George Cziffra plays Chopin-Polonaise in A-flat Major Op.53 "Heroique"

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  • @hyoseonl11
    @hyoseonl11 7 років тому +85

    Mr. Cziffra was capable of the utmost virtuosity, yet he knew when to respect and play music with nobility and passion, perfect for Op. 53.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      Are you taking Oxycodone again??

    • @frankiewinters1255
      @frankiewinters1255 4 роки тому +8

      What? How did you come to that specific assumption based on that specific sentence?

    • @agostinodarmini8623
      @agostinodarmini8623 Рік тому

      ​@@tiffsaverma tř

  • @sam08g16
    @sam08g16 4 роки тому +43

    How lucky we are to have all these awesome recordings available at our fingertips

    • @RockyM-ew4dc
      @RockyM-ew4dc 7 місяців тому +1

      Indeed! And so much of a pity that we don't know how did Chopin played it himself :(

    • @RockyM-ew4dc
      @RockyM-ew4dc 7 місяців тому

  • @angellesl9497
    @angellesl9497 4 роки тому +45

    This is exactly how I envisioned Chopin himself playing this most amazing music.
    The best rendition of this piece I've ever heard.
    Most rush rush rush it and we miss so many important notes.
    I absolutely love this piece by this genius.

  • @UTUBEME2010
    @UTUBEME2010 6 років тому +21

    VERY MASSIVE & IMPRESSIVE VIRTUOSO - SO WONDERFUL EXCELLENT

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING??

  • @zihanwang4078
    @zihanwang4078 2 роки тому +7

    Technique and such wonderful interpretation, this man had it all...

  • @wittekjmusic
    @wittekjmusic  11 років тому +69

    Recorded in Hungary - Zalaegerszeg on 1983 March 17. Unfortunately the original video tape was a gift from Georges Cziffra wife Soleilka to me. The Video recorded on the SECAM format and I had to converted to NTSC format and I lost the original sound quality. Sound like out the tune. The piano on the Video, Georges Cziffra favorite Yamaha concert Piano. The most important "not the (bad) piano", You can see a very rare live performances from Georges Cziffra.

    • @vgmessze
      @vgmessze 7 років тому +1

      Szvsz ez a POTE aula, a nagytotálok (4:50 meg 8:05) igazolják. Pécs. Ott voltam. Nagy élmény volt.

    • @gergelycsallo5133
      @gergelycsallo5133 7 років тому +1

      igen, valóban az...egyetemista koromban mennyi koncertet néztem itt végig... szép élmények, dacára a borzalmas akusztikának :)

    • @gergelycsallo5133
      @gergelycsallo5133 7 років тому +1

      actually it was in Pécs, Hungary

    • @sidneycurtiss8882
      @sidneycurtiss8882 6 років тому

      Gergely Csallo I

    • @sam08g16
      @sam08g16 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you so much for sharing with us

  • @ClassicalOverContemporary
    @ClassicalOverContemporary 2 місяці тому +2

    What a mind-blowingly great performance and interpretation. I thought Rubenstein had likely the best interpretation of this piece... Horowitz's was also fun. But this... is the most well-polished of them all. The voicing, the dynamics... the tempo. All perfect. There was a seamless structure to the entire piece with flawless transitions among the many different sections. Bravo

  • @piano345
    @piano345 11 років тому +99

    It must have been very difficult for Cziffra to return to his homeland Hungary in 1983 after the tragic death of his only son Gyorgy Cziffra Jr. in a house fire in 1981. Cziffra was devastated and never played with orchestra again.

    • @miguelleiton3645
      @miguelleiton3645 12 днів тому +1

      Solo la Música nos puede mantener con fuerza para continuar frente a la pérdida de un hijo....

  • @sargeantpepper
    @sargeantpepper 9 років тому +105

    If this is a very incredible performance, just think how Chopin played this....Cziffra the best technique pianist ever.

    • @hugod327
      @hugod327 6 років тому +7

      Dinu lipatti was on a similar technical level. Compare both of their gnomenreigen by liszt and you will notice. There are also rachmaninoff and horowitz who are on a similar technical level

    • @GrV1Ty.
      @GrV1Ty. 2 роки тому +2

      @@hugod327 no not horowitz. horowitz is not known for his technique and that is because its not what makes him special. its his interpetation. so no horowitz doesnt have any kind of well technique for a professional pianist

    • @MathieuPrevot
      @MathieuPrevot Рік тому +4

      @@GrV1Ty. Rachmaninoff himself said that he ignored the possibilities of the piano until Horowitz played. He also considered that Horowitz played the thirds concerto better than him and said: "that's Horowitz's concerto". Horowitz defined virtuosity at his time, and still today IMHO.
      Beside stopping your fake news-like to troll-like claims, you also might want to write a more proper english.

    • @GrV1Ty.
      @GrV1Ty. Рік тому +2

      @@MathieuPrevot no horowitz is not known for technique. Yes rachmaninoff said that i know and you know why he said it? Because horowitz interpretion and musicality was really great not because of his technique.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому +1

      @@MathieuPrevot 👍👍👍👍

  • @Eunicecastro2000
    @Eunicecastro2000 5 років тому +9

    Amazing performance. I love Cziffra.

  • @jonathanmelamed3456
    @jonathanmelamed3456 12 років тому +22

    when you put all the factors of a great pianist together. mr cziffra was the greatest of them all.

  • @all7509
    @all7509 4 роки тому +8

    So beautiful and wonderful performance. Thank you.

  • @agujasypuntillas
    @agujasypuntillas 11 років тому +14

    Amazing composition of chopin .... incredibly !!!

  • @migorigor8819
    @migorigor8819 8 років тому +13

    Uram atyám:)) A világon nem lesz még egy ilyen művész!:)

  • @mostsfa780
    @mostsfa780 8 років тому +24

    Chopin is in my heart 🌹🌷🌼🌸💐🌻🌺

  • @karjun53
    @karjun53 6 років тому +12

    This is a very interesting story - and an amazing performance of G. Cziffra! Thanks for sharing this interesting history summary and the great Chopin performance.!

  • @윤태석-t5u
    @윤태석-t5u 2 роки тому +3

    I like the way he plays softly but strong enough. :-)

  • @skellez83
    @skellez83 Рік тому +3

    This performance just makes a lot of sense to me and it’s very tasteful. He has just the right tad of “out of the schemes-ness”

  • @robert982
    @robert982 11 років тому +13

    Thank you for this and other lovely posts of Cziffra playing. Much appreciated.

  • @michellenormand8858
    @michellenormand8858 2 роки тому +5

    je n'ai jamais écouté une si grande interprétation De la polonaise.

    • @ecommoy
      @ecommoy 9 місяців тому

      Tout à fait d accord. Mais écoutez quand même seong Jin cho , le coréen !

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca 8 років тому +17

    I´ve yet to see someone play this polonaise Op 53 and don´t sweat ! :) It´s rather demanding piece !

    • @mangogyfufi6453
      @mangogyfufi6453 8 років тому +1

      Horowitz

    • @DihelsonMendonca
      @DihelsonMendonca 8 років тому +10

      I don´t agree. I´ve seen even Horowitz playing it and his expression after the final Ab is kind of "Ughhh" ( demanding piece ). I have played it for my entire life, and I feel the same, no matter how phisicaly I am prepared for it. It consumes much energy, you can´t play it softly...

    • @marshan1226
      @marshan1226 6 років тому +2

      Dihelson Mendonca Listen to Cyprien Katsaris play it, perfect technique and no sweat !!

    • @seksanammawat8682
      @seksanammawat8682 6 років тому +2

      How's about Madame Argerich?

    • @MarcAmengual
      @MarcAmengual 6 років тому

      @@seksanammawat8682 and Rubinstein, of course...

  • @nicoleroger119
    @nicoleroger119 7 років тому +7

    Sublime et émouvant interprète de Chopin !!!! Je crois : le MEILLEUR 😌

  • @spodermanmemes
    @spodermanmemes 10 років тому +8

    Thank you for this beautiful melody

  • @beverlybrodsky5053
    @beverlybrodsky5053 7 років тому +7

    Extraordinary! Bravo

  • @gaillardjacquie1244
    @gaillardjacquie1244 6 років тому +2

    Un très grand virtuose que j'ai eu le plaisir de voir jouer . Souvenir inoubliable .

  • @i-told-you-sodear1526
    @i-told-you-sodear1526 7 років тому +6

    The best rendition of the "Heroic Polonaise".

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      Did you go to school to get stupid??

    • @tejaswi5119
      @tejaswi5119 3 роки тому

      @@tiffsaver dude stop. This is the best rendition

  • @marksmith3947
    @marksmith3947 2 роки тому +1

    Very elegant and graceful. The left hand octaves are not rushed either

  • @nxs1-n1d
    @nxs1-n1d 6 місяців тому

    Tempo perfecto ... ejecucion perfecta ... George Cziffra for ever !!! 🤩👏👏👏

  • @sergioorlandodias5062
    @sergioorlandodias5062 4 роки тому +6

    Цифра это легенда фортепьяно. Виртуоз, интеллектуал инструмента, бывший узник концлагеря, которому целенаправленно ломали руки, чтобы не играл.
    Такой музыкант вызывает любовь и уважение на всю жизнь . жаль он ушёл из жизни. У меня есть его редчайшие записи.

    • @sziszi050
      @sziszi050 Рік тому +1

      Tetszik! Bár nem egészen így történt. Valóban büntetőtáborban volt, mert az embercsempészek elárulták, amikor családjával külföldre indult. Építkezésen kellett dolgoznia. Köveket hordania. Amikor ilyen munkára kényszerítették épp a kezeit kímélni akaró társai, mentőakcióba léptek. brigádvezetőjüknek tették, adminisztrációs munkára. :)

    • @sziszi050
      @sziszi050 Рік тому

      „Egykori miskolci rabtársa, Határ Győző építész-író így emlékezik a Dudujka-völgyi Rákosi Mátyás Nehézipari Műszaki Egyetem építkezésére és Cziffra György »rabkoncertjére«" "Feleségével és újszülött gyermekével Csehszlovákián át próbáltak meglépni, és a csehszlovák-osztrák határon kapcsolták le őket. S mindez az izgalom, ez a hányódás-sodródás nem napok, hanem hetek története volt: a lebuktató embercsempészek megalkudtak a bőrére a háta mögött. Három évet kapott. Nem nagyképűsködött, ismerték, tisztelték a táborban, de inkább csak távolságtartással. (…)
      Persze voltak a telepen, akiknél Gyurka nem volt népszerű: bumburnyák smasszerek; primitív surmók, akik a »zongoraművész« hallatára megbokrosodtak és mindenáron ki akartak babrálni vele" forrás Wikipédia A mentőakcióval folytatja és amit a rabkoncertről írt, még engem is meghatottak 70+-os koromban. Az itt a Wikipédián folytatja a rabtárs író :) hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cziffra_Gy%C3%B6rgy_(zongoram%C5%B1v%C3%A9sz)

  • @gordonmartin11
    @gordonmartin11 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent ! Comme il aimait le dire, il avait "la souplesse" qui fait le virtuose...

  • @dustovshio
    @dustovshio 6 років тому +16

    cziffra is the greatest pianist since liszt

    • @smudger671
      @smudger671 5 років тому +1

      So you've heard Liszt play I assume?

    • @Un-homme-avec-raison
      @Un-homme-avec-raison 5 років тому +3

      @@smudger671?

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      WHAT???

    • @giorgiobrugaletta2878
      @giorgiobrugaletta2878 5 років тому +1

      One of the greatest pianist ever, not THE greatest. Arrau, for exemple, or Richter, not to mention Rachmaninoff, was greater than him.

    • @PrincessDesert
      @PrincessDesert 3 роки тому +3

      Richter sucks. Arrau & Cziffra both trained under Liszt's post-pupils, get a clue; so quit comparing both of them like it's a competition

  • @robertoteixeira774
    @robertoteixeira774 5 років тому +2

    Excellent !!!!!!!!!

  • @pozitiv490
    @pozitiv490 8 років тому +8

    Очень понравилось!

  • @neljoj4767
    @neljoj4767 4 роки тому +2

    Exelent 🎼🎹

  • @brynmiller7547
    @brynmiller7547 8 років тому +13

    So effortless.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      "Effortless," as in "Boring."

    • @finderrio
      @finderrio 4 роки тому +3

      @@tiffsaver Bad take.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 4 роки тому

      @@finderrio
      Really? How so?? And this time, BE SPECIFIC.

    • @ilovemilfs69420
      @ilovemilfs69420 4 роки тому +3

      @@tiffsaver Effortless and boring are quite different things, my man. And why do you keep replying random comments making assumptions that they're drug addicts? Are you on drugs? Please wake up. It takes years and years od experience and passion to effortlessly play a piece like that, but it's not at all boring. In the effortlessness, there are actual emotion and Cziffra slowing down his interpretation just shows his emotion. I am sorry and by no means want to offend you, but what part of your brain are you using? Please excuse my not at all adequate English.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 4 роки тому

      @@ilovemilfs69420
      BORING IS THE WORD. Nothing in any of my comments regarding this player is either "random" or inaccurate, other than your lavish praise of this guy's performance, one so utterly lackluster as to defy description. This obvious imposter had about as much PASSION in his playing as my little brother did playing at this first recital. I don't know who this guy is, but by any recognizable standard of great playing, this guy would get booed right out of Carnegie Hall, or any other recognized classical venue that I know of. I've seen 9-year old Asian kids who played with more panache and feeling that this lump of coal in a tuxedo. Once again, pay close attention to the poor guy SLEEPING in the front row of this "exciting performance." He was mercifully unconscious, no doubt due to the coma-inducing quality of this guy's totally uninspired, mechanical performance.

  • @eustachiodemarco
    @eustachiodemarco 2 роки тому +2

    MAESTRO ASSOLUTO!

  • @keepinfotechsimple
    @keepinfotechsimple 9 років тому +25

    5:23 !! Love that part

    • @79Tomasso
      @79Tomasso Рік тому

      Always loved the chord at 5:35

  • @ITZ-NOX
    @ITZ-NOX 5 років тому +4

    the oscar peterson of the 20th century modern classical performance era.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      Don't ever put down Oscar Peterson like this again.

    • @glennthompson4725
      @glennthompson4725 4 роки тому +2

      @@tiffsaver Wasn't a putdown of Oscar, rather and by omission, a lift up of Art.

  • @Rodney-hw2mp
    @Rodney-hw2mp 6 місяців тому +1

    Great technique

  • @batorlilia5841
    @batorlilia5841 3 роки тому +3

    Cette musique est une merveille du piano

    • @sziszi050
      @sziszi050 Рік тому

      Szerintem is és, hát a zongoristáé is! 🙂

  • @aricle123456
    @aricle123456 8 років тому +4

    The best!

  • @GIOBODAN
    @GIOBODAN 3 роки тому +3

    Che talento straordinario!

  • @myroslavadanilova771
    @myroslavadanilova771 6 років тому +4

    Brilliant!!!

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      BRILLIANTLY BORING.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      Compared to who?

    • @untonsured
      @untonsured 4 роки тому +3

      @@tiffsaver you

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 4 роки тому +1

      @@untonsured
      DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL TO GET STUPID??

    • @untonsured
      @untonsured 4 роки тому

      @@tiffsaver I love you

  • @camilloflaim8933
    @camilloflaim8933 5 років тому +1

    For Cziffra to play op.53 of Chopin it's so easy like to play valzer slow FASCINATION !!!!

  • @diapasonabsolu
    @diapasonabsolu 6 років тому +5

    Le piano YAMAHA n'est pas à la hauteur du talent de Cziffra et en plus il est mal accordé . Il sonne fêlé . Seul un Steinway aurait été à la hauteur du génie musical de Georgy Cziffra .

  • @maximmerle
    @maximmerle Рік тому

    bravo

  • @EnricoMasala
    @EnricoMasala 6 років тому +2

    grazie!

  • @Deutre08
    @Deutre08 2 роки тому +7

    Qué grande Cziffra!!, puede tomarse todas las libertades interpretativas que quiera, algunas me gustarán otras no tanto, pero para mí es uno de los grandes entre los grandes. Capo total!!

  • @carmenrubio3786
    @carmenrubio3786 4 роки тому

    REALMENTE MARAVILLOSO

  • @stevehinnenkamp5625
    @stevehinnenkamp5625 Рік тому +1

    Marvelous! What a dud of an audience! Should be kissing the sweat off his brow. PHILLISTINES!

  • @jupiterki
    @jupiterki 4 роки тому +3

    George un tutorial por favor

  • @jocelyneplaneix5700
    @jocelyneplaneix5700 5 місяців тому

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ericnewberg7090
    @ericnewberg7090 3 роки тому +3

    Great rendition but doesn't have the dynamic and speed of Horowitz at his prime. Bravo to any artists that takes in this piece. Hearing Chopin play this must have been quite a thrill.

  • @oliverkang9905
    @oliverkang9905 3 місяці тому

    从容👍👏😄💪

  • @claudinegilbert8171
    @claudinegilbert8171 7 років тому +4

    "Le" Meilleur !

    • @philipjungelson8591
      @philipjungelson8591 Рік тому

      Non, un des grands, plutôt... Il ne s'agit pas d'une compétition, après tout...

  • @stefaniavirgili697
    @stefaniavirgili697 8 місяців тому

    Fede:❤❤❤

  • @AnonYmous-ry2jn
    @AnonYmous-ry2jn Рік тому

    Is that Gorbechev in the 3rd or 4th row?

  • @kionawaka69
    @kionawaka69 5 років тому

    リスト弾きとして有名なシフラは意外にショパンも多く弾いている。いささか抑え気味に弾いているが、それでも腕が立ちすぎるのか、技巧が空回りするフシがある。

  • @Ludwig_Van_Beethoven1770
    @Ludwig_Van_Beethoven1770 Місяць тому

    My fav part 4:04-8:00

  • @vaxx2007
    @vaxx2007 5 місяців тому

    interesting that octaves episode he plays more or less in a quality as I play. may be he was too tired

  • @Rudel23
    @Rudel23 11 років тому +6

    Thank you, where was recorded this video? What a bad piano, even out of tune...

  • @Warauwater
    @Warauwater 6 місяців тому

    I’m so happy that he played with YAMAHA.

    • @RobertSmith-le8wp
      @RobertSmith-le8wp Місяць тому

      Yamaha are wonderful pianos. When I’m able to afford it I want to get a Yamaha or Kawai baby grand, probably something 6’ or so. I’ve heard some older Steinway pianos that sound nice, but the newer ones didn’t impress me that much

  • @Ludwig142
    @Ludwig142 3 роки тому

    How i played?

  • @m0ment219
    @m0ment219 4 роки тому +2

    Even though he was Hungarian, he really managed to give it a VERY polonaise-like feeling, which is mostly disregarded by lots of pianists, who just use their own play-style instead of the Polish one.
    This piece references the Polish revolution really well, and we don't know it, but maybe that's what Chopin even wanted it to reference. He played it very subtle which doesn't suit that theme very well, but the polonaise style... 😙

  • @catherineperre1072
    @catherineperre1072 4 роки тому

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @marekvollach7831
    @marekvollach7831 2 роки тому

    Such fluid connection between hands, fingers and the keys: almost looks like technique… ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY is …. NOT 😇😔🤣🙏🏼😎

  • @cristiandone5749
    @cristiandone5749 3 роки тому

    Increible como se nota los videos antes y el despues de la muerte de su hijo JR por su expresion.

  • @may7153
    @may7153 6 років тому +4

    His interpretation of this piece sounds quite similar to Cho’s performance in the Chopin Piano Competition in 2015. I can’t compare because of such low sound quality of this video but it still sounds much alike. I thought Cho’s was unique and new but maybe not so much. There was this legendary pianist way before...!

    • @ecommoy
      @ecommoy 8 місяців тому

      Parfaitement d accord

  • @batorlilia5841
    @batorlilia5841 3 роки тому

    Chopin , le seul pianiste qui a donné la vie à cette musique

  • @paulmacconnor5865
    @paulmacconnor5865 11 років тому +1

    Even Greater than... the Legendary... NEKEARBREV ?!!

  • @adrolid1
    @adrolid1 Рік тому

    Magistral interpretacion pésima la grabación con saltos

  • @techinoneminute
    @techinoneminute 5 місяців тому +1

    1:52 he made a mistake

  • @albertomirandamiranda7073
    @albertomirandamiranda7073 3 роки тому

    Like Horowitz..

  • @ahmadfarran-9845
    @ahmadfarran-9845 Рік тому

    Rabenstien's still the best cover

  • @dustovshio
    @dustovshio 6 років тому

    it almost looks like he is double jointed.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      It looks like he's on double TRANQUILIZERS.

    • @ivorap8197
      @ivorap8197 3 роки тому +3

      @@tiffsaver Hahahahahah I’ve gotta applaud you for being so passionate about not enjoying his performance, rather incredible how much time and effort you put into making the world aware of your dislikes

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 3 роки тому

      @@ivorap8197
      I would have never even contributed to this thread if the comments regarding this performance weren't so incredibly HYPED. If you don't understand the definition, look it up. I've seen 9-year old players with more passion that this colossal lump of coal. Even Liberace blows him away.

    • @ivorap8197
      @ivorap8197 3 роки тому +1

      @@tiffsaver After reading your comments I was already pretty aware of your thoughts on him, but isn’t it much more preferable for the sake of your own time and mental well-being to just let others be hyped about something you may not agree with? Whatever your opinion is on anything, people will always believe the opposite. Trying to convince them will keep you busy for eternity

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 3 роки тому

      @@ivorap8197
      It was purely "for the sake of my well-being" that I contributed to this channel in the first place! It reminds me of when people were claiming "what a great singer Madonna is!!" It was such a monumental JOKE that I was forced to say something, just as I did here. If you don't agree with my personal assessment of this pianist's performance of my favorite Chopin Polonaise, good for you... it's still a free country. But with people like you around, it won't be for long.

  • @adriancook7078
    @adriancook7078 5 років тому +1

    I have never heard of or heard this pianist before. Why did he play on such an awful piano ?

    • @sziszi050
      @sziszi050 Рік тому

      Mert nem studió felvétel és az akusztika sem tökéletes. Egy magyar vidéki város kultúrterme lehet és nem a zeneakadémia hangverseny terme. Viszont a közönség örömére játszott! :-)

  • @aliabrahimi3711
    @aliabrahimi3711 11 років тому +5

    very messy Heroique.

    • @PrincessDesert
      @PrincessDesert 5 років тому +2

      You Amazing Moron ! Cziffra knows how to Play Chopin because he was taught by a Pupil of a Pupil of Liszt !!

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      @@PrincessDesert
      Yeah, right.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      I don't know how anyone could even stay awake during this performance.

  • @soundautomatic1
    @soundautomatic1 4 роки тому +1

    Seems almost bored with the timing. Obviously this a fantastic player, but I think it's a pretty mediocre performance for a pro.

    • @mhdfrb9971
      @mhdfrb9971 2 роки тому +1

      Look who's talking

    • @GouganeBarra-u4t
      @GouganeBarra-u4t 7 днів тому

      The piano is mediocre... NOT Cziffra. I have nothing but the greatest of respect for the man

  • @alainspiteri502
    @alainspiteri502 5 років тому

    Always very viril : not here , except Listz j don't understand Cziffra , not interesting for me

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 5 років тому

      You are the ONLY one on this entire thread with a good ear. This guy is like watching a dead man sitting up.

  • @vdv3009
    @vdv3009 Рік тому

    La migliore esecuzione di questo componimento di Chopin rimane assolutamente quella di Arthur Rubinstein!

  • @aricle123456
    @aricle123456 8 років тому

    The best!