роки тому +57

    Umm, the clues in the name New England! New England was one of the first colonies and it was a part of the British Empire, the people essentially still considered themselves English, so naturally they named their places after places in England, it was all they knew.

    • @rnw2739
      @rnw2739 3 роки тому

      "Considered themselves English..."
      If you doubt they were then the millions upon millions of so called Irish people (who discover a distant first cousin came from Limerick) will be bereft..

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 роки тому +1

      New England was an of several colonies not just one that why today it is several relatively small atates

    • @carlhartwell7978
      @carlhartwell7978 2 роки тому +1

      @@pedanticradiator1491 Ah yes, I should have said the area of New England contained many of the first colonies, fair enough, my point is the same though.

    • @carlhartwell7978
      @carlhartwell7978 2 роки тому +1

      @@rnw2739 Really sorry, I totally missed your comment all those months ago.
      But I never said I doubted they were English. I mentioned it because it was in the context of my WHOLE comment. Which concerned them naming their home after England!

  • @dominicc3521
    @dominicc3521 3 роки тому +66

    Love hearing about your family history. Don’t worry about telling us my lad, you’re not wasting our time or anything like that.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 3 роки тому +3

      It did remind me of The UK Office sketch where Brent chastises Gareth for not having the next joke ready and fumbling and ruining the flow of the jokes :)

    • @joshsheffsagain4662
      @joshsheffsagain4662 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed! My mum who is half Canadian, never knew her dad.
      Anyway turns out her side of the family emigrated to the US on the Mayflower, the during the US war of independence were royalists, and fled across the border north, settling in Toronto (or York as it was back then!) Many years later my mum's dad was born, he was an airman, and met my Mums mum, in the UK, a summer fling happened and a viola, my mum was born. The guy left back for Canada, died shortly afterwards and my mum never met her dad. And she had been searching for this "other family" ever since.
      We now know.
      So as others have said, never apologize for telling your family history, like it or not, for better or worse, we're all connected.

    • @mrh678
      @mrh678 3 роки тому +2

      He's closer to the UK and Ireland than he thought. A lot of us across the pond are cousins really.

    • @marcuscoquer5958
      @marcuscoquer5958 2 роки тому +1

      Genealogy is addictive. I am pleased to hear you taking an interest in yours.

  • @JackMellor498
    @JackMellor498 3 роки тому +36

    Yeah mate we call what you guys universally call cookies, biscuits.
    We use the word cookies too, but we keep that term to the kind that have chocolate chips in them :)

    • @jayt8124
      @jayt8124 3 роки тому +4

      Yep! A good biscuit is tough and softens in your tea, but a good cookie is already warm and gooey 😁

    • @Nite-owl
      @Nite-owl 3 роки тому +5

      The Old French word bescuit is derived from the Latin words bis (twice) and coquere, coctus (to cook, cooked), and, hence, means "twice-cooked".

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 роки тому +6

      @@Nite-owl Indeed, and because they're twice-cooked, "bis-cuits" are firm and brittle... unlike American "biscuits", which are soft, cake-like, and more like what Brits call "scones".

    • @LiteralCrimeRave
      @LiteralCrimeRave 3 роки тому +2

      @@ftumschk Specifically our biscuits are most similar to your buttermilk scones (unless you're in New England)

  • @joealyjim3029
    @joealyjim3029 3 роки тому +10

    A cookie is soft, a biscuit is hard

  • @panther7748
    @panther7748 3 роки тому +44

    10:07 I hate to tell you this, but... there is a Boston in Lincolnshire.
    New England was mostly settled by english people, and there were apparently not very creative in choosing the names of their towns. But boring, unimaginative colony names have a long tradition; when the ancient Phoenicians founded the city of Carthage, they just named it "New City" ("Qart-Hadasht" = Carthage). A few centuries later, the Carthaginians founded the modern city of Cartagena in Spain and named it... Qart-Hadasht. It was called the same like its mother city. It was the Romans who later renamed it Cartago Nova ("New Carthage") which evolved into "Cartagena".

    • @carlh429
      @carlh429 3 роки тому +5

      Lincolnshire is also home to a hamlet which goes by the name of……New York!

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 роки тому +2

      @@carlh429 there's another New York on Tyneside

  • @davepb5798
    @davepb5798 3 роки тому +6

    Bristol was a city, but was made a city and county, by Royal decree in 1373.
    It survived as such for over 700 years, until Avon was introduced, and now Bristol is back.

  • @LordRahl1975
    @LordRahl1975 3 роки тому +6

    This video reminds of an old classic:
    There are three types of people in the world; those born in Yorkshire, those who wish they born in Yorkshire, and those with no ambition.

    • @tweetypie1978
      @tweetypie1978 3 роки тому +1

      Got another for u- Yorkshire man born an bred strong in the arms, weak in the head (love from Lancashire 😘)🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @lextex3280
    @lextex3280 3 роки тому +15

    Your pronunciation of Warwick (my home town) made me laugh. 😂. Most people outside the UK think it begins as war. Lol. Listen to the County song again and you will hear how to pronounce Warwickshire.

  • @marcushull12
    @marcushull12 3 роки тому +2

    They are biscuits which is derived from , Latin bis (twice) and French coctus (to cook, cooked) twice-cooked as biscuits are cooked twice , cookies are only cooked once and are more doughy.

  • @McJibbin
    @McJibbin  3 роки тому +29

    If I get 20 likes on this video I will learn and memorize every county in England! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
    Well here it is.. ua-cam.com/video/UuWkdpPWikY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=McJibbin

    • @jw3505
      @jw3505 3 роки тому +5

      I did this with the US map the other day! So now I can actually pick out states other than NY, Cali, Texas, and Florida 😂

    • @notthecoolwhip
      @notthecoolwhip 3 роки тому +1

      You

    • @geoffwheadon2897
      @geoffwheadon2897 3 роки тому +1

      Littleborough has the "borough", this therefore has Danish/Viking links, from when the area was part of Danelaw. 10 miles south of me is the river Tees and south of there there's quite a lot of towns/villages/cities that have this, the kingdom of the 5 Borough's as a example, and there's quite a few places that have the BY ending, as an example Grimsby, Rugby, Denby etc, their also mainly Anglo Saxon Vikings , but north of the Tees not so much as this was like a no man's land as north of the Tees was mainly Danish Vikings that came owa during the second migration from that area and of course as par course raiding took place, lads will be lads, hence the no man's land scenario. Its been a few yrs and i might be a bit rusty on the details but you get the gist, you probably have plenty of Danish /Anglo Saxon blood in you on that side of the family, as for Eire, that was heavily influenced by Norwegian Vikings, it was the irish/Norwegian Vikings as slave raiders that took young lad back to Ireland, his name was Patrick , no doubt some of you paddies out there will let me know your version of things but like I say I'm a rusty best regards from County Durham England

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 3 роки тому +1

      I am by no means certain where every state in The USA is but this 67-year-old London broke his record last week by naming all 50 USA States alphabetically (not within each letter though ) and saying them out loud. I am only allowed one attempt per day while making a cup of tea and being by the kitchen clock and my previous record of 23 seconds (7 times) was beaten but 22 seconds is almost impossible for me to beat now :)

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 3 роки тому

      A reaction to kings and general third battle of Panipat would be appreciated.

  • @terryoconnor5262
    @terryoconnor5262 3 роки тому +16

    Littleborough would be be pronounced as littlebruh, completely no from a fellow Lancastrian (although now I would be called a Cumbrian in the Lake Disrict

  • @jacksmith4460
    @jacksmith4460 3 роки тому +4

    Biscuits are baked twice hence the name(it's a French word in origin) and are similar to Cookies. What you refer to as Biscuits we call Bread rolls, or Buns. The things they ate in this video we would call Biscuits but they are not Cookies to us.
    We have Cookies , but they are usually larger with usually chocolate chips in. So for us a Cookie is a type of Biscuit, and what you call Biscuit is a type or Rolls or Bun (Rolls in this context means bread, Chocolate rolls or Swiss rolls are different, Buns in this context also means bread, but we do also have sweet buns that are iced or have other sweet sauces on or in them)

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 роки тому +1

      American "biscuits" aren't twice-cooked, and resemble what we'd call "scones".

  • @augustlion6645
    @augustlion6645 3 роки тому +7

    Lancashire is Yorkshire's quieter, smarter more modest brother .... ) with a rich, deep history and some beautiful scenery.

  • @mattyboy5785
    @mattyboy5785 3 роки тому +9

    My dads from yorkshire and my mums from lancashire, gets a bit sketchy when the family are round

    • @ellesee7079
      @ellesee7079 3 роки тому

      It could be worse. I used to live in Yorkshire, but now live in Lancashire. I didn't leave town! 🙁

    • @Someloke8895
      @Someloke8895 3 роки тому

      @@ellesee7079 Could be even worse, I'm a Yorkie (Technical smoggy...thanks county border moving) but lived in N.Yorks, W.Mids and Bristol....followed by a brief invasion of the U.S then Dorset, then the U.S again, then Dorset again, then Somerset....now Geordie-Land.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 роки тому

      @@ellesee7079 Are you in Earby ?

  • @geoffsbakingblog
    @geoffsbakingblog 3 роки тому +1

    The address in the book may have been Hare Hill Road, Littleborough. That road still exists.

  • @johnthebrief
    @johnthebrief 3 роки тому +4

    What Americans call cookies we call biscuits.
    What Americans call biscuits we call 'what the fuck is that?'

  • @SharpShadow7
    @SharpShadow7 3 роки тому +14

    Most City names in usa are same as Britain's expesally in New England, after all Britain did name them lol. Good video btw and you should learn all counties and locations.

  • @robertwoolstencroft5946
    @robertwoolstencroft5946 3 роки тому +3

    The best thing about Yorkshire is the road outs of it to Lancashire.
    And my grandma was from Wardle just down the road from littleborough.

    • @fleshen
      @fleshen 3 роки тому

      And there you give the lie to it being a one way rivalry😁

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye 3 роки тому +4

    You (JUST) passed the test as most Reactors would have missed the clever song at the end assuming the video was over and at the last moment you realised and then joined in :)

  • @Dan-B
    @Dan-B 3 роки тому +1

    The main thing is that there are Regions, and there are Counties.
    Regions mostly resemble the historic kingdoms of Britain, but in modern day are just divisions the UK for administrative purposes, Counties are official localised governments that have elected Members of Parliament based on the population size of the county. eg. Yorkshire and the Humber is a region, which contains most of the counties of Yorkshire, and parts of Lincolnshire.
    A good video you might want to check out is “How did the counties of England get their names?” By Name Explain.

  • @generaladvance5812
    @generaladvance5812 3 роки тому +10

    So refreshing to see someone from the US doing family tree work without having to have some wacky celebrity ancestor like richard III or Winston Churchill.

    • @AhsokaTanoTheWhite
      @AhsokaTanoTheWhite 3 роки тому +5

      Someone from the US: Oh, I'm actually the great great great great great great great nephew four times removed from Charlemagne...
      Meanwhile in Europe: erm, everyone is related to Charlemagne in some way...

  • @adrianhughes8143
    @adrianhughes8143 3 роки тому +3

    You call them cookie's we in the UK call them Biscuits. 💂‍♂️💂‍♂️💂‍♂️💂‍♂️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @pomx2900
    @pomx2900 3 роки тому +1

    Welcome to the clan, fellow Lancastrian. I'm originally from Manchester, it used used to be Lancashire.
    I live in Australia, now.

  • @timglennon6814
    @timglennon6814 3 роки тому +8

    I live in the county of Lancashire.
    I live 7 miles from Littleborough, it’s just outside a town called Rochdale.

    • @McJibbin
      @McJibbin  3 роки тому +3

      I want to visit someday! ☺️

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 роки тому

      For some reason i thought there was one in east anglia - maybe thats Littleport ?

    • @emmabyrne2968
      @emmabyrne2968 3 роки тому

      @@McJibbin Remember to keep your wallet out of sight ;)

    • @jillhobson6128
      @jillhobson6128 3 роки тому

      @@McJibbin Pronounced Littlebruh

    • @tweetypie1978
      @tweetypie1978 3 роки тому

      I'm in Lancashire too! I'm further west in Preston 🌹🌹🌹

  • @alanmusicman3385
    @alanmusicman3385 2 роки тому

    Connor - from what I have seen of your interest areas I believe you would be absolutely delighted with an old BBC history series called "Alistair Cooke's America". Cooke was a Brit, but spent a good deal of his life in the USA writing for British publications about America.
    His TV series explains the history of America - from its discovery right through the formation of the USA and on through to the 1970s. It explains so many things about your country and how it came to be what it is - good and bad. It explains big things like why the US Constitution contains what it does and how close the French came to being the dominant invaders, the revolutionary war, and the civil war - right down to things like the relationships between the New England colonists and the UK they had left behind. It covers why they copied placenames and also looks at the odd "we fight them but we love and respect them" relationship the colonial settlers had with the British Troops who tried (and failed) to ensure that the colonies remained under British control.
    For any intelligent person interested in history it's a fantastic series to watch - albeit it was made well over 40 years ago now. be warned though, it's 10 episodes long but the time goes quickly! It's not on UA-cam (some clips are, but at very poor quality) but you may find it elsewhere or on DVD if all else fails.

  • @stevegray1308
    @stevegray1308 3 роки тому +4

    Yorkshire, Gods own County, the original garden of Eden, is still the best place on earth. We have a great coastline, moors, wolds, dales, rivers, hills, ports, beers, cricket, football and me. What else would anyone want?

    • @jcstato9048
      @jcstato9048 3 роки тому

      Humility?

    • @stevegray1308
      @stevegray1308 3 роки тому

      @@jcstato9048 I am humble, I just don't believe in lying 😁.

    • @alanmusicman3385
      @alanmusicman3385 2 роки тому

      "What else could anyone want?" - well, to be in Cornwall or the West Country for one thing.

    • @stevegray1308
      @stevegray1308 2 роки тому

      @@alanmusicman3385 lol, nice joke. No football teams, no cricket teams, no rugby league, no rugby union, no beer, and folks talk funny.

    • @alanmusicman3385
      @alanmusicman3385 2 роки тому

      @@stevegray1308 No Beer? I have only three things to say in reply to that. Doom Bar, Tribute, Proper Job - among many examples. As for sports teams, well having many of the best beaches and surfing places in Europe, real Cornish pasties and the best clotted cream more than makes up for not having any "muddy men" sports :-)

  • @johnwarde2409
    @johnwarde2409 2 роки тому +1

    I used to live in Littleborough!! I only left just over 3 years ago. I'm guessing the road you mentioned inscribed on the inside book cover is Hare Hill Road.

  • @paulleach3612
    @paulleach3612 2 роки тому +1

    Littleborough and the surrounding area are steeped in history - You only have to look at the little town of Middleton nearby and you have the oldest war memorial in England (to the Middleton archers who fought at Flodden) and I believe there is an American comic who discovered he's the last direct lineage of the local aristocracy; the new owner of Hopwood Hall. (Who's renovation and restoration he's vlogging about.)

  • @marcushull12
    @marcushull12 3 роки тому +2

    As a Hull Resident or to give it it`s proper name Kingston-Upon-Hull , I refused to call it North Humberside and always quoted my address as East Yorkshire .

    • @andyt8216
      @andyt8216 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. We just need the bloody police, fire service, some sat nav and address databases and the BBC radio station for old folk to correct their awful names.

  • @girish2001
    @girish2001 3 роки тому +2

    To start with, see this video (on rail travel in England, specifically the least used stations) to understand how nobody outside London is generally sure of which county they are in.
    Watch this video by Geoff Marshall for one minute to get an idea of how confused everybody is about this.
    ua-cam.com/video/5QCB6UdlnVw/v-deo.html
    Secondly, while you will try and memorise the list of the counties of England, *which* list? As the video makes it clear, there are three different lists at least (ceremonial, administrative and postal), which are all slightly different. Which one will you memorise.
    Lastly, of course many place names are similar between England and *New* England. That was intentional. Indeed, if you look just to the north of New England, you will find Nova Scotia (New Scotland). And during the War of 1812, there was a British plan to hive off parts of Maine into a New Ireland.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ireland_(Maine)
    If you see the layouts of New England, Nova Scotia and the proposed New Ireland, they are similar to, but not the same as, the original England, Scotland and Ireland.

    • @girish2001
      @girish2001 3 роки тому

      Alternatively, freeze this frame in the video above to see all the various counties that have presided over the railway station in question in just the past fifty years (since 1972).
      ua-cam.com/video/5QCB6UdlnVw/v-deo.html
      And I would highly recommend Geoff Marshall's videos (across the various UA-cam channels that he has worked on, such as The Londonist and All the Stations) for an understanding of a very unique British hobby; trainspotting.
      Trainspotting (occasionally extended to buses as well) and campanology/bell-ringing are two hobbies that are unique to Britain, in my opinion.

  • @clymtc
    @clymtc 3 роки тому +2

    I enjoy your reaction videos; as a Brit I learn a lot I never knew about Britain and, being a Yorkshireman this one was even more interesting. For you information there is a Hare Hill Road in Littleborough, could be that for your ancestor? (and our biscuits - from an old French word, bescuit, meaning twice cooked - are your cookies)

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye 3 роки тому +3

    Great Reaction to the usual excellent video from these Guys .
    I am by no means certain where every state in The USA is but this 67-year-old London broke his record last week by naming all 50 USA States alphabetically (not within each letter though ) and saying them out loud. I am only allowed one attempt per day while making a cup of tea and being by the kitchen clock and my previous record of 23 seconds (7 times) was beaten but 22 seconds is almost impossible for me to beat now :)

  • @heathergibson2108
    @heathergibson2108 3 роки тому +2

    God I love this channel .. I see a post and I stop what I'm doing and watch
    Plus you are quite comical .always a bonus 😁I always learn something.

  • @vaudevillian7
    @vaudevillian7 3 роки тому +6

    I mean you didn’t steal the names, the settlers were predominantly English (~80% up to the Revolutionary War) and even the Founding Fathers considered themselves to be Englishmen (if they hadn’t there wouldn’t have been a war as they considers their ‘rights as Englishmen’ to have been infringed). So they named the places after where they came from or familiar places. Most of the northeast of the US is named after UK place names, and until you get down to Pennsylvania/ Delaware (anecdotal observation) you largely pronounce them the same way we do too.
    Plus: New England, New York, New Jersey, New Hampshire - all states (and a region, of course, named after the British Isles).
    I’m on the Nottinghamshire/ Lincolnshire border so not too far away is where many of the Mayflower contingent came from - or at least their church was down the road, and also a lot of the early Jamestown settlers - the style of buildings in Jamestown have features that can only be found in a few local villages nearby.

  • @rocketrabble6737
    @rocketrabble6737 2 роки тому

    I live in East Sussex (county town Lewes; which is far smaller but older than many other towns: the county town of West Sussex is Chichester) and get annoyed when online sites only offer Sussex as a county; whilst at the same time I follow and support Sussex County cricket Club. The professional cricket set up in England (and one county in wales) is organised around 18 traditional counties, even though some of them now find their county ground (their principal ground) might not be in the county anymore; but it does not matter.
    I also frown when some people (eg. my older sister) address letters to me as being in Essex.

  • @Richard_Jones
    @Richard_Jones 3 роки тому +1

    In the UK Warwick is pronounced Worrick. UA-cam is sooooo educational ain't it?

  • @dyastylianou8493
    @dyastylianou8493 3 роки тому +1

    Someone from Lancaster is a Lancastrian. I'm a Londoner but have lived many years in Somerset. I live in a big town which is also a city in Boston. Yes there are a lot of the same place names which the English took with them when they were there. I suppose the clues in the title lol. NEW ENGLAND lol. London is made up of villages divided into boroughs pronounced burras in the UK. Interestingly Town names here which have their namesake in New England, tend to be cities there lol. Learn where they are all located Connor also which will give it more significance. You should look up the history of the War of the Roses. Lancaster versus Yorkshire. Rivalry still exists. Bit like Devon and Somerset. Although we just argue nowadays about the correct way to have a cream tea lol. The Cornish or Devonshire way. Curiously people of my age still refer to the old names interchangeably. Bit like using the imperial system which I prefer and the Metric. Thanks Europe lol.

  • @jillelliott8175
    @jillelliott8175 3 роки тому

    Great Video Thanx loads fer putting it up squire. KnJ now in OZ

  • @TP-mv6en
    @TP-mv6en 3 роки тому +3

    warwick here is pronounced with a silent w so worrick

  • @melscienerf5977
    @melscienerf5977 3 роки тому +4

    They had to start with us in yorkshire 😂 (I've lived in a couple of ridings so class myself as just yorkshire).
    You're part "lancastrian" then, near Rochdale if I remember right 🤔. And you definitely need to try and remember a the counties.... You'll know more than most people in the UK if you manage that 😂

  • @justme1111
    @justme1111 3 роки тому +1

    Cookies are a type of biscuit to us and in the US you tend to call all biscuits cookies

  • @SNMG7664
    @SNMG7664 3 роки тому +1

    In the UK a cookie is a type of biscuit. Either small and crunchy with chocolate chips, or the big soft kind. We have a much bigger selection of biscuits than the US though. The thing the US calls biscuits doesn't really exist over here

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 роки тому +1

      The things the US call biscuits are basically what we call "scones".

  • @connorchapman7524
    @connorchapman7524 Рік тому

    Quick fact about my home town, Belfast (Northern Ireland). Its split between to counties, Co.Antrim and Co.Down and depending on which part of the city you live in your county is different. I live in East Belfast and fall under Co.Antrim but my friend who lives 10 mins away walking is in Co.Down. we're more about politocal/cultural constituencies here rather than counties.

  • @jasonfearnley1744
    @jasonfearnley1744 Рік тому

    I like the postman pat music when they talked about royal mail

  • @carlhartwell7978
    @carlhartwell7978 3 роки тому +1

    We call what you call cookies, biscuits. What you may know as biscuits, I believe we don't have an exact common similar food, but I think it's something like a bland version of what we call scones. They are quite sweet and eaten with jam and clotted cream, I won't get into the order in which they are spread or even how you pronounce scone!

    • @davidmacgregor5193
      @davidmacgregor5193 3 роки тому +1

      Biscuit is a French derived word meaning I believe "twice baked". I am open to correction.

    • @carlhartwell7978
      @carlhartwell7978 3 роки тому

      @@davidmacgregor5193 I think you're right, but I think colloquially we don' so much differentiate...though I'm not certain on that either!

  • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
    @Inkyminkyzizwoz 3 роки тому

    I live in a part of Merseyside that used to belong to Cheshire and quite a few people insist that it still does!

  • @bryantonks5364
    @bryantonks5364 3 роки тому +1

    English Counties have always been strange - even the so-called "centuries old" counties that the Association of British Counties wants to return to. Before a major tidy-up in 1844 most counties has "exclaves" and "enclaves" - bits of land which were, for historical reasons, not in the county they appeared to be in. For example, in my county (Northumberland), there were three sizable chunks of County Durham - Norhamshire and Islandshire (up near the Scottish Border!), and Bedlingtonshire, all within Northumberland. Going back to the 16th century there was a whole extra county - Hexhamshire which comprised a big chunk in the south-west of Northumberland, to which it was merged in 1572. Add to that the pre-15th century "liberties" of Tynemouthshire for example and you can see it was never simple! Love the channel, by the way. Oh, and just in case you didn't know, in the late 11th century (1086) when the Domesday Book was compiled, the "far north" counties of Durham, Northumberland, Cumberland and Westmorland weren't included because - you've guessed it, they were still not really fully incorporated into England!

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 роки тому

      Neighbouring Hexhamshire was the Liberty of Tynedale which was at one time the personal property of the Kings of Scots though it was in England most of Tynedale became properly part of Northumberland long before Hexhamshire did except for Alston which was given to Cumberland despite it being culturally and geographically more a North Eastern area

  • @philipareed
    @philipareed 3 роки тому +2

    "You're dead too me" True British humour.

  • @markthomas2577
    @markthomas2577 3 роки тому +6

    Littleborough is a town in the Manchester conurbation..... so you're Lancastrian and a Manc (pronounced Mank, someone from Manchester). Oh and it's pronounced Little -bruh

  • @patriciaburke6639
    @patriciaburke6639 3 роки тому +1

    On the assumption that the address of your ancestor in Littleborough was possibly Hare Hill Road. I’m happy to say that Google Earth will take you there, if you care to give it a look.

  • @jamesb1717
    @jamesb1717 3 роки тому +1

    Like your channel. Good stuff. I live in that county on the right called Suffolk. Cool.

  • @robertobrien5709
    @robertobrien5709 3 роки тому +1

    Its borough not burrow, rabbits live in burrow's.

  • @johnhall7679
    @johnhall7679 3 роки тому +2

    Ryding means three and they had four also the map missed out Westmoreland, between Northumberland, Cumberland, Yorkshire. Your lineage is Lancastrian.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 роки тому

      To be pedantic it is spelt Riding and the modern spelling of Westmoreland does not have the second e.

  • @christinepreston8642
    @christinepreston8642 3 роки тому +1

    Considering how an American would pronounce the state New Hampshie, it confuses me even more that they pronounce UK counties shy-errr!!
    Anyway, if you learn all the counties, please, please, please, pronounce them correctly too!!! Mine is Berkshire - Barkshur.

  • @joyfulzero853
    @joyfulzero853 2 роки тому

    I came (born and bred) from Huntingdonshire (St Neots) and its loss still smarts; I think the shock may be what stalled my surge to the top!
    BTW, when talking about smallest counties; Wikipedia states Rutland as 381.5 sq km, and Isle of Wight as 384 sq km. However Google gives Isle of Wight at 380.7 sq km which would make the IOW, smallest county and largest parliamentary constituency!

  • @Escapee5931
    @Escapee5931 3 роки тому

    While Yorkshire was split into Ridings, many other early medieval counties were split up into local administrative districts called "Hundreds" (I'm in what used to be the Offlow Hundred of Staffordshire).
    The only modern-day relevance of Hundreds I've come across relates to the House of Commons. By a law dating back to 1624, no Member of Parliament can voluntarily resign from their position during the life of a Parliament, so they have to be appointed to the office of Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds - which disqualifies them from being an MP, but which has no duties or responsibilities of its own.
    I guess they lose that post following a general election and a new government forming.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 2 роки тому

      The ridings of Yorkshire and some other counties in the east of England were divided into units called wapentakes which were basically hundreds under a different name

  • @sigoy
    @sigoy 3 роки тому +1

    We call cookies biscuits. Your biscuits are more like our scones. Keep up. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @melscienerf5977
    @melscienerf5977 3 роки тому +5

    Connor it's pronounced war-ick, silent second w 🤣

  • @alex6wow
    @alex6wow 3 роки тому +1

    I think you should learn all the counties. East Riding of Yorkshire gang

  • @AbyssWatcher745
    @AbyssWatcher745 3 роки тому +7

    10:07 Well the name is literally New England. I'd be suprised if there were many original names

  • @kidcreole9421
    @kidcreole9421 3 роки тому

    You are a Lancastrian - Littleborough is near Rochdale which is now part of Greater Manchester and is no longer part of Lancashire since they rearranged the county boundary lines.
    But most people who live in towns, villages and cities that are now part of Great Manchester still consider themselves Lancashire.

  • @jessgibson4790
    @jessgibson4790 2 роки тому +1

    The second w in Warwick is not said.

  • @streaky81
    @streaky81 3 роки тому +1

    Hare Hill Road? Looks like it wouldn't have changed much since your maternal grandfather would have lived there?

  • @joeypalmiero7576
    @joeypalmiero7576 2 роки тому

    I’ve lived in Bristol my whole life which is simultaneously in the counties of City of Bristol, Gloucestershire and Somerset and it’s very confusing

  • @pipercharms7374
    @pipercharms7374 3 роки тому +1

    your cookies we call biscuits, cookies in the uk is a type of biscuit :)

  • @ShakemeisterS64
    @ShakemeisterS64 3 роки тому

    To be born in Yorkshire is to win the lottery of life.
    To be born in the West Riding is of course the ultimate prize.
    Do you know until the 80s or summat you couldn't play cricket for Yorkshire unless you had been born there.
    I'm aware of one exception, a fella who had been born in France I think. He was given an exemption because his parents were both from Yorkshire and they were trying to make their way back home so their child could be born in Yorkshire.

  • @jw3505
    @jw3505 3 роки тому +1

    Cookies for us are only the chocolate chip kind

  • @vaughanellis7866
    @vaughanellis7866 Рік тому

    And to make it even worse Cumbria is being split up again but this time into Cumberland, and West Moorland & Furness, but the boundaries have also been changed.

  • @metrhino
    @metrhino 3 роки тому +6

    For Yorkshire, imagine Texas without the guns

  • @estobart
    @estobart 3 роки тому +2

    Sorry to disappoint.... but if that book belonged to your mother's descendant, it is unlikely that he came to the US in the 1600s or 1700s. The book (The Life and Explorations of Dr Livingstone. A Missionary Explorer) is part of a 2 volume set first published in 1870. So your mother's descendant from Littleborough was probably still living in Lancashire in the 1870s.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 роки тому

      It is not impossible for some settlers to return to UK for trade or similar - I had ancestors that were ship owners originally from Ireland (east) and Scotland(west) and expanded trade to the USA , eventually registering ships in America and then losing them to English Capture in one of the wars against the now independent America.

    • @estobart
      @estobart 3 роки тому

      @@highpath4776 True, he could have returned for some reason, that was my first thought. But then I thought, why would anyone inscribe a book with a temporary address. Which is why I think he was probably still in Littleborough in the 1870's. Incidentally, I think the road is Hare Hill Rd, and if McJibben has the house number he could google earth and see the actual house.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 роки тому

      @@estobart One could look in the 1861/71/81 Census , also if male probably in some of the registers of electors

  • @DocRobAC
    @DocRobAC 3 роки тому +1

    Hello, I’m just down the road from Littleborough ( little bur ruh).

    • @DocRobAC
      @DocRobAC 3 роки тому

      I do have some photos of it.

    • @DocRobAC
      @DocRobAC 3 роки тому

      It’s now in Greater Manchester

  • @michael_177
    @michael_177 3 роки тому +3

    Conor you cant have had the channel for THIS long with almost 8k subs and you still dont realise we call cookies 'biscuits'. Come on my man. PogO

  • @joshsheffsagain4662
    @joshsheffsagain4662 3 роки тому +5

    Tut tut. The law of the war of the roses, means that we can't be friends if you hail from the wrong side of the Pennines 😉

    • @McJibbin
      @McJibbin  3 роки тому +2

      So this is war then 😡

    • @joshsheffsagain4662
      @joshsheffsagain4662 3 роки тому +1

      @@McJibbin well, someone has to be from that side of the Pennines. At least you know why your ancestors left and set sail for America! 😂🤣😉

    • @rb93077039
      @rb93077039 3 роки тому +3

      @@joshsheffsagain4662 The neighbours? ;)

    • @joshsheffsagain4662
      @joshsheffsagain4662 3 роки тому

      Probably, those Cumbrian folk ARE a bit odd, ain't they? 😉🤣

    • @christopherwoolnough2160
      @christopherwoolnough2160 3 роки тому +3

      A lot of misconceptions about the war of the Roses. Actually it was a fight between the House of Lancaster and the House of York. The people fighting could be from anywhere. There was as many Lancastrians fighting for house of York as there were Yorkshireman who fought for House of Lancaster. The Roses were more the emblems of the Royal Houses and not the geographical area of the Counties.

  • @Wesker1984
    @Wesker1984 3 роки тому +2

    I'm from Sheffield, South Yorkshire, yes Yorkshire exists lol.
    Sean Bean is from Sheffield too.

    • @joshsheffsagain4662
      @joshsheffsagain4662 3 роки тому

      And me!!

    • @boggy8745
      @boggy8745 3 роки тому

      South Yorkshire lad here but I’m not from sheff, I’m from donny.

    • @jayb4186
      @jayb4186 3 роки тому

      @@boggy8745 Boooo 🤣

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 3 роки тому

      Last time I went there with Millwall in THe 1980's they had THe Green 'Un or was it The Pink 'Un ? :)

    • @tonethetallbaldy5039
      @tonethetallbaldy5039 3 роки тому

      West riding not South Yorkshire!

  • @TP-mv6en
    @TP-mv6en 3 роки тому +1

    learn the counties, their county towns and how to pronounce all of them!

  • @nathan_hassen
    @nathan_hassen Рік тому

    Almost the whole of the USA is named after some place in Britain, not just New England the rest being named after somewhere in Europe with a few native names thrown in

  • @XRos28
    @XRos28 2 роки тому

    You are from new ENGLAND, so the answer to your question is a resounding YES!!! Cookies in American English ARE biscuits in British English.

  • @jamgart6880
    @jamgart6880 3 роки тому

    Yay! Yorkshire! That’s where I live. In fact I live behind the Yorkshire tea factory 😁

  • @stevelknievel4183
    @stevelknievel4183 3 роки тому

    Littleborough is about as close to being in Yorkshire as its possible to get without actually being in it.

  • @leerichardson4629
    @leerichardson4629 3 роки тому +1

    I thought I knew where I lived… I’m not sure anymore! 😂

  • @david22591
    @david22591 3 роки тому

    4:00 The word you're looking for is Lancastrian, like me.

  • @elizabethsimpson4430
    @elizabethsimpson4430 2 роки тому

    I grew up in the smallest county of Rutland. :)

  • @laurenquigley6599
    @laurenquigley6599 3 роки тому

    Whoa, awesome book!! I love a bound book with some gold gilding, very special.

  • @daveofyorkshire301
    @daveofyorkshire301 3 роки тому

    They keep trying to cut Yorkshire up because its the biggest county in England with as many people in it as the whole of Scotland. The politicians keep moving the boundary lines and renaming parts in an attempt to change the heavy Labour party loyalties. However renaming sub-counties doesn't stop a Yorkshire man from being a Yorkshire man.
    The name comes from "Eborakon" ( c. 150) an old Brythonic name which probably derives from "Efor" or "the place of the yew-trees." Many Yorkshire dialect words and aspects of pronunciation derive from old Norse due to the Viking influence in this region.
    _Within the borders of the historic county of Yorkshire are large stretches of unspoiled countryside, particularly within the Yorkshire Dales, North York Moors and Peak District national parks. Yorkshire has been nicknamed "God's Own Country"_
    _The emblem of Yorkshire is the White Rose of the English royal House of York, and the most commonly used flag representative of Yorkshire is the white rose on a blue field which, after nearly fifty years of use, was recognised by the Flag Institute on 29 July 2008. Yorkshire Day, held annually on 1 August, is a celebration of the general culture of Yorkshire, ranging from its history to its own dialect_
    _Early inhabitants of what is now Yorkshire were Hen Ogledd Brythonic Celts (old north British Celts), who formed separate tribes, the Brigantes (known to be in the north and west ridings of now Yorkshire) and the Parisi, East Riding. The Brigantes controlled territory which later became all of Northern England and more territory than most Celtic tribes on the isle of Great Britain. Six of the nine Brigantian poleis described by Claudius Ptolemaeus in the Geographia fall within the historic county_
    _Although the Roman conquest of Britain began in 43 AD, the Brigantes remained in control of their kingdom as a client state of Rome for an extended period, reigned over by the Brigantian monarchs Cartimandua and her husband Venutius. The capital was between the north and west ridings Isurium Brigantum (near Aldborough) civitas under Roman rule. Initially, this situation suited both the Romans and the Brigantes, who were known as the most militant tribe in Britain_

  • @joyfulzero853
    @joyfulzero853 2 роки тому

    They were "biscuits"; made in Britain, retailed in Britain and consumed in Britain by British biscuit eaters!

  • @jamesdawson2393
    @jamesdawson2393 3 роки тому

    Cookies are a type of biscuit. Biscuits in the UK are not hot and/or served with KFC and gravy.

  • @dale897
    @dale897 3 роки тому +1

    Hate to point out the obvious but New England should give away why you have so many place names from England lol. Nice vide keep it up.

  • @Kolious_Thrace
    @Kolious_Thrace 3 роки тому

    It’s not about stealing the names, it’s just the first people that built New England were from England and gave to the cities that the have built the names of their old cities in the UK
    This happened to us too!
    When turks took over Minor Asia and about 1.000.000 Hellenes came as refugees to the main Hellas at 1922-1924, refugees created new cities and villages. Almost all of them had the name of the place that the refugees originated from!
    From Smyrna refugees created parts in cities called New Smyrna.
    People from Halicarnassus created villages called New Halicarnassus
    Every city or village in Hellas that has ‘’New ….(something)…. As a name is an old place that now is occupied by turks.
    Of course in our case we were forced to leave, we were refugees of war and genocides
    Instead of the immigration to America where it was a choice!
    Especially the East Coast was colonised by Brits and Irish.
    Later they came a lot of Hellenes in America too naming their cities with Hellenic names but also many of phihellene American names American cities with Hellenic names!
    There are more than 20 cities called Athens in the USA!
    Athens in:
    Alabama, Arkansas, California, Ohio, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas’s Louisiana, Indiana, Kentucky, Somerset, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania…
    All Americans are from Europe!
    In reality you are European immigrants, the native Americans are very few nowadays.
    If you go back 3 or 4 generations anyone will found that he is from either Europe, Africa or Asia.

  • @Aliquis.frigus
    @Aliquis.frigus 3 роки тому +3

    Well... Even the name, New England, is stolen.
    I mean, you also have New York, Manchester, etc.

  • @terrortorn
    @terrortorn 3 роки тому +1

    The clue is in the name "NEW England".

  • @okiwatashi2349
    @okiwatashi2349 3 роки тому +1

    10.15 I think the clue is in the name New England!

  • @anglosaxon5874
    @anglosaxon5874 3 роки тому

    Littleborough...just a few miles from me! lol
    Edit: You're part Lancastrian or now it's in the County of Greater Manchester.

  • @ps5user155
    @ps5user155 3 роки тому

    I’m from Littleborough, that’s crazy

  • @suehepworth4259
    @suehepworth4259 2 роки тому

    Cookies are biscuits in the UK, unless they are very soft.

  • @wizardflaps
    @wizardflaps 3 роки тому +2

    Learning all the counties would be an absolute waste of your time. Most of them don't exist. Just watch more Map Men instead.

  • @pipercharms7374
    @pipercharms7374 3 роки тому +1

    Either you guys copied or we were really boring with our name choices XD

  • @MitzMitzi
    @MitzMitzi 3 роки тому +1

    I would argue to say it’s not pronounced Sheer or Shire but Shuh or Sher 😊

  • @csatterley
    @csatterley 3 роки тому +5

    Biscuits are what we call cookies in the UK.

    • @MCookies21
      @MCookies21 3 роки тому +1

      Biscuits are Scones in the US

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 3 роки тому +1

      Or put another way, in order of seniority (lol) cookies are our Biscuits...

    • @patriciaburke6639
      @patriciaburke6639 3 роки тому +2

      csatterley. - I think you will find, that we certainly don’t call Biscuits, ‘Cookies’ here in the U.K. We make and sell both products, which are similar, but not the same. If someone in my social orbit offered me a Cookie, I would expect to receive a ‘Cookie’ - not a ‘Biscuit, as I know the difference.

    • @csatterley
      @csatterley 3 роки тому

      @@patriciaburke6639 I'm British and I said that we call them biscuits not cookies. Suggest you read comments more carefully.
      US Vs UK
      Fries = Chips *
      Chips = Crisps
      Cookies = Biscuits #
      Biscuits = (Savoury) Scones ¢
      Jelly = Jam
      * We also have Fries or French Fries in the UK, they are generally thin cut (e.g. McDonalds Fries)
      # we have cookies too that are a specific type of biscuit, often soft-baked like homemade cookies in the US
      ¢ My experience has been that biscuits and scones are a bit different (as I understand US biscuits are often made with buttermilk) but the closest to a US biscuit is a savoury scone. UK scones are often made with sweet dough and can contain dried fruit, eaten with butter or cream and jam (jelly). In the UK scones wouldn't be eaten for breakfast (but a muffin would).

  • @TP-mv6en
    @TP-mv6en 3 роки тому +3

    for your grandparents to have been gone to the us in the 1800s they and your parents would have had to be at least between the age of 50/60 when they had their respective children. think you meant your great grandparents or great great grandparents....