I think they were cruelly fucked over by the industry but I am happy to see Fab arise and tell the real story. Best of luck to him. He seems like a beautiful person. A Very sincere soul. I am sorry Rob left us.
Nah, you just never know. They played the game in my guess and were on board with the plan until they got fucked up, see people like to point fingers when they get caught, you should know if you are older then 21, and if you have kids, don't let them do this to you.
yes Fab is so beautiful, he does not hate or blame anyone. I'm so sick and tired of seeing these comments from people. You don't know these men or their lives, they were kids at the time (yes 22 is a kid). If you go to his channel "Fab Morvan", you will hear him sing these very songs and sing them well. Milli Vanilli are not the only people that Frank Farion did this to. They signed contracts that they legally could not get out of. On top of that they had arguments and all kind of things going on, they did not want to do this at first but after they sign the contract it was too late. No none of us really knows what went on, but you don't either😡 Fab is a very beautiful and positive person, he deserves to move on just like any other person. He's in his fifties now, let it go 😒
@@johnvines4875 really? They was companies behind them Frank Farian and his entire fucking team two young poor men in their 20s with no musical experience scamming an entire indusry how the fuck does that work? As far as I'm concerned Fabrice Morvan's story is more believable given the fact that Frank Farian fucked over alot of artists like Boney M Bobby Farrell wasn't the one performing the vocals it was written and performed by none other than Frank Farian himself Bobby was just a show man like Fab and Rob Frank even fired Farrell from the group in the 80s because he wanted to sing his own vocals himself
The difference between then and now though is the industry just learned how to manipulate the artists real voice enough to where it sounds cool if not passibly decent in post production so now if they’re lip syncing people say well at least it’s to there own voice sooo meh who cares
They were great performers. That's undeniable. The media made a storm out of a glass of water and burned their reputation. They ruined their lives. Nowadays with all the special effects, Auto-Tune and so on they would have been just fine! Rob and Fab were a brilliant duo, charismatic and extra-handsome. I wouldn't have minded them lip-syncing from back then until today!
I agree that today auto tune and so forth is music, at a certain percentage. Some at 0% and some at 100%, but this is different, they DID NOT EVEN SING, they can’t sing for shit, watch 5:00 and see the way the French guy was singing.
Who cares if they lip synced. Milli Vanilli were the awesomeness in Pop Culture. They were awesome dancers and entertainers. God bless Milli Vanilli. Their style was ambitious and unique.
These guys were truly awesome ❤️❤️. They had the look, the fashion, the dance moves were off the chart !!! Milli Vanilli was the total package ❤️❤️!!! Whether they sang or not didn't matter to me. I could watch them perform all day ... Even now ❤️❤️.
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 he was a lazy bastard he could even afford to get real music contracts he he made them sign those dodgy contracts forcing them to lip sync
The sad part is that they were pioneers in what would be the norm of music from the early 90's on. It's awful that they got outed when they did. Rob paid the ultimate price for being a dupe in the music industry. These guys didn't deserve what they got for the music indstrys greed and failures. RIP Rob..
Exactly. I am SO glad my mother introduced me to the music I mostly listen to today, weirdly I returned the favor for her when I introduced her to Arctic Monkeys and both of us love them and they are one of the few acts we go to see live as they are just amazing. I have a younger cousin who is sort of into the likes of Rihanna, Katy Perry etc and I am dreading the day when I may have to take her to one of their concerts as I begrudge paying shit loads of money to see lots of dancing and messing around but no live singing.
M LT They were duped into being frauds by their manager to be a kind of competion to the New kids on the block as well as to introduce a new style of music. Unfortunately it was not their music
joe coquerre Sad you have to be a bitter person when it comes to music. Plus side there are great vids on youtube about anger management and how to have a decent polite conversation. You should check them out. Have a good day
Cally O'lonegan the really sad part is that Frank Farian earned millions on Milli Vanilli he should have payed the price but just stepped back with the money
I watched a interview with Fab telling what really happened and he is so down to earth and I feel bad for Milli Vannili they didn't know what was going on.
Nikolas Ngarso Oh what a tragedy ;o) What ever the greedy producer Frank Farian touched turned into shit. Do you remember the 'Far Corporation' doing 'Stairway To Heaven' with Robin McAuley? I could not believe he would turn a Led Zep song into some Disco crap!
Not sure about that, he was a pro and knew their voices didn't cut it to make it big. They can barely speak english and have superthick accents, especially Rob has strong southern German accent. The voice on the songs is so much better but the real voice didn't have Rob's looks and stage presence/ performing skills so the producer was actually smart to conbine both and it made them rich as well. Let's be honest their real voices would have never sold 20 million around the world.
Marcus Reindl They’re saying blame the producer due to him having the idea of Milli Vanilli and the conspiracy. He is the blame he knew this was an illegal idea he is all to blame.
The big difference between Black Box and Milli Vanilli, is that the singer's singing on MV knew they wouldn't be the face of the music. Martha Wash had zero idea Black Box was replacing her in videos and on stage.
I highly doubt it. She did this for several different producers. She simply flipped the story to take advantage of the Milli Vanilli scandal and use grievance to launch her own recording career.
Turns out that they COULD ACTUALLY SING after all. Fabrice and Rob actually have the last laugh. Fab actually rebuilt his career and can sing. Rob, unfortunately committed suicide but, he's looking down on his friend on a job well done.
@@reginalram9050 Fab could sing even then you should listen to their 1993 album Fabrice was an excellent singer just needed some more vocal coaching although agree Rob needed more improvement
It's all about the complete package in the record industry. Sure, the real singers behind the duo could sing but do they have the look? Imagine them singing in a concert (instead of Milli Vanilli), will there be screaming fans? Will there be people buying tickets or their albums? No.
@@nlee4566 like who the fuck nose Charles Shaw? He rapped in one song and think he's a rapper he's just salty because he's ugly and knew that's why Frank Farian made him a studio musician he was fired by Farian after girl you know it's true
Interesting. Quite honestly, despite the whole scandal, I still kept the album and remained loyal. I wasn't really into what they did as Rob and Fab but only as Milli Vanilli. As for my own opinion on the scandal, I pretty much have rocky feelings about it. I felt really bad for Rob and Fab and but dispute the scandal, I still have a memory that I treasure and considered priceless because its a great memory of my youth and part of me wishes that the whole thing would of continued just for more good music but than again, if it did, the end would of been a whole lot worse. I don't know, despite the horror and tragedy of the whole thing, I had a great time while it lasted and it's just something that I'll probably never be able to let go. RIP, Rob. Long Live Fab.
@@lisalisalisa7329 are you stupid? Ace of Base and ABBA don't sound like their singing accents at all. Accent for Americanized singing has nothing to do with your actual accent. Nigerian and South African singers even use American accents to sing.
I started LMAO when he started singing in the press conference to proof that was them 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was so cringe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 poor guys they looked scared for their lives.
+George Tempest _Any man wearing jackets with shoulder pads almost as wide as he is tall, looks suspicious_ In *that* category, the winner would probably be Charles Shaw, not Rob and Fab. I mean, look at that: 6:27
I remember even in school talent shows, contestants who sang HAD to sing acapella and without the use of backing tracks. That's how asinine this whole chapter of pop music really was.
Milli vanilli were fucked over by Frank Farian and the entire music industry yes they didn't read the contracts properly but it was a dodgy contract anyways Rob Pilatus even said himself he couldn't understand the contract even though it was in German the fans treated them cruelly without even knowing the full story
Exactly. I thought something was strange in the "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" video, and I didn't even speak english back then. I was just a french kid. A part didn't match, as if Rob Pilatus wasn't pronouncing it right (watch the video, the chorus. Sounds like he's miming : "the dream is OVAIR, and I never VILL forget"). It turned out to be the truth !
marius offing alot of english singers go unknowest by americans in their music until you hear them speak. they are speaking your language. and when you sing. english or american. its hard to hear an accent because the words are sung. not spoke.
has anyone ever heard abba' speak english - they were swedish and their english were terrible, i thought milli vanilli - they sang english phonetically - beyonce and christina aguilera sang in spanish phonetically
has anyone ever heard abba' speak english - they were swedish and their english were terrible, i thought they sang english phonetically - beyonce and ch
@@edencrush2223 Actually, ABBA's English wasn't that bad - Bjorn and Benny definitely could, but you could tell it wasn't their first language. Agnetha was terrible though...
I find it odd that the question was asked (and I don't just mean in this video, I mean by people in general at the time) and then quickly forgotten,; are there others? They can't have been the only ones.
On some gossip sites there is the one story how a major American woman singer is not the real singer on her records. I doubt it will ever come out who it is but the gossip is thick on that one.
i feel bad for them. and the guy rob killed himself. this is so sad. once their accents went down they did become decent singers. and its true during that era, A LOT of the artists at the time were frauds.
WELL YEAH😂 In TODA'S WORLD 2020 WORLD POP ARTISTS CAN'T SING AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IMAGE AND LOOKS BUT ZERO TALENT AND HARD EARNED WORK! 😂😂 Funny how it still happens 30 years later and nobody even bothers anymore
Orube Kdo true, sometimes its literally not her voice. Remember when everyone was like why is she singing in a British accent in Scream & shout? It was a british accent cuz it was a british girl singing
@@maxrosato1784 nope. she sang it. Unfortunately, Britney donned a fake British accent in 2007 when she went crazy so she has done a bad British accent before.
Bruce Marrow is actually right... its Now 2017 and just Look at the garbage out there today Lip Syncing and Auto-tuning EVERYTHING. what they did is really No different. Milli Vanilli just did it 1st. ;)
25 million dollars and a class action lawsuit yeah you'll get a fucking $3 dollars check did you enjoyed them at the moment? yeah so what's the fucking problem?
I think the real Milli Vanilli should've sang the songs despite having unattractive looks, hey look at the group The Deele those guys were really ugly, not sure why Kenneth Edmonds called himself baby face
+xhemexx Listen I'm only going to say this once, Frank and his crew said they were unattractive that's why Rob and Fab were used. Now put them side by side and do a survey and I guarantee Rob and Fab would be picked.
The producer tried to continue Milli Vanilli with the original singers. A second album was ready by the time Rob & Fab were fired, but it mostly failed to catch on. The American record labels ultimately rejected Milli Vanilli with the actual singers, so the album was never released in the States.
@ 2:25 that statement alone should tell you how much Milli vanili became the sacrificial lamb to protect others in the industry the whole con is right there staring in your face but everyone chooses to ignore it,still happening today sadly we are so disillusioned with smoke and mirrors of the rich and famous.
No it was fun and people were enjoying themselves and nobody gave a fuck how ridiculous you look not like nowadays when everything is about looking cool 24/7
Cheater's justice. They knew what they did and were in on it. Whether they were opportunists or charlatans is irrelevant. The only sad thing about this is that they were the only ones who got caught. The whole pop music industry is full of fake and manufactured "artists" who neither write a single song of theirs or sing with their real voices. The only difference being that while Milli Vanilli didn't sing with their real voices *at all* these others do "sing" with their real voices in a studio and then the producer has some talented singer "fill in the gaps" and it's all fixed in auto-tune. So all those "artists" who never ever sing anything but playback - they're as real as Milli Vanilli.
Okay first of all they always wanted to sing they signed the contract and spend half the money on rent . When they heard the record the producer told them they not going to sing and they was mad. They quit but the producer said they had sign a contract and spend the money already so they had to do it. They did girl you know it’s true and wanted to quit finding out they sign a contract for 3 albums. They begged to sing and when they was trying to escape the producer and sing he exposed them in from of everyone. They did not deserve all the scrutiny they got all. It’s very disappointing that in your mind set you can’t see other people POV and shoes. Not everything in life is black and white or right or wrong there’s always a gray area. These guys was passionate about music and dancing and they performed amazingly even if they was lip syncing they’re talented dancers
The only ones that didn't know the truth was the audience. Those two clowns, the industry, the record label, the mananger, the real singers, MTV... they all knew it and they chose to fool of everyone and ripp everybody off
THEY CAN NOT REALLY SING... there are so many people who work at the art, that deserve to be heard.. and this happened.. shows what the business is...music for people who do Not like music
Le'Vin Moser it was cool in the 80's. if you were 15-40yr old boy or girl in the mid to late 80's. chances are you had 2 or more outfits with shoulder pads sewed in them. as well as tight jeans. it was the in thing to have.
The main singers were Brad Howell and John Davis. Charles Shaw was the original singer on “Girl You Know It’s True” before John Davis replaced him for the other songs recorded.
I think they got a bad rap (no pun intended), look at what happened with black box, Martha Wash wasn't credited for singing the lyrics on their chart hits (in fact the whole album) and the 'face' of black box was a model who lypsynced- settled out of court and case closed, all lives intact
I want the Milli Vanilli.Album...i.never got a chsnce yo buy it.. Even though its not Rob & Fab singing. To Me Only John Davis, Brad Howell & Charles Shaw deserve sll the Recognition
lmao I never liked those fools. I'm a musician and when I saw their videos I knew some shady shit was going on. their look didn't match the vocals. I could tell singers a lot older were singing the parts
I think they were cruelly fucked over by the industry but I am happy to see Fab arise and tell the real story. Best of luck to him. He seems like a beautiful person. A Very sincere soul. I am sorry Rob left us.
Nah, you just never know. They played the game in my guess and were on board with the plan until they got fucked up, see people like to point fingers when they get caught, you should know if you are older then 21, and if you have kids, don't let them do this to you.
@@johnvines4875 It's not true.
I got the same feeling for Fab.
yes Fab is so beautiful, he does not hate or blame anyone. I'm so sick and tired of seeing these comments from people. You don't know these men or their lives, they were kids at the time (yes 22 is a kid). If you go to his channel "Fab Morvan", you will hear him sing these very songs and sing them well. Milli Vanilli are not the only people that Frank Farion did this to. They signed contracts that they legally could not get out of. On top of that they had arguments and all kind of things going on, they did not want to do this at first but after they sign the contract it was too late. No none of us really knows what went on, but you don't either😡 Fab is a very beautiful and positive person, he deserves to move on just like any other person. He's in his fifties now, let it go 😒
@@johnvines4875 really? They was companies behind them Frank Farian and his entire fucking team two young poor men in their 20s with no musical experience scamming an entire indusry how the fuck does that work? As far as I'm concerned Fabrice Morvan's story is more believable given the fact that Frank Farian fucked over alot of artists like Boney M Bobby Farrell wasn't the one performing the vocals it was written and performed by none other than Frank Farian himself Bobby was just a show man like Fab and Rob Frank even fired Farrell from the group in the 80s because he wanted to sing his own vocals himself
As much as The Music Industry does it today they may as well give them back their Grammys
With a little bit of a support, who knows😉
www.ipetitions.com/petition/give-fab-morvan-his-grammy-back
The difference between then and now though is the industry just learned how to manipulate the artists real voice enough to where it sounds cool if not passibly decent in post production so now if they’re lip syncing people say well at least it’s to there own voice sooo meh who cares
I feel very sad, I feel like crying, those two boys in the ugly hands of Frank Farian and his greed, horrible industry. The two guys were good.
i can't believe this was 24 years ago already. where does time go
Ikr.. 😢
31 years ago now
I got all youse topped. 33 years now!!!
They were great performers. That's undeniable. The media made a storm out of a glass of water and burned their reputation. They ruined their lives. Nowadays with all the special effects, Auto-Tune and so on they would have been just fine! Rob and Fab were a brilliant duo, charismatic and extra-handsome. I wouldn't have minded them lip-syncing from back then until today!
you damm right todays music is most fake Milli Vanilli was hanged by daylight WHY?
So if I rape or murder someone, and the media exposed me (report it), then they ruined my life? so the mistake not from me? Got it.
I agree that today auto tune and so forth is music, at a certain percentage. Some at 0% and some at 100%, but this is different, they DID NOT EVEN SING, they can’t sing for shit, watch 5:00 and see the way the French guy was singing.
@@johnvines4875 he's German you idiot the black guy is french
That dude in the glasses predicted the future of music. He said where they prefer visual presence over musical talent. 6isx9ine perfect example
And many others
LOL that's an example of common prison level intellect
these guys could sing!!!!they should have been given a chance to sing....
Duane Mac maybe autotune cld hv helped
Duane Mac actually Rob could not, he was horrible
@@GenuwineG on their solo album his kinda different. Still not good.
@@edencrush2223 Fab is a singer and sings LIVE.
Genuwine6799G Go listen to Don’t give up the fight and you’ll see he can sing.
Charles Shaw is jealous
Charles Shaw is so shady.
David Maine
Looks like *he* didn't mind sounding like _sour grapes_
+Arthur Hakhverdian He still sounds like sour grapes.
Brizzio
Very much so, yeah.
Lmao for sure
He's bitter
Who cares if they lip synced. Milli Vanilli were the awesomeness in Pop Culture. They were awesome dancers and entertainers. God bless Milli Vanilli. Their style was ambitious and unique.
That press conference was brutal. I felt bad for them. Reporters acted like they murdered someone.
These guys were truly awesome ❤️❤️. They had the look, the fashion, the dance moves were off the chart !!! Milli Vanilli was the total package ❤️❤️!!! Whether they sang or not didn't matter to me. I could watch them perform all day ... Even now ❤️❤️.
Well the fact they really couldn't sing means they weren't the total package lol
@@JazzyUte they were the total package to ME
Can't believe this was a news then. They would have been in shock of their life if they were to see the music playing in 2016
no. the 80's were known as the worst era for music, rock was glam and appearance was more important than anything.
i strongly disagree with you the 80s is actually the best decade of music with legends like michael jackson and whitney houston and prince
White Rock fans only complain about the 80's......
Right, music today is completely about "appearance" and "packaging"...not talent,. Its so sad.
@@keneshamarshall3062 Facts
Charles Shaw ego is disgraceful
Right here he was pissed but he seemed nice when Oprah interviewed him years later after this.
@@sc30002001 Yeah he seemed peaceful.
why he acting all bitter he acting like milli vanilli were not tricked and forced to lip sync
Because he clearly felt Rob & Fab were getting credit for work he did.
What a damn shame autotune didn't come out until years later.
Frank could have put them in lessons
@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 he was a lazy bastard he could even afford to get real music contracts he he made them sign those dodgy contracts forcing them to lip sync
These guys were so ahead of their time. Now there are hundreds of performers who can't sing for shit making albums.
The sad part is that they were pioneers in what would be the norm of music from the early 90's on. It's awful that they got outed when they did. Rob paid the ultimate price for being a dupe in the music industry. These guys didn't deserve what they got for the music indstrys greed and failures. RIP Rob..
Exactly. I am SO glad my mother introduced me to the music I mostly listen to today, weirdly I returned the favor for her when I introduced her to Arctic Monkeys and both of us love them and they are one of the few acts we go to see live as they are just amazing. I have a younger cousin who is sort of into the likes of Rihanna, Katy Perry etc and I am dreading the day when I may have to take her to one of their concerts as I begrudge paying shit loads of money to see lots of dancing and messing around but no live singing.
M LT They were duped into being frauds by their manager to be a kind of competion to the New kids on the block as well as to introduce a new style of music. Unfortunately it was not their music
joe coquerre Sad you have to be a bitter person when it comes to music. Plus side there are great vids on youtube about anger management and how to have a decent polite conversation. You should check them out. Have a good day
Cally O'lonegan the really sad part is that Frank Farian earned millions on Milli Vanilli he should have payed the price but just stepped back with the money
Damn, now I feel really old, I remember this as Yesterday, I was in my teens!!
Imagine if every mom would sue record companies for fraud today😂 THE INDUSTRY WOULD COLLAPSE AND FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂💯
I watched a interview with Fab telling what really happened and he is so down to earth and I feel bad for Milli Vannili they didn't know what was going on.
for me Milli Vanilli is ROB&FAB they all been real Milli Vanilli love you guys RIP Rob
It's the producer's fault
Nikolas Ngarso Oh what a tragedy ;o) What ever the greedy producer Frank Farian touched turned into shit. Do you remember the 'Far Corporation' doing 'Stairway To Heaven' with Robin McAuley? I could not believe he would turn a Led Zep song into some Disco crap!
George Tempest And Bobby Kimball, David Paich and Steve Lukather from Toto. Wow.
Iggy Montpellier Yes mate - the list goes on, eh?
Not sure about that, he was a pro and knew their voices didn't cut it to make it big. They can barely speak english and have superthick accents, especially Rob has strong southern German accent. The voice on the songs is so much better but the real voice didn't have Rob's looks and stage presence/ performing skills so the producer was actually smart to conbine both and it made them rich as well. Let's be honest their real voices would have never sold 20 million around the world.
Marcus Reindl They’re saying blame the producer due to him having the idea of Milli Vanilli and the conspiracy. He is the blame he knew this was an illegal idea he is all to blame.
The big difference between Black Box and Milli Vanilli, is that the singer's singing on MV knew they wouldn't be the face of the music. Martha Wash had zero idea Black Box was replacing her in videos and on stage.
I highly doubt it. She did this for several different producers. She simply flipped the story to take advantage of the Milli Vanilli scandal and use grievance to launch her own recording career.
A show is a show - magic in many ways in not real ,but folks can't get enough of it
I don't care I just miss them
Turns out that they COULD ACTUALLY SING after all. Fabrice and Rob actually have the last laugh. Fab actually rebuilt his career and can sing. Rob, unfortunately committed suicide but, he's looking down on his friend on a job well done.
margaret brown if only autotune was around
If Rob was here he'll be so proud of fabrice but I know that he's smiling at fab
Actually Rob couldnt sing... Fab was ok and is a much better singer these days
@@reginalram9050 Fab could sing even then you should listen to their 1993 album Fabrice was an excellent singer just needed some more vocal coaching although agree Rob needed more improvement
It's all about the complete package in the record industry. Sure, the real singers behind the duo could sing but do they have the look? Imagine them singing in a concert (instead of Milli Vanilli), will there be screaming fans? Will there be people buying tickets or their albums? No.
what is charles shaw salty about, he's wack anyways. So he rapped in girl u know its true and he sounds corny.
He sounded real corny. Like his rap was so good.
@@nlee4566 like who the fuck nose Charles Shaw? He rapped in one song and think he's a rapper he's just salty because he's ugly and knew that's why Frank Farian made him a studio musician he was fired by Farian after girl you know it's true
He likely wanted money from the producer.
Interesting. Quite honestly, despite the whole scandal, I still kept the album and remained loyal. I wasn't really into what they did as Rob and Fab but only as Milli Vanilli. As for my own opinion on the scandal, I pretty much have rocky feelings about it. I felt really bad for Rob and Fab and but dispute the scandal, I still have a memory that I treasure and considered priceless because its a great memory of my youth and part of me wishes that the whole thing would of continued just for more good music but than again, if it did, the end would of been a whole lot worse. I don't know, despite the horror and tragedy of the whole thing, I had a great time while it lasted and it's just something that I'll probably never be able to let go. RIP, Rob. Long Live Fab.
"Credibility of the Grammy" HAHAHAHAHA, omg... is he serious?
Yes, the Recording Academy is a very important organization in the music industry.
The boy and his momma want their $9 back! 😂🤪
lol at the people suing at the end. Should we all sue for the fake autotune we hear now?
it was very sad..
their singing voices did not match the speaking voices.
My speaking voice doesn't sound like my singing voice
...but singing like a black American gospel singer...lol
@@exoduskimkai3844 does that mean I'm a lip singer?
@@lisalisalisa7329 are you stupid? Ace of Base and ABBA don't sound like their singing accents at all. Accent for Americanized singing has nothing to do with your actual accent. Nigerian and South African singers even use American accents to sing.
You had to be lucky to catch it on linear television.
I started LMAO when he started singing in the press conference to proof that was them 😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was so cringe 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 poor guys they looked scared for their lives.
Any man wearing jackets with shoulder pads almost as wide as he is tall, looks suspicious :oD
George Tempest WHAT ABOUT RECORD COMPANY THEY LOOK TO ME MUCH MORE
MILI VANILI WERE VERY YOUNG PEOPLE SOMEBODY IS BEHIND THIS STORY******************
+George Tempest
_Any man wearing jackets with shoulder pads almost as wide as he is tall, looks suspicious_
In *that* category, the winner would probably be Charles Shaw, not Rob and Fab. I mean, look at that: 6:27
They got style, that's all
So WHAT ? They didn't sing WHO cares??? MILLI VANILLI the best and Super Sexy too. They are AMAZING ❣️❣️
It's a pity cause the music was great
I remember even in school talent shows, contestants who sang HAD to sing acapella and without the use of backing tracks. That's how asinine this whole chapter of pop music really was.
Vlad tv brought me here anyone else
Yeah
Fuck that i still listen to their music or whoever music it was.
The real singers were Charles Shaw, Johnny Davies, and music by Frank Farian.
Why were they getting blamed; blame the man behind it.
Because they were the guys out in front and nobody in America knew who their producer was. He only was well known in his home country of Germany.
Milli vanilli were fucked over by Frank Farian and the entire music industry yes they didn't read the contracts properly but it was a dodgy contract anyways Rob Pilatus even said himself he couldn't understand the contract even though it was in German the fans treated them cruelly without even knowing the full story
The two concerned could hardly speak fluent English in interviews, so I am amazed that people didn't put two and two together.
Exactly. I thought something was strange in the "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" video, and I didn't even speak english back then. I was just a french kid. A part didn't match, as if Rob Pilatus wasn't pronouncing it right (watch the video, the chorus. Sounds like he's miming : "the dream is OVAIR, and I never VILL forget"). It turned out to be the truth !
marius offing alot of english singers go unknowest by americans in their music until you hear them speak. they are speaking your language. and when you sing. english or american. its hard to hear an accent because the words are sung. not spoke.
has anyone ever heard abba' speak english - they were swedish and their english were terrible, i thought milli vanilli - they sang english phonetically - beyonce and christina aguilera sang in spanish phonetically
has anyone ever heard abba' speak english - they were swedish and their english were terrible, i thought they sang english phonetically - beyonce and ch
@@edencrush2223 Actually, ABBA's English wasn't that bad - Bjorn and Benny definitely could, but you could tell it wasn't their first language. Agnetha was terrible though...
It's ironic, since the milli vanilli album has a sticker crediting the real artist behind the vocals in Europe only.
That likely only was put on after Rob & Fab were exposed.
Milli Vanilli forever!
so singers with no talent is nothing new
+Jake Miles this was in the 80s. People actually sang back then.
+Andrew Behrend Now every popstar is a Milli Vanilli. These boys were just ahead of their time really.
the overreaction is real. most popstars of our generation have really good voices
Andrew Behrend not really, pepples couldn't sing, neither can janet jackson and I find most of the pop singers of that era br talentless.
These guys had talent.
Cousin Bruce Marrow never lied: "a facade" is all pop music is?! :S
I find it odd that the question was asked (and I don't just mean in this video, I mean by people in general at the time) and then quickly forgotten,; are there others? They can't have been the only ones.
On some gossip sites there is the one story how a major American woman singer is not the real singer on her records. I doubt it will ever come out who it is but the gossip is thick on that one.
Still good tunes.
Does someone have the video which shows Frank F. revealing the truth? So curious I am.
i feel bad for them. and the guy rob killed himself. this is so sad. once their accents went down they did become decent singers. and its true during that era, A LOT of the artists at the time were frauds.
Rob died of an accidental drug overdose
WELL YEAH😂 In TODA'S WORLD 2020 WORLD POP ARTISTS CAN'T SING AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IMAGE AND LOOKS BUT ZERO TALENT AND HARD EARNED WORK! 😂😂 Funny how it still happens 30 years later and nobody even bothers anymore
Imagine Britney Spears in that time...
@Notorious1503 Maybe it's not Britney's voice sometimes.
Orube Kdo true, sometimes its literally not her voice. Remember when everyone was like why is she singing in a British accent in Scream & shout? It was a british accent cuz it was a british girl singing
She actually sang her songs so this was a fail shady remark.
@@maxrosato1784 nope. she sang it. Unfortunately, Britney donned a fake British accent in 2007 when she went crazy so she has done a bad British accent before.
@@sware84 no she didn't it was Tulisa from N-Dubz there was a lawsuit and everything
4:55 OH MY GAWD I had to lol at that one....
I don't care, I like those guys.
Bruce Marrow is actually right... its Now 2017 and just Look at the garbage out there today Lip Syncing and Auto-tuning EVERYTHING. what they did is really No different. Milli Vanilli just did it 1st. ;)
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Lmao I love Charlie Shaw's bluntness.
Where ae these from???
25 million dollars and a class action lawsuit yeah you'll get a fucking $3 dollars check did you enjoyed them at the moment? yeah so what's the fucking problem?
ROB & FAB FOR EVER MILLI VANILLI
ROB I LOVE YOU ❤❤❤
thats all there is lip sync and auto tune today , back then this was a big thing because people needed talent and had talent
"The credibility of the grammys depends on it" lool
Hahahaha I love this story 😂😂😂😂
I think the real Milli Vanilli should've sang the songs despite having unattractive looks, hey look at the group The Deele those guys were really ugly, not sure why Kenneth Edmonds called himself baby face
+xhemexx Listen I'm only going to say this once, Frank and his crew said they were unattractive that's why Rob and Fab were used. Now put them side by side and do a survey and I guarantee Rob and Fab would be picked.
The success would not be that big.
The producer tried to continue Milli Vanilli with the original singers. A second album was ready by the time Rob & Fab were fired, but it mostly failed to catch on. The American record labels ultimately rejected Milli Vanilli with the actual singers, so the album was never released in the States.
Gotta be 1 the Best Money Making scams ever. Doing so little basically jumping around looking pretty. Bet they made more cash than any 9-5 job
@ 2:25 that statement alone should tell you how much Milli vanili became the sacrificial lamb to protect others in the industry the whole con is right there staring in your face but everyone chooses to ignore it,still happening today sadly we are so disillusioned with smoke and mirrors of the rich and famous.
In fact,these young guys are want to sing
"This was a sign of the times!" just look at Bieber, spears, perry and minaj! Oh.......thats singing?😳
Bella Shaw is a beautiful lady.
nicki sent me here and wow.... transformer verse
I feel bad for them but man was the dancing foolish and ridiculous looking back then.
No it was fun and people were enjoying themselves and nobody gave a fuck how ridiculous you look not like nowadays when everything is about looking cool 24/7
Cheater's justice. They knew what they did and were in on it. Whether they were opportunists or charlatans is irrelevant.
The only sad thing about this is that they were the only ones who got caught. The whole pop music industry is full of fake and manufactured "artists" who neither write a single song of theirs or sing with their real voices. The only difference being that while Milli Vanilli didn't sing with their real voices *at all* these others do "sing" with their real voices in a studio and then the producer has some talented singer "fill in the gaps" and it's all fixed in auto-tune. So all those "artists" who never ever sing anything but playback - they're as real as Milli Vanilli.
Okay first of all they always wanted to sing they signed the contract and spend half the money on rent . When they heard the record the producer told them they not going to sing and they was mad. They quit but the producer said they had sign a contract and spend the money already so they had to do it. They did girl you know it’s true and wanted to quit finding out they sign a contract for 3 albums. They begged to sing and when they was trying to escape the producer and sing he exposed them in from of everyone. They did not deserve all the scrutiny they got all. It’s very disappointing that in your mind set you can’t see other people POV and shoes. Not everything in life is black and white or right or wrong there’s always a gray area. These guys was passionate about music and dancing and they performed amazingly even if they was lip syncing they’re talented dancers
The only ones that didn't know the truth was the audience. Those two clowns, the industry, the record label, the mananger, the real singers, MTV... they all knew it and they chose to fool of everyone and ripp everybody off
Very true.
I heard this
THEY CAN NOT REALLY SING... there are so many people who work at the art, that deserve to be heard.. and this happened.. shows what the business is...music for people who do Not like music
What's worse than their lip syncing? The shoulder pads.
Le'Vin Moser it was cool in the 80's. if you were 15-40yr old boy or girl in the mid to late 80's. chances are you had 2 or more outfits with shoulder pads sewed in them. as well as tight jeans. it was the in thing to have.
Is this about Drake not writing his rhymes?
QUÉ HUBIERAN HECHO SI EN ESA ÉPOCA SE HUBIERA ESCUCHADO A BAD BUNNY CANTANDO "HOY TENGO A UNA MAÑANA A OTRA, ¡¡¡¡ME LAS VOY A LLEVAR A TODAS...!!!"
😂
so who sang the song?
The main singers were Brad Howell and John Davis. Charles Shaw was the original singer on “Girl You Know It’s True” before John Davis replaced him for the other songs recorded.
De todos modos cantan chingón ya dije
In today's show biz is the norm. They would be just part of the pack.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Milli Vanilli, Phony Baloney!
this is BS,when they saw the millions and grammy they asked for a major cut,MV.could sing,what a waste of life!!!
I think they got a bad rap (no pun intended), look at what happened with black box, Martha Wash wasn't credited for singing the lyrics on their chart hits (in fact the whole album) and the 'face' of black box was a model who lypsynced- settled out of court and case closed, all lives intact
Wasn't C&C Music Factory using a pretty black model for their video as well when Martha Walsh was singing Gonna Make You Swear as well?
@@Marc-zi5cqThe person they used was a singer that was actually a part of the group, Zelma Davis. She sang on their hit single “Here We Go.”
Like they say,,, theres other famous singers out there that cant sing. like beyonce.
Sorry, but Beyonce can actually sing.
saj8 And has a rocking body.
beyonce has a great vocal rang with a flexible voice and she can sing live. don't hate it's not cute
Jake Miles Her sister too, Solange did some great tracks with Chromeo.
+Jake Miles who gives a shit. if she thinks beyonce sucks then so be it youre not the carter family's lawyer.
at less rob died with honor, NOT like his soo called friend LIVING A LIE!!!
What are you talking about? Fab acknowledged everything a longtime ago
Yeah now they feel bad! After the shits been exposed! Where's all the money? Did they give that back too?!
Brittney Spears lip syncs every time
But the big difference is that she lip synced to her own voice. These guys lip synced to other session vocalists entirely
Ashlee Simpson really can't sing
vous etes pour rien!!!! cest les producteurs qui ont tout foiré!!!! Vous aurais du comme meme continué a chanter!!
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Exactement !!!les Milli Vanilli restent Rob et Fab.Rip Rob😪
I loved it when they actually attempted to sing. Neither one of them could sing a fucking lick!
I want the Milli Vanilli.Album...i.never got a chsnce yo buy it..
Even though its not Rob & Fab singing.
To Me Only John Davis, Brad Howell & Charles Shaw deserve sll the Recognition
Oh my goodness...4.52: they can't sing! I cracked up! Like these guys though and their producer needs to hang his head in shame.
The 80's are as dead as fried chicken, thank God
but his right they can't sing
lmao I never liked those fools. I'm a musician and when I saw their videos I knew some shady shit was going on. their look didn't match the vocals. I could tell singers a lot older were singing the parts
Yeah but I like their style and dance moves.
Rob could sing marginally. Fab not at all.
Greg Stephens Other way around, Fab actually can sing... but Rob could not, partially because of his thick German accent.
I think you inverted the names.
Fab was the one that could sing Rob could've sing listen to their song we can get it on for yourselves