I would love to see this cartridge expand and be brought mainstream. Seems like it has great potential to do many things well. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Now interests me. I’ve been looking for ways to get more speed from my military projectiles. 22-250 doesn’t have the barrel twist rate needed. 22 creedmoor would be ideal but this may be more obtainable for me to construct.
Nice video. I’ve been running my 22 Grendel for a couple years now. Been running H4350 with 75 grain ELDM’s. And hunting with 64 grain SGK’s with LeveR. The SD’s get tighter on the H4350 as you get the case to full capacity. Not compressed, but full. Getting 8 with mine and running 3027 with the 75’s.
Great work developing this round Kenny . I’m sure varmint shooters across the country will take notice of this cartridge and the rifle that you built for it . The phone will be going ballistic at DP Gunworks soon 😀.
The 22-250 was made in a semiautomatic platform "AR 15" By Olympic arms years ago. The 22-250 runs around 3,700 to 4,000 fps. Now change the barrel on the 22-250 to a 1to7 twist and you can shoot the 88 and 90 grain pills out to 1000 yards easily with better bc bullets. The 22-250 is a cheaper and easier to do than this. Great work as always and its nice to see your son out shooting. My son shoots with me too and it's great passing on the knowledge to him.
Thanks for sharing. I've built a few 22-250 AR10's reliability is hard to get as the 22-250 has a weird pressure curve. For the purposes of this rifle, this cartridge seems easy to load, offers higher capacity and I'm able to push 88gr at 3K. Pretty stellar performance with using less than 30gr or powder
@@EagleEyeShooting 88 grain bullet at 3K is the business. That will turn a coyote inside out! I bet that would make a potent deer round with the 75 grain gold dot going 3150 to 3200.
@@TheScottybr the 6arc and 6.5 Grendel have the same parent case. Both cartridges come from the 220 Russian. The big difference between an ARC case and a Grendel case is the shoulder on the ARC case is moved rewards .030".
@@Threegunmaster that's like saying the 6.5 creedmoor and 260rem use the same case. They are SIMILAR but not the same. 22 Grendel would have more case capacity than a 22arc but not much more.
Cool video! you're correct that advertised velocities are let's say OPTIMISTIC when it comes to factory ammunition. You're on the heels of the 22-250 for sure and with a 22" barrel at that. Cartridge efficiency is often overlooked when a person picks a cartridge for there next rifle. There are diminishing returns when it comes to case capacity. 6mm BR is a classic example of a small case pushing heavy for caliber bullets to almost 243 velocities, and with 10 grains less powder. And as an added bonus, double the barrel life. I will say you have the magneto speed right there backing up your velocity claims, and they are impressive. When I first got my chronograph and saw the REAL velocities of factory ammo it was an eye opener to say the least. You are not saying that the 22 grendel will out perform the 22-250, because a handloader can crank up the 22-250 also with certain powders. But comparing your results with FACTORY loaded 22-250 ammo, you're right there brother. Keep having fun and keep us updated with your project.
Sweet. I wanted to reload my 6.5 Grendel. No small rifle primers to be found anywhere. I did manage to acquire about 1000 rounds of Hornady before it all disappeared. Saving it for the zombie apocalypse.
The powder H380 got its name from being able to push a 55 grain bullet 3800 fps in a 24" 22-250 with 38 grains of powder. This was a well known accuracy load back in the day. 3500 fps with a 55 grain bullet isn't faster than a 22-250. 37.5 grains of Varget will get you in the same speed neighborhood. With that said, 3500 fps is nothing to sneeze at with a 55 grain bullet in an AR15.
That was cool.... Although I know this was already costly to run this build, and to do the testing and the R&D of this... I am now curious to see what the twist-rates of a few barrels would do, to show if things get better or worse, over what they are now or dangerous..LOL... When I just poked the math quickly, I can only assume the projectiles are BT's, but the surface area of the flat baked bullets, based on the 3500FPS, as per the chamber pressure, as you clearly noted, you are running a much MUCH heavier barrel, .. YIKES... LOL... I LOVE IT ! ! ! ! Those dudes are cruisin!!!! But all that blow-by onto the brass, I about a week ago, was just reading that a powder load under charged, can cause that, then it was followed up by, an over charge in powder, can also do that blow-by game... and the book did say, only experienced shooters/loaders should ever content with this... What are the odds that I am getting to witness this strange property of over pressure charged powder, after banging my head on the wall trying to understand how that can happen.. The Under charged powder, makes 100% sense to me, as the brass isn't being fire-formed outwards to seal against the chamber walls, ... The book also said that carbon blow-by on the neck is a typical and common thing, but down the rest of the brass shell, to use caution, unless you are a skilled loader, (Which I am not) so, I think you for show casing this rare situation of this is really cool. I learned allot on this one. I think the book called this process, blow-by-creepage, when it bleeds down the full length of the brass.. The book was saying there is a delicate balance of being normalized on lug stress pressures, and being too much for the lugs to contain. But their testing in this process claims that in that millionth of a second, the brass is actually not touching anything and is neutrally balanced, as it isn't touching the bolt face, the chamber walls, the neck & shoulder walls, nothing,, it is just chillin floating in the middle of gases, LOL. .My mind is like WHAT? Such an amazing process. I have not finished reading the section of this, as I needed time to allow this to download into my slow bean called a brain, but I shall finish the reading now. As I have no clue of the pro's & con''s of this rare oddity that you have made happen by design.. Where I had to take a break from the reading, was this was about bolt actions.. You are doing this in a gas gun...LOL. .As I understand, the projectile would have already left the barrel, by the time the carbon has "creeped" on down the length of the brass.. I don't know factually, just guessing.. I look forwards to learning more about this setup you built with this 22 Grendel. Also, you are running the A-tips.. If you ran the V-max 55gr projectiles, at 3500 fps, what would happen to the plastic tips? would they melt? even though today's plastic have amazing thermal resistance, just wondering...
The a tips were running at 2800fps. Older hornady polymer tipped bullets had in the past melted but the new tipped bullets (vmax, eld, sst, etc.) are designed not to melt or deform. The hornady superformance Varmint 22-250 load with 50gr vmax is rated at 4000 fps and has no problems.
@@treydenfrench7009 Roger that... Oddly enough, today, I received in the mail, Hornady's new product catalog... I'll be doing some reading the next few days, thank you.
Anything on the grendel case is gonna be solid. When my 6.5 barrel goes ill definitely try the 22. I have a bolt 22cm running 95gr smk at 3085 which isnt pushing hard but had a .8gr node with imr4451.
Most 50 grain 22-250 are a lot closer to 4000fps. But 35-36 is smokin out of ar 15 platform. Impressive I been looking for something close to 22-250 in the lighter 15 platform.
@@EagleEyeShooting My wife has a business license and we have thought about using it to stock bullets, powder and some archery equipment also. How difficult is that to do?
Have you tried 55gr or less all copper bullet on steel with that cartridge? I may go that route instead of a 22-250. You earned a subscribe with this one. Look forward to seeing more videos.
Thanks brother! I actually plan on doing more testing in a video shortly. Ive found a really good load with Everglades V4 bullets pushing 3450 FPS and holding 1/2 inch using H335
Consistent numbers with CFE223 powder is a problem I have dealt with Kenny. I will say with 308 Win. a hot node is where I got best results and have stayed. Definitely not as experienced as you, so you may have a better method besides changing powder. In my Rock River ATH v2 .223, 556 it has proven to be a very dirty powder, but I have 16# so it is what it is.😂🤣 Keep'em coming!
are you dumping powder with that progressive press? that's a hell of a spread. single stage a batch of ammo and see how accurate it can be. cool set though
Don’t get me wrong, that’s impressive velocity out of an AR-15. But a quick search would’ve shown you Nosler has load data on 22-250 that is 3600-3800 FPS with a 55 gr.
What is published and what people actually get (not handloading), folks usually find the manufacturer exaggerating. Not that your wrong. I have handloads for this Savage pushing 53gr pills at 4200.... Again it's just a comparison. Not a pissing match. Though, having this velocity in the hands of a varmint shooter... one would prefer a semi auto over a 26inch bolt gun. Yes I know they make 22-250 AR10's. I've built a few and are not 100% reliable
@@EagleEyeShooting definitely not trying to get into an argument here. Been thinking about doing something similar but 20 cal since I can’t seem to find any decent 204 ruger brass. Split between Grendel/ARC and 6.8 SPC as a parent case.
Looking into this after you mentioned it on last week's Livestream with EagleRun23. Curious, I heard it described as 6 ARC on the call, is this the same thing? Also, where do I get a barrel?
I have seen blackened cases like that on 5.6 X 57 cases when I was stationed in Germany. It was caused by a very thick case neck not expanding to seal the gas The Germans run a very thick case neck so the chamber can accommodate a 22 LR adapter. If they loaded the 5.6 X 57 hot the problem went away. Doesn't seem like that is you're problem though.
We use our footage to catch any flaws in our shooting. The follow through method is something I personally switch back and forth on due to using a Triggertech 2 stage triggers set at 1#. Double taps are a thing to avoid
@@EagleEyeShooting In many ways this is exactly what I'm looking for in a "field gun" I want sizzler flat shooting for head shots at game out to 250-300 (using lighter weight, flat base bullets), and at least some potential for long range with high BC bullets as a "sniping" feature. This fits that bill perfectly! Very sweet! Thanks for the videos and experiments.
Velocities is not what depletes barrel life, its heat. Fortunately this cartridge even at those speeds do not generate much heat with only 30grs of powder. As compared to a 243 win
Just curious what type of case lube are you using and have you ever had it contaminate your powder?? I've never sized brass on my Dillon 550C when loading ammo because I've always worried the case lube would contaminate my powder. So I size on a single stage, wet tumble the lube off, and dry then in the oven.
I'm currently just testing it to see if i need to make any chamber changes. Reliability is priority followed by accuracy. More videos soon. Ill announce if this becomes available for sale. DPGUNWORKS.COM
@@EagleEyeShooting So you work at DPGUNWORKS or own this co.pany? I'm very interested in thiis round. I currently run a 6.5 Grendel so thinking I could use the same bolt carrier group using this round. Your thoughts. Thanks
Soooo the Russians invented the 7.62x39. Then they took that to make the 220 russian for the Olympics which is just the x39 necked down to 22 with a sharper shoulder. Then the Americans took the 220 Russian to make the 6.5 grendel. Then you took the grendel to make the 220 russian. Do you see the confusion I have here?
Im confused why even give a hoot who invented what. Someone had the idea of using a 220 Russian case with a 22 cal projectile and it turned out to be an outstanding performer.
@Eagle Eye Shooting the 220 Russian is essentially what you made here is what I'm saying. Yes it is an incredible round. And for decades it was considered the most inherently accurate. But what you have made here is not the 22 grendel. It is the 220 russian so don't pretend you invented it. That doesn't take away from its effectiveness though.
Now that is an interesting cartridge! I just watched johnnys reloading do a 6 arc workup with lever evolution where he got excellent results. 2929, .51, 4.8 90 grain bullet. Might give good results on the .22 grendel ua-cam.com/video/UKHhUt_iZpY/v-deo.html
@@EagleEyeShooting I've seen all of these options, they have few pros and many cons. The cmmg mutant will allow the larger caseheads to function, but the cons still outway the pros, and if you go to an ar308 platform you can have actual powerful cartridges.
Just because the cartridge is similar DOES NOT mean its the same. The 22 PPC is designed around the lighter 55gr projectiles thus twist rates of 1:12 or 1:14 and CANNOT be loaded with heavy grain bullets like the .224 Grendel to fit mag length AR15. Please do your research before you post such arrogant comments
@@EagleEyeShooting oh my bad... what about in a bolt action.. 22 grendel VS 22br ?? Im looking at all options in a Ultimate Badass 22 cal wit little kick.. any recommendations?
I would love to see this cartridge expand and be brought mainstream. Seems like it has great potential to do many things well. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Now interests me. I’ve been looking for ways to get more speed from my military projectiles. 22-250 doesn’t have the barrel twist rate needed. 22 creedmoor would be ideal but this may be more obtainable for me to construct.
Everyttime I watch 1 of your videos eagle eye, I end up wanting to spend money 🤦♂️🤣
A lot of 💰💰💰💰💰
Nice video. I’ve been running my 22 Grendel for a couple years now. Been running H4350 with 75 grain ELDM’s. And hunting with 64 grain SGK’s with LeveR. The SD’s get tighter on the H4350 as you get the case to full capacity. Not compressed, but full. Getting 8 with mine and running 3027 with the 75’s.
Great work developing this round Kenny . I’m sure varmint shooters across the country will take notice of this cartridge and the rifle that you built for it . The phone will be going ballistic at DP Gunworks soon 😀.
Hey Kenny.....Your neighbor Dave here...checking out your latest video. Thanks again for helping me dial in my 6.5 Creedmoor the other day!
Hey Dave! Anytime man. You gotta try some of the bolt guns soon
@@EagleEyeShooting Can't wait! I could get addicted to that long range shooting!
The 22-250 was made in a semiautomatic platform "AR 15" By Olympic arms years ago. The 22-250 runs around 3,700 to 4,000 fps. Now change the barrel on the 22-250 to a 1to7 twist and you can shoot the 88 and 90 grain pills out to 1000 yards easily with better bc bullets.
The 22-250 is a cheaper and easier to do than this.
Great work as always and its nice to see your son out shooting. My son shoots with me too and it's great passing on the knowledge to him.
Thanks for sharing. I've built a few 22-250 AR10's reliability is hard to get as the 22-250 has a weird pressure curve. For the purposes of this rifle, this cartridge seems easy to load, offers higher capacity and I'm able to push 88gr at 3K. Pretty stellar performance with using less than 30gr or powder
@@EagleEyeShooting 88 grain bullet at 3K is the business. That will turn a coyote inside out! I bet that would make a potent deer round with the 75 grain gold dot going 3150 to 3200.
Pretty slick!! I would not be shocked if hornady brought to life a 22ARC which would be similar to the 22Gren
And butcher the delivery of performance and accuracy just like the 6 ARC. I waiting for Kenny’s production run of barrels for the 6 ARC.
Wouldn't be similar would be exactly the same they use the same case.
@@Threegunmaster i was thinking the same thing
@@TheScottybr the 6arc and 6.5 Grendel have the same parent case. Both cartridges come from the 220 Russian.
The big difference between an ARC case and a Grendel case is the shoulder on the ARC case is moved rewards .030".
@@Threegunmaster that's like saying the 6.5 creedmoor and 260rem use the same case. They are SIMILAR but not the same. 22 Grendel would have more case capacity than a 22arc but not much more.
I like the small caliber rounds. May have to add this to my collection.
Never ever heard of one. Liking those velocity numbers
Really enjoyed the last barrel build, it would be awesome to see more and maybe a few more wildcat barrels being built.
Sweet set up! -like that sticker too ;-)
Very nice, and blistering speed. Excited to see what this thing is capable of with some fire formed brass. Echo
Man, They were cruising..... Looks a lot like fun. Some day I will get something fun to shoot like that.
Love seeing the bullet trace.
First! Been awhile since I caught a video, glad to get the notifications still
Merry Christmas to you and Little Hawk. Very impressive numbers and shooting.
Ludicrous speed GOOOOOO
You are a pioneer.
Cool video! you're correct that advertised velocities are let's say OPTIMISTIC when it comes to factory ammunition. You're on the heels of the 22-250 for sure and with a 22" barrel at that. Cartridge efficiency is often overlooked when a person picks a cartridge for there next rifle. There are diminishing returns when it comes to case capacity. 6mm BR is a classic example of a small case pushing heavy for caliber bullets to almost 243 velocities, and with 10 grains less powder. And as an added bonus, double the barrel life. I will say you have the magneto speed right there backing up your velocity claims, and they are impressive. When I first got my chronograph and saw the REAL velocities of factory ammo it was an eye opener to say the least. You are not saying that the 22 grendel will out perform the 22-250, because a handloader can crank up the 22-250 also with certain powders. But comparing your results with FACTORY loaded 22-250 ammo, you're right there brother. Keep having fun and keep us updated with your project.
Love the 6.5 Grendel and can't imagine a 22 cal Grendel. I'm sure it's fast...
That round is CRUISING!!!
. Looks like a fun rig. I have a Valkyrie that shoots very similar just shreds brass more than I like.
That smoking fast wow impressive round 🎯
That rifle is sweet. Phat ass barrel looks dope
Sweet. I wanted to reload my 6.5 Grendel. No small rifle primers to be found anywhere. I did manage to acquire about 1000 rounds of Hornady before it all disappeared. Saving it for the zombie apocalypse.
Wow! Very impressive!
The powder H380 got its name from being able to push a 55 grain bullet 3800 fps in a 24" 22-250 with 38 grains of powder. This was a well known accuracy load back in the day.
3500 fps with a 55 grain bullet isn't faster than a 22-250. 37.5 grains of Varget will get you in the same speed neighborhood. With that said, 3500 fps is nothing to sneeze at with a 55 grain bullet in an AR15.
Nice Little Hawk!!!!! 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎
That was cool.... Although I know this was already costly to run this build, and to do the testing and the R&D of this... I am now curious to see what the twist-rates of a few barrels would do, to show if things get better or worse, over what they are now or dangerous..LOL... When I just poked the math quickly, I can only assume the projectiles are BT's, but the surface area of the flat baked bullets, based on the 3500FPS, as per the chamber pressure, as you clearly noted, you are running a much MUCH heavier barrel, .. YIKES... LOL... I LOVE IT ! ! ! ! Those dudes are cruisin!!!! But all that blow-by onto the brass, I about a week ago, was just reading that a powder load under charged, can cause that, then it was followed up by, an over charge in powder, can also do that blow-by game... and the book did say, only experienced shooters/loaders should ever content with this... What are the odds that I am getting to witness this strange property of over pressure charged powder, after banging my head on the wall trying to understand how that can happen.. The Under charged powder, makes 100% sense to me, as the brass isn't being fire-formed outwards to seal against the chamber walls, ... The book also said that carbon blow-by on the neck is a typical and common thing, but down the rest of the brass shell, to use caution, unless you are a skilled loader, (Which I am not) so, I think you for show casing this rare situation of this is really cool. I learned allot on this one. I think the book called this process, blow-by-creepage, when it bleeds down the full length of the brass.. The book was saying there is a delicate balance of being normalized on lug stress pressures, and being too much for the lugs to contain. But their testing in this process claims that in that millionth of a second, the brass is actually not touching anything and is neutrally balanced, as it isn't touching the bolt face, the chamber walls, the neck & shoulder walls, nothing,, it is just chillin floating in the middle of gases, LOL. .My mind is like WHAT? Such an amazing process. I have not finished reading the section of this, as I needed time to allow this to download into my slow bean called a brain, but I shall finish the reading now. As I have no clue of the pro's & con''s of this rare oddity that you have made happen by design.. Where I had to take a break from the reading, was this was about bolt actions.. You are doing this in a gas gun...LOL. .As I understand, the projectile would have already left the barrel, by the time the carbon has "creeped" on down the length of the brass.. I don't know factually, just guessing.. I look forwards to learning more about this setup you built with this 22 Grendel.
Also, you are running the A-tips.. If you ran the V-max 55gr projectiles, at 3500 fps, what would happen to the plastic tips? would they melt? even though today's plastic have amazing thermal resistance, just wondering...
The a tips were running at 2800fps. Older hornady polymer tipped bullets had in the past melted but the new tipped bullets (vmax, eld, sst, etc.) are designed not to melt or deform. The hornady superformance Varmint 22-250 load with 50gr vmax is rated at 4000 fps and has no problems.
@@treydenfrench7009 Roger that... Oddly enough, today, I received in the mail, Hornady's new product catalog... I'll be doing some reading the next few days, thank you.
That is a neat bullet!
Anything on the grendel case is gonna be solid. When my 6.5 barrel goes ill definitely try the 22. I have a bolt 22cm running 95gr smk at 3085 which isnt pushing hard but had a .8gr node with imr4451.
Still a 6mm fan... Change my mind 👊😎🇺🇸
I got some 58gr and light varmint loads for 6 ARC coming up
@@EagleEyeShooting They should make the barrel glow red 😳
That’s what I’m talking about! 👍🏻
Bro that’s super fuckin dope!! I love my Grendel but I never even considered what you did
See Zediker's work with 22PPC... fifteen years ago.
Thank you very good video I learned a lot
That is a screamer .
What is the BC of the 55g pills? Got to be pushing the outter limits of the FMJ???
I believe is a low .124 G7 value. Good out to 750 then starts dropping fast
👍👍
Excellent way to spend some time with your son!
Good stuff Kenny!
Kenny, could this be your future PRS platform?
Bolt life... for life 😄👍
You’re an awesome father sir
Wow!!!!………awesome.
Thanks
Do you have a video on tuning for case head swiping ? Going to order a jp h2 captured spring with a spring kit.
Awesome to see.
Most 50 grain 22-250 are a lot closer to 4000fps. But 35-36 is smokin out of ar 15 platform. Impressive I been looking for something close to 22-250 in the lighter 15 platform.
Where does a person get his hands on a 22 grendel barrel for an AR-15?
This would be great in a 95 or 98 mauser action with a 22in or 24 in barrel for sure
H4350 is almost impossible to get in my area.
Online purchase would how to source it. Hodgon and Brownells had them in stock this week.
@@EagleEyeShooting
Unless you are buying several pounds the hazmat fee almost doubles the price.
Not favorable times we are living in... if reloading supplies are a necessity, one can justify opening an LLC to write off said supplies if needed
@@EagleEyeShooting
My wife has a business license and we have thought about using it to stock bullets, powder and some archery equipment also. How difficult is that to do?
holy hell that is a fast round. idk why the army didn't just improve the ammo we use.
I want one
🤠🤝
Have you tried 55gr or less all copper bullet on steel with that cartridge? I may go that route instead of a 22-250. You earned a subscribe with this one. Look forward to seeing more videos.
Thanks brother! I actually plan on doing more testing in a video shortly. Ive found a really good load with Everglades V4 bullets pushing 3450 FPS and holding 1/2 inch using H335
I like the results, but I kept staring at the sticker.
Awesome round
Consistent numbers with CFE223 powder is a problem I have dealt with Kenny. I will say with 308 Win. a hot node is where I got best results and have stayed. Definitely not as experienced as you, so you may have a better method besides changing powder. In my Rock River ATH v2 .223, 556 it has proven to be a very dirty powder, but I have 16# so it is what it is.😂🤣
Keep'em coming!
are you dumping powder with that progressive press? that's a hell of a spread. single stage a batch of ammo and see how accurate it can be. cool set though
Ball powder, meters within a tenth. Its the node. Ill revisit this soon. Got a good working load
Hows the barrel life with that round
Ill monitor my throat wear as I continue to throw more rounds down pipe
So close but not a .22-250
Please do explain 😁 I have a Savage in 22-250. Factory loads in 40gr are hitting only 3500 fps outta the 26inch barrel
Don’t get me wrong, that’s impressive velocity out of an AR-15. But a quick search would’ve shown you Nosler has load data on 22-250 that is 3600-3800 FPS with a 55 gr.
What is published and what people actually get (not handloading), folks usually find the manufacturer exaggerating. Not that your wrong. I have handloads for this Savage pushing 53gr pills at 4200.... Again it's just a comparison. Not a pissing match. Though, having this velocity in the hands of a varmint shooter... one would prefer a semi auto over a 26inch bolt gun. Yes I know they make 22-250 AR10's. I've built a few and are not 100% reliable
@@EagleEyeShooting definitely not trying to get into an argument here. Been thinking about doing something similar but 20 cal since I can’t seem to find any decent 204 ruger brass. Split between Grendel/ARC and 6.8 SPC as a parent case.
Wasn't .220 Russian the parent case of 6.5 Grendel?
Thats correct!
I need that sticker also! 🤣
Is this a barrel burner cartridge?
where did you get that sticker on the optic?
Looking into this after you mentioned it on last week's Livestream with EagleRun23. Curious, I heard it described as 6 ARC on the call, is this the same thing? Also, where do I get a barrel?
I have seen blackened cases like that on 5.6 X 57 cases when I was stationed in Germany. It was caused by a very thick case neck not expanding to seal the gas The Germans run a very thick case neck so the chamber can accommodate a 22 LR adapter. If they loaded the 5.6 X 57 hot the problem went away. Doesn't seem like that is you're problem though.
Shooting suppressed
I have an ar-15 chambered in a 6.5 grendel. Will it take this ammo?
During his shooting he started to follow through on the trigger did you point it out to him or did he catch himself
We use our footage to catch any flaws in our shooting. The follow through method is something I personally switch back and forth on due to using a Triggertech 2 stage triggers set at 1#. Double taps are a thing to avoid
Impressive
How would this compare to a 224 valkyrie if loaded with a 55 grain
Like all of these cartridges......they are a compromise.
What is expected bolt life?
Same as any AR15 cartridge in a grendel bolt pushing 55K psi.
@@EagleEyeShooting so, poor?
No. I run a 6 ARC gaser at 60K with over 1,500 rounds. No bolt damage. I would expect the same in this cartridge
@@EagleEyeShooting ok. It's a known problem, so watch for it.
Seems awesome! But if there's going to be feeding issues it's not for me...
Duramag 28 rounder. No feeding issues
@@EagleEyeShooting In many ways this is exactly what I'm looking for in a "field gun" I want sizzler flat shooting for head shots at game out to 250-300 (using lighter weight, flat base bullets), and at least some potential for long range with high BC bullets as a "sniping" feature. This fits that bill perfectly! Very sweet! Thanks for the videos and experiments.
That's awesome.
Imagine this in the M4 instead of the 5.56.
with those kind of velocities whats barrel life expected to be?
Velocities is not what depletes barrel life, its heat. Fortunately this cartridge even at those speeds do not generate much heat with only 30grs of powder. As compared to a 243 win
What is the difference between the 22 Grendel and a 224 Valkyrie?
More umph, easier to make / convert brass. Doesn't chew up the brass and seems to have lots of nodes
What kind of scope are you using?
Element Titan
4350 works in 224 Valerie also
Just curious what type of case lube are you using and have you ever had it contaminate your powder?? I've never sized brass on my Dillon 550C when loading ammo because I've always worried the case lube would contaminate my powder. So I size on a single stage, wet tumble the lube off, and dry then in the oven.
I like where can I get 1
I think fire forming is a waste of resources. Nice video.
You guys wear ear pro?
Hearing safe where we shoot suppressed. And yes I verified
I wonder if you can get that 90gr up to 3k!?
Very very close.
Damn bro that's close to being supersonic out to 1500yrds!
What’s your fire form load ?
How can I get in touch with you about a 22 Grendel barrel?
I'm currently just testing it to see if i need to make any chamber changes. Reliability is priority followed by accuracy. More videos soon. Ill announce if this becomes available for sale. DPGUNWORKS.COM
@@EagleEyeShooting So you work at DPGUNWORKS or own this co.pany? I'm very interested in thiis round. I currently run a 6.5 Grendel so thinking I could use the same bolt carrier group using this round. Your thoughts. Thanks
I am the rifle manufacturer and part owner of the company
can you build a barrel
Yes DPGUNWORKS.COM
How do you keep from destroying the brass at those speeds ?
Not sure. Using the same 25 cases
@@EagleEyeShooting is ejection not rough on the brass ?
No, as shown in the video. Gas port is tuned
Soooo the Russians invented the 7.62x39. Then they took that to make the 220 russian for the Olympics which is just the x39 necked down to 22 with a sharper shoulder. Then the Americans took the 220 Russian to make the 6.5 grendel. Then you took the grendel to make the 220 russian. Do you see the confusion I have here?
Im confused why even give a hoot who invented what. Someone had the idea of using a 220 Russian case with a 22 cal projectile and it turned out to be an outstanding performer.
@Eagle Eye Shooting the 220 Russian is essentially what you made here is what I'm saying. Yes it is an incredible round. And for decades it was considered the most inherently accurate. But what you have made here is not the 22 grendel. It is the 220 russian so don't pretend you invented it. That doesn't take away from its effectiveness though.
What is the twist on that barrel?
1:7 twist
Where can I find a barrel?
Currently testing it. Soon, DPGUNWORKS.COM
That is impressive for the cartridge, but not faster than a 22-250
Now that is an interesting cartridge! I just watched johnnys reloading do a 6 arc workup with lever evolution where he got excellent results. 2929, .51, 4.8 90 grain bullet. Might give good results on the .22 grendel
ua-cam.com/video/UKHhUt_iZpY/v-deo.html
Yeeowza!
Looks to me Hornady have stolen another persons hard work and called it their own again but called it 22ARC
No way
Um....no? .22-250 will push 55 to close to 4k.
Would argue the point that factory ammo does not push 4k. Imagine if this cartridge was in a bolt gun
@@EagleEyeShooting in a bolt gun, you could have a .22-250. This cartridge exists to fit in ar15. No other reason.
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@@EagleEyeShooting I've seen all of these options, they have few pros and many cons. The cmmg mutant will allow the larger caseheads to function, but the cons still outway the pros, and if you go to an ar308 platform you can have actual powerful cartridges.
@@EagleEyeShooting sure enough.
So it's a 22PPC ..finally we come back to where we started, pointless!
Just because the cartridge is similar DOES NOT mean its the same. The 22 PPC is designed around the lighter 55gr projectiles thus twist rates of 1:12 or 1:14 and CANNOT be loaded with heavy grain bullets like the .224 Grendel to fit mag length AR15. Please do your research before you post such arrogant comments
Compared to 22br
22BR cannot reliably run in an AR15
@@EagleEyeShooting oh my bad... what about in a bolt action.. 22 grendel VS 22br ?? Im looking at all options in a Ultimate Badass 22 cal wit little kick.. any recommendations?
Honestly its hard to beat the 22 Creedmoor for the ultimate 22 laser. Comercial brass and easy to load for. Itll push 90 A tips over 3500 FPS
@@EagleEyeShooting im looking for a lesser powder charged case caliber... Any other options?..
6mm Arch is better
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