Why won't fletching stick to arrows? (one common mistake)
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Having trouble fletching up your new set of arrows and everything went perfectly fine last year? Here's a possibilty.
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Getting ready to fletch my first dozen arrows in a couple days. Well, as soon as the arrow shafts get here. Watching your videos has made it where I feel confident enough to try it out. My arrows clock left off of both my bows, so I went with an Arizona EZ Fletch Mini Max with a left helical. Because, like you say, why not. Thanks for all the awesome information.
IMO, the easiest vane to get 100% perfect results is the Q2i. The base is so flexible it practically seats itself on the shaft.
I love that laugh ...
... great tip thanks !
I always learn something from the Ranch Fairy.
I used some glue from last year to fletch a dozen arrows this year. Explains the problems I've had. I had a couple fletchings get peeled off when passing through a deer, but they worked fine up until that point at least.
Thanks dude!
Gorilla gell super glue will stick any vane to carbon shafts, but you have to clean the shafts with acetone first.
Thanks for the tip on dating the glue. Yes, I had some old glue , never thinking about it not working. Unfortunately most of the feathers feel off the aluminum arrows. I bought NEW glue and re-fletched the arrows..SUCCESS! It would be nice if you added some guidelines here. Is 6 months too old? etc., etc.
I'm using a bottle of CA glue that I opened 4 years ago!
Never had an issue.
I don't keep it in the fridge, it's just in the box along with my other archery spares kit.
I freeze my glue actually to slow the deterioration from ambient moisture. Another issue is not degreasing and working in too high humidity.
That explains some things. Guess I got a couple bottles that are going to be relegated to the utility drawer for jobs that don't need such quick and strong stick (small wood fills, fixing plastic stuff, etc).
I have always used Flex-Fletch glue. Never kept it in the refrigerator, never worried about how old it is (within reason, months not years) and have never had a problem.
Thats good information.
Primer pens def work on the vanes that need them I’ve tested it and there r several vids out there with testing that def proves it and if anyone doubts glue gets old it does and so does loctite dnt use old loctite there is even exp dates on these things
Thank you
I use 3M 86A adhesion promoter on my AAE and Tac vanes since they are a polyurethane. I tried to get the MSD for the pens but neither company will give it up and when pressed they hang up the phone. At work we use this promoter for exactly the same reason to attach poly to a carbon base. Its available in wipes, cans etc.
If you keep your CA glue in the refrigerator when not in use, whether its open or not, it will stay good much longer. It will still go bad. But it will last at least half again or more longer than not in the fridge. Tim Gillingham told me this at the Iowa Pro-Am several years ago.
So the glue does get old , but the stuff in the a
Pen is a catalyst. It's acetone. I use it on the vane weather it says to or not. It creates a chemical reaction and causes the glue to heat up. As if you were mixing epoxy. Like adding the two parts. If you don't use it , on certain arrows the vanes will most certainly pop off. I use a cue tip
OH Damn. never thought about the age of the glue. Just figured if it runs it's good. Always blamed the application ( not enough) or the fletching ( sanded wrong or not smooth enough , I make my own when I can , good for the ego) Thanks
Brand new to bow hunting. I want to get into bare shaft tuning with adult arrows, but that obviously requires the shafts to be re-fletched. When buying fletchings, is it best to use the "buy once cry once" philosophy or will any old fletchings do? Any recommendations?
I tried the application pen and arrow wraps. Just glue your fletchings right to the arrow. A drop of glue at the tip and the rear and they aren't coming off at all.
I tried the TAC. Vanes. Bought all their stuff. Some of the vane bases were twisted etc so when they were mounted they were angled totally different than other vanes that were normal. Vanes fell off sometimes on the FIRST shot. I’ve been building arrows for years with every vane made I guess and NEVER EVER had issues like this junk. It was an expensive lesson. I have wondered how much trouble Levi has had in getting every vane to stick when he’s building his arrows? Pretty sure we will never know.
In my 27 years of fletching my own arrows I have used all sorts of glue. Saunders NVP Cement is my all time favorite. I won't use anything else if given a choice. I use it for all sorts of stuff other than fletching as well. It will last until you use it up. There is no timeline on it. I will use locktite gel control or green top gorilla glue if I am in a pinch.
I just use cheap tacky glue...works great
Aleene's to be specific.. don't even need a jig either
I use a primer pen. None of my vanes peel up or lift at the ends. Yes glue goes bad after a while.
Can I use 3M primer? Usually I only use Korean 401 super glue and add 3M primer to the vanes so that the vanes adhesion is strong and neat. What I can see is that 3M primer bonds very well to carbon shafts.
Gorilla glue gel works great so does jb weld
Fletch fuse is great too so is goat tuff lol.
But great points because i have not thought of this.
If your glue comes out in clumps.... time to change? I use E6000 from Wally World. Don't use Gorilla glue for feathers. It dissolves the quill! Side hack: I rub string wax on the fletching jig and the excess quill glue won't stick to the jig.
Awesome tip thanks
Titan glue from Wally World is my fav. Works great
I'm 44. I just learned how to boil eggs so they peel easy, now this.
Man I just had this happen over the weekend. Re fletched some arrows and it seemed like 1 fletch on each arrow would start to come loose. I went that night and got a new tube of glue and did 6 more arrows with the new and haven’t had any problems since.
Glad I could help
I just seen FOB came out with a new style of "fletching" and came here to see if you have tested it and given your opinions on it yet. If you have the time to give us your opinion on them it would be appreciated.
Ok....IF
I haven't fletched in a while but I prefer using gel "super"glue that won't run down and glue the fletching "and" arrow shaft to the fletching jig....🏹🤠👍
Sounds like you use too much glue….
Me: "I bought this glue in 2019. It's been in the fridge the whole time and I sealed the top good.should still work."
Also me: "Who else besides a proshop could ever use this much glue before it goes bad?"
This isn’t a glue related question Mr. Fairy, but can I nock tune using a spine tester to find the stiff side of my arrow? I shoot a reflex/deflex trad bow at 55#. Thank you.
You can find the spine but thats not knock tuning....dont waste your money on the spine tester if your going to knock tune....that spine machine is a big waste of money
Mr Jordan is correct.
If you ram test them. They are all "stiff".
Ok.....
But does your bow shoot the best in that position ? Put in the work or have half assed results.
The set will at least be consistent. But not the best.
Have you seen my traditional bare shaft video?
That's the way to do it.
Don’t store your glue in the fridge…. It expires and expires faster the more adverse the conditions.
Bad glue doesn't explain why you can have one vane stick and the very next refuse to cooperate. Theres more going on there and I've found prepping certain vanes with solvents prevents this. I think what is really happening is that the vanes either have a mold release agent, or are leaching plasticizers, or you maybe you rubber your greasy nose and then touched the vane.... .....something is different and causes inconsistent results. Prepping the vane withers acetone or alcohol removes whatever crud is on the vane.
Is old glue less gooders? Absolutely. Is it the only thing causing vanes to fall off or not stick? I dont think it's that simple.
This has been my experience with older glue and I KNOW the glue I was talking about was in a refrigerator for 6 months.
I ALSO KNOW it worked about 75%. So you may be right.
Three or four fletch???
See my 4 fletch video. BUT IF YOU DON"T BARE SHAFT and nock tune.....19 fletch is best.
@@RanchFairy Roger that’s fine sir. Thank you for the content and support behind it instead of a bunch of opinions
I find I'm loosing some of my grip as well.... so maybe its not just glue that looses its grip with age....? 😳🤣😂
Explain this to me. I purchased some 2 inch Blazer vanes. I went to fletch some arrows and the vanes were not adhering to the shaft. Come to find out they were expired. I wasn't aware vanes had an expiration date?
The Ranch Fairy on Meat Eater! Nice to him getting more attention .
Some stupid activists in Germany glue themselve on the street. So maybe they can use our old glue 😂
Was not aware of this fact. Will put the date on the glue now. Thanks!
Yo its all super glue.
Keep calm grab your recurve and bow hunt on! However, you will do a lot better if take advice from the Ranch Fairy 🧚♀️🏹🦌🏹🦃🏹🦌🏹🦃🏹🦌🏹🦃😎
Squeeze the air out.
You don't know much about fletching glue...there are lots of arrow and fletching glue and vane combinations that just won't stick...I don't care how new your glue is...not one glue works on all vanes and arrows
You helped everyone learn this. You also assume most people know this.
They don't. But the glue I use, on my arrows, in my example, historically have worked fine. Trust me brotha I've got tons of arrows.
"He breaks a lot of things".....
@@RanchFairy I know you know....its all the others I worry bout
Heaven forbid Troy is human he makes mistakes no tell me it isn't so😂