We found a way to reduce lag inside vanguard. I don't know if you tested it, but directly from the vanguard enter screen, there's a small gear to the right of the info button.. by changing the view size to "Focused" the lag almost disappeared.
Another problem with mending orb is that if anyone has summons like from echoing shade, the orb might wander off to the summon who is fighting away from the players :/
The Healing Charm with Mending Orb should go in the Class C field. Although it heals decent, it will follow anyone who has taken damage. This means it will heal my pet over me if my pet happens to have less HP then I do. So its very poor in teams with pets.
Using blight orb for 2 weeks, got myself a sweet lvl14, it is much much better than crit or healing, if your teammates know to use CoL or Bone Armor dmg immunity, there is no need for shield charms, as we had a chance to test all charms, this is the setup we are running with, 2 blight orbs, 1 healing, 1 crit, back then (without blight orb, we were using 2 crit and 1 prim) we had barely enough time to kill boss, but now we kill it like 25 30 sec before timer ends. Nice tier list.
The crit one is good on paper but with people having so much crit already with RC, ML, and crit chance being prioritized on gear pieces it doesn’t offer much of an increase in that regard. However for players that aren’t built that way will get a much larger benefit from it. Might charms do however have increased damage per nearby party member and if you have multiple of those rolls it can have a large impact(albeit only for yourself). The defense ones gives you evasion rating, Bane can roll further increases to the damage enemies affected by it take, and healing can increase Healing you receive. So lots to consider but the bane orb is a clear best but as others have said your party will want some kind of mix most likely(unless the orbs stack maybe 😮)
If you go past crit chance cap I believe it translates to additional crit damage. That’s how it read with banner on sader so imagine that is still true so yes the might charm is bonkers!
Aegis is S teir with out a doubt. Basically an undying rage for entire party. Time and time again is a life saver keeping entire team alive for boss which is vital because overall damage needed
Thanks. Very good as usual. Question: Is healing field the same as healing dome (a bell like shape)? Also, what is your take on corruption? I sometimes get insta-kill and sometimes takes no damage (same party member).
Yes, that's the one. The corruption mechanic is a bit confusing and many players have reported the damage being inconsistent. I'm still trying to fully understand it but it seems it might be bugged
What attributes do you prioritize? If you have 3 healing field charms. Not all of them have the same attributes. Some have cd reduction, some have duration extension, and some have enhanced healing.
I'm a sucker for CD reduction but we have to remember that once fully upgraded each roll will provide 12% so it might not be useful after a certain point. I would say using a charm with an effect you like is most important thing
@@Mao_DI at low levels the CD reduction is not noticeable. I have 1 charm with 3 cd reduction and 1 charm with 1 cd reduction. The CD is still 18 seconds. Maybe at higher levels it would be noticeable.
@@bjohnston8678 yes, if you have chance take a look at my resources sheet (link in description). I posted the stats you can expect from charms at every rank. Secondary attributes won't change as you rank up but the % of all of them goes up from 3% to 6%, 9% and 12%. Eventually if you get it to rank 20 all attributes should be 12%
By the way you are able to make the targeting areas easier, by holding down the skill and move it around. This makes it easy to aim for the mending orb, Blight orb, & warp strike. Love your vids and looking forward to future content ^.^
I mentioned this in my last vanguard video. I think it can still be useful to look at which charms are most impactful overall and compare them within the same category which is what I tried to do here. For example if your group needs healing then it may be a better choice to go for Healing Field over Mending Orb
Huge disagree, Only 2 charms are S tier, its Healing Field and Aegis. Others are waste, makes party less tanky and most definitely is dead party, even in 3rd. Only cleared 3rd this week with 2 Aegis and 2 Healing Fields, all Bane and Might charm guys should be kicked out momentally, because its wipe, you already know it.
Surviving isn’t the problem on 4. Killing the boss within the time limit is. 6p vithu is plenty of healing and you can immunity/savior/survival paragon tree the corruption.
@lashaxoperia5917 paragon save, savior, class save, gem save, skills for self heal, urges set etc.....if surviving is an issue then deal with that 1st, the true best charms are bane (blight) and might (crit) healing and def are useful for face tanking but will not clear 4 as consistently as bane and might especially if your team is lower in dmg and doesn't have 30k plus dmg.....I've cleared many times with highest dmg teammate only having 24k dmg...whales scale the boss anyway.
@@anemoneorka you never run with pugs then. I am the one stays alive, but in this stupid mode, if some1 dies then its over. Cant wait for october 8 to start play immortal casually and focus on Diablo 4 new expansion. I hate this group plays, diablo should be a solo game
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We found a way to reduce lag inside vanguard. I don't know if you tested it, but directly from the vanguard enter screen, there's a small gear to the right of the info button.. by changing the view size to "Focused" the lag almost disappeared.
Thanks for this! I saw this feature when I made my first video but completely for got to test it! Will try it out on tomorrow's reset
This video has been very helpful! My party and I have been running Blight + Valor's call + Healing Field and the boss melts in seconds! Thank you!
Awesome! 🎉 Glad to hear!
Another problem with mending orb is that if anyone has summons like from echoing shade, the orb might wander off to the summon who is fighting away from the players :/
Good point! If you need heal it seems like healing field is just better in every way!
@@Mao_DI100%. I’ve crushed my Rank 13 mending orb to Rank up my healing field. The orb is way to sporadic… you have to chase it down…
People also miss that valors call also raises crit of summons
The Healing Charm with Mending Orb should go in the Class C field. Although it heals decent, it will follow anyone who has taken damage. This means it will heal my pet over me if my pet happens to have less HP then I do. So its very poor in teams with pets.
Using blight orb for 2 weeks, got myself a sweet lvl14, it is much much better than crit or healing, if your teammates know to use CoL or Bone Armor dmg immunity, there is no need for shield charms, as we had a chance to test all charms, this is the setup we are running with, 2 blight orbs, 1 healing, 1 crit, back then (without blight orb, we were using 2 crit and 1 prim) we had barely enough time to kill boss, but now we kill it like 25 30 sec before timer ends. Nice tier list.
lol no bane sucks because its a small globe that only covers a small area. stop coping
Running blight orb and it smackssss
yeaaaaah boiiii!
Blight bane sounded sound good on mobs if you kill them fast it stops working.
The crit one is good on paper but with people having so much crit already with RC, ML, and crit chance being prioritized on gear pieces it doesn’t offer much of an increase in that regard. However for players that aren’t built that way will get a much larger benefit from it. Might charms do however have increased damage per nearby party member and if you have multiple of those rolls it can have a large impact(albeit only for yourself). The defense ones gives you evasion rating, Bane can roll further increases to the damage enemies affected by it take, and healing can increase Healing you receive. So lots to consider but the bane orb is a clear best but as others have said your party will want some kind of mix most likely(unless the orbs stack maybe 😮)
If you go past crit chance cap I believe it translates to additional crit damage. That’s how it read with banner on sader so imagine that is still true so yes the might charm is bonkers!
Thanks for the video, very helpful , really thought warpstrike was an s tier, boy was I wrong lol
Running a rank 15 Blight Orb and I cant see me ever using anything else ❤
@hixxaz5534 got 3 14 banes on 5 toons lol bane all day
Aegis is S teir with out a doubt. Basically an undying rage for entire party. Time and time again is a life saver keeping entire team alive for boss which is vital because overall damage needed
Yes, it's really good!
Lag is very problem to me on V4
Great vid bro blight orb is really op
@@UtkuAytekin35 Thank you so much for watching and becoming a Member! 😊
@@Mao_DI your builds helped me a lot keep up the great content brother
Fire banner for the win!
Keep up the good content and information!! Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Thanks. Very good as usual. Question: Is healing field the same as healing dome (a bell like shape)? Also, what is your take on corruption? I sometimes get insta-kill and sometimes takes no damage (same party member).
Yes, that's the one. The corruption mechanic is a bit confusing and many players have reported the damage being inconsistent. I'm still trying to fully understand it but it seems it might be bugged
Thanks brother for this list i am waiting for this
Welcome 👍
might > bane easily because of the max dmg potential from sendary attributes and the versatility compared to banes small aoe size
Thanks god my valor charm is S tier 😂 ty mao amazing vid as always ❤
I approve this list
What attributes do you prioritize? If you have 3 healing field charms. Not all of them have the same attributes. Some have cd reduction, some have duration extension, and some have enhanced healing.
I'm a sucker for CD reduction but we have to remember that once fully upgraded each roll will provide 12% so it might not be useful after a certain point. I would say using a charm with an effect you like is most important thing
@@Mao_DI at low levels the CD reduction is not noticeable. I have 1 charm with 3 cd reduction and 1 charm with 1 cd reduction. The CD is still 18 seconds. Maybe at higher levels it would be noticeable.
@@bjohnston8678 yes, if you have chance take a look at my resources sheet (link in description). I posted the stats you can expect from charms at every rank. Secondary attributes won't change as you rank up but the % of all of them goes up from 3% to 6%, 9% and 12%. Eventually if you get it to rank 20 all attributes should be 12%
@@Mao_DI thanks for the great content. I will check your resource sheet.
Blight orb does not affect boss, this is A tier not S tier
By the way you are able to make the targeting areas easier, by holding down the skill and move it around. This makes it easy to aim for the mending orb, Blight orb, & warp strike. Love your vids and looking forward to future content ^.^
Mean my healing is rank 14. Need like 2 in 4 group then 2 charms for damage
we need a charm to reduce lag
100% this! 😂😂
Can we get new barb dps builds pls
How do you rank up your charms?
You salvage other low level charms and use the shards you get to upgrade. I showed this process in the last section of this video
i have lvl16 valor
How do u have so many? Ive onlt been clearing 4s since day one on 5 toons and max i have 4 on one toon.....
Haven't been salvaging any of them 😅
Even still 15 clears since start that's alot....
It makes no sense to make a tier list when everyone should be using a diff gem anyways
I mentioned this in my last vanguard video. I think it can still be useful to look at which charms are most impactful overall and compare them within the same category which is what I tried to do here. For example if your group needs healing then it may be a better choice to go for Healing Field over Mending Orb
the only importan charm is aegis ang valors call only.
martyr B tier?? it's Z tier, complete trash even for barb. Valor is not S tier, it's B+.
Vanguard is wrong name- true name is laggs fest 😂
Ps. So I have aegis 14 lvl and 12 lvl healing orb xD A and B and clearing lvl4 😅
Huge disagree, Only 2 charms are S tier, its Healing Field and Aegis. Others are waste, makes party less tanky and most definitely is dead party, even in 3rd. Only cleared 3rd this week with 2 Aegis and 2 Healing Fields, all Bane and Might charm guys should be kicked out momentally, because its wipe, you already know it.
Thats why you can only clear 3, even on my squishy toons i only clear 4s.....bane is one of if not the best.....
Surviving isn’t the problem on 4. Killing the boss within the time limit is. 6p vithu is plenty of healing and you can immunity/savior/survival paragon tree the corruption.
6pce vithu is the best heal for Van. I use a rank 15 Bane Blight Orb so we get the lvl4 boss down in time.
@lashaxoperia5917 paragon save, savior, class save, gem save, skills for self heal, urges set etc.....if surviving is an issue then deal with that 1st, the true best charms are bane (blight) and might (crit) healing and def are useful for face tanking but will not clear 4 as consistently as bane and might especially if your team is lower in dmg and doesn't have 30k plus dmg.....I've cleared many times with highest dmg teammate only having 24k dmg...whales scale the boss anyway.
@@anemoneorka you never run with pugs then. I am the one stays alive, but in this stupid mode, if some1 dies then its over. Cant wait for october 8 to start play immortal casually and focus on Diablo 4 new expansion. I hate this group plays, diablo should be a solo game