Clearing up confusion: this isn’t cheating and it’s not scripted. Now, Ding’s secret training account got leaked. Which means Team Nepo may be able to scout other openings Ding was planning to play. It’s a big mistake!
The internet can find the most insane leaks ever. Some guy leaked confidential Pentagon information in Minecraft and someone leaked a secret military jet on War Thunder.
This story is likely 100% fake, so the government can push to monitor speech in private chat rooms. They don't want any non government certified speech anywhere. No fuxking minecraft nerd is leaking illegal classified docs. on private servers where people just wanna play minecraft. Wtf? Why are they pushing to monitor private chat rooms when they were able to get access to this one? If someone in the government leaked docs they should probably find them and fire them, just a recommendation. . . Or they need better internet security. No, no, that would be too easy and logical. They need to see everything we're doing at all times so minecraft nerds don't jeopardize national security. . . Do you guys see how stupid this story sounds?
Yeah but 4chan are leagues better at investigation than Reddit. But yes both are frighteningly capable, arguably more effective than official investigators.
@@kit5850 a leak is secret or hidden info that is leaked to the public. ding and richard rapport used a public service(lichess) that tracks all games. and also has public position search. do you get the difference now? the fault is on ding for not using a private service.
@Paint his training partner is also a GM and since Ding was the one with the initiative most of the game it isn't ridiculous to think that the training partner would play the most natural responses that Ian would end up playing. And the game differed immediately after Ding's attempted bishop sacrifice. A lot of people are completely misreading this situation.
It's reasonable to make a new account for practice. You use your main account opponents looks it up, he knows what openings you're practising. I just hope that this position is theory that they both knew.
@@cubesquared7808 because if it’s not ding Lirens account he won’t know the theory and if Ian plays it based off of that accounts theory ding Liren will be in a bad spot. If they both know the theory at least it’s probably a more frequent draw
Imagine if this was a psyop by Ding's team. Now if Nepo prepared games played by those accounts and Ding plays something completely different it would be diabolical.
How are we so sure someone isn’t just logging the moves on their own board which would make sense why it’s on played between 2 people because it’s themselves or themselves and 1 friend
Wouldn't this also mean that Ding is already operating on a level where he can run scenarios where he is predicting world chess championship early, mid and end game scenarios before they already begin?
Levy: *The World Chess Championship* Also Levy: "This guy" is playing "This guy" I died- 💀☠️ Levy do not recognize them or may not acknowledge them anymore 😭
Well that account might be the account Ding uses for training with Rapport so reviewing all the games played on that account might give Nepo's team an idea of what openings Ding has prepared and is planing of playing
thats like saying if 4 jackie chan were employed by the CCP....like, "if hollywood was a wing of the military, that would be new & cool" 😂😂😂 Already been that way forever😂
OR...the two anonymous users might just be playing engine moves to test the theory of every perfect game being a draw. I've also done it, and I'm sure many would've done it too.
I think this might be a bluff from Ding. That h3 move from the second game has been played 1000 times before, but Ra2 and h4 have only been played by Ding and Rapport. So maybe they planned after this exact game, they would sac the "prep" and pretend it got leaked, so they could confuse team Nepo and play something totally different
No way.... Ding Chilling is cheating?!?!?!?! Edit: I know now that he's not cheating but did gotham see my comment????? he posted his one an hour after mine so is it possible??? idk probably not tbh
I kind of don't like the idea that Ding wins but is basically also his trainer winning, like it isn't even just Ding winning. I'm sure everyone for the longest time has done this but I like the idea that it's one person rising to the occasion and winning through their own mind alone.
What? It's probably just two robots recreating famous games. As a kid me and my dad used to read the daily chess move in the newspaper every morning and then recreate the move
It'd be amazing if Ding and Rapport set up all those games just to lead team Nepo astray, and come out after everything is over like "In the future, maybe let's not focus so much on the espionage side of chess."
@@tanaalyna in chess it's very very rare a same position is repeated....whereas these two accounts repeated the same position multiple times only played against each other... so yeah 👀
Bruh ding used to be one of my favourites but idk what's happening to him anymore people say he is nervous but i haven't seen someone be so nervous ever
Clearing up confusion: this isn’t cheating and it’s not scripted. Now, Ding’s secret training account got leaked. Which means Team Nepo may be able to scout other openings Ding was planning to play. It’s a big mistake!
Pin of shame
Ok
😂
Ok also they can do that!!!
E
Ding's not chilling anymore... Ding's anxious
💀
Bro became so flabbergasted that he is now quandale ding le
BING CHILLING
His brain going ding ding ding ding
Nah you too funny
Next up:"reddit users leaked secret military tactics to make chess more realistic"
God already got the queen, he has advantage
War Thunder moment. Me when my MiG-15bis is not good so I leak Su-27 docs
The British don’t have a queen and the US dont have the towers
Or leak it in discord like that one stupid fuck
America Is without rooks and UK Is without Queen, Is It fair?
The two friends that only like playing each other realizing they may have caused one of the greatest chess scandales in history:
👁️👄👁 👁👄👁️
😂
I've literally only played one guy in chess everyday online for the last 3 years. Unfortunately, I play far too poorly to be considered GM level 😂
@@g.3521 1500 is more intermediate
@@Gotimidzero well yeah of course? What's your point
Just two friends casually playing super gm level chess😅
Pentagon: “HOLY S*** WE GOT BREACHED”
Chess community: “Shut up. We have a crisis at hand.”
LMFAO I SAW THAT
Atleast it was not done by a guy who wanted people to believe that he is ding's friend.
Yeah and they got breached by a 21 year old who goes by jack the dripper
Lmfao how
The got violated by a drip lord
The internet can find the most insane leaks ever. Some guy leaked confidential Pentagon information in Minecraft and someone leaked a secret military jet on War Thunder.
Yeah except those examples weren't the internet finding needles in haystacks, those were the leakers just being mind bogglingly stupid lol
@@soundbeverage3964 neither was this lol
The pentagon info was first leaked in thug shaker central 💀
This story is likely 100% fake, so the government can push to monitor speech in private chat rooms.
They don't want any non government certified speech anywhere. No fuxking minecraft nerd is leaking illegal classified docs. on private servers where people just wanna play minecraft. Wtf? Why are they pushing to monitor private chat rooms when they were able to get access to this one?
If someone in the government leaked docs they should probably find them and fire them, just a recommendation. . . Or they need better internet security. No, no, that would be too easy and logical. They need to see everything we're doing at all times so minecraft nerds don't jeopardize national security. . .
Do you guys see how stupid this story sounds?
@@soundbeverage3964they're probably just bored lol it's not stupidity, it's taking on the challenge 😈
Redditors always be finding something crazy lmao
I swear if the FBI has a case run cold just hand it over to Reddit
Yeah, because they're degenerate blob people living in their mom's basements so it's easy to make time. 😂
I mean you could just play the moves in the lichess analysis and then the database shows you the games in which this position was reached.
They need to find a job
Dont underestimate the jobless
What conclusion can we draw from his history?
- He uses incognito mode
If we give a Reddit user a child’s magnifying glass they could find life on other planets I swear.
4chan was given a photo of terrorists then got them bombed a few hours later
4chan users wouldn't even need a magnifying glass. (Although, they'd probably advocate for the immediate killing of whatever life they found.)
Scorpo profile picture, I respect that
Yeah but 4chan are leagues better at investigation than Reddit.
But yes both are frighteningly capable, arguably more effective than official investigators.
@@GenericInternetter give one to 4chan and they'd be able to find life on another planet...but would still be unable to find grass
Bluds was trainin for the Chunin Exams
Mate thinks he’s Naruto with his shadow clone jutsu innit?
Cheese
Those 1500s were Ding and Rapport. Or it was my brother and his friend who also only play each other on Lichess
@@cheese1627 I agree 😔
huh?
Plot twist : It's all planned by the Chinese government to confuse Ding's opponent
not a big plot twist tbh.
😂😂😂😂
I like the idea it’s just to confuse him and not to actually beat him 💀 like they are just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks
4Chan would have uncovered more than just training games
“Would have” bro they didn’t even uncover training games
@yoosh Bruh, they found a flag with nothing but a picture of the sky.
@@yoosh9034 dude they looked at stars on a livestream just to pinpoint the location of the flag
Bro can we not compare these 2 platforms. Maybe 4 chance users were on Reddit. You can’t tell
@@yoosh9034 they literally helped the police & government track down someone who was abusing turtles and decided to post it on the internet
Warthunder players when their F-14 is 0.002% slower than in reality:
?
Bro are you a kid
I think this is a reference to when top secret plans for a fighter jet were leaked on Warthunder.
it wasnt really a data leak. it was public information. someone just found it via position search.
the data was definitionally leaked. what you mean is it wasn't really what people normally mean when they say data leak.
@@kit5850 a leak is secret or hidden info that is leaked to the public.
ding and richard rapport used a public service(lichess) that tracks all games. and also has public position search.
do you get the difference now?
the fault is on ding for not using a private service.
You are correct but saying “public information was just shared publicly” doesn’t match the background music
@@acousticmario6109 Yes, it was public available
@@acousticmario6109 you are unfortunately mixing up connotation with denotation but i forgive you
No wonder ding didn’t even have to think about his moves 😂
No thats not cheating his secret training for his match where he practice got leaked
@@Paint75 it wasnt ding and nepo it was prolly ding and someone on his team
Its him and his trainer practicing the line, theyre not cheating lol
@Paint his training partner is also a GM and since Ding was the one with the initiative most of the game it isn't ridiculous to think that the training partner would play the most natural responses that Ian would end up playing. And the game differed immediately after Ding's attempted bishop sacrifice. A lot of people are completely misreading this situation.
@@Paint75 the other player was his coach and he was planning what to play
What if it was just two friend who wanted to just copy there moves
I feel really sad for Ding. If Nepo finds all the counter to his moves then the title is already out of Ding's hands
😢
True
Aged like fine milk
Not even close lol
Imagine the entire chess championship is just fake and they just agreed on 7 games they then just learned and memorized
No thats not cheating his secret training for his match where he practice got leaked
Except the actual games diverged from the training games. They were almost definitely Ding prepping with Rappaport or someone else on his team.
Ding is not bing chilling anymore, he’s having anxiety
Ding Anxiety
Missed wins: 1. Ding chilling
It's reasonable to make a new account for practice. You use your main account opponents looks it up, he knows what openings you're practising. I just hope that this position is theory that they both knew.
This position wasn't exactly theory they both knew
The name of the game is to try and get your opponent out of theory, why would you care if both of them knew the theory
lol as good as my soap opera... possibly
@@cubesquared7808 because if it’s not ding Lirens account he won’t know the theory and if Ian plays it based off of that accounts theory ding Liren will be in a bad spot. If they both know the theory at least it’s probably a more frequent draw
Practicing*
nah, it’s just my two 7th grade classmates playing against each other after a math test.
Imagine if this was a psyop by Ding's team. Now if Nepo prepared games played by those accounts and Ding plays something completely different it would be diabolical.
He pretty much has to play something different now anyways
Now, maybe this is 4D chess to make Nepo waste time analysing these games instead of what Ding was actually preparing!
Use Occam's razor my dude. Ding isn't playing some 5D chess here, he just played his practice games in a public site
@@agent0422 this was a joke.
How are we so sure someone isn’t just logging the moves on their own board which would make sense why it’s on played between 2 people because it’s themselves or themselves and 1 friend
Wouldn't this also mean that Ding is already operating on a level where he can run scenarios where he is predicting world chess championship early, mid and end game scenarios before they already begin?
no lol
That "moooooooves" was hilarious😂
Redditors are wild bro🤣
Levy: *The World Chess Championship*
Also Levy: "This guy" is playing "This guy"
I died- 💀☠️
Levy do not recognize them or may not acknowledge them anymore 😭
It’s always the Redditors..
Not always
and 4chaners
Damn, chess be wildin' these days.
I remember when you just had to move a piece on a board.
Imagine they both get disqualified and Magnus gets the title by default 😂😂
Huh? I think you misunderstood bud.
@@drownedcreation he said imagine
@@An_ac130 yes, followed by a statement that clearly demonstrates he misunderstood.
@@drownedcreation true
This could be a distraction tactic by ding and rapport which can completely throw nepo offguard
This shows the need to have private games from the publicly accessible database
Play in person
@@Surrenderpoint But here ding and rapport were on two different parts of the earth
Ding is a time traveler and replayed those moves on an anon
Redditors and the guys on 4 chan are the best detectives
The white account has reached the queensgambit 7 times, each time playing 4. h3!! Precisely what Ding played as a surprise weapon! This is big
So Ding is following the data or just a coincidence? What do you mean "team Nepo may be able to scout other openings ding was planning to play"?
Well that account might be the account Ding uses for training with Rapport so reviewing all the games played on that account might give Nepo's team an idea of what openings Ding has prepared and is planing of playing
Well this is likely dings account so it seems that this is his prep so nepo can use this
Damn they hiding something
?
if the redditors that can find things like this were employed by the government no one would be safe 😂
If redditors were employed they wouldn't be redditors.
*cough* warthunder *cough*
@@Potato_the_third leaking nuclear launch codes for “realism”
thats like saying if 4 jackie chan were employed by the CCP....like, "if hollywood was a wing of the military, that would be new & cool" 😂😂😂
Already been that way forever😂
Given how close this match has been it's such a massive shame.
Alternate title: Redditors make Nepo world champion
Well this aged poorly
@@zerozedzakiYeah, like fine... Milk
Maybe rehearsal games between Nepo and Ding since it was predetermined that Ding would win.
Pretty horrible when it's so obvious
4chan: Vigilante
Reddit: Detective
Reddit is more like stalker than detective
OR...the two anonymous users might just be playing engine moves to test the theory of every perfect game being a draw. I've also done it, and I'm sure many would've done it too.
If only reddit users put this much effort into the development of mankind
I think this might be a bluff from Ding. That h3 move from the second game has been played 1000 times before, but Ra2 and h4 have only been played by Ding and Rapport. So maybe they planned after this exact game, they would sac the "prep" and pretend it got leaked, so they could confuse team Nepo and play something totally different
Bro was playing in incognito mode
Dude this is mental and now this World Chess Championship is gonna get heavy metal and we gonna witness it.
No way.... Ding Chilling is cheating?!?!?!?!
Edit: I know now that he's not cheating
but
did gotham see my comment????? he posted his one an hour after mine so is it possible???
idk probably not tbh
Nah, the big deal is that Nepo can now look up the matches that Ding was prepping
How is this cheating ?
@@Hussein272 it's not at all cheating, just a mistake
No thats not cheating his secret training for his match where he practice got leaked
Imagine if Ding did this on purpose and used it to trick Nepo
Well we all know those 2 people are the ones from the anonymous accounts😂
The 2nd person is likely to be Rappaport, Ding's second.
This was a Mars versus Saturn training game. Now we know their plans to win against Magnus! 😂😂😂
Bro if you ever need a detective to find out if your wife is cheating, just hire a reddit user!
4chan would do it with a photo of the sky
Close your eyes and imagine that this video is about two people recording their "bedtime escapades" and posing them online to each other.
I refuse to believe that my discipline is Ding cheeting instead of Ding chilling
Now I can brag to all my 4 friends that I know a Chess Conspiracy Theory
Is it cheating to make an account to prep for games? Like what??
No but I think the opponent can view the matches and see their plan
Nah, the big deal is that Nepo can now look up the matches that Ding was prepping
@@ffbear8078 ohhh thank you
@@TheWizardGuy17 how would it be cheating 😂.
Nahh. Those are just games they casually played before sleeping
I always thought redditors are a curse to humanity until now.
This doesn't change my mind
I think this is actually just the chess online screen thing we see on other games, so we can see they’re moves while they play
Holy hell
New response just dropped?
There's only so many strategies in chess. Its not that surprising if another set of professionals end up with the same layout as a previous match.
Oh shiiiiiit
I kind of don't like the idea that Ding wins but is basically also his trainer winning, like it isn't even just Ding winning. I'm sure everyone for the longest time has done this but I like the idea that it's one person rising to the occasion and winning through their own mind alone.
Damn
When a war thunder player plays chess.
This guy is plying this guy
This is like when war thunder players leaked classified military documents to Nerf one of the tanks.
War thunder forum: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
What? It's probably just two robots recreating famous games. As a kid me and my dad used to read the daily chess move in the newspaper every morning and then recreate the move
"This guy is playing this guy" yes very good context
its so obvious, how dull are u
I love how Chess championship turn from nail biting game to Data leak
"This guy played this guy"
"Only ever played each other
War thunder player that leaked classified document: same
We need to update chess asap
Does anyone have this feeling this is a great video and scary type…
Loved the video but felt spooky 👻
?????????
And also the same guys played other very theorical positions, with novelties and stuff...what an amateurism...
Knowing there are more possible chess combinations then atoms in the universe, the chance of this happening is impossible
lets consider how improbable it is for 2 people to make EVERY MOVE EXACTL THE SAME, especially not in a long match like this. the suspicion is crazy
Bros staring at my soul 💀
ding lirens opponent looks like walmart magnus carlsen
New chess opening just dropped: the "Liren-Nepomniachtchi Defense"
Consequences to the world at large: ZERO.
Kramnik: hmmm... Interesting...
U know stuff is serious when levy doesnt blink the entire video
And he sacrifices...
THE DATABASE.
And he sacrifices...
THE PREP!
It'd be amazing if Ding and Rapport set up all those games just to lead team Nepo astray, and come out after everything is over like "In the future, maybe let's not focus so much on the espionage side of chess."
Why is concluded statement presuming "massive consequences for the match"?
this is just straightup not what a data leak is
Somebody on reddit definitely has Nuclear launch codes
It's not only about the same position but the fact that they have only played against each other is sus 😳
Why is it an issue? (genuine question i have no idea why)
@@tanaalyna in chess it's very very rare a same position is repeated....whereas these two accounts repeated the same position multiple times only played against each other... so yeah 👀
Bruh ding used to be one of my favourites but idk what's happening to him anymore people say he is nervous but i haven't seen someone be so nervous ever
Ngl i first heard " There is a massive 'diddy' leak" and i scrolled back to the video.
dayta clear as day not di- annything bro
But what I don’t understand is why this is terrible? Chess player train situation all the time. Was this done mid tournament?
Ding: Reddit, any good plans only weakness
The accounts are from lichess if youre wondering
"this guy is playing this guy and reaches this position"💀💀
This is definitely one of Levy's most serious videos.
Look at the left corner and I thought it was something on my screen ☠️☠️
Chess:getting leaks
Warthunder:first time?