The hardest part of producing - knowing when you’re done! 😂 Even the top notch producers have this issue. Prince tried all kinds of different bass lines for “when doves cry”, and finally decided it didn’t need it. Pharrell and Chad tried all kinds of bass lines for Grinding by The Clipse and decided it didn’t need it. Sting tried to add all kinds of extra synthesizers and what not to “every breath you take” and decided it didn’t need it. That’s the key is knowing when you don’t need to add more.
Well said, the producer Andrew Huang has a great video on this topic called “The One Thing Every Artist Needs to Know” where he talks about the process of learning when to DECIDE that a song is finished. In it he says “There is no “perfect”, there’s only “finished.”
this statement is wrong because, for example, take an acapella song. There is nothing to take away from the beat because there is nothing in the beat, would that mean that the perfect beat is no beat?
Restarted producing after 4 months and been overproducing layering 4/5 melodic tracks over drums then being hurt when the reviews are cluttered muddy mixes. Simplicity is key!!
Still Tippin will forever be legendary. Im.a big fan of the 2005 Houston hip hop wave. But from the jump, I figured simplicity and slowing down a sample to get a different vibe is the point.
Great video. The structure of it reflects the message, I think. Refine your core idea, deliver it, and then stop. Inspiring in its implications too. I really enjoyed this.
You’ve been helping me so much since I started my journey with this stuff since about like, 6 months ago? Thanks a lot for these videos Navie I really appreciate the help bro.
i seriously thought about this a week ago......as a newbie producer i thought tht adding a bunch of elements here and there and exaggerating a beat without arranging it properly was not a good idea and this made me doubt myself and it reminded me tht most of the og beats were simple and well arranged....this video made me convince the thoughts i had
Curious question: Why does adding more to a beat make a video more watchable/entertaining? I would think learning how the best beats are made or at least the foundation of them would be the point of watching a beat-making guide. Like you mentioned, the example beats had other techniques to keep the sound varied and add interest without ruining the foundation (the snares replaced sounds, not added - maintaining the simplicity). Wouldn't including such things in beat tutorials make them "watchable"? Also, thanks for this video, exposing a big tip for everyone with some big time artists as examples.
Thank you man, i made a really fire 10/10 (for my standard) beat yesterday in like 1 hour with only drums, a synth and a legato saw but i kep on adding shit and it just got really bad
honestly! i learned so much from you Navie. Im still amateur AF but you showed me so many good tricks to improve. I never wanted to become a pro or anything. Im just making beats for my own entertainment and its really cool to see some of the tricks the pros use. Thanks for all, and i hope you keep continuing to show some of the magic :)
if definitely ruined a couple beats because i added too many sounds. sometimes looking at 2 or 3 tracks and only 5 mixer tracks looks so bare and unfinished im used to 50 tracks and 50 mixer slots 😅
It's normal to be a maximalist at first when choosing elements (sound selection), but having a song sound 'distinct' I guess is what Navie meant when he talks about 'strong core idea'.
This is so true. Sometimes even adding a second chord let alone a whole 4 chord progression can really ruin a beat and make it feel somehow more monotonous
Havoc’s beats followed the same principles. One slowed sample and a loop, shook one’s is one of the best beats ever imo and that’s it. Never thought about it like that.
@@NavieD About the strong core idea, may I ask if my unfinished beat already sounds distinct, what can I do to make it sound stimulating? it's 2023 and hyperpop is everywhere, of course it would be nice to have a song that you'd want to listen to over and over again and more than once, sometimes it sounds distinct but it sounds so unfulfilling, any advice?
I love this video. When i make beats i always feel pressured to add more and more layers and i end up making iy beats overly complicated and muddy. Thanks for reminding me if i feel a beat has enough then it's enough.
@@NavieD Nah man.. I think imma stay with my beats. I think we getting too lazy now.. Gotta keep grinding and rack that perfectionism and an expectation from yourself a little higher, y'know?
The hardest part of producing - knowing when you’re done! 😂 Even the top notch producers have this issue. Prince tried all kinds of different bass lines for “when doves cry”, and finally decided it didn’t need it. Pharrell and Chad tried all kinds of bass lines for Grinding by The Clipse and decided it didn’t need it. Sting tried to add all kinds of extra synthesizers and what not to “every breath you take” and decided it didn’t need it. That’s the key is knowing when you don’t need to add more.
Fr bro
Good comment
Well said, the producer Andrew Huang has a great video on this topic called “The One Thing Every Artist Needs to Know” where he talks about the process of learning when to DECIDE that a song is finished. In it he says “There is no “perfect”, there’s only “finished.”
Facts 💯
@@hadookin47 let’s not get producers and content creators confused now
Great beats are plenty. But striking lightning by having the right artist and beat at the same time makes it legendary.
My favorite producer is madlib. He figured out a long time ago if the loop sounds good, sometimes just leave it
I think Madlib is the most skilled regarding creating loops. He somehow knows exactly how to use a sample to its full capacity and capability.
@@DubbudhaHe completes it so well with texture/sound design
Mad villiany is straight gas
A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
this statement is wrong because, for example, take an acapella song. There is nothing to take away from the beat because there is nothing in the beat, would that mean that the perfect beat is no beat?
cornball@@crisant.
@@ramno32fr wtf is bro saying 😭😭😭 acapella doesnt have a beat in the first place
U gotta make what serves the song/album/project. Some beats on an album can be super simple, whereas other beats need to be musically dynamic.
6:08 the #1 theme I noticed is a good sample carrying the simple drum beat
I'm here to learn sensei
Lesson 1: never eat jello while sitting in a tree
@@NavieD instructions unclear I nailed jello to the tree
@@goodfella1605was it the left side of the tree? If not you are safe the left side is poisonous
You called?
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication!
Good beats make your head nod. Itsnot about what fills up your Pro Tools screen
Restarted producing after 4 months and been overproducing layering 4/5 melodic tracks over drums then being hurt when the reviews are cluttered muddy mixes. Simplicity is key!!
Still Tippin will forever be legendary. Im.a big fan of the 2005 Houston hip hop wave.
But from the jump, I figured simplicity and slowing down a sample to get a different vibe is the point.
That song was a staple of my childhood
Man I love this dude right here
I love you too
Can you talk about Tyler’s production ? Thanks man and great video
I did have a video on him that I finished but I deleted it. Maybe I should make it again
@@NavieDid really love to. Tyler’s production is one of my favorite of all time
thank you
Damn dude. You really got a gift on your research! Me and my wife are loving your content!
Thank you
nice, i love you honesty ❤️
That still tipping beat is one of my favorites 🔥
This is a video that everyone should watch
Thank u for all your tips Navie, really helps me to be a better producer
Could you please make a video on Monte Booker's production? pretty please
This needs to become a whole new series on UA-cam
Great video. The structure of it reflects the message, I think. Refine your core idea, deliver it, and then stop. Inspiring in its implications too. I really enjoyed this.
You’ve been helping me so much since I started my journey with this stuff since about like, 6 months ago? Thanks a lot for these videos Navie I really appreciate the help bro.
Stay ambitious and u will be just fine
That's the only proper pronunciation of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry name. Thank you for dropping this knowledge Navie!
I made a beat for an underground artist using only FL Keys in FL Studio (Bodah Revy - Suffer), going back to making simple beats now haha
Great video
this was great!
damn!! thanks for the realisation
🙏
Can you please do a beat making overexplained video about 4 :44?
That's a great idea. I will add it to my list
@@NavieD 🙏🙏🙏
This was awesome man!
Very good video I just woke up. Navie you should do a video about Daringer and his secrets.
That all about the benjis is hypnotizing.
A matter of oppinion greatest beats
I needed to hear this, thanks Gawd 🙏🏽
Love this bro thank you so much!!
Will we ever get a havoc beat tutorial
Cool video, as always, cheers!
i seriously thought about this a week ago......as a newbie producer i thought tht adding a bunch of elements here and there and exaggerating a beat without arranging it properly was not a good idea and this made me doubt myself and it reminded me tht most of the og beats were simple and well arranged....this video made me convince the thoughts i had
Many thanks Navie for these tips 🙏🏻
Great explanation love your videos and break downs of these beats
Excellent video. Great examples
you're so knowledgeable thank you :)
A milli was a banger and a half. Made me have a nostalgia trip
Curious question: Why does adding more to a beat make a video more watchable/entertaining?
I would think learning how the best beats are made or at least the foundation of them would be the point of watching a beat-making guide.
Like you mentioned, the example beats had other techniques to keep the sound varied and add interest without ruining the foundation (the snares replaced sounds, not added - maintaining the simplicity).
Wouldn't including such things in beat tutorials make them "watchable"?
Also, thanks for this video, exposing a big tip for everyone with some big time artists as examples.
bro lets be real, Still Tippin beat and Its All About the Benjamin beats are the type of beats you would delete when making it lol
I appreciate u 🔥
I need to watch this video thank you 🙏🏾
Beautiful simplicity
Thank You 🙏🏾
Nice
Yessirreee
Great video Sir.
I love your channel. Much thanks.
Thank you man, i made a really fire 10/10 (for my standard) beat yesterday in like 1 hour with only drums, a synth and a legato saw but i kep on adding shit and it just got really bad
Needed to hear this today, cheers man! 🔥
I so needed to see this.
Simple works when the sound has character. A lot of VST’s lack character.
Simplicity! 👌🏾
Good vid
Edits rly good twin
honestly! i learned so much from you Navie. Im still amateur AF but you showed me so many good tricks to improve. I never wanted to become a pro or anything. Im just making beats for my own entertainment and its really cool to see some of the tricks the pros use. Thanks for all, and i hope you keep continuing to show some of the magic :)
🙏 I am happy I've been able to help you my friend.
Bro you gotta make this as a series
“And freak it he did” 😂😂😂😂 I’m weakk
Great Beats 🚀
This is the first thing I learned from you months ago when I came across your videos for the first time 💪🏿
man you're so Benzema...love
Bangladesh bangs the best
once i learned cream was just chops with a kick behind it that changed a lot
such a dope video
please do monte booker
if definitely ruined a couple beats because i added too many sounds. sometimes looking at 2 or 3 tracks and only 5 mixer tracks looks so bare and unfinished im used to 50 tracks and 50 mixer slots 😅
It's normal to be a maximalist at first when choosing elements (sound selection), but having a song sound 'distinct' I guess is what Navie meant when he talks about 'strong core idea'.
Dope Video ❤🙌
THAT BOY NAVIE D
It be me
this is amazing! I am so glad you put "Still Tippin" on this list! That is still one of my favs! Putting TX on the map! peace and love from Japan
Best content on here, I've subscribed now I'm waiting for my great producer skill😂
You should do a video on the song “death bed” or the creator powfu
Where busyworksbeats at?
Lol wassup with that anyway
@@KVY_MAJOR I don’t know but it’s tasteless.
🤣
😂
its the video that was supposed to be in the description of that other video but wasnt. yay
Navie please do RZA
It's on the list!
@@NavieD FINALLY THANK U NAVIE
Thanx
large up bro, amazing ! what's your process to find the original samples everytime ?
This is so true. Sometimes even adding a second chord let alone a whole 4 chord progression can really ruin a beat and make it feel somehow more monotonous
Dope!
thanks for the guilt relief verbal care package i going minimal tonight me thinks
Thank you so much for this Navie. 💚
"Antoine De Eh Push Push" LMAO
That's my best attempt at french
I needed to hear this soooo bad 🎉
Havoc’s beats followed the same principles. One slowed sample and a loop, shook one’s is one of the best beats ever imo and that’s it. Never thought about it like that.
Yeah, you just need a strong core idea
Every Hip Hop fan with ears considers Shook One's on the best beats ever, it's not just your opinion.
@@HypnoticHollywoodChill bro
@@HypnoticHollywoodit’s always an opinion.
@@NavieD About the strong core idea, may I ask if my unfinished beat already sounds distinct, what can I do to make it sound stimulating? it's 2023 and hyperpop is everywhere, of course it would be nice to have a song that you'd want to listen to over and over again and more than once, sometimes it sounds distinct but it sounds so unfulfilling, any advice?
We are not worthy! 😂😂😂 Thank you for this video!!!
I never liked “all about the Benjamins” but I do understand the allure and I appreciate the creativity.
I've always been less is more kinda guy but it always felt like it wasnt enough
reinforced what i have already been doing... there needs to be space for a rapper to easily be heard on a track
Greetings from Nepal.
I love this video. When i make beats i always feel pressured to add more and more layers and i end up making iy beats overly complicated and muddy. Thanks for reminding me if i feel a beat has enough then it's enough.
Now you makin' me feel guilty for making hard and complex beats 😂😭
I wonder what would happen if you tried simplifying
@@NavieD Nah man.. I think imma stay with my beats. I think we getting too lazy now.. Gotta keep grinding and rack that perfectionism and an expectation from yourself a little higher, y'know?
5:28 this kinda sounds like electric relaxation by atcq tbh
🔥🔥🔥
@Navie D, do you have a SOUNDCLOUD where we can listen to your own songs?
I mean ban me from the comments but weak ass energy off your first point. Cool way to go. Cya 😂😂
yo yo
Dawg my uncle had the original of still tippin😭
hyperfixating on eq some useless sound is really triggeringgg