Charms Tier List: ua-cam.com/video/B8KP3zxnbSQ/v-deo.html Rank 14 Charm confirmed also possible to drop from level 4 completion if you're lucky. I have updated my resources sheet to reflect this new information. This makes the numbers in this video slightly off. The time taken to grind up to a Rank 20 charm is now cut from ~7.7 weeks to ~6.2 weeks EDIT: Updated to Rank 14 charm. It might be the case that ranks dropped increase over time as the season progresses. Will keep you guys updated as I learn more. Thanks to everyone for their comments 😄
Looks like the Martyr is one of the best if you're a tank with lifesteal (Barb). You can keep your whole team alive and heal yourself back up easy (chains heal OH or HoA with Wrath OH lifesteal essence).
@@hixxaz5534 yes that could be a use case if your group is really struggling on survivability. Personally I didn't like it at all from my testing. From what it seems like this content gets easier as you upgrade your charms' ranks. Usually when this happens survivability is no longer the issue and the meta shifts to more damage based setups
I've got a 14 level charm with might (broadside) and it is pretty good. For healing what we are also doing is going with 6 pieces of vithus for the life steal, it restore your life crazy fast
Mao with a banger as always. Big fan! Thank you for crunching the numbers for us - really good info! Learned a few things. I didn't had time to try lvl4 yet, but now I know that I will have a hard time with 900 reso
@@Mao_DI no, thank you bro! I learned a lot from you xD I’m sure I watched all your past 3/4 months videos since I started to playing the game 🤣 specially the pre farming/xp was very useful when I was starting out!
So to just get a high rank charm ASAP, every time a charm drops 1 level lower than your current charm (one you initially upgraded), Salvage your current charm and you will be able to rank the new drop charm up 2 lvls, so you gain a whole charm rank this way. Once you have a high charm, then you can start holding on to some and ranking them. I actually ran Martyr as a Barb with Undying Rage on just to see how it would go. It did actually save people. But yeah not one for normal use. The 100% increased damage taken Bane Charm is really good, the only good Bane.
You can save a specific build in armory for vanguard that has your vanguard charm and you never have to worry about it, it’s what I did bc my build is specific to vanguard anyway
@@Mao_DI I also like running 6 vithu, col sader. Was able to do lvl4 w/ r7 charm and good group. Sader Sader Barb Barb - took a few tries to get hang of it, but we cleared it.
First thing I wanna address is about terror essence is not guaranteed a 3/3 or 3/4 . This week I dropped a 3/2 with leap and cleave attributes and I dropped even before similar 3/2 . So it's not guarantee Second it's about Marty charm( yes I'm a barb) and I can tank for days but even a BK can do the same without a problem . I believe even crusader with a build well put together . Third that healing charm orb in my opinion is bad . Hear me out :has such a small radius of effect moves like a headless chicken (if u have 2guys low HP moves left right left right without doing the job) it's barely visible in a crowded mob density . But good video overall keep the it going .
For terror essence point thats strange. I'm talking about item from codex task (it's not a drop, just codex claim after 10/10) For Martyr yes, 100% agree with you it can be have it's uses for a full tank setup. After a while though surviveability won't be as much of a problem imo and damage will be the main focus with more damage-oriented charms For your last point you're also 100% right. I recommended the healing field with the big AoE over the Mending orb. Really appreciate you watching the full video and sharing your thoughts. Thanks! 🤩
@@redragon911PR depends on group composition. As all round best healing field is great. If you have too many healers in the group then it's not so good better go for something like might or bane charms
Can you share anything on how that corruption overflow mechanic works? Sometimes it barely hurts at all and sometimes it's practically a 1shot. If anything, it seems to 1shot more often when I'm away from the group rather than stacked, but the information panel says that corruption overflow hurts teammates, ie you should spread out. I feel like I take those mega hits 2-3x more often than my teammates (maybe just being a squishier DH?), so I want to learn if there's something I can do to avoid them and quit risking an early death. I've been wearing shield gear to mitigate them, but that feels silly and cuts into my boss dps significantly.
Great question! I'm still trying to fully understand this mechanic. To be completely honest I have kind of lost interest in this mode as Blizzard has still not fixed the issue of it reseting rewards (at least on my server). I have heard that some groups really struggle with the corruption mechanic. I have definitely felt the effects of it in my runs but maybe not as much as others as I use tons of shields and outheal it. I always stand super close to the group in all my runs and spam my heal aoe. The mode is still fresh and I do expect the bugs/lag to get fixed. It's just a matter of when. I know this reply isn't super useful so I'll definitely update my reply as we learn more
@@Mao_DI I can't even tell if it's everyone at once or like 1 random person every x seconds. I had 1 v3 run lvl5 charm where on running to pillar 2 I took an 80% explosion. I sat in 2 heal charm bubbles, got back to 60% and then exploded again into savior cheatdeath. I healed back to 40% and then exploded for 3rd time killing me early pillar 3. I didn't even get hit by mobs, it was just 3 chain corruptions within a minute. And yes, that reset bug seriously pissed me off. Due to said issues and it being late at night I settled for knocking out 5v2s expecting to do v3/v4 the next morning. Instead it didn't reset so I'm stuck on a lvl5 charm instead of a lvl10+. I cleared a v3, got no charm, so I can't move on to v4 and I'm missing this whole week worth of progress towards a 20.
Another mechanic comment is, yes the charm descriptions scale to your gear, but I'm doubtful it actually matters. Boss HP is for sure normalized, I was on a run where I saw the boss with 2.1bil, 2 said 1.6bil, 4th saw 1.5bil. My assumption is boss hp and damage are probably normalized to your stats like defense and elder rifts. Like those modes better gems still helps you do better as you get all those extra sources of % damage and defense that are not accounted for by normalization, but you probably won't need to be a whale to run v4.
Dang, ok, I was rather wrong on this. Mobs are for sure scaled, but not near far enough to make res irrelevant. I ran some v4 with a whale and 2x my stats outside of vanguard mode and same charm level. He was probably doing 3x my damage and only saw the boss with 1.5x the HP I saw. End result is he can solo a v4 boss while I'm needing a competent 4p team to kill it. Low res will 100% be able to do the v4 mode, they'll just need a much higher charm level.
@@Mao_DI it’s unfortunate because it’s really fun pushing challenging content - wish they went to lvl 10 or whatever so you are always trying to push higher difficulty until you get your 20 charm
Rank 12 crit one is completely useless since crit can easily be maxed with gems and runes. Everyone knows heals and defense is the only issue in vanguard.
Guide on lv 3 clear and lv 4 clear with random party. Manage to clear lv3 with ramdom but not all the run. Most lv3 run with random fail as party member die.
I always like to ask if Warband or Clan player are free before trying with randoms. It can make a big difference. Even if their build has a mistake they are more willing to listen to advice and also have better chemistry/teamwork
@@Mao_DI To be honest, I'm 39.4kcr inf2 solo warband😅 since start playing. No warband member because want to be free from schedule so so far not joining established warband or recruit my warband member yet😅.
@@Gatherey Thank you! I will update my sheet. Will also keep an eye on this. I might have been wrong in my assumption of there being a 'maximum drop'. It might be something that increases every week as the season progresses. Let's see
Yes, for charm reward having 5 is ok. You have more than enough time to make a single rank 20 charm but for items with boss affix as reward 5 per reset feels a little low. I guess they want those items to be pretty rare even as 2/2 exceptionals
So more magic affixes on legendary items, bloating the loot pool even more. Great. They need to make set have set essences so we can just use our best piece for the set slot overall and change the bonus at will. Have wisps be for adding a socket or rerolling a ring socket color so wisps aren’t pointless anymore. Do something to make set items more bearable and stop adding magic affixes to legendary items ONLY so it makes farming them tedious and pointless since we will out level them in weeks
Yes, they need to fix this asap! I think I mentioned it 3 times in this video. Fix really needs to be done before Monday reset otherwise I hope they give us rewards at least 5 charms, 5 items as compensation
Just check a charm I used for at least 20 runs. Didn't notice the value of it going up. Seems to be linked to the rank of the charm as seen in my resources sheet
@@Mao_DI weird I salvaged charms for 60+ materials. I wonder if that was a bug or because I upgraded it once. Will check again what my current charm is doing.
I haven't tried Erreban since the patch went live. A bit strange that the entrace screen for it doesn't mention any charms rewards available to drop there. Will give it a try later. Unfortunately stranger, weirder and buggier things have happened in DI so it wouldn't surprise me😒
For each reset you only get 5. The first time you also get 1 free one from Rayek NPC so 6 in total. You might have salvaged one by accident or if you class change/use armory 1 might have gone to your stash
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Charms Tier List: ua-cam.com/video/B8KP3zxnbSQ/v-deo.html
Rank 14 Charm confirmed also possible to drop from level 4 completion if you're lucky. I have updated my resources sheet to reflect this new information. This makes the numbers in this video slightly off. The time taken to grind up to a Rank 20 charm is now cut from ~7.7 weeks to ~6.2 weeks
EDIT: Updated to Rank 14 charm. It might be the case that ranks dropped increase over time as the season progresses. Will keep you guys updated as I learn more. Thanks to everyone for their comments 😄
My warband mate got lv 14 charm today🎉
@@jakejang5754 Dropped directly? Or upgraded?
@@Mao_DIdropped directly and he got it upgraded to 15 now :)
Looks like the Martyr is one of the best if you're a tank with lifesteal (Barb). You can keep your whole team alive and heal yourself back up easy (chains heal OH or HoA with Wrath OH lifesteal essence).
@@hixxaz5534 yes that could be a use case if your group is really struggling on survivability. Personally I didn't like it at all from my testing. From what it seems like this content gets easier as you upgrade your charms' ranks. Usually when this happens survivability is no longer the issue and the meta shifts to more damage based setups
I've got a 14 level charm with might (broadside) and it is pretty good. For healing what we are also doing is going with 6 pieces of vithus for the life steal, it restore your life crazy fast
Mao with a banger as always. Big fan! Thank you for crunching the numbers for us - really good info! Learned a few things. I didn't had time to try lvl4 yet, but now I know that I will have a hard time with 900 reso
Thank you! 🤩
@@Mao_DI no, thank you bro! I learned a lot from you xD I’m sure I watched all your past 3/4 months videos since I started to playing the game 🤣 specially the pre farming/xp was very useful when I was starting out!
@@Mao_DI just noticed… grats on the 5K subs! That’s HUGE!
Hands down the best Diablo immortal channel to date. You made this so much easier to wrap my head around. Subscribed.
Thank you and weclome! ❤️
So to just get a high rank charm ASAP, every time a charm drops 1 level lower than your current charm (one you initially upgraded), Salvage your current charm and you will be able to rank the new drop charm up 2 lvls, so you gain a whole charm rank this way.
Once you have a high charm, then you can start holding on to some and ranking them.
I actually ran Martyr as a Barb with Undying Rage on just to see how it would go. It did actually save people.
But yeah not one for normal use.
The 100% increased damage taken Bane Charm is really good, the only good Bane.
@@glowyrm Thanks. Yeah I did a quick charm tier list here: ua-cam.com/video/B8KP3zxnbSQ/v-deo.html
@@Mao_DI cool ty! You give out great information.
Great video and great list of suggestions for the devs. They would gain to run a PTR even behind closed doors with some of you helping.
I'd be curious about your Vanguard build. Because wind edge is teleporting all over the place and it makes it more difficult
You can save a specific build in armory for vanguard that has your vanguard charm and you never have to worry about it, it’s what I did bc my build is specific to vanguard anyway
Until we have an alternative this is a great tip. Thanks!
@@Mao_DI I also like running 6 vithu, col sader. Was able to do lvl4 w/ r7 charm and good group. Sader Sader Barb Barb - took a few tries to get hang of it, but we cleared it.
Plus survivor paragon
I'm barb + 2 crus+wiz easy win lvl 4
Seems Lego gems plus magic that raise dmg by % would be extremely beneficial compounding with the % dmg from the charms
First thing I wanna address is about terror essence is not guaranteed a 3/3 or 3/4 . This week I dropped a 3/2 with leap and cleave attributes and I dropped even before similar 3/2 . So it's not guarantee
Second it's about Marty charm( yes I'm a barb) and I can tank for days but even a BK can do the same without a problem . I believe even crusader with a build well put together .
Third that healing charm orb in my opinion is bad . Hear me out :has such a small radius of effect moves like a headless chicken (if u have 2guys low HP moves left right left right without doing the job) it's barely visible in a crowded mob density .
But good video overall keep the it going .
For terror essence point thats strange. I'm talking about item from codex task (it's not a drop, just codex claim after 10/10)
For Martyr yes, 100% agree with you it can be have it's uses for a full tank setup. After a while though surviveability won't be as much of a problem imo and damage will be the main focus with more damage-oriented charms
For your last point you're also 100% right. I recommended the healing field with the big AoE over the Mending orb.
Really appreciate you watching the full video and sharing your thoughts. Thanks! 🤩
Which charm do you think is best?
@@redragon911PR depends on group composition. As all round best healing field is great. If you have too many healers in the group then it's not so good better go for something like might or bane charms
I dropped a bane rank 12 which was lucky, primary attribute is 980% after upgrading a bit from useless ones
@@pheonixdark2003 Great! You got good base to upgrade to 20
Can you share anything on how that corruption overflow mechanic works? Sometimes it barely hurts at all and sometimes it's practically a 1shot. If anything, it seems to 1shot more often when I'm away from the group rather than stacked, but the information panel says that corruption overflow hurts teammates, ie you should spread out. I feel like I take those mega hits 2-3x more often than my teammates (maybe just being a squishier DH?), so I want to learn if there's something I can do to avoid them and quit risking an early death. I've been wearing shield gear to mitigate them, but that feels silly and cuts into my boss dps significantly.
Great question! I'm still trying to fully understand this mechanic. To be completely honest I have kind of lost interest in this mode as Blizzard has still not fixed the issue of it reseting rewards (at least on my server). I have heard that some groups really struggle with the corruption mechanic. I have definitely felt the effects of it in my runs but maybe not as much as others as I use tons of shields and outheal it. I always stand super close to the group in all my runs and spam my heal aoe. The mode is still fresh and I do expect the bugs/lag to get fixed. It's just a matter of when. I know this reply isn't super useful so I'll definitely update my reply as we learn more
@@Mao_DI I can't even tell if it's everyone at once or like 1 random person every x seconds. I had 1 v3 run lvl5 charm where on running to pillar 2 I took an 80% explosion. I sat in 2 heal charm bubbles, got back to 60% and then exploded again into savior cheatdeath. I healed back to 40% and then exploded for 3rd time killing me early pillar 3. I didn't even get hit by mobs, it was just 3 chain corruptions within a minute.
And yes, that reset bug seriously pissed me off. Due to said issues and it being late at night I settled for knocking out 5v2s expecting to do v3/v4 the next morning. Instead it didn't reset so I'm stuck on a lvl5 charm instead of a lvl10+. I cleared a v3, got no charm, so I can't move on to v4 and I'm missing this whole week worth of progress towards a 20.
Another mechanic comment is, yes the charm descriptions scale to your gear, but I'm doubtful it actually matters. Boss HP is for sure normalized, I was on a run where I saw the boss with 2.1bil, 2 said 1.6bil, 4th saw 1.5bil. My assumption is boss hp and damage are probably normalized to your stats like defense and elder rifts. Like those modes better gems still helps you do better as you get all those extra sources of % damage and defense that are not accounted for by normalization, but you probably won't need to be a whale to run v4.
Dang, ok, I was rather wrong on this. Mobs are for sure scaled, but not near far enough to make res irrelevant. I ran some v4 with a whale and 2x my stats outside of vanguard mode and same charm level. He was probably doing 3x my damage and only saw the boss with 1.5x the HP I saw. End result is he can solo a v4 boss while I'm needing a competent 4p team to kill it.
Low res will 100% be able to do the v4 mode, they'll just need a much higher charm level.
Update - van 4 is pretty easy once you get charm over rank 10. Feels like it will just be another raid like task 2x per week.
Yes, so far predicted in this video 😊
@@Mao_DI it’s unfortunate because it’s really fun pushing challenging content - wish they went to lvl 10 or whatever so you are always trying to push higher difficulty until you get your 20 charm
Please share the Tempest build you used in this video❤
Rank 12 crit one is completely useless since crit can easily be maxed with gems and runes. Everyone knows heals and defense is the only issue in vanguard.
Guide on lv 3 clear and lv 4 clear with random party. Manage to clear lv3 with ramdom but not all the run. Most lv3 run with random fail as party member die.
I always like to ask if Warband or Clan player are free before trying with randoms. It can make a big difference. Even if their build has a mistake they are more willing to listen to advice and also have better chemistry/teamwork
@@Mao_DI
To be honest, I'm 39.4kcr inf2 solo warband😅 since start playing. No warband member because want to be free from schedule so so far not joining established warband or recruit my warband member yet😅.
Can’t wait for the next one.
One guy from my clan dropped lv14 charm on lv4 vanguard while wearing lv6.
@@Gatherey Thank you! I will update my sheet. Will also keep an eye on this. I might have been wrong in my assumption of there being a 'maximum drop'. It might be something that increases every week as the season progresses. Let's see
They need to raise the number of attempts in my opinion to 10 at least
Yes, for charm reward having 5 is ok. You have more than enough time to make a single rank 20 charm but for items with boss affix as reward 5 per reset feels a little low. I guess they want those items to be pretty rare even as 2/2 exceptionals
So more magic affixes on legendary items, bloating the loot pool even more. Great. They need to make set have set essences so we can just use our best piece for the set slot overall and change the bonus at will. Have wisps be for adding a socket or rerolling a ring socket color so wisps aren’t pointless anymore. Do something to make set items more bearable and stop adding magic affixes to legendary items ONLY so it makes farming them tedious and pointless since we will out level them in weeks
Those boss magic affixes only drop from Vanguard mode. So if they are completely useless for your class/build then at least you can avoid them
How do you have rank 10 charms already?
Lv. 4 Runs drops between rank 8-14 directly
Ranking please charm who is best and worst
ua-cam.com/video/B8KP3zxnbSQ/v-deo.html
Mybe i have that hq skill item before, but i salvage it 😅... I just know now there item like that
Can you use this new magic in battle ground?
Yes!
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In the moment vanguard ist buggy, no charms as rewards and the counter is not working, yesterday.
Yes, they need to fix this asap! I think I mentioned it 3 times in this video. Fix really needs to be done before Monday reset otherwise I hope they give us rewards at least 5 charms, 5 items as compensation
Salvage value goes up for charms you used to complete vanguard.
Just check a charm I used for at least 20 runs. Didn't notice the value of it going up. Seems to be linked to the rank of the charm as seen in my resources sheet
@@Mao_DI weird I salvaged charms for 60+ materials. I wonder if that was a bug or because I upgraded it once. Will check again what my current charm is doing.
@@AlexSherm did you salvage more than 1 charm at a time? That will also make mats increase as expected but still follows the rank
@@Mao_DI no just the one charm at a time and it happened more than once. I did it to a couple of charms I used both going up in value past your table.
@@Mao_DI I have a screenshot of my level 13 being able to salvage for 125 shards. Do you have a discord I can shoot you over the screenshot?
A clan member of mine said he got a charm in castle erraben can't confirm tho
I haven't tried Erreban since the patch went live. A bit strange that the entrace screen for it doesn't mention any charms rewards available to drop there. Will give it a try later. Unfortunately stranger, weirder and buggier things have happened in DI so it wouldn't surprise me😒
@@Mao_DI right, well also this was at 3am so I don't know how sleep deprived he was lmao
Waste of time, rewards are joke. I don't remember when I used ultimate las time, but it was a looong time ago.
part two please and i only got 5 charms????
For each reset you only get 5. The first time you also get 1 free one from Rayek NPC so 6 in total. You might have salvaged one by accident or if you class change/use armory 1 might have gone to your stash
Why base the event build off 10k reso ? Unrealistic
I too have the same breath lag😡
Same like how Terror Rift used to be. The lag is very obvious when playing level 4. Let's hope it's fixed soon 🙏
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So p2w event ? Loool