LIVE! Karen Read Trial Day 23: Proctor Cross Examination Gets HEATED
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If this is how these cops talk/text...I cannot even imagine how the dude that destroyed his phone was texting
Two LEOs destroyed their phones. No doubt after this because there would be incriminating information on those phones. No doubt at all now. None. Between the Alberts/McCabes/Higgins, in my opinion, they beat tf out of him. And Proctor is just as guilty as they are-in my opinion.
Higgins was smart enough to get rid of his phone. He’s just as sleezy.
Exactly
Heh heh. Would be fine if they weren’t officers! But they are & this is a serious situation. I think the whole case will be tossed out.
Higgins and Albert got rid of their phones…..on the same day
For Proctor to sit there, after everything that's come out over the last 2 days, and testify that his investigation was in no way unprofessional & that he was not biased is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure if he actually believes his own BS or if he thinks he can convince everyone that he can say vile things behind the scenes & run an unbiased investigation. Either way, he needs to be fired ASAP!
Oh but he was just being "juvenile".... nothing to see here...
And don't forget the very next day after talking to the grand total of 3 people one being an Albert he decided on his highschool chat were he was discussing an ongoing investigation she was Effed...and then continued to discuss her anus...but yeah, he handles this case with the upmost integrity.
For him to still be the lead on this case is mindblowing
@@inadz.1111yes! How can he still be employed let alone on this case!
THIS!!!! Omg I nearly vomited when he said that! And then immediately prayed “ Dear God, please let him not be the norm when it comes to investigators!” Because if this is standard issue cop/investigator no one has a chance in the right circumstance 😭
No
47:03 The JUDGE stopped Proctor’s testimony with “a break” when she realized he was admitting he watched video from the trial.
1:15:16 Here it is. 🤬 The judge stopping this was DIRTY!
Yeah,she wants this over with quickly. No mistrials etc
@@CMJamesit's already screwed. This is going to cost the tax payers. It should be Procter, the judge, DA etc who have to pay. He and them that killed him need to serve time as well. That judge and DA as well
Judges, cops, lawyers, and politicians are not to be trusted!
If you got caught drinking and driving in your cop car in the UK you're fired immediately.
I think that's how it should be everywhere! I'm so fed up with the cw right now.
As it should be
Mass. Cops drink and drive, and if caught, are usually driven home and tucked into bed! Boston State troopers and police are worse! They all need liver transplants by the end of their career in law enforcement!
There were two cops, who admitted going to NYC for a police officer wake, they drank a lot, then stopped at the bar and drank more, than drove to the party house to drink more! The ATF agent admitted to being drunk, but drove to the Canton PD, to manipulate Procter into only looking at Karen read! It's disgusting how many laws these cop break, and are covered up by "the brothers in blue"!
If I were in the jury, I'd be nullyfing the DUI. The hypocrisy. Not that I think they've proven that either.
@@InvictumLupus After watching this, you still have faith in any system? Like they could just claim you're drunk and fire you because they don't like you. Please pay attention.
These texts also show why she wanted her own bathroom when they went to Aruba. The CW wanted the jury to think she was a princess and resented his kids because she didn’t want to share a bathroom with the kids. I wouldn’t want to share the bathroom with teenagers if I had those issues.
SO TRUE!! I have a Bestie with very serious Crohn's. We always try to set her up with private amenities. And if it's not possible, she won't join most of the time
I don't even though I don't have them with her medical issues I'm in complete understanding of why
That makes it sad, wow.
Dude, I don't have these issues and I still don't want to share rr with my teens cause teens are ick. Lol she is fairly saying nah. This just destroyed their Idea!
Great point! I didn't think about this, sure hope one of the jurors do.
The part about not “knowing” the Alberts and McCabes was the most damning to me. Alan clearly laid out how well Proctor DOES know them, and it clearly landed.
Yeah but if you listened to his whole testimony Jackson only took a piece of that. He did testify that he knows a FEW Alberts.
They all seem to say they don't know each other, but they really do even the kid Colin who was part of a wedding party, he says oh that was a long time ago, ummm you know them, they are all questionable and sketchy. Privilege gone over board
@@calmingwavesx correct, however, he STILL minimized the relationship. He insinuated that they were acquaintances, and especially with Kevin Albert…
Lies upon lies. 👺
It's a very small town
No unlimited police resources
Yr expectations are not realistic
I would feel a lot safer if Michael proctor’s badge , gun and drivers license were taken away from him. Not only is he dangerous on the job he is just as dangerous drinking and driving off the clock .
And the fbi agent. All scumbags
Imagine if they called in another investigator from from another far away town. That investigator would have searched the house, talked to any person who even looked in the direction of the Albert house, dug up the front yard, towed everyone’s car, had a witness list a mile long, and on and on and on… in the first week.
The fact that Proctor stood up and cockily thanked jurors after getting obliterated on the stand just goes to.show how deluded and sociopathic he truly is..Scary
Definitely! What happened to the court rule to not approach or SPEAK to the jurors??? Judge?!?!
If I had been a juror, I would have had a look of disgust on my face at that. Very sleezy salesman vibe, trying to sell he’s a good cop, a good guy and just made one little teensy weensy mistake that was “regrettable.” Try reprehensible.
@@DebC7777 You expect the judge to uphold court rules? Hah.
@@boanoah6362 idk, what was I thinking 😃…The fact that other states do threw me off.
I will never understand why the owners of the home were not interviewed immediately after JO was removed from their front yard. This is insane to me
If you were really investigating the case, no matter what relationship they had or did not have with the deceased, wouldn't you want to question them about what they saw and heard outside their home that night?
I think it must have been very clear that they needed to avoid questioning them bc foul play killed him. And maybe they wanted to wait until they had the chance to pull up all the concrete in their basement…
Their mate, they knew what happened.
Bet it's happened before.
They're an evil bunch. John wasn't tight with them.
My heart bleeds for him and his family and Karen.
She didn't do it.
@@verjanhamilton6287 so you think the computer in her Lexus was ALSO programmed to be part of the conspiracy?!🤣 When did anyone say that group of people/ friends, had ever had a physical fight? Or even an argument?! Did I miss that when watching this trial for over two months? Oh, that’s right! That was never said! You ppl crack me up. Ignore a million pieces of evidence and glom on to one absurd conspiracy theory.
It’s because they were all protecting the Albert family. You seem to forget Kevin Albert literally works for the Canton Police Department. They weren’t going to search his brother’s(Brian Albert)house and officially questionin him.
I can't walk into a doorframe without getting a bruise, but Karen hit John with an SUV and nothin.
Right??? Me toooo!!!! EXCELLENT POINT!!!!
@@MrsParksIsInTheHouse Me too! My kids ask me who hit me!😂 its absolutely bizarre that if she hit him with her car, that he wouldn’t be all bruised…something stinks in Canton…
Yep! I just found a huge bruise on my arm today! Can’t even recall how it happened bc I bruise so much. Great point!
This weekend I just walked into a cornor of a cabinet....you should see my arm! 1st thing I thought was what would it look like if I got backed into with a car?
i wonder if freezing conditions would make it less likely to bruise
I’m GLAD defense is calling FBI accident reconstructionists. After that, there is no way she can be found guilty
He is the most dangerous person in that whole court room! He’s probably one of the most dangerous people in that state! He should be jailed
Nah, he’s small fry. Too loose lipped and not cunning enough to cover his tracks, or be trusted by the bigger fish. He’s a useful idiot as the saying goes. I bet there are bigger, badder fish, doing worse things in Canton.
Edit: Like corrupt politicians
Absolutely terrifying IMO
I think the state troopers altogether are dangerous. The problem is systemic.
Nah, his superiors and fellow officers showed to be just as bad, by encouraging him and not reporting this sociopath.
He didn't kill his partner of 2 years
After 23 days of this trial, the only one who looks like they've been run over by a car is Michael Proctor.
Indeed.
Lolol I thought he was gonna puke when he had to explain the balloon knot 😂😂😂
Underrated comment. 😂 👏🏽
😂😂😂 Nice one!
You need to give Proctor lessons on how to be funny in a clever way, rather than his hate filled little “figure of speech” “joke(s)”.
More like a bus
The DA needs to drop all charges IMMEDIATELY and make this right to Karen!!!
@Alibumstead I'm waitin' for it! I honestly thought Judge Bev might announce, after one of her sighbars (LOL), that it's OVER -especially today.
I was also thinking John's brother could lean forward any minute and whisper to Karen, "I'm sorry."
Wouldn't that be nice to see?
As someone who was hit on her bike at 18 with no helmet on, and the car was only going 15 MPH WHILE COMING TO A STOP, I was bruised from head to toe! Broke my leg, cracked my sternum, concussion, etc…but I didn’t die!! This case is ridiculous! There’s NO WAY he was hit by a car “backing up” and he had those kinds of head injuries but NO bruises on his body?? BULLSHIT.
Did u hit the back of yr head on hard ground and bleed out?
We're yr limbs uber floppy from being drunk?
He should be fired and never allowed to be in a position of power again. And given jail time for lying and corruption.
Just imagine..a traguc accident happens and you lose the one you love to a desth and then you get arrested and FRAMED by a dirty cop who wants to lock you up for the rest of your life!
What a nightmare!
This is disgusting. Karen lost her job and the financial and emotional impact of this has got to be devastating.
Imagine if she is not guilty, didn't even have time to grieve her loved one.....just sad
I’m hoping she gets a movie deal and sues the commonwealth and the police department to at least recoup financially. Emotionally, her and her family have a long road of healing ahead.
@@kayakazi7765 She is not guilty.
Damn. I remember being so dismissive of headlines talking about a conspiracy and frame job.
I stand extremely corrected.
Ditto!!!
I didn't follow the trial from the beginning because it just seemed so farfetched and then I saw this... it's just revolting
actually happy seeing karen smile! she has every right to smile while she's watching the very man that dehumanized her in front of the world get grilled for all his wrongdoing! #standwithkarenread
Still feel so for John's family.
It makes you wonder, if John had some info about police corruption . The amount of lies, inconsistencies, hatred by so many witnesses is bizarre.
That’s what I’m wondering. There had to be something there. I keep thinking, what if john was investigating canton crew for another agency. And then this happened. That’s why the FBI got involved. Something is off
I'm trying to find a pic that i thought i saved somewhere of a court document, had something to do with officer John o'keefe investigating or helping with a investigation over Colin Albert dealing drugs. I'm probably butchering that all up but I'll keep trying to find it lol
Yes, the level of hatred against John is wierd. I thought sexual jealousy, but it's not enough. Protecting the kid would do it though.
@@SongbirdstressHe was too much of a GOOD cop to be part of their clique.
@kimberlypullen7468 I don't know, but the Prosecution has given me the impression he was an a h. Treating Karen as a babysitter with benefits Disgusting.
All interview should be recorded and if they are not they should not be allowed as evidence. We are past the point of police being trustworthy just as we are past the point of politicians not lying. If we dont have a video, i wont believe it
Agreed. Between phones and body cams, everything should be recorded.
By that same premise, all court proceedings should be videoed & archived!
Standard police practice to not record cooperating witness’s interviews.
The statements made in the interviews are hearsay anyway whether record or not and thus inadmissible under the rule against hearsay for substantive purposes
At most they can be used for impeachment purposes as a prior inconsistent statement. Either way statements made by a witness out of court is not admissible evidence for proving the truth of the matter asserted.
Only the witness’s in court testimony can be used for proving the truth of the matter .
Thus recording the statement isn’t helpful .
Thanks. That's helpful info.@@Michaelcollin-wu2ng
@@Michaelcollin-wu2ng I love how many ignorant people like comments when they are top ignorant about how things work. Every district and state are different. I was saying every single one should be able to be reviewed.
I really hope we get some juror interviews after the trial!
Proctor should go to jail! All his cases should be investigated!! What a POS!!
It has already started. A lawyer for a guy in Framingham who was convicted of killing his wife has already asked for an appeal hearing because of this "detective".
@@secondrule😮 wow
@@secondruleNot surprised remember the drug lab
Let's just be happy his conduct isn't actually criminal because in that case he'd probably just plead the 5th...
@@secondruleis the place actually called ‘Framingham’?! 😮
In what world would a COP die on another person's lawn, much less another cop's, and the person who owns the house isn't investigated?? They say they "talked to" the Albert's and the other people involved but they did it as if they were talking to friends, not suspects. To me, the biggest issue is that some of the Albert's were his sister's best friends. Whether anyone wants to admit it, I guarantee you he didn't want her friends to go down so the confirmation bias started from hour one. Not to mention it was his friend and colleague, Kevin Albert's, brother who owned the house. And all the cops just took his and Jennifer McCabe's word for it. But in reality, no one ever said ANYTHING about Karen saying "I hit him" until the Federal Grand Jury. I think every single one of them admitted they never mentioned it to anyone until that hearing.
Canton-world is ending.
In Canton, MA.
I can’t say it enough/ if anyone else had a dead cop in their front yard they would be detained in handcuffs in the back of a cop car. A pool got filled in, basement floor replaced and we are supposed to ignore that. This case is beyond ridiculous.
@karinaz8756 it was even the people in the group chats first thought! It was everyone's right? Boozy evening sexual jealousy. Fist fight. Plus he wasn't dead, they put him out to die. Real hatred. The real question is why did you hate John so much?
@@Songbirdstress John was a straight cop.
If they did believe Karen really was guilty then what was the excuse for doing such a poor investigation ? so now either way , absolutely cannot find her guilty
Because she isn’t guilty and they always knew it.
Because it was a clear cut, she suggested ahead of time did it, easy (not my opinion, but what I think they thought based on Proctor’s texts).
Sloppy cop-y. 👮♂️🙅🏼♀️
He was probably drunk too
@@HeadNtheCloudsTotally! 😂
he lost all the right and respect to ever be called trooper EVER again
But did he?? He still has a job at this time…… I mean if public opinion made the determination then he’d be filling out job apps but apparently he’s still employed with Mass state police…..
@@amyc3579he literally just testified yesterday, his testimony will be used against him
This may sound nuts but I teared up at the end of cross when AJ said "shame on you" to that POS! I'm sure he wanted to say a lot more. I certainly did 😠
It was definitely a "Have you no shame?" moment.
Obviously, Jen McCabe told him about Karen’s medical conditions
But I didn't hear anyone ask him how he knew. That makes sense, but no one confirmed it.
@brynb245 Why didn't they ask him ?
I wish they had asked on cross!
Could have been Karen and that's why they didn't ask bc they already knew she told them. I think one of her reasons for just dropping JO off was bc her stomach hurt.
@@brynb245like he'd tell the truth anyway?!
Hating Karen killed a cop doesn’t explain him calling the ME a whack job, sounds like that’s just what he says when any woman is not complying with his wishes
Explains why his wife supports him, probably scared of him or she hates herself too
she is absolutely clueless-however she's a narcissist as well so....
If my husband talked about women like this and then had to testify to these horrific things…….. my gosh!
I would be so embarrassed if this was my husband, I would not support him or be proud of his actions
Oh my gosh!!!
Immediate divorce!
His wife is sticking up for him!!!!
@@annfreels3071there is always a fool behind a scum bag
How did Proctor ever become a detective? His unprofessional behavior is shocking. I understand why the FBI is investigating him. His supervisors should be investigated too. The corruption in the CW of MA seems to be very real based on this trial.
I don’t understand why they didn’t bring in- insurance advice. I’m a bodily injury adjuster. Looking at the damages brought forward obtaining to Karen’s car is not “death” legit. It’s crazy. There is not enough damages to the rear of her car to cause death or this officer. It’s crazy!!
You can be 100% sure AND 100% wrong.
Especially if you are biased
That's a good one.
I wonder if the jury picked up on the contradiction of Proctor claiming he did not interview Colin (until 2023) because he was not at the house when John was there, yet he interviewed Colin's parents, Chris and Julie Albert, 12 days after John was killed - but supposedly they were not at the house either . . . at any time that night. So why did he need to interview Chris and Julie Albert, but not Colin?
Good point! I missed that
Excellent point
I guarantee he found out about Karen’s medical issues from the McCabe woman. They were once friends but she showed such contempt for Karen I feel certain she’s the one who injected the crazy instability accusations.
💯
Karen may have told him herself. I think the reason she didn't go in was bc her stomach hurt. Either way he's disgusting.
I was on a jury before and have to say this! Even if something was stricken? You can not unhear what was said!
The BEST part of today’s LIES by sneaky Pete Proctor , Was when he said Thank You To The Juror’s!!! 😂😂😂 What a POS !!! I truly hope that Officer O’Keffe’s family can see at the very least there WAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO INVESTIGATION aside from blaming Karen Reed !! Prayers 🙏🏻 For Them
I could not believe he thanked the jury!
Karen Reed and the O’Keefe family should sue the bleep out of the Caton Police Department!!😭💯
What a huge donkey. Hope the jurors found it creepy that he thanked them.
Yes he’s such a slimy suck up
@@user-li6cx7ti1ndon’t forget slimy proctor
It is the culture that has been allowed to develop. Need to clean house starting at the very top.
I think they will cut the tail and blame only him 😑
Exactly. This is scratching the surface and revealing the rot. Hopefully things can start to improve a bit now
With immediate effect,but judging from the fact that this POS still has his job,ay
The state is shameful for bringing this cover up to trail
No, they are fortunate that this is not being swept under the rug. CLEAN IT UP.....DON'T COVER IT UP!
Sunlight is the best disinfectant 😉
No I'm glad they are! It should be exposed!
No cover up .....America became "woke "
Well, the fact Karen Read has to pay a huge amount for her defense is reprehensible! I hope she can sue for damages!
Allen Jackson is 👑
Love Alan Jackson❤️❤️❤️❤️
Proctor keeps talking about the "facts" he knew of the case and how Karen Read hit John with her car. But that's not a fact. Nobody saw it. Theres conflicting statements about what she had said... did I hit him... I couldve hit him... etc. Theres no confession. How is that a fact then? And then IF he is considering it a fact.... how is the FACT that everyone left, drove past, lived in the house, but none of them saw John laying in the yard, called it in, or came to his aid??? THAT IS A FACT. The answer being... he WASNT there until later which means Karen DID NOT hit him. I was completely unbiased before the trial started. But I dont know how anyone can shout about her being guilty INCLUDING Proctor because at the very least.... innocent until proven guilty.
Everyone knows she did.
@@CrimeCultureWithCyneverybody with no intelligence…the rest of us know she is innocent! 😂
@@JessSpouting respectfully, you are not that bright..
@@CrimeCultureWithCynWhen people say “everyone”,it’s generally just “one”…it’s up there with,”today someone came up to me and said”…you need to get into politics😂
@@JessSpouting problem I have she knew exactly where to look for him while others didn’t why said is he dead or did I hit him trust me I don’t care for detectives or cops
By the end of this trial, Karen Read will be completely exonerated.
I grew up 2 towns over from Canton. Canton was a “nothing” town growing up. A town where nothing happens. And there are lots of towns in this country that are just like Canton.
Proctor denied he knew any of the Albert’s even when the defense had pictures of them together, like the wedding pics, etc.
He was only FORCED to concede that he knew them because of what came out in the federal investigation.
I think there’s sooo much more the defense has to prove the coverup piece of this.
Massachusetts has a BIG problem!
Where are our elected officials in all of this!?
Governor Maura Healy?? Helloooo??
My only question left is if Officer John O’Keefe will ever get justice. If not, it is all of these “troopers & witnesses” fault. In my opinion of course.
I believe all her attorneys are actually very pissed imo. This happened January in 2022. IMO they are fighting for a factually innocent woman, whom they know is innocent.
And they are going up against “the powers that be” as Proctor put it.
And that’s why the term #FreeKarenRead means so much more than most people think. Yes, she needs to be exonerated… which is step 1 in trying to get real justice for Officer John Okeefe! 🙏🏻
I pray that does happen.
Citizens of MA should take action to petition the state troopers to take action and the governor to take action. If I lived in MA, I would look into the most effective way to go about this. I would think that the press knocking down doors demanding answers and even showing footage of the leaders avoiding talking to them would prompt them to need to sit down and answer hard questions about how they are going to make positive changes after all that has been uncovered. Maybe a signed petition? I bet lawyers would have better ideas about how to most effectively go about this.
The defense doesn’t have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on the state.
The texts came in due to the FBI internal investigation on the case. When they pulled his phone records, they found content on the phone that assisted in the defenses case of bias & potential cover up. If the FBI never entered the chat, the phone records would have never been seen.
Also, I was hit by a Bronco (35mph) while I was walking across the street. Both my shoes stayed on & now I wonder how anyone knew I was hit & to call 911 🤷🏻♀️
@@criticaldarling1982 when I saw a biker getting struck by a Mercedes and saw him fly 5 meters across the street, his clothes were ripped open on the legs and arms, he had abrasions on his arms and legs but didn't loose a shoe. The driver of the Mercedes wasn't very fast but the biker was standing because he had to cross the street and the driver didn't see him standing there.
The text “ha ha ha ha” to the sister after she said her friend was nervous about the interview implies that she had nothing to worry about … basically he was just ticking boxes in his sham investigation.
EXACTLY! Why should she be worried?? It's her buddy!
Is anyone in this town NOT a drunk driver?
I live in one such small town on the Northern California coast… it’s rampant & beyond appalling. Corruption runs so deep to the point I can’t wait to relocate because there’s absolutely no law & order.
Bev ?
If Proctor had the case wrapped up within 16 hours, why is he interviewing people in September 2023??? 🤔
documentation for the feds...
There is no coming back from Proctor and the misrepresented sallyport video from the CW. The CW/prosecution should throw in the towel and drop the charges. I want it to continue as I am invested in a verdict now-but they are just wasting the taxpayers money. And it is completely destroying what little credibility the MSP had left after all the federal charges MSP have faced recently. It’s worse for the CW and MSP to continue the case than to just drop the charges. They won’t ever get a conviction in this case.
I want to know why Proctor hates Karen so much. I mean the language he uses against her would make a sailor blush. Where is all the hatred coming from?
It seems as if John O'Keefe's death eas a set up to get Karen arrested and put away for murder. I heard that the McCabes and Alberts knew that John was dead before the body was found. I believe they spoke about it through text message.
Proctor proves just how corrupt he is by placing blame on Karen although he hadn't stepped foot onto the scene.
"Utmost integrity" is a phrase that should never leave the lips of Proctor EVER.... Don't speak about something you know nothing about sir....
Right?? No one even asked him why he hated her so much when he didn't even know her. It's weird.
I wonder IF MAYBE, with O’Keefe’s switch to a different p.d. assignment AFTER he had custody of the children, did he MAYBE become aware of other police officers in lawless activities? With ALL OF THIS “police” departmentS CORRUPTION being ALLOWED to happen, MAYBE one OR more fellow “police officers” were the ones to commit this murder, and then to cover their own tracks, they accuse K.R.
At first I thought it was because they loved John, but they hated John!
@Songbirdstress you hit the nail on the head! He wasnt a part of the inner circle because he was actually a good cop and even BETTER man by all accounts. He was way above the caliber of these sleeze balls!
Proctor immediately identified Karen Read as guilty. That was to protect Brian Albert. Then Proctor worked to justify why he should ignore any evidence that pointed away from Karen Read. Classic sociopathic behavior. It’s a failure of management that his superiors allowed him to stay on the job.
There is no way that she hit him to the point he died and had no bruises and no injuries from the chest down. These cops did absolutely no other investigation except to blame Karen Read I sure hope his family can see that there is so much cover up and no other investigation in their son's case. It's absolutely absurd
How do you get a black eye in a car accident?
His injuries don't add up for sure
@@Songbirdstress Not just one black eye, but TWO black eyes. And defensive knuckle wounds.
If you start an investigation with a pre-existing conclusion in your mind, you'll only find evidence that points to that conclusion, and ignore everything else.
Confirmation bias.
That's probably why Brian Albert and Brian Higgins got rid of their phones. There was details pointing to someone else.
4:43 “we didn’t have probable cause to get a warrant”?? Ummmm excuse me, a fellow police officer was found deceased on your front lawn. Isn’t that enough probable cause to search every square inch of that property???! Unreal. They failed John Okeefe and it’s so sad that we will probably never actually know what happened to that man that night. I think of his poor neice and nephew and how much tragedy they had to deal with at such a young age and it breaks my heart.
He KNEW that John had been invited inside for more drinks. He had probable cause. He’s lying. It’s not like Karen was going to drop him off and he was just going to hang out in the yard.
He certainly looked at the SUV and defendant’s phone without having a warrant.
It bothers me that officer O’Keefe’s brother and (wife?) were laughing when proctor’s texts about Karen’s medical issues were spoken about in such derogatory terms. I know they believe she’s guilty but Proctor’s asinine remarks are horrifying. WE are ‘Joe Public’. He could have been speaking about any of US in same way. Whatever happened to innocent UNTIL proven guilty? He’s disgusting. Thankfully he doesn’t represent those incredibly hard working , ethical cops that actually have integrity.
😂 all cops act like this.
The O'Keefe family is probably far down the rabbit hole. And don't forget that they have been influenced by the state/cops for two years. I am fully convinced that they will start a civil case against Karen very fast after this trial so Karen will not really be free any time soon. And she can't afford a full trial of these great lawyers again.
The court room should have stood up and gave the defense lawyer, a standing ovation!!!!
😅😅imagine. That would be outstanding
The “You should be ashamed, sir” was the chefs kiss, too! 😂
No photos of the tail light, no body cam footage, no recordings of the interviews, "witnesses not brought into the police station" ??? Seriously, in 2022 this happened not 2012.
Proctor is a smug narcissist. He was putting on an act the entire day. Dang this guy rubbed me wrong.
I wonder if the jury likes him more after he “Thank You d” them. Thank you for sitting through my disgusting behavior and corrupt investigation?🤬
@Princelover-ip4gn 😆😆 that was so smug to thank them!
A simple head nod would have been better. They HAVE to see what a joke he is.
1912
The DA needs to dismiss this miserable case and get ready for the huge civil lawsuit against the city!
they need to get ready for the feds.. every single person involved is going down
governor implied this
The funniest part was how he tried to downplay his relationship to the Albert’s by starting to say that he would basically allow any stranger to babysit his kids 😂
Alan Jackson is so good. You’d think we were watching a TV courtroom drama where writers spent hours finessing the dialogues. WOW!
Dang, Peter... over 76,000 views in just 6 hours!! I'm so happy you're being recognized for your coverage. You truly are the best!!🎉
I feel so bad for Karen. The things that he said about her were so humiliating. And I truly hope that Johns family realizes that they are backing the wrong horse. Karen does not deserve the crap and desertion that she got from his family.
I can see why though, between her Aruba behavior and the texts with Higgins she doesn't look too favorable especially if they feel she's responsible for his passing
JUST to tell you peggy was mocking yannetti when proctor make up fake story n yannetti was shocked..rainsing hands mimicking...n when disgusti msgs were read she was smiling...they will not see it ever...they like Jen n proctor company
@@niks44 I hate to hear this. I have hoped so much that by now they might have sincerely apologized & were being supportive of her through this debauchery against her, as well as in their shared loss & grief as it should have been from the start.
With all the nasty stuff that came out about Proctor's texts, when the camera was on John's brother - I really hoped he would lean forward and whisper, "I'm sorry" to Karen. He had to be at least be thinking about it.
I can picture them getting home and re-hashing the day's events in court over dinner. Would love to be a fly on their wall & hear it all.
I hate to think they're like the McCabes & like Proctor, but JM has shown it's possible to be straight EVIL, so I guess it's possible for the O'Keefes to be like that too.
I'm on the west coast and have seen a little of that East Coast attitude which is abrupt and in-your-face, but only once or twice. No thanks.
@bonniekellyromro9073 ; JO’s family deserted KR?! I think you have that ass backwards. Karen Read is the one who ran home from the hospital, erased security footage from Okeefs’ home, right in front of his niece and nephew! Then she left, never went to the funeral and never talked to the niece, nephew, or ANYONE in the Okeef family again! I think a whole family of people, are intelligent enough to be backing the correct side. They are privy to the same evidence as everyone else is. They do not see the evidence as you do. They were also privy to the relationship JO had with KR. They’re probably in a better place to judge, than you are.
@@jill2066 fool. Does the kool-aid taste good? You might want to watch a bit of the evidence. Lol
I giggle every time Jackson says " let's continue, shall we?". Lol
Birds of a feather, flock together. Proctor, Albert and McCabe. Dangerous people in my mind.
According to Procter, you could have an affair but as long as you didn't do it every day, or talk to the person too often, it wouldn't count as having a relationship with another individual....
ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE.
It depends what the definition of "is" is. Shades of Clinton. They're presenting the Clinton defence.
Yanetti talked to the press after trial and explained that he met the plow driver to drive his route and the tow driver wanted to meet at the school. He said that no one asked him to leave.
This detective should be FIRED!
For starters.
And go to jail.
100% should neeeever be a cop period. He has shown what kind of man he really is. Misogynistic. Narcissistic. And a big fat liar.
Yes he should but he’s still the lead officer he is one nasty mouthed man
I hope the public backlash is quick and BRUTAL
The fact that we are over a month in, and the state just barely called Proctor and STILL hasn’t called their medical examiner yet tells me how weak those claims are, considering those are usually the first 2 witnesses and case agent is sometimes called multiple times by the prosecution the case agent for Daybell was called at least twice but if memory serves me right he was called 3 times
7 weeks in and we have yet to see a re-enactment of this accident including details of how John got all of his injuries. Karen is innocent.
I believe you are correct. Detective Ray Hermosillo was called 3 times.
So what I got out this case so far. The police in Canton and MSP like to drive drunk, sometimes so drunk they leave badge and gun somewhere, they don't know about proper evidence collection, don't know about scene securing, don't know about proper report writing, proper chain of custody procederes and they don't know how to Chat respectfully about people involved in a case. HOW ARE THEY STILL ON THE FORCE?!
Well summarised!
What I've gotten out of this case is that today a balloon knot was in the witness box.
Imagine having to sit for 7-8 weeks listening to Lally blabber on, only to be excused from the Jury 😅
Let's be honest, that juror just wanted to be excused so it would not become 10 weeks of Lally.
@@hkr667 exactly
And he just lies on the stand. We the people can read and understand the written and spoken English language. They were cops so they were NOT looked at and Procter decided this in 16 hours.
No surprise Proctor jumped on the “I was emotional with my texts” bandwagon today. He must have watched your blog yesterday and took your suggestion. That guy is pathetic!
Yanetti was interviewed today and went the school to meet with Brian Lucky Loughran in the parking lot re testimony. Nothing to do with Proctors!
Jen McCabe told Proctor about Karen's health issues....
I wonder if she used the same sort of language to describe those issues that he did later.
43:37 that’s a great point. I saw an animation a while back but I wasn’t sure it was from the prosecution or if court tv or some other news organization made the video. What happened in their animation was absolutely absurd! It actually looked like John was standing on the curb and for whatever reason, bent over almost at a 90° angle and the car hit him in the head. Instead of falling in the same direction the car was moving in, he somehow pops straight back up and falls backwards on the lawn! I laughed because it was so absurd and wondered if this came from the prosecution. I guess not.
I know a lot of people dislike Turtle Boy and his antics, but he did a video where he actually drove to the house where he was hit and he tested the prosecution theory of her being 60 feet down the road and backing up into him at 25 miles per hour. Firstly he couldn’t quite get to that speed without feeling he was going to lose control of the vehicle so the best he got was 19mph.( but we are to believe Karen did it in the snow, while intoxicated). Secondly whomever was filming with him brought up a good point, was John just sitting there in the street waiting for her to hit him? In the video you can see there was ample time for John to see the car coming towards him and would’ve had ample time to get away. So why would he just stand there. There was no word of tire tracks or skid marks. No one around the home heard a vehicle or saw the lights of it? I find that hard to believe.
The other thing is, why would John be standing in the road once Karen dropped him off at the house? It was cold and snowing and he was wearing a light sweatshirt with a t shirt underneath. We are to believe he sat there and watched her drive 60ft away and then 60ft back? I honestly think if she hit him by accident even she would’ve jumped out of the car and tried to save his life.
There was no motive for her to just leave him laying there to die. Karen had her own money, home, good career and no financial or family ties to him. A breakup would be easy if she was that mad at him. The fight theory the prosecution is laying out is weak. Karen could’ve just separated herself and went back to her own home for space.
I think the defense is slooowly working their way back to Alllison McCabe, Colin Alberts, and Brian Higgins clandestinely meeting at Canton High School around 1:00 -- 1:30 a.m. the morning of January 29th. If the defense can get there either with phone GPS, camera video, and/or car black box data, we may actually find out who the real suspects are. It would be great to sprinkle in some car black boxes like the Murdaugh case. I hope the McAlberts didn't all rehome their vehicles.
And this is why I would open an investigation to every case this guy was involved with
He is not the ME and not an expert with training to know HOW the injuries occurred. He is a detective, has not gone medical school or residency that take YEARS to accomplish and that is the training required to make such assessments and conclusions. This is beyond belief.
In my opinion, Proctor is a narcissistic psychopath! No remorse no empathy just evil!… IMO
Procter doxed his own sisters workplace !! Real smart . I wonder how many calls they’ll get today 😂🤣😜
Not drinking and driving in the cruiser… this guy is COOKED
The judge actually seemed very fair with the defence today, overruling many of the prosecution’s objections.
I live in Sharon, MA- the town next to Canton and I’m embarrassed 😳
I'm embarrassed that you're embarrassed.😂😂😂
Did you see Jen’s daughter slip up and say “Collin wasn’t there when John was there”
Under direct examination
I don't think Bev is softening towards the defense. I think she's just as disgusted with Proctors behavior as we are.
FBI is in the courtroom breathing down her neck.
Lawyer Lee is also great.
I like Emily Baker but she adds so much “color commentary” that sometimes it’s too much and a miss what was actually said. I like and dislike her for the same reason haha.
Outstanding Peter your father must be very proud
I think he should have ended the cross with: No matter what the evidence showed, you were going to railroad Karen to protect the homeowner. Your goal was to convict even if the evidence pointed elsewhere.
If you use your cruiser in the uk to get groceries you are suspended without pay for 30 days
Peter, represent Karen when she sues! You'd be amazing!!
Damage already done imo. I don’t believe one of these prosecutors
The fact this guy keeps repeating his comments were "juvenile" makes my skin crawl.
No sir, "juvenile" and "vile" are not synonyms!
Does he allow his kids to speak that way because they are juveniles?
All those men in his chats are supposed to be pilars of their community! All just being juvenile?
Sure, as in juvenile PRISON.
Jackson had a great comment … then who are we pointing the finger at ? Love his style
Thank you, Peter, for the comments you made at the end when the "supervisor" was responding to what actions had been taken in reprimanding this officer for his conduct, and how he was "reprimanded" and it was sent up the chain of command. I'm glad that you pointed out how irrelevant that was, (because it probably didn't happen). Even if it went up the chain of command nothing would happen, and nothing would be placed in his file.
My last job prior to my retirement due to disability was as an Instructor at an adult Vocational School. There were many teachers who received lots of complaints, and nothing ever came out of it. The Dean would meet with the party, do the "dog and pony show" (meaning apologizing, this should never have happened, etc.) and then take the teacher aside and say, "Take it down a notch and don't deal with so and so for a while ."It all means nothing. When I was having problems with my son being bullied at school by a teacher , it was the same situation. It got to the point where he was sad all the time. I kept asking what was wrong, and he said, "It doesn't matter, because you can't fix it". I became really alarmed. We've all heard of stories of bullying having tragic results.
So, when I called the school and the principal said, "There is no way to switch a student to a different class mid year, but I'll talk to the teacher and put a stop to this." I told him I formerly worked for a school, and so I knew he was just trying to appease me, and that nothing would be done to the teacher. Then I said the MAGIC WORD! LAWSUIT!, lol. I called the President of the Board of Education, who was too busy to take my call. I said, "That's fine. This is just a courtesy call to advise you that I'm bringing lawsuit against the teacher, the school and the Board of Ed., and you'll be hearing from my attorney and the News Crews I'll be contacting". My son's teacher was changed before the day ended.
My son came home with a smile, and a look of wonder, and said "How did you do it?" I told him I said the magic word . I also told him to never despair, there is always "some" way to fix something, even if you have to think outside the box. Thank God there are attorneys, and people like you to help the underdog! I love your channel.
It was clever the way the defence lawyer got into evidence Ms Read's medical history, which the jury knew nothing about, as it also explains her behaviour in wanting a seperate room as opposed to the prosecutors version, that there was trouble in their relationship.
He used his high school group chat as a jury, fed them some (often cruel and unusual) details and used their theories to create a case and narrative for him..
Thank you Peter for continuing to keep us updated on this trial. 💗 Everyday in court seems to be more wild than the last. See you all tomorrow; have a wonderful night. 💞
I watched the trial and still come back to hear Peter’s recap. ❤
@@MimiDidi121Me too! Peter has such a wonderful unbiased opinion. He sees it like it is, as things come up. He’s wonderful! 👍🇨🇦
@@MimiDidi121 same! 💞
@@truecrimenut6696 💯%! 🎯
you believe that she said that? WHERES THE FOOTAGE THO? 😅😅😅 NO BODY CAMS? Just a ton of shady dealings & moving like guilty people would. All the issues with proctor, abandoning the dog after almost 8 years, selling the house, destroying phones, falsifying interviews, contacting those same families with updates including your sister, not seeing a body of a fellow Boston PD officer by someone's front doorstep, after looking out 6x in 20 mins, the habitual "butt dials" deleting Ring videos of the victims home from Johns personal cellphone, the celebrite data, FBI investigations, purjuring himself 20+ times based on statements made in previous hearings under oath, lying that you didn't know the McAlberts, the handling of the crime scene. Not bringing out forensics to see footprints and such....I COULD LITERALLY GO ON AND ON AND ON 😅😅😅
These people have absolutely no self awareness. They are able to “know everything” and then “know nothing” all at the same time. And in my experience, this is the way all law enforcement is.
I kind of gained an ounce of respect for auntie Bev today for allowing all these texts.
How many cases has he railroaded like this? I hope they investigate every case he helped investigate.