The conversation with Oberyn and Tyrion is one of my favorite scenes. The pain on Tyrion's face hearing about how much Cersei hated him even as a baby is a very emotional moment.
Also, that was Pedro Pascal's first scene. And if you've seen the bloopers you know he almost got set on fire by the torch falling. Peter Dinklage is great but Pascal is so amazing. He was BORN to play Oberyn
Except if you're with Ramsey, I don't think anyone can argue she's usually in the most dangerous of situations among all the characters; all because of who she is, who she's with, and what she knows.
Every time I watch this episode and he says, "That's not a monster. That's just a baby," and Tyrion, who has been called Half-man, Imp, Demon Monkey, and Dwarf his entire life, holds back tears at being called perfectly normal (while admittedly also being sad to hear that his sister has always hated him), I get punched in the heart.
"But what about what I want" Oberyn's speech gets me hyped up every time I hear it. I almost flipped my table with excitement when he proclaimed himself as Tyrions champion
Every time i hear him say "I didn't steal it, i was just playing with it" it breaks my heart to think of a little boy saying that to his big brother, terrified. :( it's so sad, man. You can even see it in his eyes, how broken he is by it.
I know we're not supposed to feel much sympathy for Lysa in the show, but I just came here to point out that Littlefinger ruined her ENTIRE life. Given the way she was dicked around (figuratively and literally) from childhood to now, her being bonkers was inevitable. I understand why they chose not to go this way on the show, but it always stuck with me in the books that when Littlefinger pushed her out the moon door, she didn't scream. She didn't scream because she was already dead -- Littlefinger's words that he'd never loved her, that her entire life was a lie and manipulation, which she probably always knew deep down but simply couldn't accept, had stabbed her through the heart. And lastly, just think about how cruel that is. Littlefinger knew he was going to push her to her death. He could have said anything or nothing. But he chose to say the most hurtful possible thing knowing that those words would be ringing in her ears for a full minute as she falls to her certain death. That is AWFUL. Yeah, that bit about how Lysa didn't scream when he pushed her always made me feel really bad for her.
Just like how Cat has no reaction as she dies. Cat was dead the moment she finished screaming for Robb. The actual death was just a technicality at that point.
Her being bonkers was from the fact her father was old as crap when he conceived her, old men's children are more prone to genetic and biological issues.
Alliser Thorne calls Jon "Lord Snow" as a form mockery, he does it to all the new recruits. Lord Snow, Ser Piggy, Aurochs are just a few examples. He continues to call him that now because he hates Jon.
It also plays on the fact that, being a bastard, Jon could never be a lord (unless legitimised, of course, but that almost never happens, much less after taking the black).
That Tyrion and Oberyn scene 😩. When he says “ that’s not a monster, that’s just a baby.” It’s just heartbreaking. The look on Tyrion’s face. And we learn Cersei has been hateful since childhood
One thing I've noticed over the majority of your reaction videos is, Nikki is always dialed in 100% with her eyes locked onto the screen while watching GOT. While Steven spends half the show staring across, at the side of Nikki's face, missing even the little jump-scare at 10:56, for example. Lol. We should start counting the amount of times Steven stares across at Nikki during their reactions, versus the amount of times she reciprocates.I'm willing to bet the staring is stacked at least 10:1 in favour of Steven. Lol
They recast The Mountain from the first few season, this guy is Halfthor Bjornson, he is a Multi Stongman winner and deadlifted 1,041 on the Elephant bar at the Arnold this year. He is a certified beast, and in real life is the nicest person. He is 6'9 just over 400 lbs
I thought the moment when Oberyn was telling Tyrion about what his sister did to him and said about him in his crib, was a strong piece of non-verbal acting by Tyrion (Peter Dinklage). His facial expressions shows the angst and pure sadness about learning that happened. The entire scene was great!
Pedro Pascal's performance as the Red Viper, along with Charles Dance, Jack Gleeson and Peter Dinklage, to me, is one of best in GOT. From the moment we see him he burns with a fire quite unlike anyone else on the show.
Prince Oberyn and Tyrion’s scene in this episode is one of my favorite in the whole series. When they casted Pedro Pascal, that was the first scene they recorded. They did that so the actor knew where his motives were, and you can see it in every scene.
I really enjoyed Tyrion and Jamies convo, he did speak the truth but he shouldnt take it out on his only support. My fave scene by far was and still is Tyrion and Oberyn. Wow the emotion, I was in tears "Thats not a monster, I told Cersai, that's just a baby." WOWOWowoww!!! Amazing acting. Two amazing characters, What a super show! Also a fact, the guy that plays the mountain is the worlds strongest man.
He is the current World's Strongest Man and is the first person to have won the Arnold Strongman Classic, Europe's Strongest Man and World's Strongest Man in the same calendar year.
that scene with tyrion and oberyn is one of my favorites in the series!! that story basically summing that he saw tyrion as just another person (aside from being a lannister lol) and nothing monstrous about him as well as declaring himself tyrions champion.. so awesome lol
Love Nikki's reaction to Oberyn's speach. Also, notice that at 19:38 Steven is shaking his head in disgust and then seconds later nodding it in anticipation haha "Let's go!"
Baelish was also the key to the Lannister-Tyrell alliance. He did this during the aftermath of Renly’s death. This, as you know, led to Stannis’ defeat during the Battle at the Blackwater. With Stannis defeated, Tywin was able to architect the Red Wedding. So yeah, the Mockingbird did a **few** things.
Littlefinger controls the Vale now because he is Robin's step-father & Robin is underage. If Robin dies then someone with Arryn family blood would become Lord of the Vale not Petyr. For Littlefinger to become Lord of the Vale he would need to seize power by force & probably would need the support of the other Bannermen (Lords) in the Vale and they are unlikely to go for that. Remember Littlefinger is actually a fairly minor Lord who has managed to work his way up to a prominient position in the Court through cunning & guile. He has influence but not direct power.
Oberyn is one of my favorite characters, and Pedro Pascal was just magnificent in that scene with Tyrion. We get to see what a good man Oberyn truly is. And it's also so beautifully and breathtakingly shot -- Oberyn looks like he stepped out of a Rembrandt painting when he turns back and says "I will be your champion." Loved him and am so happy for Pedro Pascal's current success -- it was always on the way after this.
This is my favorite episode. Not because of some spectacular action or stuff, just because it contains two of my favorite scenes. The dialog between The Hound and Arya, where he explains to her what loneliness really means. And the scene with Oberyn and Tyrion.
they do an amazing job in this show to really make the fans care about these characters... Hound has always been very entertaining but now with some backstory, we care more about him. And the fact that Oberyn saw Tyrion as a baby when everyone else saw him as a monster only made us love his character more. - Steven
No matter how many times I see this Oberyn/Tyrion scene, I tear up when Oberyn says, "that's just a baby..." All the cruelty Tyrion has experienced at the hands of his sister and father is captured in that moment. That's how I feel anyway.
I think Oberyn does not like Tyrion as a Lannister but strongly sympathizes with Tyrion the dwarf. There were similarities between Tyrion’s scenes and A Christmas Carol. In the latter, Scrooge is visited by three ghosts who represent certain aspects of time. Three warriors paid a visit to Tyrion. Jaime as his past, Bronn as his present, and Oberyn as his uncertain future.
Well you two, wasn't that scene between Tyrion and The Prince awesome??????!!!!!!!!???????? The acting on point and the writing second to none, THIS SHOW IS TOO MUCH!!! Love it. That scene is epic. I also got goosebumps as soon as he declared he would be his champ.
Coming back to rewatch this... I love Nikki's predictive ability, talking about how that's what Baelish does, making everyone a psycho... Sansa: "That's what you do, isn't it? That's what you've always done..."
nikki's reaction at the end is adorable 23:23 If there's one thing GRRM is great at, it's replacing bad guys with worse bad guys. Ramsay is the psychopath to Joffrey's sociopath, it's brilliant when you notice the differences between them. btw You're right, the Mountain changed 3 times, this current one in real life wins strongest man tournaments-he's legit.
22:32 has always been funny ... "LOOK DOWN...LOOK DOWN....LOOK DOWN!" The music at the end is so wonderful...the music that was playing when Petr gave the "Chaos is a ladder" speech. And I always cry when Oberyn gives his speech.
Baelish killing Lysa in this way is probably the first time where Littlefinger did something on the spot. He usually or always predicts what’s gonna happen next and has plan for everything.
Brendan Beckett Well that’s what i’m saying, he definitely planned to kill her eventually to take control of the vale, but definitely not in this fashion.
BTW the song at the end credits is petyr baelish' theme song (knowledge is power) and is up there with rains of castamere and the tageryan battle theme for me. it always plays when littlefinger is up to some epic fuckery like during the "chaos is a ladder" scene with varys. God i love littlefinger! when a character has his own theme music, they are very important
The Mountain's actor has actually changed 2 times during the show, in season 1 it was the guy who sliced the horse head, then in season 2 (or 3) there was another actor for like one or two episodes who played the mountain, but all he did was sit in a table full of people and nod a couple times, and now in season 4 they needed someone better, so let me present to you the Icelandic strongman and actor Halfthor Bjornsson, the 206cm 200kg (that's 6'9" 440lb imperial) 2018 world's strongest man title winner.
I don't get why they were disappointed in Bronn not fighting for Tyrion. He knew he couldn't beat the Mountain, and he's already risked his life several times during the friendship for Tyrion. He didn't want Tyrion to die, but he didn't really want to die for him, either.
Ser Alliser has always mocked Jon by calling him 'Lord Snow.' He started it in season 1, mocking him for being a bastard. It was the title for the episode when Tyrion gives Jon leadership advice, explaining that Jon is a better fighter than the other recruits because he was castle trained and they weren't, and that a good leader would help them learn rather than just constantly show them up.
"That dude with the thing and the stuff...." 😂😂😂 I've been watching the show for 7 years and I still refer to some of the characters as "That dude and the chick". It took me an entire season to get The hounds name. Or remember the youngest Stark boy.😎
Gregor Clegane, nicknamed The Mountain was originally portrayed by Australian actor Conan Stevens in season one, and by Welsh actor Ian Whyte in season two; Icelandic actor and strongman Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson took over the role from season four
Oberyn is an absolute just...I have no word for the sheer amounts of badassery. He's just great, awesome, and everything. Also, follow Hot Pie's advice: Never give up on the gravy
Watching and loving the reactions from Newcastle in the UK guys. You're smashing it with remembering all the names and seriously powering through the seasons! :)
To keep things in perspective, Littlefinger (born 268 AC) is closer in age to Sansa (286 AC, so 18 yr age difference), than Jorah (254 AC) is to Danaerys (284 AC, so a 30 yr difference), according the the Wiki. Yet we joke about Jorah being "friendzoned," and consider Littlefinger and Sansa much more "icky." Of course, that's not taking personalities into consideration...
Tbh, they made Littlefinger on the show much creepier than his alter ego, Littlefinger from the books. And Jorah from the show is a lot nicer and good looking that book!Jorah.
Jorah doesn't tell Dany he was in love with her mother, talk about how he could have been her father in another world, and then kiss her. Ick factor X 1000
Maybe there's also the fact that they casted an older Dany in the show than the books? If I can recall Dany is 14 in the books at the beginning and Sansa 12 I think? Sophie is almost 10 years younger than Emilia. I guess we see Dany less as a child than Sansa? ANd yes of course, the intentions are different between Jorah and Petyr
tierneybeckett LOL yeah. But that was in the books. Dany reminds Jorah of his wife, one of the reasons hes attached to her butt like a lost puppy. Show made Jorah nicer
Such a powerful and amazing episode. The scene with Prince Oberyn and Tyrion was absolutely perfect and so emotional. They both are my favorites. You two are amazing. 😊
Robin is easily manipulated, why should littlefinger take on all the responsibilities himself when he can just use robin as a marionette from behind the scenes?
@@emmaconnolly5738 yeah, but the point is he can't get rid of Robin Also the lords of the vale hate littlefinger so if Robin robin dies, littlefinger's fucked
That's a perfect reason for Littlefinger to do the same thing at the Vale that he and Varys were constantly trying to do at King's Landing - be the power behind the throne, not the person who's actually sitting on it.
The actor playing the mountain is a real life strong man competition guy! He's actually the 3rd mountain actor in the show. There was the 1st actor who killed the horse, then the other guy who was at Harrenhall with Tywin, now this monstrosity! 3rd times a charm I suppose!
confucius12012 What if Jamie was low key getting really good with his left hand and all his struggles were just a swerve to make people think he wasn't getting better? Calling any theory in this show ridiculous is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.
Fun fact: this new actor playing The Mountain is the same age as the actor playing Jojin Reed (kid with epilepsy going north with Bran... was the kid in Love Actually. ). They were both 26 during season 4.
I think Robin is Littlefinger's son. Lord Arryn never had any children. Apparently he had a hard time impregnating .... Lysa. I can totally see LF as the father.
I've thought about that a few times but if he is, Lysa didn't know or she would've told Littlefinger. No way she was going to hide from him the fact he was the father of her only child.
I've always suspected the same... Valeria - How do we know she *didn't* tell Littlefinger? And how do we know Littlefinger would care...unless it benefitted Littlefinger?
It wouldn't benefit LF. Robin has taken his presumed father's title. He couldn't do that if LF acknowledged Robin as his son. Remember what he told Lysa....""only speaking of it will make it true". Something like that. In other words, don't even speak of it, dont whisper it, dont even think it.
If one did not hate Cersei before, then Oberyn's story would certainly do the trick. I know she was a child herself at the time, but it is still very messed up. Even Tyrion, who knew bloody well that his sister despises him, seemed upset to learn just how deep her hatred for him goes
The Mountain was actually recasted twice. In season 2 he was played by yet another actor, though his screen time was so brief most people don’t notice. He appears briefly at Harrenhall meeting with Tywin. He also looks radically different from the other two actors, even more so than this new guy looks from the season one actor.
I've watched a lot of reactions but I always skipped talking in the begging and after episode, you are the first ones I watch the whole reactions, love you!
Great reaction as always! Little finger did set in motion the chain of events. In my opinion, he does not have control of everything. He just has a plan ready for every outcome. So he is always one step ahead. And Oberyn is awesome!
Someone in another comment said these reactions are taking over their life, I feel the same! I kept checking all day yesterday till it was available and today at work I kept thinking how great it was going to be to get home and watch today's! I love your reactions but the discussions, theories and predictions are what I love the most! Steven had a great one with Oberyn!
The deal was if Tyrion confesses he will be allowed to join the Night's Watch. But he chose a Trial by combat instead. Normally Tyrion would be fighting for his own innocence against a named champion of the kingdom. But he can be represented by a voluntairy champion, in this case Oberyn Martell. Trial by combat is till the death. If Oberyn falls, Tyrion will be sentenced to death.
Trial by combat is not always to the death. If the accuser retracts their accusation or if the accused admits guilt the trial can also end; however, since the sentence is usually death...it would typically mean a quicker or cleaner death. Since the Champions themselves are not the accuser or accused they don't typically yield. In the case of Sir Duncan the Tall, he won his case even though the majority of his side lost the battle since the thrown retracted their accusation.
Nikki, Steven, remember that first-cousin marriage is actually a normal thing on the setting. Tywin and his wife were first cousins, so were the parents of Ned, Benjen and Brandon. It's only wrong when it happens between siblings as well as parent/child like Cersei/Jaime and Craster and his daughters.
Whelp, now that song's in my head for the rest of the day. The Mountain still popping up almost made me spit out my coffee. You know your comment section too well, Steve lol I love how good of a baker Hotpie became and how they only had to do one small clip of the bread to show us. But look how short Baelish is compared to the 14 year old girl lol
The other recast for this season is Tommen. He was shown in Seasons 1 and 2, mostly when dealing with Sansa or Cersei, but the showrunners wanted to age him up a bit for this season to push the timeline forward. If you remember the Lannister boys that were murdered by Karstark in Season 3, one of them is actually Tommen's actor. They liked him so much that they recast him the next season as Tommen.
The conversation with Oberyn and Tyrion is one of my favorite scenes. The pain on Tyrion's face hearing about how much Cersei hated him even as a baby is a very emotional moment.
Cercei was a monster even as a child.
Also, that was Pedro Pascal's first scene. And if you've seen the bloopers you know he almost got set on fire by the torch falling. Peter Dinklage is great but Pascal is so amazing. He was BORN to play Oberyn
Oberyn is one of my favorites. That speech was so terrific. Steven was killing it with correct predictions for this episode.
Do0msday same one of my favorite characters in GOT
He was pretty close!
“I will be your champion” goosebumps. Yea he one of my faves aswell
Still my favorite "talking scene" Oberyn & Tyrion seriously that shit was epic.
That's one of the best book scenes too, and they executed it perfectly in my opinion.
Lord Snow is actually an insult, not a sign of respect.
Episode 3 of season 1 was titled "Lord Snow". This was when Jon arrived at Castle Black and met Ser Allisar Thorn.
Exactly. It's a direct stab at Jon being a bastard and the fact that his father was a lord; something he'll never be.
At Craster’s Keep, before he killed the dude, (was it Karl?), he was also called Lord Snow.
Titanic what are you doing out of the ocean!?
did they seriously just now realize he's been calling him Lord Snow this whole time? lmao
Oberyn’s story about meeting Tyrion for the first time always gets me teary eyed. Showed Oberyn’s good heart and made me respect him more.
Poor Sansa is legit on the Wackos of Westeros World tour.
That poor girl was born with a giant shit magnet.
LOL now thats tooo funny
@@BrendanBeckett No spoilers
@@xajaso i don't really think that's a spoiler but ok i removed it
Except if you're with Ramsey, I don't think anyone can argue she's usually in the most dangerous of situations among all the characters; all because of who she is, who she's with, and what she knows.
Every time I watch this episode and he says, "That's not a monster. That's just a baby," and Tyrion, who has been called Half-man, Imp, Demon Monkey, and Dwarf his entire life, holds back tears at being called perfectly normal (while admittedly also being sad to hear that his sister has always hated him), I get punched in the heart.
"Thats not a monster, I told Cersei, thats just a baby".. ooft gets me every damn time!!
"But what about what I want" Oberyn's speech gets me hyped up every time I hear it. I almost flipped my table with excitement when he proclaimed himself as Tyrions champion
The Red Viper, such a great character, his speech about Tyrion as a baby is excellent
He's climbing up our top baby face list very quickly... he's an awesome character. - Steven
Every time i hear him say "I didn't steal it, i was just playing with it" it breaks my heart to think of a little boy saying that to his big brother, terrified. :( it's so sad, man. You can even see it in his eyes, how broken he is by it.
I love Arya and the Hound lmao
"Is he on your little list?"
"I don't know his name"
Turns to creep:
"What's your name"
Fantastic exchange
I know we're not supposed to feel much sympathy for Lysa in the show, but I just came here to point out that Littlefinger ruined her ENTIRE life. Given the way she was dicked around (figuratively and literally) from childhood to now, her being bonkers was inevitable. I understand why they chose not to go this way on the show, but it always stuck with me in the books that when Littlefinger pushed her out the moon door, she didn't scream. She didn't scream because she was already dead -- Littlefinger's words that he'd never loved her, that her entire life was a lie and manipulation, which she probably always knew deep down but simply couldn't accept, had stabbed her through the heart. And lastly, just think about how cruel that is. Littlefinger knew he was going to push her to her death. He could have said anything or nothing. But he chose to say the most hurtful possible thing knowing that those words would be ringing in her ears for a full minute as she falls to her certain death. That is AWFUL. Yeah, that bit about how Lysa didn't scream when he pushed her always made me feel really bad for her.
Holy hell, I didn't know she didn't scream on the books. It makes complete sense. That's awful.
Just like how Cat has no reaction as she dies. Cat was dead the moment she finished screaming for Robb. The actual death was just a technicality at that point.
Littlefinger is the worst. In a show full of awful people doing awful things, he is the worst.
Her being bonkers was from the fact her father was old as crap when he conceived her, old men's children are more prone to genetic and biological issues.
@@saylosrelyks8645 it was likely a mix of both because you are right the older the parents the higher chances of issues
Alliser Thorne calls Jon "Lord Snow" as a form mockery, he does it to all the new recruits. Lord Snow, Ser Piggy, Aurochs are just a few examples. He continues to call him that now because he hates Jon.
It also plays on the fact that, being a bastard, Jon could never be a lord (unless legitimised, of course, but that almost never happens, much less after taking the black).
@Vik Vik lol! Maybe I just need to give live a chance...
Steven: "Can somebody send Lysa flying?"
Littlefinger: "On it. Let'ssssss GO!"
I'm putting a moon door in my tree house.
a requirement for anything that's built above the ground.
@@NikkiStevenReact "This. Is. Westeros!"
That Tyrion and Oberyn scene 😩. When he says “ that’s not a monster, that’s just a baby.” It’s just heartbreaking. The look on Tyrion’s face.
And we learn Cersei has been hateful since childhood
Steven: Someone make Lysa fly!
me: evil laugh
You have the same reaction as Petyr would have had
I’m so glad you guys reacted to Oberyn’s speech to Tyrion. It was and is a very good scene to me one of my top favorites.
Actually it was very first scene to play for Pedro Pascal(Oberyn Martell). So props to him.
That Prince Oberyn's speech tho. Pedro Pascal is such a great actor. Can't wait for more scenes from him.
One thing I've noticed over the majority of your reaction videos is, Nikki is always dialed in 100% with her eyes locked onto the screen while watching GOT. While Steven spends half the show staring across, at the side of Nikki's face, missing even the little jump-scare at 10:56, for example. Lol.
We should start counting the amount of times Steven stares across at Nikki during their reactions, versus the amount of times she reciprocates.I'm willing to bet the staring is stacked at least 10:1 in favour of Steven. Lol
They recast The Mountain from the first few season, this guy is Halfthor Bjornson, he is a Multi Stongman winner and deadlifted 1,041 on the Elephant bar at the Arnold this year. He is a certified beast, and in real life is the nicest person. He is 6'9 just over 400 lbs
James Finn Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson is one crazy name. Wish I knew how to pronounce it lol
James Finn
And they had already recast the Mountain once for the second season.
emmainkeri here’s hoping they don’t recast anyone again lol
@Squirrel it was the second one
@@JackieAyyy it quite easy to pronounce. First name (Haf-por) Second name (Julius)- just like Caesar - Surname (Bee-orn-son).
Steven has magic powers, every time he says "I wish someone would kill this person" they die the same episode!
it was said of joffrey many times.
I thought the moment when Oberyn was telling Tyrion about what his sister did to him and said about him in his crib, was a strong piece of non-verbal acting by Tyrion (Peter Dinklage). His facial expressions shows the angst and pure sadness about learning that happened. The entire scene was great!
Pedro Pascal's performance as the Red Viper, along with Charles Dance, Jack Gleeson and Peter Dinklage, to me, is one of best in GOT. From the moment we see him he burns with a fire quite unlike anyone else on the show.
Prince Oberyn and Tyrion’s scene in this episode is one of my favorite in the whole series.
When they casted Pedro Pascal, that was the first scene they recorded. They did that so the actor knew where his motives were, and you can see it in every scene.
I really enjoyed Tyrion and Jamies convo, he did speak the truth but he shouldnt take it out on his only support. My fave scene by far was and still is Tyrion and Oberyn. Wow the emotion, I was in tears "Thats not a monster, I told Cersai, that's just a baby." WOWOWowoww!!! Amazing acting. Two amazing characters, What a super show! Also a fact, the guy that plays the mountain is the worlds strongest man.
The Mountain has won The World’s Stongest man competition a couple of times.
Once actually.
Braun Strowman / Adam Scherr said that he is good friend with Hafþór Björnsson
He is the current champion.
watching videos of one of the biggest strongest guys in the world walk around with a tiny little dog is pretty dang funny.
He is the current World's Strongest Man and is the first person to have won the Arnold Strongman Classic, Europe's Strongest Man and World's Strongest Man in the same calendar year.
that scene with tyrion and oberyn is one of my favorites in the series!! that story basically summing that he saw tyrion as just another person (aside from being a lannister lol) and nothing monstrous about him as well as declaring himself tyrions champion.. so awesome lol
What this show does to people... :'D
First episode: _"Don't throw the kid out the window!"_
Thirty-seventh episode: _"Make the little bastard fly!"_
Love Nikki's reaction to Oberyn's speach. Also, notice that at 19:38 Steven is shaking his head in disgust and then seconds later nodding it in anticipation haha "Let's go!"
Lysa actually survived, gendry was rowing down the moon door.
Now they are figuring out truth behind littfinger's accent
@salah edd Bouchina its just a joke
@salah edd Bouchina she landed in Gendry's boat, in sitting position. She fine.
salah edd Bouchina it’s a joke lol
lol in sitting position
HAHAHA I am laughing so hard
Baelish was also the key to the Lannister-Tyrell alliance. He did this during the aftermath of Renly’s death. This, as you know, led to Stannis’ defeat during the Battle at the Blackwater. With Stannis defeated, Tywin was able to architect the Red Wedding. So yeah, the Mockingbird did a **few** things.
Littlefinger controls the Vale now because he is Robin's step-father & Robin is underage. If Robin dies then someone with Arryn family blood would become Lord of the Vale not Petyr. For Littlefinger to become Lord of the Vale he would need to seize power by force & probably would need the support of the other Bannermen (Lords) in the Vale and they are unlikely to go for that. Remember Littlefinger is actually a fairly minor Lord who has managed to work his way up to a prominient position in the Court through cunning & guile. He has influence but not direct power.
It's easy to forget with all the huge epic scenes in this series, but, the shots of Sansa in the snow at the Eyrie... Are beautiful shots.
The mockingbird happens to be Littlefinger’s personal sigil.
And the mockingbird is known to hide it's eggs in the nests of other birds. Hey, Robyn's an avian name, isn't it? :D
And change accents
Those last few seconds when Tyrion gasps and holds back tears of joy...
Yeah, me too little brother.
If you lot think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention
I just lolled the fuck out of this coz I am terrified of EVERYTHING Game of Thrones at this point.
You vicious bastard. XD
Oberyn is one of my favorite characters, and Pedro Pascal was just magnificent in that scene with Tyrion. We get to see what a good man Oberyn truly is. And it's also so beautifully and breathtakingly shot -- Oberyn looks like he stepped out of a Rembrandt painting when he turns back and says "I will be your champion." Loved him and am so happy for Pedro Pascal's current success -- it was always on the way after this.
This is my favorite episode. Not because of some spectacular action or stuff, just because it contains two of my favorite scenes. The dialog between The Hound and Arya, where he explains to her what loneliness really means. And the scene with Oberyn and Tyrion.
they do an amazing job in this show to really make the fans care about these characters... Hound has always been very entertaining but now with some backstory, we care more about him. And the fact that Oberyn saw Tyrion as a baby when everyone else saw him as a monster only made us love his character more. - Steven
No matter how many times I see this Oberyn/Tyrion scene, I tear up when Oberyn says, "that's just a baby..." All the cruelty Tyrion has experienced at the hands of his sister and father is captured in that moment. That's how I feel anyway.
I feel the same way, I was holding in the tears, the thought of someone hurting a baby.....I just can't. - Nikki
Tyrion and Oberyn scene - one of the best in the whole show, fantastic acting by both P. Dinklage and P. Pascal, respect
The previous deal is now void. If Oberyn wins, Tyrion goes free. If Gregor wins, Tyrion dies.
I think Oberyn does not like Tyrion as a Lannister but strongly sympathizes with Tyrion the dwarf.
There were similarities between Tyrion’s scenes and A Christmas Carol. In the latter, Scrooge is visited by three ghosts who represent certain aspects of time. Three warriors paid a visit to Tyrion. Jaime as his past, Bronn as his present, and Oberyn as his uncertain future.
Hot Pie coming back was one of my favorite parts of this episode. The actor opened a bakery in London called You Know Nothing John Dough.
Whenever Oberyn talks you just need to listen to him and be in awe at his good performance
"You cannot give up on the gravy!"
No gravy no pie!
Guy's a freekin' poet! Words to live by.
Indeed. Is his bakery still open?
Ali Gaines he was in season 7 so yeah he's still keeping up with that gravy. LOL
I wonder if the writers allowing Hot Pie his dissertation on making pie was a nod to how much GRRM goes into the description of the food in the books?
“Can someone send Lysa flying?” 😄 I cried the first time I heard Oberyn’s story about seeing baby Tyrion. It’s such a sweet scene.
I seriously don't understand how you guys can keep from binge watching this.
We really want to but our life schedules dictate our reaction schedule.
You guys are much more responsible than I’ll ever be.
@@brutusjudas5842 😂😂 lmao same
Well you two, wasn't that scene between Tyrion and The Prince awesome??????!!!!!!!!???????? The acting on point and the writing second to none, THIS SHOW IS TOO MUCH!!! Love it. That scene is epic. I also got goosebumps as soon as he declared he would be his champ.
Coming back to rewatch this... I love Nikki's predictive ability, talking about how that's what Baelish does, making everyone a psycho...
Sansa: "That's what you do, isn't it? That's what you've always done..."
nikki's reaction at the end is adorable 23:23
If there's one thing GRRM is great at, it's replacing bad guys with worse bad guys. Ramsay is the psychopath to Joffrey's sociopath, it's brilliant when you notice the differences between them.
btw You're right, the Mountain changed 3 times, this current one in real life wins strongest man tournaments-he's legit.
22:32 has always been funny ... "LOOK DOWN...LOOK DOWN....LOOK DOWN!" The music at the end is so wonderful...the music that was playing when Petr gave the "Chaos is a ladder" speech. And I always cry when Oberyn gives his speech.
Baelish killing Lysa in this way is probably the first time where Littlefinger did something on the spot. He usually or always predicts what’s gonna happen next and has plan for everything.
Or gets it to happen in a roundabout way... by someone else's hands...
I'm sure he planned to eventually this just sped up that plan
Brendan Beckett Well that’s what i’m saying, he definitely planned to kill her eventually to take control of the vale, but definitely not in this fashion.
You guys have become part of my morning routine 😂
Two sad stories from the hound and Oberyn. And yes, the mountain has been recast.
The scene with Sandor and Arya always brings tears to my eyes. LOVE The Hound.
BTW the song at the end credits is petyr baelish' theme song (knowledge is power) and is up there with rains of castamere and the tageryan battle theme for me. it always plays when littlefinger is up to some epic fuckery like during the "chaos is a ladder" scene with varys. God i love littlefinger! when a character has his own theme music, they are very important
I think the starks theme is amazing
Love Petyr, too.
The Mountain's actor has actually changed 2 times during the show, in season 1 it was the guy who sliced the horse head, then in season 2 (or 3) there was another actor for like one or two episodes who played the mountain, but all he did was sit in a table full of people and nod a couple times, and now in season 4 they needed someone better, so let me present to you the Icelandic strongman and actor Halfthor Bjornsson, the 206cm 200kg (that's 6'9" 440lb imperial) 2018 world's strongest man title winner.
It's not about "wanting" Robin to die,.
Narrator - They wanted Robin to die
He could be adopted by Bruce Wayne. He's an orphan. That's a bonus.
11:21 Arya just did a Chris Jericho " You just made the list"
I don't get why they were disappointed in Bronn not fighting for Tyrion.
He knew he couldn't beat the Mountain, and he's already risked his life several times during the friendship for Tyrion. He didn't want Tyrion to die, but he didn't really want to die for him, either.
A realist
23:25 aaaah, the frustrations we all faced on weekly showings with the prediction boards as our only source of comfort through the long week ahead.
Ser Alliser has always mocked Jon by calling him 'Lord Snow.' He started it in season 1, mocking him for being a bastard. It was the title for the episode when Tyrion gives Jon leadership advice, explaining that Jon is a better fighter than the other recruits because he was castle trained and they weren't, and that a good leader would help them learn rather than just constantly show them up.
"That dude with the thing and the stuff...." 😂😂😂
I've been watching the show for 7 years and I still refer to some of the characters as "That dude and the chick". It took me an entire season to get The hounds name. Or remember the youngest Stark boy.😎
That Oberyn and Tyrion scene, holy shit the acting and sadness 😭💔 Poor Sansa.
Steve’s eyes got watery with that Oberyn and Tyrion scene lol
it was pretty epic
Jayrny24 yeah I noticed it too.
Gregor Clegane, nicknamed The Mountain was originally portrayed by Australian actor Conan Stevens in season one, and by Welsh actor Ian Whyte in season two; Icelandic actor and strongman Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson took over the role from season four
Interesting that the Haf in his name means sea. Water seems like a very dangerous thing to combine with some of Thor's powers. :D
Oberyn is an absolute just...I have no word for the sheer amounts of badassery. He's just great, awesome, and everything.
Also, follow Hot Pie's advice: Never give up on the gravy
The actor playing hotpie opened a bakery and he sells the direwolf bread. His bakery is very successful
bouchra saih I’m pretty sure the bakery is called “You know nothing Jon Dough” which is hilarious
Watching and loving the reactions from Newcastle in the UK guys. You're smashing it with remembering all the names and seriously powering through the seasons! :)
With Tyrion choosing a trial by combat, if his champion dies, then Tyrion will be put to death. If his champion wins, he lives and is set free.
Diana Gero
we didn't forget that at all... we just haven't seen, as far as I can remember, what happened to the person whose champion loses.
You guys are having so much fun, especially with Baelish in the end. Steven’s smile haha
And Nikki going “mmmmph!” was adorable lol
CHAOS IS A LADDAAAH
23:18 That badass shot of Little Finger though... EPIC
To keep things in perspective, Littlefinger (born 268 AC) is closer in age to Sansa (286 AC, so 18 yr age difference), than Jorah (254 AC) is to Danaerys (284 AC, so a 30 yr difference), according the the Wiki. Yet we joke about Jorah being "friendzoned," and consider Littlefinger and Sansa much more "icky." Of course, that's not taking personalities into consideration...
Tbh, they made Littlefinger on the show much creepier than his alter ego, Littlefinger from the books. And Jorah from the show is a lot nicer and good looking that book!Jorah.
Jorah doesn't tell Dany he was in love with her mother, talk about how he could have been her father in another world, and then kiss her.
Ick factor X 1000
Maybe there's also the fact that they casted an older Dany in the show than the books? If I can recall Dany is 14 in the books at the beginning and Sansa 12 I think? Sophie is almost 10 years younger than Emilia. I guess we see Dany less as a child than Sansa? ANd yes of course, the intentions are different between Jorah and Petyr
tierneybeckett LOL yeah. But that was in the books. Dany reminds Jorah of his wife, one of the reasons hes attached to her butt like a lost puppy. Show made Jorah nicer
Iain Glen made him hotter. :-)
Such a powerful and amazing episode. The scene with Prince Oberyn and Tyrion was absolutely perfect and so emotional. They both are my favorites. You two are amazing. 😊
Littlefinger can not just kill Robin, the lords of the vale swore fealty to House Arryn
Sadly, that awful child is their lord
Robin is easily manipulated, why should littlefinger take on all the responsibilities himself when he can just use robin as a marionette from behind the scenes?
@@emmaconnolly5738 yeah, but the point is he can't get rid of Robin
Also the lords of the vale hate littlefinger so if Robin robin dies, littlefinger's fucked
That's a perfect reason for Littlefinger to do the same thing at the Vale that he and Varys were constantly trying to do at King's Landing - be the power behind the throne, not the person who's actually sitting on it.
Looks like Bronze Yohn Royce straightened him up. Bet these guys feel bad about wanting the kid to die lmao
The actor playing the mountain is a real life strong man competition guy! He's actually the 3rd mountain actor in the show. There was the 1st actor who killed the horse, then the other guy who was at Harrenhall with Tywin, now this monstrosity! 3rd times a charm I suppose!
Someone redeemed himself with that Oberyn prediction... :)
When Steven said his prediction at the beginning, I was like "what? He figured it out!!".
Yeh Was a great prediction
The law said there must be 3 judges.
But his prediction that Jamie would fight for the other side was pretty ridiculous.
confucius12012
What if Jamie was low key getting really good with his left hand and all his struggles were just a swerve to make people think he wasn't getting better? Calling any theory in this show ridiculous is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.
Fun fact: this new actor playing The Mountain is the same age as the actor playing Jojin Reed (kid with epilepsy going north with Bran... was the kid in Love Actually. ). They were both 26 during season 4.
Jojen is 26? :o
He is born in 1990, so 28 now :)
The Mountain is born in 1988, so he is 2 years older (and is 3 times the size...lol).
I think Robin is Littlefinger's son. Lord Arryn never had any children. Apparently he had a hard time impregnating .... Lysa. I can totally see LF as the father.
I've thought about that a few times but if he is, Lysa didn't know or she would've told Littlefinger. No way she was going to hide from him the fact he was the father of her only child.
Littlefinger is said to have been small and sickly too if I’m not mistaken... 🤭
I've always suspected the same...
Valeria - How do we know she *didn't* tell Littlefinger?
And how do we know Littlefinger would care...unless it benefitted Littlefinger?
It wouldn't benefit LF. Robin has taken his presumed father's title. He couldn't do that if LF acknowledged Robin as his son. Remember what he told Lysa....""only speaking of it will make it true". Something like that. In other words, don't even speak of it, dont whisper it, dont even think it.
Yeah, probably not true.
Turns out Lysa fell head over heels for Little Finger.....then fell head over heels.
If one did not hate Cersei before, then Oberyn's story would certainly do the trick. I know she was a child herself at the time, but it is still very messed up. Even Tyrion, who knew bloody well that his sister despises him, seemed upset to learn just how deep her hatred for him goes
The Mountain was actually recasted twice. In season 2 he was played by yet another actor, though his screen time was so brief most people don’t notice. He appears briefly at Harrenhall meeting with Tywin. He also looks radically different from the other two actors, even more so than this new guy looks from the season one actor.
I've watched a lot of reactions but I always skipped talking in the begging and after episode, you are the first ones I watch the whole reactions, love you!
We really appreciate that Jarin!! We really enjoy having those conversations so it's nice to know people are watching and enjoying them.
Still goosebumps when Oberyn say I will be you're Champion . And good prediction Steven
Just watch one more. You know you want to. We do too.
OMG just @ this moment I am going home from work and I was wondering where is episode and BOOOOM! Made my day!
Great reaction as always! Little finger did set in motion the chain of events. In my opinion, he does not have control of everything. He just has a plan ready for every outcome. So he is always one step ahead. And Oberyn is awesome!
I’ve never clicked something so fast 💨 in me life!!!! Lmao
Saaaaame
same hahahahaha
I can still contain it 😂 i hope they'll do one tomorrow too
Someone in another comment said these reactions are taking over their life, I feel the same! I kept checking all day yesterday till it was available and today at work I kept thinking how great it was going to be to get home and watch today's! I love your reactions but the discussions, theories and predictions are what I love the most! Steven had a great one with Oberyn!
The deal was if Tyrion confesses he will be allowed to join the Night's Watch. But he chose a Trial by combat instead. Normally Tyrion would be fighting for his own innocence against a named champion of the kingdom. But he can be represented by a voluntairy champion, in this case Oberyn Martell. Trial by combat is till the death. If Oberyn falls, Tyrion will be sentenced to death.
MarieAnne he has to confess to plead for mercy
true but he had to keep his mouth shut.
Trial by combat is not always to the death. If the accuser retracts their accusation or if the accused admits guilt the trial can also end; however, since the sentence is usually death...it would typically mean a quicker or cleaner death. Since the Champions themselves are not the accuser or accused they don't typically yield. In the case of Sir Duncan the Tall, he won his case even though the majority of his side lost the battle since the thrown retracted their accusation.
if i remember correctly it was Trial of Seven right? Seven champions on either side fight til they concede or defeated.
That will look dope on screen
Nikki, Steven, remember that first-cousin marriage is actually a normal thing on the setting. Tywin and his wife were first cousins, so were the parents of Ned, Benjen and Brandon. It's only wrong when it happens between siblings as well as parent/child like Cersei/Jaime and Craster and his daughters.
Whelp, now that song's in my head for the rest of the day.
The Mountain still popping up almost made me spit out my coffee. You know your comment section too well, Steve lol
I love how good of a baker Hotpie became and how they only had to do one small clip of the bread to show us.
But look how short Baelish is compared to the 14 year old girl lol
It looks like Sansa got all the heigth that Arya didn't get.
They probably had to get the actor who played Baelish a box to stand on 'cause Sophie Turner is tall.
Nikkis reaction at the end was the cutest thing I've every witnessed 😂 I died laughing!
MOCK...YEAH...ING...YEAH...BIRD...YEAH...HAHAHAHAHAH...the nostalgia is real. loved that reference...thank you for that:).
The other recast for this season is Tommen. He was shown in Seasons 1 and 2, mostly when dealing with Sansa or Cersei, but the showrunners wanted to age him up a bit for this season to push the timeline forward. If you remember the Lannister boys that were murdered by Karstark in Season 3, one of them is actually Tommen's actor. They liked him so much that they recast him the next season as Tommen.
Just sat at my desk with a hot cup of coffee and saw this notification. Great morning !
Yo, listening to your speculation makes me so excited for your reaction to the next episode. I’m so glad you’re sharing your experience.
I was crying during that speech of Oberyn
so good
i enjoy hearing you two work out the info and guess , and how close you two are in some thoughts but so far away in others
Pedro Pascal is BAE!!!!!