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  • @k.c.m5366
    @k.c.m5366 4 роки тому +132

    Last year I was a total loser with poor arrow flight and a non existent sex life. Now after following RF’s guidance, I get perfect arrow flight, bust through scapulas, make better money at work, and consistently land smokeshows. Thanks RF!!!!

  • @cattman2012ify
    @cattman2012ify 4 роки тому +33

    Took my time with the ranch fairy youtube videos and taken everything in on building my 570 grain arrow with the magnus broadhead, I've taken 2 does and 1 buck with the SAME ARROW and BROADHEAD all I've done everytime is sharpen up the blade. Blowing through each one sticking in the dirt at least 6 inches. THANK YOU RANCH FAIRY!!!!!!

  • @benathens3294
    @benathens3294 4 роки тому +20

    So I built some 650 grain Adult arrows. Now my target doesn't stop them! WTH ? Lol

  • @whunt5533
    @whunt5533 4 роки тому +7

    Fairy!!!!!!!!! I love the fact you are strait up commonsense yet you still use science. Strait gold brother.

  • @Dark30Outdoors
    @Dark30Outdoors 3 роки тому +5

    Need a shirt with a circle and line crossing out with the words Twizzlers and flappers!! 👍

  • @jack6136
    @jack6136 Рік тому +1

    1) if you are not interested in the obvious as to archery 🏹 you should consider doing something else. 2) The Ranch Fairy 🧚‍♀️ is correct far more often than not which is frustrating to folk who are accustomed to being WRONG 😮!
    3) Should you purchase a.30-06 that doesn’t have rifling………….😳 you have been scammed and I have the Verrazano bridge that I think you should purchase. It leads to Staten Island and it’s convenient . I will give a really good deal! $$$$$$$$😮😮😮😮

  • @richarddean3154
    @richarddean3154 4 роки тому +6

    A hundred years ago, I was in the Army. We used "adult" projectiles like the Armor-Piercing, Fin- STABILIZED, Discarding Sabot - Tracer. We were instructed that once a projectile's length exceeds its diameter by a certain amount, rifling is less effective than something akin to fletching (fins). Arrows are spin-stabilized more effectively by helical fletching than straight fletching. "Spin-Stabilized" might make a good t-shirt. Thank you for your great content

  • @PostalBound
    @PostalBound 4 роки тому +5

    Slogan for merch: "Ask me about Adult Arrows"

  • @randyhelgeson1254
    @randyhelgeson1254 2 роки тому +1

    Smooth bore guns would just ruin every James bond movie.

  • @colfaxmingo
    @colfaxmingo 4 роки тому +5

    Trust the fairy wisdom! After so many arrow builds, I indexed, tuned, & used helical feathers this season. Best arrows I've ever made, field point or Cutthroat! Thanks Ranch!!

  • @bobalotb6760
    @bobalotb6760 4 роки тому +4

    Plz make more vids Ranch.. The dust is strong..

  • @jasonwandling4203
    @jasonwandling4203 4 роки тому +5

    I switched to a 3” parabolic right wing this year. I used a straight clamp with a 3 degree (I think) offset. They are flying great. I did notice that a couple of the arrows in my set spin way more than the others. The arrows that spin more always group tighter together than the other 5-6 arrows in the batch.

    • @Bartimusblue27
      @Bartimusblue27 2 роки тому

      What’s happening is that the arrows that spin faster off your bow want to spin in that direction, the others are trying to go the other way, causing them to stall off the bow.
      Take one and mirror your fletch job on it, ill bet it will fly like the others.
      It works for me, i try to determine spin when knock tuning, and i dont give a 💩 about matching left/right wing to bevel and everything flies great.

  • @fluffy3600
    @fluffy3600 3 роки тому +4

    Followed the RF process for a set of six crossbow bolts. 540 grains, 25% FOC, & hand sharpened Magnus Black Hornets and Buzz Cut Stingers. Have shot one buck and four does (Tennessee and Illinois). Complete pass throughs except for one doe. Doe was quartering to me and I aimed at the "vital V". As I shot, she spun toward me and dropped, the bolt hit her in the neck, went completely across her body and almost exited on the opposite side by her rear ham. Found the bolt on the ground about 25 yards from where I shot her and found her piled up 25 yards from there. A plan "B" bolt that did its job! Absolutely impressed with the bolts, arrow flight, penetration, and the broadheads. Adult arrows aren't just for compounds or recurves.

    • @jordanbrillowski2571
      @jordanbrillowski2571 3 роки тому

      How much weight do you have up front with the broadhead and insert/outsert?

    • @fluffy3600
      @fluffy3600 3 роки тому +1

      @@jordanbrillowski2571 335 Grains: 200 Grain Ethics Archery Insert + 125 Grain Magnus Black Hornet or 185 Grain Ethics Archery Insert + 150 Grain Magnus Stinger Buzzcut. I took the 200 Grain inserts and used a shop grinder to grind off 15 Grains of material to make the 185 Grain inserts. With COVID-19, I was having a hard time finding broadheads and was only able to get a few of the Black Hornets and Stinger Buzzcuts, so I set up six bolts for the Black Hornets and six for the Stinger Buzzcuts. Because both combos are 335 Grains up front and each arrow was tuned using the RF method, I can shoot either broadhead and don't have to make any adjustment to my scope. Below is my current set up:
      Excalibur Matrix 380
      Black Eagle Executioner Bolts (18" Long @ 9.1 GPI)
      Ethics Archery Clean Cut Adjustable Static Inserts (.300) - These have "cut notches", so you can cut & grind to weight needed
      Lumenok "GTF" (28 Grains Each)
      2.1" Q2i Fusion II Vanes (3 Vanes @ 7.5 Grains Each)
      Used AAE Epoxy for the Inserts and Loctite Gel Control Super Glue for the Vanes

  • @regularguy8110
    @regularguy8110 3 роки тому +3

    Great video. Only reason U.S. Army tanks use fin stabilized rounds with a smooth bore cannon is because at stupid fast meters per second the rifling gets worn out quickly. Precision weapons spin projectiles for accuracy.

  • @jameshagerman7681
    @jameshagerman7681 3 роки тому +4

    I've tried for years to tell my compound friends that helical helps. I run 4 fletch right helical for my hunting arrows and 3 fletch helical for my target rigs. Started using the 2.5 inch bohning heat vanes this year after using blazers or duravanes my entire time shooting. Really liking them so far and they are much quieter than the blazers.

  • @travisg.6315
    @travisg.6315 4 роки тому +3

    I whacked my biggest buck to date 2 days ago with my new RF Apollos, 590 grains blasted thru both ribs and the heart at 45 yards

  • @neotoxo54
    @neotoxo54 4 роки тому +3

    PET PEEVE...If you say something enough times (though it be incorrect) people will begin to think it is fact.
    The archer's paradox is the phenomenon of an arrow traveling in the direction it is pointed at full draw, when it seems that the arrow would have to pass through the starting position it was in before being drawn, where it was pointed to the side of the target.
    The bending of the arrow when released is the explanation for why the paradox occurs and should not be confused with the paradox itself.

    • @goldmountain6520
      @goldmountain6520 4 роки тому

      Watch Byron Ferguson on smarter everyday. This explanation looks like it came from Wikipedia and is very wordy.

  • @MrAPCProductions
    @MrAPCProductions 4 роки тому +4

    Is it right fletching for right hand single bevel?

  • @dennispalmer8622
    @dennispalmer8622 4 роки тому +4

    I know I'm old but am I blind? Where can we get the cool shirts and hoodies? Thanks!

    • @reformeddaddy
      @reformeddaddy 4 роки тому

      Should be right below the comment section if you are using a phone

    • @jonbhorton
      @jonbhorton 4 роки тому +2

      Dang it. Now I gotta spend more money. I’ll go with the Fairy hoodie to piss off the archery bros and confuse the uninitiated.

  • @Jonathonwho
    @Jonathonwho 4 роки тому +3

    I was actually picking my nose... busted!

  • @stick__shooter
    @stick__shooter 4 роки тому +2

    I shot groups at 60 yards using a 200 grain cutthroat comparing a very slight helical to a heavy helical from a EZ Fletch Mini Max using 3” Q2i Griff-X vanes and the heavy helical won hands down. Best 6 arrow group was 3.5” at 60 yards.
    525 grains 18.5% FOC

  • @MrBowNaxe
    @MrBowNaxe 3 роки тому +3

    Preach brother! The true believers are listening.

  • @AliceWilson-w9m
    @AliceWilson-w9m 2 дні тому

    Spin equals stability in flight. Probably also leads to slightly less arrow drop over distance. A non rotating arrow will drop sooner than a rotating one.

  • @Statureman
    @Statureman 4 роки тому +3

    Having been out of the bow shooting game for a while im surprised anyone would shoot straight. Helical was a given in 2000 when I got my bow.

    • @MiaogisTeas
      @MiaogisTeas 3 роки тому +1

      And has been for the past 2000+ years. Just another example of arrogant modern humans fixing somethin that wasn't broken

  • @moneyandtimefreedom3352
    @moneyandtimefreedom3352 4 роки тому +2

    I love the shop videos trying to justify the things they sell that go against common sense and science, all because of the RF videos. A few are getting on board but we need more. Almost every archery video nowadays shows arrows getting poor penetration. It’s a shame that more are not realizing that they need to change what they are doing.

  • @jasonard7227
    @jasonard7227 4 роки тому +3

    dropping truth bombs as always

  • @JohnNeedham-zk5ms
    @JohnNeedham-zk5ms 9 місяців тому +1

    I like how he dumbs down dynamic spine and doesn’t say if your string twist this way it will automatically spin the arrow that way cause I thought u could take to the bank but not the case

  • @timtraub8444
    @timtraub8444 Місяць тому

    Hey Ranch Fairy, I followed your guide for arrow setup on THP channel...what would you recommend for helicle degrees and or offset degrees?
    Im shooting 300 spine gold tip arrows with 2 inch raptor vane
    I believe the stock setup looks like straight with 3 degree offset

  • @jake4194
    @jake4194 3 роки тому +1

    Man I bought a bunch of these Chinese arrows with the nicest looking feather fletching, turns out when I open the box they had no helical what so ever. They fly like absolute garbage, super disappointed...

  • @emorse912
    @emorse912 2 роки тому

    My QAD Exodus broadheads hit 5inches left of target everytime. Is it because I have stock children arrows with straight 3 blade fletchings?? 😆😞
    Seriously though, my bow has been micro tuned and I'm money at 40yds with field points but my $420 rth Bear Legit can't be tuned anymore. I'll try helical 4 fletched adult arrows!

  • @mwallace6540
    @mwallace6540 Рік тому

    I have some 2219 Easton aluminum shafts and want to try to make some 16.5” quills for my Micro Mag 340. I have feathers left over from my vertical bow days..arrow building. They are longer than the plastic Blazers that are on the factory BEE quills. Does it matter how long the feathers are..the length that runs along the shaft?

  • @MikeyWoomer
    @MikeyWoomer 4 роки тому +1

    I saw a video here a month or so ago. They tested the left ve right. There wasn't much difference. But was alittle. There is a hesitation to your arrows that spin left with a right helical. I think it made my arrow speed faster with a 3 vane hard left helical with a left spinning arrow. And if your bow sting is spun to the left it spins left if its spun right it goes right.. it's not going go change much. If you hit the vital V doesn't matter what way the arrows spinning its game over

  • @TheManic.5-OH
    @TheManic.5-OH 11 місяців тому

    Helical only makes sense. If you've ever shot an arrow with a straight blazer vane, after about 20 or so shots, you'll notice the fletchings trying to form themselves with a helical(probably a right twist) on their own 🤷🏽‍♂️ it doesn't take a genius to look at this and think 'if I just give it what it wants, it will give me what I want' I just don't understand what's so hard to understand for some here

  • @MikeyWoomer
    @MikeyWoomer 4 роки тому +1

    My bow shoots a bare shaft with no vanes to the left. I put a hard left helical on my arrows and wiw look out. They fly so smoth and fast at 550 grains its freakin crazy

  • @HoneyBeagle
    @HoneyBeagle Рік тому +1

    This is a great video! Answered my curiosity about fletchings. I’ve always just shot straight fletch bow shop arrows. I’m gonna build a set of adult arrows this year and wanted to know whether it mattered how to fletch them. 🌠 the more you know….

  • @TheK2008
    @TheK2008 4 роки тому +1

    But Troy. The Mechanicals fly like field points! That's what the box says...with fine print (in a vacuum). 😜

  • @brandonjohnson5338
    @brandonjohnson5338 4 роки тому +2

    Added Helical to my arrows this year after the tuning process. Best flight and groupings I’ve ever had. It works! Oh and picked up one of your shirts. Good stuff!

    • @B_A_Images
      @B_A_Images 3 роки тому

      Do you also offset fletching when using a helical set up (clamp)? If so which way? Bow spins left, I tried a left helical straight and with left offset. The left offset helical seems to knuckle ball.

  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 4 роки тому +1

    35 years ago when I was shooting a recurve, I was told to do Straight Fletch because if you had helical.... The deer would hear the Arrow coming! How stupid is that? They going to hear your string slap on the recurve but hopefully it's too late for him to vacate😁

  • @samivey8416
    @samivey8416 4 роки тому +1

    From the trad gear of selfbows to laminated bows to compound bows I've shot right helical to offset and killed rabbits and squirrels to deer . Just make sure it's leading point is glued down. Stuck in the hand sucks

  • @danmarzano4180
    @danmarzano4180 4 роки тому +1

    Paradox with a bow shot with a mechanical release will be on a vertical plane, shot with fingers it will be on a horizontal plane and much more influence on the arrow!

  • @JasonW479
    @JasonW479 4 роки тому +2

    Ranch Fairy nation 🤘🏻

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 3 роки тому +1

    Fred Bear described helical as a curl in the fletching. Another wonderful side affect is a thicker profile of the fletching from the rear, giving the shooter a better chance at following the path of the arrow as it travels to the target. I use the EZ fletch fletcher (glues 3 feathers at the same time) 4 degree offset with 4 inch feathers. Fluorescent chartreuse is highly visible even in low light. White, or yellow is also good, but nothing beats fluorescent chartreuse in my testing. Keep rockin it Troy. Hopefully more lethal converts to come.

  • @greekmaster1001
    @greekmaster1001 4 роки тому +1

    I own 6 bows and three of them have the ezv.
    I love them.
    Can you make another video on how to visualize on what you would be aiming.
    I seen plenty videos but yours I understand better

  • @richardwooten7657
    @richardwooten7657 3 роки тому

    BOTTOM LINE ..................... YOU NEEED A ARROW B A R R E L !

  • @WillKarst
    @WillKarst 2 роки тому +1

    @9:25 I was literally picking my nose. 😆

  • @yourmomma2995
    @yourmomma2995 2 роки тому

    i didnt even know that people shoot straight fletch, assumed it was common sense.

  • @inthemountainswithmeachum3256
    @inthemountainswithmeachum3256 4 роки тому +1

    The problem with Helical feltchings making your arrows spin faster Is that it greatly reduces the energy of that arrow going down Range.
    That is a scientific proven fact. There is a channel on UA-cam where a man goes into unbelievably great detail in death with all sorts of single bevel broadheads with all different types of fletchings and Helicals.
    Your better off with just Street fletchings with real feathers that are either A right feather or a left feather which is the same A left helical or a right helical. Really the only difference is that a straight right wing feather fletching will still spin your arrow to the right just maybe one rotation every 50' or whatever it works out to be as opposed to a 1/2 a dozen times in the same distance.
    The more your arrow rotates the more energy your arrow loses.
    With every video you have made Troy using straight helicals Showing people how to nock tune Or find the correct spine for their arrow Show that you get your arrow flying like a laser beam.
    Why worry about Right or left helical.
    Another fact is that arrows naturally spin to the left twice as much in twice as fast as they do to the right. Especially is matched with a left single bevel broadhead.
    But that mans video also proved that running a left helical fletching in using a right single bevel broadhead did not affect the arrow or the accuracy at all.
    But again it's in energy dump and loss when that right single bevel broadhead hits the target in stops the left rotation to start a right rotation because of the broadhead.
    Helical fletchings are a waste of time.

    • @BrotherWind
      @BrotherWind 4 роки тому +1

      Actually, my bareshaft rotated to the right, clockwise, naturally due to the fact that I build my strings with a counterclockwise twist and serving layup.
      And the amount of energy dump you get from a spinning arrow is likely negligible when compared to any torque induced or erratic arrow flight hitting a target sideways. Remember, #1 on Ashby’s list is arrow flight.

  • @that_one_guy117x
    @that_one_guy117x 3 роки тому +1

    I remember a video you did where you said if you properly tune your arrows you don’t need a helical fletch 😂 and I was thinking well I’m screwed I can’t tune my arrows that good so I went helical!

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому

      Well yes and no. But as I research around - helical helps where as straight fletch is more sketch.
      Now - FEATHERS are bent - even straight fletched - vanes are not

  • @coreystoner4129
    @coreystoner4129 4 роки тому +1

    The way I have my bow tuned is we did the paper tune then went and tried a few different arrows to see which one the bow liked and we settled of the Easton axis spt 5mm with a 50 grain outsert and those arrows fly straight and they did very well on a doe I shot.

  • @davidstonkus3288
    @davidstonkus3288 4 роки тому +1

    Another cool video. Have you tried/ experimented with NAP's Quik spin vanes?These have a small ridge on one side of the edge of the vane. Unfortunately we in the crossbow community are very limited in the amount of helical we can put on our projectiles.

    • @tygoulding2547
      @tygoulding2547 10 місяців тому

      Yes they’re garbage. Great for a year, and they do spin really well. But give it a year and they fall apart. Never had less durable fletchings.

  • @ericwiitala5407
    @ericwiitala5407 4 роки тому +1

    Most educational content on arrow physics. Started my process the end of the summer, was able to add 50 gr and increase my FOC a little... This year will be the year of the "Process". We'll see what happens and what I end up with. 🏹

  • @timl8302
    @timl8302 Рік тому

    Then there is 'gyroscopic stability.' Rocket man knows about it. Oh, from what I've seen on slow-mo videos. Finger shooting paradox is horizontal & release shooting's paradox is usually vertical.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  Рік тому

      Yep - more to come. Little bits of genius at a time

  • @albeyalbert5937
    @albeyalbert5937 4 роки тому +1

    I thought you ran a straight fletch with right winged feathers?? Tried something new?

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  4 роки тому +1

      Shhhh -

    • @chriscrites3913
      @chriscrites3913 4 роки тому

      @@RanchFairy I think I remember in an earlier video you mentioned Ashby recommending straight fletch with a single bevel so that the broadhead bites and begins rotating at impact. Thoughts on helical with single bevels?

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  4 роки тому +1

      @@chriscrites3913 seriously - it’s in the video

  • @MagVair
    @MagVair Місяць тому

    Troy!?
    I wanna know, how you know, I'm picking my nose....? 😮
    😂😅😂

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  Місяць тому

      @@MagVair maybe it’s not just your nose!!!
      🙃

  • @bobbyb7127
    @bobbyb7127 2 роки тому

    but straight offset has spin, just probably not as much as helical. just wondering if straight offset is as accurate as helical, say within 20 yards using field points. I have the bletzenburger helical and thinking about getting the straight jig but hate wasting money. lol

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  2 роки тому

      Bare shaft the arrows
      Then nock tune
      That solves it all

  • @Jay-nm8kt
    @Jay-nm8kt 9 місяців тому

    RF as a fisherman would you compare fletching to a driftsock on a fishing boat?

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  9 місяців тому

      Not in any way possible.
      Fletch is a 360 degree lifting device.

  • @ixamraxi
    @ixamraxi 2 роки тому

    I was under the impression that the reason people went away from helicals was because its generally unnecessary. They say a helical tends to hide poor bow tuning, and doesn't make significant difference in groupings at shorter distances. I believe you lose arrow velocity, but most argue its not significant enough to ignore the increased accuracy at longer ranges provided by helicals. But, since most shots in bowhunting are made at less than 30 yards, the benefit is minimal in majority of cases, and given a well tuned modern bow can do tight groupings of straight fletched arrows at 60+ yards, helical fletching wouldn't really improve a good hunters ability to bring home meat.
    Granted, helical fletching can improve accuracy, especially at longer distances, but some would argue that it does so by compensating for poor form, or compensating for poor tuning, in which case straight fletching will better inform an archer that something is wrong with him or his bow, and they can focus on fixing that instead. One could argue that a person with proper form and well tuned bow would, by that logic, only benefit from a helical, but the response would be that there isn't a practical shot in hunting where that specific hunter couldn't make the same shot with a straight shaft arrow but could have with a helical, again making helicals unnecessary, but they might use helicals anyways because at that point there's no reason for them not to.
    The point: use straight fletching when practicing/training, and use helicals when on an actual hunt. That way the straight shaft arrows force you to focus more on form and tuning while practicing, but then you still get any potential benefit of helicals when actually hunting.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  2 роки тому

      Uh - no.
      Aerodynamically a rolling projectile is more consistent .
      Guess we shoot a shot gun for rifle practice?
      The vibe in the archery community and the message boards is so strongly in favor of “new technology fixes physics”
      Bows do one thing -
      Return to static state.
      Launch a projectile - after the projectile leaves - there’s a whole “old school” set of variables that happen
      This happens despite the launcher.

  • @ramananatua4469
    @ramananatua4469 10 місяців тому

    Thanks m'en iaorana oe fom Tahiti

  • @richardwooten7657
    @richardwooten7657 3 роки тому

    EVERYONE HAS VOMIT MUSIC ON THEIR VIDS !? IM THE ONLY ONE THATS NOT CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому

      START A CHANNEL AND SHOW US HOW !!!!

  • @mr.skeptical3071
    @mr.skeptical3071 Рік тому

    Can you use a right helical vane set up on a "left"/ counter clockwise bow? Most shots will be under 22 yards

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  Рік тому

      99% of people been doing it forever.

  • @tonyviers-de9qi
    @tonyviers-de9qi Рік тому

    I thought the same thing, and I still like it out to about 30yards , though i really cant tell a difference in accuracy. However, shooting in back yard out past about 75-80 and especially when you get to 100+ , I would never run helical. It slows the arrow down too much and kills accuracy. What I would suggest is do it . Its fun to tinker and find how everything works for you. But when it gets to season, be ready with what you KNOW works. Don’t experiment on a live quiver. Unless it’s a coyote…. Then all bets are off.

  • @stevenleeragland7443
    @stevenleeragland7443 Рік тому

    Hey, R.F. I'M switching to Adult Arrows. 29.5 " draw , 300 spine Gold Tip Pro Hunters, 125 grn.Magnus Buzz Cut Broadheads,65# draw wt. I would like to shoot 550 grn. Total wt. Arrows....#1 , I shoot left handed due to my dominant eye being my left( been doing this for 20 yrs. ) I want to shoot helacle fethers. Do I shoot left or right helacle and,is hard better that soft helacle ? #2, If I shoot three feathers, should I alligne my broadhead With my COCK feather or, a three blade broadhead alligned with my three feathers 🪶 ?

  • @labtrainer09
    @labtrainer09 6 місяців тому

    Hey, Troy. Thank you for another helpful, no-nonsense video. One question: In an older session called "Feathers vs Vanes for Bowhunting," you recommended straight (non-helical) vanes (and feathers) for hunters using single-bevel, two-bladed broadheads. You cited Dr. Ashby's contention that AFTER IMPACT, such a broadhead will rotate more, causing more damage, when the shaft on which it's mounted is rotating minimally BEFORE IMPACT. As a result, you said that you always shot arrows with non-helical fletching.
    Here , three years later, you note that you always use helical fletching. Does that represent a change in your thinking, or are you referring to the hunts where you DON'T use single-bevel, two-bladed broadheads? Or have I maybe misinterpreted what you said in both videos (entirely possible). All the best, Chris (in Maine)

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  6 місяців тому

      Yeah, good point. So feathers are bent by God. Literally on the bird so when they try to fly the wings don't turn inside out. So they are "helical" even set straight. I put them
      as straight as possible...... on a helical jig.
      Which sounds WEIRD. But they are 2" long so I bet they aren't over 1.5 degree "helical" because on the back of the jig the helical begins. If they were 4" feathers...oh, they'd be helical!
      So no change. Just using what I have and is common for 95% of people with a jig.
      I DON"T INTENTIONALLY make them helical...I guess that's the best answer.

    • @labtrainer09
      @labtrainer09 6 місяців тому

      Thanks, Troy. Believe it or not, your explanation makes perfect sense to me. Hah.

  • @johnschmit9903
    @johnschmit9903 4 роки тому +5

    More great information!! Finally got to use my adult arrows 593 grains, on my first doe 20 yards talk about crazy I thought I missed, nope she went maybe 70 yards and fell over. Can't say thanks enough what a game changer!! 👏👏👏

    • @frag1313
      @frag1313 4 роки тому +1

      I’ve seen many videos from this years public hunters thinking they missed and when slowed down, the pass through was that fast. Can’t wait to get mine setup this week

    • @johnschmit9903
      @johnschmit9903 4 роки тому +1

      @@frag1313 it does take alot of time to set up but well worth the wait!!! I use the Black hornet ser razor's 100 grains . Broke the one rib on one side and cracked the other one on the other side. Good luck with your setup!!👍

    • @frag1313
      @frag1313 4 роки тому +1

      @@johnschmit9903 thanks man and this setup seems to be passing through everything it touches

  • @filprocter7318
    @filprocter7318 4 роки тому

    Ive learned alot in the last few years watchin your vids. Thanks..i even keep watchin through your sarcasm. Lol...but the visor?? IDK maybe i watched too much Carlin in my younger days.lol..no seriously the 200 lbs buck walked under my tree straight away from me wouldn't turn wouldn't turn finally put on his r hip at 30 yrds 648gn arrow exits in front of L front shoulda..wow thanx again!

  • @josephgilliand4
    @josephgilliand4 2 роки тому

    If your fletchings make your arrow spin, that big deal "straightness" stat on the shaft is totally irrelevant. An arrow as bent as a banana will spin a spiral path that's perfectly straight!

  • @l-a-r-k-y-y6048
    @l-a-r-k-y-y6048 Рік тому

    Mini max helical to much? Create parachuting?

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  Рік тому

      We found 5+ degree was not as stable

  • @wesodegaard1434
    @wesodegaard1434 4 роки тому

    Hmmmm....Sirius Batman arrows??? Interesting...nice intro update too. You’ve taught me well to notice the details. Thanks for the insight.

  • @jtc1947
    @jtc1947 3 роки тому

    Excuse pls but where get HELL-A CULL? I have been around archery for many years have always heard it as HEE-LY-CAL??

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому

      “SUTHERN”
      Not South-ern

    • @jtc1947
      @jtc1947 3 роки тому

      @@RanchFairy BRED/BORN/Reared in ALABAMA. Ain't never heard no hell-a-cull before. OH WELL! To each his own.

  • @trimmin420
    @trimmin420 2 роки тому

    left or right helical and how to know which one is best for me?

  • @negao360
    @negao360 3 роки тому

    How’s your brother, Ryan Reynolds, doing these days?

  • @jimbrink979
    @jimbrink979 4 роки тому

    Doesn't Dr. Ashby recommend straight fletch?

  • @VINLAND_FXB
    @VINLAND_FXB 3 роки тому

    Well thats awkward. I was actually bored and picking my nose when he said it hahahaha

  • @jhuntley575
    @jhuntley575 4 роки тому

    Some people dont take into account the nature spin of thier arrow. When you shoot a bare shaft does it spin left or does it spin right? This should determine if you use left or right fletch. The way your string is twisted and the way the serving cross hatches that twist will determine a natural spin either left or right. If you put a right fletch on a left spinning arrow it will start out spinning left then slowly start spinning to the right not idea for " perfect arrow flight " edit I just noticed RF addressed this. I understand its minimal and more something target archers think about. But it bugs me and I just assume buy a string that twists clockwise and makes the arrow spin right to go along with my right fletch.

  • @BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA
    @BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA 4 роки тому

    Like 667... 🙌🏽😂

  • @eric8851
    @eric8851 2 роки тому

    Heavier longer bullets require a tighter twist rate to stabilize them so it only makes sense.

  • @Jmaypointer
    @Jmaypointer 3 роки тому

    your sound is horribly low. almost unlistenable.

  • @puckerbutton7025
    @puckerbutton7025 2 роки тому

    proven fact that spinning objects are more stable in flight vs non spinning objects

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  2 роки тому

      Knuckleballs are interesting -

    • @puckerbutton7025
      @puckerbutton7025 2 роки тому

      if you throw a baseball at the right speed with just a tiny bit of spin, the ball-and its famous red seams-rotates only slightly. This small rotation of the seams causes the ball to lose its stable lift. When the lift becomes unsteady, the ball lurches around seemingly random which is why they are so hard to hit

  • @flushot6513
    @flushot6513 4 роки тому

    512 grain arrow with 200 grain vpa and like 21% I believe foc

  • @teamflanneloutdoors5631
    @teamflanneloutdoors5631 4 роки тому

    @ #ranchfairynation 💡
    I was honestly contemplating this subject yesterday whilst setting my pins to my new higher FOC shafts with 2 degree right wing helical with 3" feathers.
    your timing is impeccable👌 @ #keepcalmandshootadultarrows

  • @huntingluciferblack9265
    @huntingluciferblack9265 3 роки тому

    Try the ozcut hurricane . It's a 3 blade single bevel with offset . They fly bloody awesome .

  • @andrewfouse7161
    @andrewfouse7161 4 роки тому

    What’s the deal with the EZ Button arrows? You referenced more on that later, maybe that was later as in not this video??

  • @Mikyll1969
    @Mikyll1969 3 роки тому

    someday...when I grow up... I wanna hang and hunt with RF

  • @GrizzAxxemann
    @GrizzAxxemann 4 роки тому

    360p potatovision hurts my eyes. But the info was great!

  • @ryanr6656
    @ryanr6656 3 роки тому

    how'd you know i was picking my nose?

  • @leveraction767
    @leveraction767 3 роки тому

    Good video. Pretty much common knowledge but then again.... Much knowledge has been lost. Bares repeating at times.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому +1

      You're funny. If I hadn't received less than 300 messages about this in the last 6 months.....that makes you wonder how may didn't ask.
      bend your fletching!

  • @Goblueticken
    @Goblueticken 4 роки тому

    I even put a blazer vain on with a right heliacal and it won hands down. It put a good spin to the Magnus as suffer 3 blade head.

  • @-10ranch
    @-10ranch 3 роки тому

    Does a helical fletching create more sound as the arrow flies? Also, with the drag of helical fletching can it be shot through a DikDik Bow?

  • @MrADjam5
    @MrADjam5 4 роки тому

    I expected to see wings on the back of your Ranch Fairy shirts. Good info here. Love your vids. Hunt safe.

  • @jcarry5214
    @jcarry5214 2 роки тому

    I just fletched an arrow for the first time. I put four 3 inch feathers on at 4 degrees. Laser. Goes wherever my eyes are. I'd gotten used to some erratic wobble and assumed it was my release every time (stickbow). Well now the thing is like its on a wire and it hits the middle of the middle of my groups. I've gone back to bare shaft 3 times and tightened my groups up by being just neurotic. My arrows were 3x4" at 1 to 3 degrees and I was a resigning myself to a life of knuckleballing and thinking it was the tips needing to be filed or my cranky old bow. My big clue was I ripped off a whole fletch from one arrow in the elk woods and it still shot in the group. Same every-third-time corkscrew. Broadheads (single bevel right) actually helped that set.
    I love learning but it's embarrassing when it takes way too long to listen to the obvious, to acknowledge the gut feeling. And to watch Troy effin Fowler's thoughts on the matter.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  2 роки тому

      Here is your next evolution!!!! With a stickbow.
      ua-cam.com/video/qFx7sZYt7k0/v-deo.html

  • @ZoeStar100
    @ZoeStar100 4 роки тому

    It would make sense that as the shaft turns more, the blade end is equalizing any “untrue” effect vs simply planing from the front wings. Any clocking and once an object is in motion, it tends to stay in motion, I think I would opt for the faster spin. Peyton Manning wobble pass would not be my choice over a tight spiral.

  • @bobalotb6760
    @bobalotb6760 4 роки тому

    Ranch whats the max size tear you should be seeing while nock tuning? 2-3"?

  • @bobbycampbell175
    @bobbycampbell175 4 роки тому

    Thank for your help in the past my arrows fly like a dart 534 grain and bulls eye at 85 yrds 220 speed

  • @jeffj3686
    @jeffj3686 3 роки тому

    So will adult arrows work out of the hickery creek mini inline vertical crossbow? I made the switch to the crossbow because of an elbow issue. The mini has an arrow rest and shoots basically regular arrows they are just cut to 23 inches....thoughts, suggestions.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому

      Search ranch fairy crossbow - dragging deer channel

  • @tradarcher8714
    @tradarcher8714 3 роки тому

    Rifled barrels and bullets are a poor comparison to helical fletching and arrows, not even close to the same concept.
    Unlike a bullet fired from a rifle the spin of an arrow has little impact on its accuracy especially when we take into consideration the distance arrows are typically shot from. The spinning motion of helical fletching also robs some of the arrows energy which in turns effects its overall performance, trajectory etc. traditional bow hunters magazine had a great article discussing this topic titled making the case for straight fletching
    It’s more of a personal preference and thought process than factual as are most archery related topics.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому +1

      Correct - more to come on this. Gravity, yaw, bending, and other stuff that is all crazy - but factual.

  • @jons7e
    @jons7e 3 роки тому

    good video ... left or right helical? how much helical? would be interesting to see at distances what happens to speed at impact with some variations. Heck, bare shaft at 20 yards.... it should be like a dart.

    • @RanchFairy
      @RanchFairy  3 роки тому

      It’s on my channel!!
      ua-cam.com/video/CwAVbO1915I/v-deo.html

  • @wormtownmedic
    @wormtownmedic 4 роки тому

    I went with your old suggestion for straight fletch right wing feathers and right bevel broad-head. So far so good. I've got a 783 grain Sirius Vulcan with 375 up front (18% FOC) that'll be hitting the woods.

  • @welderoo
    @welderoo 3 роки тому

    90 % clocking is to the left due to the direction the serving is wrapped around your string is industry wide the same for most manufacturers

  • @tomharrell1954
    @tomharrell1954 3 роки тому

    I like the idea of spinning arrows!
    But the riflings in a rifle is not a good analogy. The riflings spin the bullet from the start. The arrows stabilize then spin.
    They are probably 20 feet down range by the time they start spinning. This is fine but more spin would be better. Think I will make a real spinner and see what happens

    • @cruzmissile25
      @cruzmissile25 3 роки тому

      Would have to disagree with your 20ft claim. Check out slow motion videos, they start rotation as soon as nock leaves string contact.

  • @bloodbushcraft2467
    @bloodbushcraft2467 4 роки тому

    Have you tried the spinning inserts from ethics?