I love this. Reminds me of when I was living in WA in 2001 and racing my BT1 5 speed. Had a volvo 740 intercooler in it, press bent cooler pipes, an extra injector wired in, 3" exhaust, and a simple boost tap at 15psi. I raced and raced and raced that thing trying for a 12. I eventually got there, running a 12.8 @ 108. Was so stoked, because everything I did to it was SUPER budget, I thrashed it and it never missed a beat. 12's are a certainty with 3:45 gears.. lovin this Scotty. Cheers for a great vid, and well done to Lance and everyone at HPR for always being so supportive
What a great video Scotty and Kian! Spewing you didn't get into the 12s - but low 13s on 205 street tires is pretty bloody impressive! Hopefully someone out there has some 3:46s they can throw your way to get the job done! Also - what a ripping bunch Lance and the boys are for the track time and the constant encouragement - Hope you got em a slab! Cheers - Marc
Spewing for you and the elusive 12 Scotty!!!! Great to see Kian made the trip down the road and to have a dragstrip all to yourself that's the best Christmas present right there!!!!🍻👍
Fricken awesome Scotty! Take that wind away & SUPERMANG is right there! Mad Burnouts on those last two runs that's what we wanna see. Love this car it makes me miss my old VN ha ha, was the same colour too. Keen to see what you do with it next cheers!
I gotta say, I do like the stock look of the VN, so if you can at all costs avoid cutting the bonnet. It helps with the stealth appeal. I'm sure you will get that 12, you're not one to sit by and complain when you don't achieve something. Sounds like gearing would help. Also the intake temps with the M90... it sure is a heatpump!
Man I love this super mang series I've watched every episode. Since this series has been uploaded my partner and I bought a VT Calais super6 about 4 months ago for $1500 with rego. We are in the process of getting her up to scratch and we'll be adding an exhaust, charger pully and cold air intake ready for all aussie day in April 2022 at lakeside
I’m loving the Supermang series. I’m really looking forward to seeing how far you can get with the blower and then how much further you can get with a turbo pushing 25psi of boost.
That is awesome. I had the same issue with my old IS350. Changed to 17 inch 235/40 AR1 Nangkangs and took two tenths off the 1/8 mile. The smaller diameter helped. The weather and Covid restrictions beat me as now I know that car would have been up on my PB of 13.27. Never got to run it in the coldest days in winter. I reckon either smaller diameter tyres or 3.36 gears and that 12 will come. My goal next year is a 11 in the ISF. That is a tall order.
@@jrbuch I had the F-Sport intake from the states, RR-Racing tune, PPE headers and a full custom dual exhaust running through ISF rear mufflers. Stock mph over the 1/4 was 101, with the mods I had a best of 105.5. ET stock was 13.6, my PB was 13.27. I run in winter with a good DA would have seen a 13.10 or better.
K frame spacers can help , with my vx I cut the bonnet web/frame to fit the w2a kit. 3.45 gears are perfect for l67s don’t go higher or you will be clicking into 4th accross the line
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this, just a normal shed type build in a standard real street car going laps. Water sprayed into the throttle would cool it down within a minute. When I had a life and raced the xf I'd do exactly this before each run and it made the intake cool to touch. No fancy shit, just a hand pump spray bottle. Love your style, have a great Xmas everyone at street machine 😀
Loving this supermang series! Will definitely hit the 12s with 3.45 diff Can't wait for you guys to go intercooled, would loved to put my vx l67 up against this once you do!!
Scotty you are a legend love the burnouts too. I can't wait for the next video on the supermang keep up the good work merry Christmas Scotty🎅🎅🎄🎄🎄🎄☃️☃️☃️☃️
I wonder what my VU Ute will run. L67 swapped, full stage 2 mace cam kit, 16psi pulley, big W2A intercooler, 4.11 diff and a couple other things making 253rwkw on roller dyno. Might have to take it up to HPR one day soon
Good work Scotty at least you got to make quite a few runs which gave you some info on the gearing side of things you’ll get there mate keep chipping away. Looking like your sporting some new KT footwear aswell .
As a bigger bloke like you Scotty I wonder how many passes that seat will take before it snaps the back rest or cracks the floor mounts! I used to brake them in early Commodores all the time 😂
Good effort Scotty! 🇦🇺 😎👍 It's actually pretty well behaved for stock suspension etc. Shorter diff gears and the drag radials should get you close. Oh and up the rev limiter a touch and a Bag of ice on the intake. 😉 I want to see the trolvo/ supermang head to head challenge now! 👏👏👏
@@STREETMACHINETV 😅😅 Wow, that's a brutal analogy! 🧡🧡🧡 I was thinking a variety of challenges Inc motorkhana, stop/ start, co-vid prohibition border running etc. 😁
How hot did the engine get Scotty. Also well done mate.🚗🚗👌👌👍👍😊😊Told ya, you need a intercooler and also diff gears as well, then she will do mid 12's. :)
@@STREETMACHINETV Yeah true, maybe try a chance on a 2nd hand complete diff? Not the easiest things to find but they are out there. Keep up the good work, guys 🍻
Just go a mace engineering torque lock centre and 3.46 gears brand new the torque lock is just under 700 n new gears are 4 to 500 the 28 spline axles are fine
That was an awesome attempt , great guys at the track. In mho I think you’d be pretty sweet going to a 3.55 ratio for the bigger tyre whilst keeping the rpm low enough for street/highway driving with street tyres and you’ll be in the high 12’s Good luck with what ever you choose
You can hear how much better it runs through the gears on streets. What's the specs of the radials? I'd be working out the rolling diameter difference and aiming for the diff to be around 3.5 on the radials. Should only need a 3.7 but may even want a 3.89 in it. If it drove through the rpm with the same difference between the radials and the street tyres now again but with the traction it'll mean business.
I expected more and So did Scotty. I know it's a budget build and standard diff etc but i think there's something else holding it back. The Diff gears/limo might get it high 12s but really it's a second off the Pace. Rappos Racing Budget Supermang ran 12.1@113mph similar setup on its first pass. No intercooler hitting 130deg Airtemps by the end. Lucky for you the Haltech Day was cancelled I would of flogged ya Scotty!! Hahaha Good Luck!!
@@rapposracing8538 runs pretty good, the higher compression probably helps and the diff gears are worth a few tenths but that's respectable mph for thay combo. I can only put it down to the tine being a little more conservative. We are running it a bit Paris Hilton (rich and retarded) to make sure it stays alive
@@STREETMACHINETV Crank it up!! I'll be doing a few mods to mine soon and hopefully be racing it at the Holden nationals late February. We'll have to line em up!! Supermang Power
Excellent job !! I remember doing a 12s for 1200 in an AU Fairmont with nitrous.... didn't happen overnight either. In the end I used factory 3.46 gears and 215/60/14 Drag Radials which lowered the effective ratio even further...plus just over a 100 shot to get there. Are the Commodores the same as Falcons as far as the diffs go ? 3.08 ratio Falcon diffs won't fit the higher gear ratios as the housing are machined to different offsets.
@@5lcalais1 M80 didn't come out till the 6 speed BF. Right up to the AU they only had m78 . These are solid axle, and not interchangable. Been there done that.
@@mg74xbgt oh sorry I fd up so Commodore has the m75 with m78 internals and falcon are full m78 and the gears are interchangeable but you've gotta stuff around with lash and shimming a fair bit more, got a few mates who've done it but it's a bit of a stuff around
@@5lcalais1 Yup , am a machinist , and ended up with no shim on one side , 10mm on the other side and it was a pain. If you use Fairmont or xr6 housing that has 3.23 gears and up it's a straight swap. That's why I wanted to know if the Commodore ones are similar. I have a 89 VN Roller I'm going to play with one of these days :)
@@mg74xbgt awesome good to know about the xr6 diff 👍 not sure what I wanna run in mine atm just leaving the 308s for now behind a t5 (turbo v6 aiming for 400bhp) so it shouldn't hurt it too bad as Turbos love load but it might be slightly too tall, either 345s or 323s might be the go, it's a streeter so don't wanna hurt the economy too much lol
Yep needs diff gears. Back in the day i ran 12.89 @ 105 in my VS Ecotec with a shitty SC14 blower on it, rough home tune, 9PSI boost, 15" 205 street tyres, 3.89:1 diff and completely stock motor.
I don't think the profile is that much bigger. I think it is more of a case of the current gears are on the limit of what they can pull with the torque available.
@@STREETMACHINETV - you've added 0.5" to the diameter. I think your diff gearing regardless was more of an issue. IMO the 26x8 pro radials are a much better tyre than the 235 radials, they fit on a 15x7 steelie as well. You should be able to run them at 20psi or higher at your power level - if I can't turn them with a 430rwhp LS and 4.11 diff gears at 20psi then at your power level you should be right.
Have you guys ever thought of a Snow Performance water methanol injection into the blower? Help keep temps down, extra octane for fuel, more power, chemical intercooler without all the big piping, can keep car more stock looking. The more bosst, more methanol injected, equals lower temps... just an option. Snow Performance sells the kits.
Scotty, that head wind (25 kmh/16 mph) is definitely slowing you down. A ratio change & a slippery, & the drag radials, on a calm day, or even a tail wind, would see you right. & I'll be watching, on Carnage. Bring the Trolvo out & run some 10's, just to get your eye in.
Scotty, "dont" cut the bonnet, it'll spoil the car, simply fit the appropriate thickness spacers between the chassis rails and the K member to buy you the necessary space to fit the intercoolerunder the bonnet. It dosn't change the ride hight however it slightly changes the roll centres but i bet you can't tell driving it. The only hassle is the intermitent shaft will need some fiddling , depending on the thickness of the spacer there is some wiggle room on the splines
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering When you move the K member down everthing moves as one , the intermediate shaft ends up in a more vertical position than standard, my club level VS has the engine lowered by 40mm however to go that far i had to get creative. Ive also done this mod to a VB V8 to run a single plane manifold without having to cut a hole in the bonnet. My VS club car also has the engine moved back 100mm so the front half of the tailshaft has 100mm cut out of it , with some longer bolts and a couple of spaces in the centre bearing support the tailshaft has no vibration issues. The change in roll centres hasn't stopped the car from constantly winning its class in Autocross.
Scotty, will she take a higher limiter? Its falling off the power after the 2-3 shift which was made worse by the bigger tyres. Will the 3.73 from trolvo go into that commodore diff?
difference between Scotty an the hater know it all's is Scotty is honest an he tries, Scotty shows his failures an when things don't go as planed/hoped which is far more than can said for the know it all haters... fuck the haters........ well done Scotty .......
Is there any reason you haven't fitted a water/meth injection setup to keep those intake temps under control? I thought this would be the ideal solution until you can sort out an intercooler.
Haters are going to hate sadly and for those hating on Supermang they are just basing their info on a typical stock bogadore v6 well she isn't standard for starters. The old v6 buick's have great potential in themselves to go harder with some mods not much effort as you know for well and I know Supermang has great potential plus there are a plethora of mods that you haven't done to her either and the engine isn't exactly what I would consider run in and once you add the inter cooler that will make a improvement for sure as you know at heart I am a Ford man but I have a fondness for the VN's and other legendary Holdens pre VN up till VZ. Supermang certainly brings back nostalgia of my step dads same red vn commodore certainly a good condition VN is like a aged fine wine it is still a sexy car but I know once you do more mods to it I am a positive thinker and I reckon she will one day see in the 11's I am eagerly awaiting to see the stroker engine but still I think the 3.8 configuration will do it I have seen some impressive v6 ecotechs with turbos and they go hard but again you need money a lot of patience keep at it prove those hater wrong.... Lastly I have to say those pre drag burnouts were impressive unlike the attempted limiter bashing feigns in my area their burnouts are honestly weak you can see Supermang has a torquey engine. Before i retired from the auto industry I used to specialize in Falcons and Commodores I know you have the knowledge and experience plus the backing of some great performance experts behind you so fingers crossed.
I love that everyone told you to keep going and we’re super supportive! You will get it next time scotty!!!!!!
Yep, most people are supportive and thank you for that
Hey a PB is a PB! That's a win in my books! 105mph there is at least a 12.8 in there I recon.
can we all agree that this is one awesome sounding Super Mang?
Couldn't agree more!
@@STREETMACHINETV Bloody oath it sounds mint!
I love this. Reminds me of when I was living in WA in 2001 and racing my BT1 5 speed.
Had a volvo 740 intercooler in it, press bent cooler pipes, an extra injector wired in, 3" exhaust, and a simple boost tap at 15psi.
I raced and raced and raced that thing trying for a 12. I eventually got there, running a 12.8 @ 108. Was so stoked, because everything I did to it was SUPER budget, I thrashed it and it never missed a beat.
12's are a certainty with 3:45 gears.. lovin this Scotty. Cheers for a great vid, and well done to Lance and everyone at HPR for always being so supportive
What was The other injector for
@@harryhorsepower1465 it was connected to a Hobbs pressure switch and would activate after 10psi for extra fuelling. Very rudimentary
What a great video Scotty and Kian! Spewing you didn't get into the 12s - but low 13s on 205 street tires is pretty bloody impressive! Hopefully someone out there has some 3:46s they can throw your way to get the job done! Also - what a ripping bunch Lance and the boys are for the track time and the constant encouragement - Hope you got em a slab! Cheers - Marc
i ran 12.9's on 205's with a single pegger diff with a stock dif ratio in my ls vn
Best way to start the day, with a little carnage 🤘🏼
And a cup of blend 43
@@Frontman936 it's xmas ...hit the vat 69
Thanks for a year full of great videos Scott and Co!
Keep pushing it Scotty, you’ll get there. I love following this story and what SM have done on a budget.
Thanks for another great video mate .Love the enthusiasm Keep up the great work boys
Spewing for you and the elusive 12 Scotty!!!! Great to see Kian made the trip down the road and to have a dragstrip all to yourself that's the best Christmas present right there!!!!🍻👍
Fricken awesome Scotty! Take that wind away & SUPERMANG is right there! Mad Burnouts on those last two runs that's what we wanna see. Love this car it makes me miss my old VN ha ha, was the same colour too. Keen to see what you do with it next cheers!
The MPH is definitely there to get high 12s good work Scotty !
I gotta say, I do like the stock look of the VN, so if you can at all costs avoid cutting the bonnet. It helps with the stealth appeal.
I'm sure you will get that 12, you're not one to sit by and complain when you don't achieve something. Sounds like gearing would help. Also the intake temps with the M90... it sure is a heatpump!
Top work Scotty! Love this car (and I'm a Ford guy) can't wait to see it keep evolving 👌
You are a legend Scotty , Merry Christmas mate all the best to you and your family .
Thanks mate, you too!
Your a legend Scotty and a true car guy. Much respect.
so so close, next time for sure.
Bring on 2022 so many builds to race and smash PB's.
keep up the great work Scotty and team carnage!
Man I love this super mang series I've watched every episode. Since this series has been uploaded my partner and I bought a VT Calais super6 about 4 months ago for $1500 with rego. We are in the process of getting her up to scratch and we'll be adding an exhaust, charger pully and cold air intake ready for all aussie day in April 2022 at lakeside
Good to see Lance still gets pumped up
I’m loving the Supermang series. I’m really looking forward to seeing how far you can get with the blower and then how much further you can get with a turbo pushing 25psi of boost.
Honestly really really glad you haven't done the intercooler yet and did radials.... call it a blessing 🙌
Keep at it mate you will get there so so close
yeeeeeeeeh Scotty, good work guys!
Excellent episode Scotty 👍👍
The best part of this video is Scotty pirouetting in his KT-26s
A few adjustments to the car and it’ll get 12s-the launch is killing it 🤞
That is awesome. I had the same issue with my old IS350. Changed to 17 inch 235/40 AR1 Nangkangs and took two tenths off the 1/8 mile. The smaller diameter helped.
The weather and Covid restrictions beat me as now I know that car would have been up on my PB of 13.27. Never got to run it in the coldest days in winter.
I reckon either smaller diameter tyres or 3.36 gears and that 12 will come.
My goal next year is a 11 in the ISF. That is a tall order.
Have you done much else to your IS350? I've got a 2011 as a daily driver. It's a beast off the line, but they run out of punch up top.
Thanks for sharing
@@jrbuch I had the F-Sport intake from the states, RR-Racing tune, PPE headers and a full custom dual exhaust running through ISF rear mufflers.
Stock mph over the 1/4 was 101, with the mods I had a best of 105.5. ET stock was 13.6, my PB was 13.27. I run in winter with a good DA would have seen a 13.10 or better.
K frame spacers can help , with my vx I cut the bonnet web/frame to fit the w2a kit.
3.45 gears are perfect for l67s don’t go higher or you will be clicking into 4th accross the line
Love how it does chirpies into 2nd.
cheers lance and the boys legends almost there scotty
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this, just a normal shed type build in a standard real street car going laps. Water sprayed into the throttle would cool it down within a minute. When I had a life and raced the xf I'd do exactly this before each run and it made the intake cool to touch. No fancy shit, just a hand pump spray bottle. Love your style, have a great Xmas everyone at street machine 😀
Loving this supermang series! Will definitely hit the 12s with 3.45 diff
Can't wait for you guys to go intercooled, would loved to put my vx l67 up against this once you do!!
Nice scotty, carnage 👍👌 we can't wait to see you crack 12
Great video Scotty
Scotty you are a legend love the burnouts too. I can't wait for the next video on the supermang keep up the good work merry Christmas Scotty🎅🎅🎄🎄🎄🎄☃️☃️☃️☃️
I wonder what my VU Ute will run. L67 swapped, full stage 2 mace cam kit, 16psi pulley, big W2A intercooler, 4.11 diff and a couple other things making 253rwkw on roller dyno. Might have to take it up to HPR one day soon
Hahaha wet myself at 18:52 ish. "Do a bigger burn out"! Tisk tisk, Scotty to hotty! 👍
Yeah buddyy, another episode greetings from The Netherlands ✌
Cool, my mum was born in the Netherlands
@@STREETMACHINETV yeah only good stuff from NL 😜
Love ya work Scotty.
Good work Scotty at least you got to make quite a few runs which gave you some info on the gearing side of things you’ll get there mate keep chipping away. Looking like your sporting some new KT footwear aswell .
The burning smell Scotty, is all the rubber under the guards from the last Burn Out you did😉🙂👍👍
Aaannndd maybe intake temps boiling engine oil🙂
Love to see you add a shot of NOS mild not to spicy and see how it goes then!
It looks so warm there. Watching this trying to warm so I can finish fixing my exhaust on my volvo 740 in 26°f weather.
As a bigger bloke like you Scotty I wonder how many passes that seat will take before it snaps the back rest or cracks the floor mounts! I used to brake them in early Commodores all the time 😂
Vs series 2 broke 2 seats. 3rd time i welded in reinforcment. I was a big boy at 6 ft and 150kgs though
3.56 or 4.11 rear gear. I could hear it bog down in the upper gears. The chirp from 1st to 2nd was cool
Not sure I want to go 4.11, it's still a streetcar
Vl gears m8 3.46 👍
@@STREETMACHINETV A 3.56 would do it to get the 12's. Just gotta watch the 1 to 2 launch. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
Disconnect the tach and turn the radio up on the highways. 4.11s ftw
Awesome work 💪💪💪❤❤🔥🔥
I know I mentioned the Water to Air cooler. But for a temp solution. Why not try a Water/Methanol injection in the intake to get the temps down.
Mate , a PB and you were able to drive it home. Thats a win mate!
I reckon so too
Cheers Scotty
Good effort Scotty! 🇦🇺 😎👍
It's actually pretty well behaved for stock suspension etc.
Shorter diff gears and the drag radials should get you close. Oh and up the rev limiter a touch and a Bag of ice on the intake. 😉
I want to see the trolvo/ supermang head to head challenge now! 👏👏👏
Trolvo will beat Supermang like a red headed step child, but that's not why we built Supermang.
@@STREETMACHINETV 😅😅 Wow, that's a brutal analogy! 🧡🧡🧡
I was thinking a variety of challenges Inc motorkhana, stop/ start, co-vid prohibition border running etc. 😁
How hot did the engine get Scotty. Also well done mate.🚗🚗👌👌👍👍😊😊Told ya, you need a intercooler and also diff gears as well, then she will do mid 12's. :)
If it was easy, everybody would be running 12s. Congrats on the new PB.
What did the car run over the 1/8 th ?
Diff gears make such a huge difference, surprised it wasn't one of the first upgrades.
Mainly expense, because if you're doing gear then you might as well do centre and axles. It adds up quickly
@@STREETMACHINETV Yeah true, maybe try a chance on a 2nd hand complete diff? Not the easiest things to find but they are out there.
Keep up the good work, guys 🍻
Just go a mace engineering torque lock centre and 3.46 gears brand new the torque lock is just under 700 n new gears are 4 to 500 the 28 spline axles are fine
Blake Brewtnall will it have 25 spline axles being early vn? I could never make sense of what has what in those years
@@ZedTee77 I'm pretty sure all vn commodores had 28 spline axles
Hey scottie what are you going to wear now the KT 26'ers are no longer in production
That was an awesome attempt , great guys at the track. In mho I think you’d be pretty sweet going to a 3.55 ratio for the bigger tyre whilst keeping the rpm low enough for street/highway driving with street tyres and you’ll be in the high 12’s Good luck with what ever you choose
You can hear how much better it runs through the gears on streets. What's the specs of the radials? I'd be working out the rolling diameter difference and aiming for the diff to be around 3.5 on the radials. Should only need a 3.7 but may even want a 3.89 in it.
If it drove through the rpm with the same difference between the radials and the street tyres now again but with the traction it'll mean business.
Exactly. If ee were going to stay supercharged forever I'd say 3.7 or 3.9 but because were going turbo eventually we'll put some 3.45s in it
@@STREETMACHINETV add more diameter when the wu tang war whistle goes on. Taller radials do more for traction than width 😉
Scotty, you don't have to predict times and horsepower numbers. Nobody expects it and you just make it hard on yourself.👍
Yeah, I might have to stop doing that, but it's fun to imagine
I run 3.73's in a daily, with a bit of tuning fuel economy is no worse than with stock 3.07 gears and go well with the 4L60e transmission ratio's.
well she does a mean burnout mate . sounds gr8 too !
Love the supermang👌
Doin a great job under the bonnet, Scotty
Well considering all the haters thought the engine would be dead by now, it's going okay.
Well even though it didnt hit the 12s you should be proud of having I think the best sounding v6 commodore around
Thanks dude, it seems to be the consensus. Whatever the Maxx Performance boys did to the exhaust, it sounds amazing.
@@STREETMACHINETV I remember that episode mate and I'm going to copy it on my vy with the l67.... I've got a twin 2.5 and it sounds horrible
Great work Scotty. Bummer you didn’t get the 12. Next time m8. LSD& Gears will do it.
Next time!
Sick dude!
Would a shift light be beneficial
It has shift lights on the Haltech dash
I expected more and So did Scotty. I know it's a budget build and standard diff etc but i think there's something else holding it back. The Diff gears/limo might get it high 12s but really it's a second off the Pace. Rappos Racing Budget Supermang ran 12.1@113mph similar setup on its first pass. No intercooler hitting 130deg Airtemps by the end. Lucky for you the Haltech Day was cancelled I would of flogged ya Scotty!! Hahaha Good Luck!!
Not familiar with the other car
It's also got a conservative tune
@@STREETMACHINETV This is the car on the same night but this run was with a 100shot ua-cam.com/video/0B0S9ewfrII/v-deo.html
@@rapposracing8538 runs pretty good, the higher compression probably helps and the diff gears are worth a few tenths but that's respectable mph for thay combo. I can only put it down to the tine being a little more conservative. We are running it a bit Paris Hilton (rich and retarded) to make sure it stays alive
@@STREETMACHINETV Crank it up!! I'll be doing a few mods to mine soon and hopefully be racing it at the Holden nationals late February. We'll have to line em up!! Supermang Power
18 psi tyre pressure for the win Scotty 👌😎
Excellent job !! I remember doing a 12s for 1200 in an AU Fairmont with nitrous.... didn't happen overnight either. In the end I used factory 3.46 gears and 215/60/14 Drag Radials which lowered the effective ratio even further...plus just over a 100 shot to get there. Are the Commodores the same as Falcons as far as the diffs go ? 3.08 ratio Falcon diffs won't fit the higher gear ratios as the housing are machined to different offsets.
Yeah both Commodore and falcon run very similar diff (Borg warner) Commodore run the m78 n falcon m80 but the gears are totally interchangeable 👍
@@5lcalais1 M80 didn't come out till the 6 speed BF. Right up to the AU they only had m78 . These are solid axle, and not interchangable. Been there done that.
@@mg74xbgt oh sorry I fd up so Commodore has the m75 with m78 internals and falcon are full m78 and the gears are interchangeable but you've gotta stuff around with lash and shimming a fair bit more, got a few mates who've done it but it's a bit of a stuff around
@@5lcalais1 Yup , am a machinist , and ended up with no shim on one side , 10mm on the other side and it was a pain. If you use Fairmont or xr6 housing that has 3.23 gears and up it's a straight swap. That's why I wanted to know if the Commodore ones are similar. I have a 89 VN Roller I'm going to play with one of these days :)
@@mg74xbgt awesome good to know about the xr6 diff 👍 not sure what I wanna run in mine atm just leaving the 308s for now behind a t5 (turbo v6 aiming for 400bhp) so it shouldn't hurt it too bad as Turbos love load but it might be slightly too tall, either 345s or 323s might be the go, it's a streeter so don't wanna hurt the economy too much lol
Question, how do you like the ryobi fan? Does it do good and last decent time on a battery? Was goimg to get one but wasn't sure.
It could be faster but it moves air and helps cool things down
Could you get shorter motor mounts or space the k-member down? to keep the stock hood sleeper look
Or just run without a bonnet, Roadkill style
In our l67 VX I ran 20mm subframe spacers to fit the intercooler and a heat spacer
The shot of nostalgia I got when Scotty said V6 Vengeance 😊
Yep, almost 20 years ago now
Yep needs diff gears. Back in the day i ran 12.89 @ 105 in my VS Ecotec with a shitty SC14 blower on it, rough home tune, 9PSI boost, 15" 205 street tyres, 3.89:1 diff and completely stock motor.
Diff gears make a dramtic change even on a stock unmodified v6.
@@scottterwiel It was honestly the best mod i ever did. The biggest bang for buck. R31 Skyline center and Ford LSD, Mine is IRS though.
Throw some sinkers in that diff. Keep at it mate.
You're 100% right with the bigger tyre profile
Yeah, it was going through my head all night before we ran. "What if the tyres are too tall?" Unfortunately our options were limited.
I don't think the profile is that much bigger. I think it is more of a case of the current gears are on the limit of what they can pull with the torque available.
@@STREETMACHINETV - you've added 0.5" to the diameter. I think your diff gearing regardless was more of an issue. IMO the 26x8 pro radials are a much better tyre than the 235 radials, they fit on a 15x7 steelie as well. You should be able to run them at 20psi or higher at your power level - if I can't turn them with a 430rwhp LS and 4.11 diff gears at 20psi then at your power level you should be right.
Have you guys ever thought of a Snow Performance water methanol injection into the blower? Help keep temps down, extra octane for fuel, more power, chemical intercooler without all the big piping, can keep car more stock looking. The more bosst, more methanol injected, equals lower temps... just an option. Snow Performance sells the kits.
Expensive though, almost as much as an intercooler.
Big burnouts woohoo scotty
Needs intercooling Scotty, the heat is killing power!!!
Scotty, that head wind (25 kmh/16 mph) is definitely slowing you down. A ratio change & a slippery, & the drag radials, on a calm day, or even a tail wind, would see you right. & I'll be watching, on Carnage. Bring the Trolvo out & run some 10's, just to get your eye in.
Time for diff gears! Then the 12s might happen 3.7s or 3.9s 👌
Unlucky mate, you gave it your best...do another one, go again, bigger burnout aha..
Time to hit the bottle Scotty !
My day has peaked at 8am.
Sooo close! I reckon you're right - 3.9s gears LSD should (will) see 12s. I can actually hear it 'winding out' as if gear ratio too tall.
Scotty, "dont" cut the bonnet, it'll spoil the car, simply fit the appropriate thickness spacers between the chassis rails and the K member to buy you the necessary space to fit the intercoolerunder the bonnet.
It dosn't change the ride hight however it slightly changes the roll centres but i bet you can't tell driving it.
The only hassle is the intermitent shaft will need some fiddling , depending on the thickness of the spacer there is some wiggle room on the splines
The centre joint may need to be spaced down also. But then is anything going to foul the steering shaft etc etc.
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When you move the K member down everthing moves as one , the intermediate shaft ends up in a more vertical position than standard, my club level VS has the engine lowered by 40mm however to go that far i had to get creative.
Ive also done this mod to a VB V8 to run a single plane manifold without having to cut a hole in the bonnet.
My VS club car also has the engine moved back 100mm so the front half of the tailshaft has 100mm cut out of it , with some longer bolts and a couple of spaces in the centre bearing support the tailshaft has no vibration issues.
The change in roll centres hasn't stopped the car from constantly winning its class in Autocross.
You'll smash the time scotty. How about some weight reduction in the whip. Seats out etc? Might help... Love the contents. See u at summernats
I'd like to keep it full weight. I'm taking this year off from Summernats. The first one I've missed in 25 years.
@@STREETMACHINETV bugger! Will a few of your project cars be in Canberra? All the best for Christmas Scotty. Cheers bud
Scotty, will she take a higher limiter? Its falling off the power after the 2-3 shift which was made worse by the bigger tyres. Will the 3.73 from trolvo go into that commodore diff?
There's probably not much point in revving it hard for the 2nd to 3rd shift. It really needs diff gears but that a 2022 problem
I thought the KT-26'ers would get you the number.
That things quick. Fine tune easy 12's. Even wind direction change would have seen you their on road tires.
I love this ❤️😍
hey scotty which surround did you use for the ic7 ?
One I'm not particularly impressed with. It's okay but I kind of expected better
@@STREETMACHINETV lol was it the $350 or the $400 one ?
Supermang needs a turbo for Xmas reminds me of the v6 vengeance days
You know you’ve landed on your knees when you’ve got a White VN parked in the driveway
You’ll get it Scotty
You'll get there boys, miles to tall in the diff gear Trutrac's the go 👍
difference between Scotty an the hater know it all's is Scotty is honest an he tries, Scotty shows his failures an when things don't go as planed/hoped which is far more than can said for the know it all haters... fuck the haters........ well done Scotty .......
Don't know why people still hate on em tbh, there's multiple v6s deep into the 8s 👌
Scott give a list of what the VN got / done to it.
There's a whole playlist of 27 videos that document it
With a bit of nitrous 😅and diff gears you’ll easily blow past the 12’s. keep up the good work 👌
Atleast it was a PB Scotty. 😎👍
Yep, but bloody hell I had to fight for it
@@STREETMACHINETV I could see that. 25kmh headwinds definitely don't help. 🤬👎 Now you gotta be a weatherman waiting for winds to change..😂👍
you should have a race with mindiej's vn ls1
I'm pretty sure that will happen.
Is there any reason you haven't fitted a water/meth injection setup to keep those intake temps under control? I thought this would be the ideal solution until you can sort out an intercooler.
Because a decent water meth kit is almost the price of an intercooler.
Haters are going to hate sadly and for those hating on Supermang they are just basing their info on a typical stock bogadore v6 well she isn't standard for starters. The old v6 buick's have great potential in themselves to go harder with some mods not much effort as you know for well and I know Supermang has great potential plus there are a plethora of mods that you haven't done to her either and the engine isn't exactly what I would consider run in and once you add the inter cooler that will make a improvement for sure as you know at heart I am a Ford man but I have a fondness for the VN's and other legendary Holdens pre VN up till VZ. Supermang certainly brings back nostalgia of my step dads same red vn commodore certainly a good condition VN is like a aged fine wine it is still a sexy car but I know once you do more mods to it I am a positive thinker and I reckon she will one day see in the 11's I am eagerly awaiting to see the stroker engine but still I think the 3.8 configuration will do it I have seen some impressive v6 ecotechs with turbos and they go hard but again you need money a lot of patience keep at it prove those hater wrong.... Lastly I have to say those pre drag burnouts were impressive unlike the attempted limiter bashing feigns in my area their burnouts are honestly weak you can see Supermang has a torquey engine. Before i retired from the auto industry I used to specialize in Falcons and Commodores I know you have the knowledge and experience plus the backing of some great performance experts behind you so fingers crossed.
A bit of ww11 water injection Into motor would help as a stop GAP between fitting an intercooler to this beast.
50/50 water metho mix of course.🙂
Being scumbagged into "just one more run" and being able to drive it home is a win no matter what else happened that day...