The idea or inspiration comes from the SWTOR vid docs that came out prior the release. They delivered lore from an actual in game character. While I'm no ingame character, delivering it from within the universe allows for more immersion.
3 years later and the lore you present fits very well with the Warmind DLC. One I find is people are ravenous for, they want mysteries to discover and piece together and Bungie and Vicarious Visions have done a great job giving us that in the DLC. I'll be going back over all of your vids! Thanks for all of your past efforts and I hope you continue giving us more in the future!
Once upon a time, there were 10 warminds, those warminds were the protectors of humanity. They controlled defense constructs and WMD's all over the solar system. They even gave birth to the exo's, humanity's machine children. But one day, something happened, an event only referred to as "The collapse" struck the solar system, the event was swift in both its preparation and delivery and it was exceedingly overwhelming, even for something as magnanimous as a warmind, the force of such an event was so hard to control. As a result, the warminds perished in the process, except one that chose to fake its death and remain derelict until the right time comes. Except... the other nine did not perish, not even close. Instead, the nine other warminds made a secret compact with an alien force. A force that may not be related to the Fallen, Hive, Cabal or even the Vex. The terms and details of that compact are unclear but what's important is that those warminds gave birth to a new spawn of human children, not machines like the exo, but awoken from a long slumber. Eventually, the warminds lost themselves in the darkness and became forever known as "The nine" Speculation based on Grimoire card: Allies-Legends & mysteries-Ghost fragment 2.
I read something on the bungie forums about Rasputin sacrificing almost the whole human race on purpose, because the only way to fight the darkness is with light, which is souls. He then could fight off the darkness, but only for a while (hence the last war which is to come). He didnt sacrifice everyone, since his goal is to preserve the human race. He also sent some into space, but that turned out wrong, just look at all the ships where the awoken lives. They came to be at that time too.
Wally, please do a theory video on the traveler, about it actually being the darkness (there is ALOT to back this up and it sounds like it could be true, like it is hidden away from us.) I was on patrol on venus today, I was hiding away from fallen, a vandal spotted me and said something, it was quite disorted but it sounded like "It's the darkness, kill it!" strange right? Can also explain why the enemies shoot you on site without hesitation. Look at early art of this game more than 2 years ago, bungie were talking about the black garden in a video along with a image, its like the black garden we see today but it was curved, like if it was inside a sphere. It also had a white backround and was craked apart at the bottom. Very similar to the traveler? Like this comment so wally can see.
The fallen speak a different language, your brain just finds something to sound like something you know to let you understand it, but tip his can be possible very good theory
For that last part don't you think that the vex could have been made by the traveler and then the vex turned evil and started to disobey it's orders and then started to create the light (ghosts and guardians)
I'm not sure to be honest. I know the original design of the game held the notion that the Traveler is supposed to be evil, but I have a feeling the original design, and what we current play are different. I will take a look into it though.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker We've been awoken from death to mindlessly serve an unknown entity with no knowledge of what has happened to the human race, other than what this entities "speaker" tells us. For all we known the entire human race is dead. and the aliens we fight are trying to destroy the being that enslaves us.
It is possible, but none of the current evidence points towards that. The collapse happened, pieces of humanity survived. Not everyone left in the City is a guardian, only a select few.
Great vids, keep em up man. I was playing Iron Banner and getting my ass kicked in this one round, something like 20,000 to 3,000. I looked at the roster and it was none other than Sir Wallen leading the opposing team. Gat Dangit!
One thing missed is Rasputin's error distress signal, something old Computers are known to do, plays the first movement from Tchikovsky's Sixth Symphony -- Adagio, Allegro non Tropo aka Pathetique. The Sixth Symphony in some cases has been theorized to be Tchikovsky's suicide note, with 'star-crossed' musical notations. Further, Rasputin can be heard in the Forgotten Shore transponders and in one snippet, references Dostovsky's The Brother's Kazamov. Interesting tidbits.
Some one may have already brought this up but there's a grim card titled mystery. I believe it is Rasputin talking, I think he talks about his fellow war minds and how they fell, how he was made different (which makes sense that you have your strongest war mind to defend earth our home world) made to learn and how utterly powerless he was against IT but by shrugging off the millions to ashes (stopping his protection of humanity) and by doing so he learned something vital, something he has used in ordered to battle IT and win.
The Picture at 6:42 is from Halo 5: Guardians.. it's the Sangheili Home world.. why is it on a Destiny Lore Video? Haha. -- However, I did love the video. Well spoken.
Holy shit that music made me feel like I should be fighting off giant numbers of hive and watching my buds get over whelmed while still fighting off the hive dramatically
Considering the theory that the Travler is 'evil' and your recent rescue of rasputin i can only imagine yo being able to harness the warmind's weaponry (future installments of course) to bring down the traveler or weaken its defenses.
Can you imagine if The City can earn the graces of Rasputin? Access to all of that Golden Age technology...weapons that make Suros Regime and Gjallahorn look like a Khostov, armed Jumpships & Sparrows...the possibilities, man.
KAKADOUJACK He must not have the DLC, lol. When he opened the door Eris even says "he normally doesn't invite guests", so he was aware of the City, the Guardians and the Traveler long before we came into the picture. AmazingGaming is obviously not amazing when it comes to paying attention to detail.
Just found your channel through Planet Destiny. Great vids man, keep em up. On top of that all the cool theories in the comments below are really great.
You know what they did well on the DLC? The bosses. Omnigul was actually seen more than once, and you got to witness her power rather than have Peter dinklage talk it up. The bosses had various effects that were terrifying at first (especially when you couldn't double jump).
This is so great; yet another part of this terrific lore series. The warminds sound so fascinating ... How were they defeated? Can they be revived? Can we awaken them and take back that which humanity has lost?
Sir wallen have you done an episode covering the guardian's? I feel that it would be very interesting to delve into the creation and skills of each character
My favorite bit of Rasputin lore is the grimore card where he talks of his encounter with the darkness. I also think it's interesting that Rasputin refers to the Traveler and "gardener" and "she" throughout. If you want to read the whole card it's Ghost Fragment: Mysteries. Here's my favorite part. "I am alone. I survived alone. I cast off the sheild and shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well. IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the Gardener and she held power beyond me but the Gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way."
What if the traveler came to earth because of the warminds? Rasputin says "I think, therefore I am", which is a quote from Descartes, so Rasputin has became self aware.
Your faithful viewer Neko here with another idea! When you mentioned Valus Ta'aurc and the flayers in this review, it reminded me of how easy it was, playing through strikes, to just do what our ghost told us, and 'go here' or 'kill this guy.' Even when listening intently to the dialogue/cutscenes, I left without a true understanding of WHY we had to stop certain beings or events from happening. So I was thinking that if you are ever hurting for new material, maybe a deeper look at these key 'named' subjects and their goals? A deeper look at strikes and the purpose of our mission in them may reinvigorate our drive to complete them beyond farming? :p (Edit: Also, keep up the good work! As usual, loving every video!)
imagine how confused rasputin must be to suddenly awaken after so long to a bunch of strange creatures trying to mess with it when all of a sudden a lone figure shows up and begins mowing through the first group "who is gonna win?" "which side do i want to win?" then the lone figure triumphs and simply checks to make sure they didnt miss anything and then leaves just as quickly as they came as far as first impressions go rasputin now knows guardians dont take shit from anybody which he may view as a trait he wants in an ally or something he makes note of while studying his new enemy
Thank you so much on clearing this up for me! I gotta say i didn't follow the story that well so i thought Rasputin was a fallen leader xD. When the dlc came out and we had to defend Rasputin i was confused so i headed to youtube and found this gem of a video! Subed and liked Great vid!
Great job Wally! I hope that we will get more action from Rasputin in future content.Being Russian myself, it intrigues me how Bungie has created a character that is inspires both awe and hate from his namesake.
Why did Rasputin initially stop fighting? When the Darkness first came, Wallen states that the Warmind just gave up. Does this Artificial Intelligence have the capacity to override all that it was created to do and give up? Or was this giving up apart of a bigger plan? Did Rasputin come to the conclusion that without prior knowledge,he was not going to be able to defeat and successfully defend his creator from the Darkness? Does he wait to gather enough intelligence on the enemy so that in the future, he will finally defeat that of which bested him? Or does he know all is lost? Questions.....questions.....questions. So much mystery.
Honestly, I just don't know. Survival instinct could of kicked in, or he could have rewritten his laws on protecting human life. He could have been given an order to do so. There are as you said, so much mystery surrounding these occurrences.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Hmm Maybe. Self-preservation is usually universal with living organisms. From what you read, Rasputin seems more computer than self-aware being. I also highly doubt he was told to stop fighting, but then again I wasn't there at the Bungie story board meeting. I hope Bungie really elaborates on the exact purpose of these Warminds because if they have the ability to stop fighting, what do they exist for? If they were create to defend humanity at all cost, I am certain that means until destruction.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Well it was great pondering these questions with you. So many possibilities not enough definites. Are you on Xbone? If so I will be sure to hit you up. Merry Christmas and Have a Happy New Year!
Fun fact: the symbol on the door to the Seraphim Vault (where rasputin is) is also the symbol for the "pocket infinity" upgrade for Pocket infinity. Coincide?
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker There's a Grimoire Card in the Allies Section under Legends & Mysteries that I have called - Ghost Fragment: Mysteries, the opening quote is: ...from a red space before victory. This is obviously Rasputin talking about when the Darkness came. I don't know if you missed it or don't have it. But here it is: " I bear an old name. It cannot be killed. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too but Titanomachy came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone. They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn. Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT. Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way. " This explains why Rasputin is not responding to Guardians attempts to communicate. Rasputin has realized that we are a burden and has shrugged us off. I think that he has concluded that in order to beat the Darkness he must not be burdened with our protection. He must defeat the Darkness through any means necessary and not worry about our survival.
I hate rasputin. You wanna know why? He is the "greatest defense construct ever devised by humanity" or something along those lines... Yet, when he is in danger (seraphim vault mission) his initial reaction is to play classical fucking music
D Stee exactly, we saved him but were not talking about the mission were talking about why he didn't help during the cabal invasion where we lost the tower and citadel and all our loot and and powers in Destiny 2
Nice work bro, really digging the vids. I got a theory about the fallen. I think they got that name because they are dead or they are the ones that were chosen by the traveller before the humans. If you look in fallen areas they have white paintings that resembles the Ghost shells , maybe they tried to unlock the secrets of how the traveller is able to give life through light and so they became, the fallen. Plus to release the Archon priest they had to RESTORE SOUL, sounds like the same things ghosts do. Idk I'm just spitballing here.
Brandon Sarrasin maybe towards the end of it all, but I doubt it the traveler is not just capable of breathing life unto planets without some defenses or near omniscient intelligence. The dark mirrors that Xur speaks of... now they may be able to send the traveler running, in this case, to us. The fragment infused with darkness and the vex heart in the garden are two pieces to this puzzle, or so I believe. In other words nothing can awaken or permanently destroy the traveller BUT another being/entity that has relative power, i do think the traveller may have unleashed a certain power that IT could not control. And the darkness was born, all I know is that in some time in the future we will all see the enemy had a common goal all along. Maybe the jovians have a rogue amongst their midst ? Maybe we the guardians do ? Idk but when we reach mercury, Jupiter and hopefully Saturn we might be closer to the answers
The report from the hunter on Mars may not be referring to Rasputin. Grigori Rasputin doesn't have any discernible connection with a spear, could This be foreshadowing the awakening of the Mars Warmind, Charlemagne?
Bane Harlock No, from what Rasputin has said directly: His brothers and sisters are dead. Only he remains. He is alone, made unlike the others to learn, adapt, and evolve.
But just as Rasputin itself went into a dormant state during the collapse and has only recently reactivated, could not the other warminds have entered such a state? To Rasputin attempting to contact them it would appear as though they were destroyed. Rasputin's perception is not an uncontrovertible truth.
I again reference history in the Destiny Universe (which you should read more of), He had direct control above all other Warminds. At any point he would be able to tell if they went dormant or not. Even if so, none of them but himself had such an option to do so. He was the most powerful created and in charge of all defenses in the Sol System, at one point, clearly stating this before earth fell. Rasputin thinks for itself unlike the other Warminds. He now acts above humanity only to fulfill his goal. If they were alive, he would know. Just because something is dormant doesn't mean you cannot detect it. Especially when dealing with something more intelligent than Humanity.
Interesting. That's very clarifying for me. I must confess I knew VERY little about the Warminds and Rasputin. Though I did find them interesting, funnily enough.
Can you do a lore video on the last word and the thorn and there previous owners and the story behind them. Its one of the things I have wanted to know since I was introduced to these weapons.
So I was creating my 3rd titan, and its boring. And my god listening to all your series make it so much more interesting and less boring. Thank you for all these theories :)
Hey Sir Wallen, I have request, it's on Toland the Shattered. He has appeared time and time again whenever I read in game descriptions and such. However, of the grimoire cards I have, none explicitly explain who he was. What I do know is that he owned Shadow Price, created Bad Juju and died in the raid on Crota. But, like Dredgen yor and Kabr, I feel like owning a peice of his gear isn't all his legacy is to amount to. I'd love to learn a bit more on Toland the shattered, what made him "shattered", who was he to Eris Morn? And, why do I feel as if he is still alive, in one way or another.
It sucks clearly, but the larger problem is the fact a group of script kiddies can do this. These aren't hackers, they are people using botnets any potato can purchase.
Im pretty sure based on forums I've read that interpret the grimoire that Rasputin had to shut down all earths defensive systems to sacrifice most of human kind so that the traveler could use their light to stop the darkness - www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72370352
Theres been a thought thats been bugging me sinnce the beta. Do we shoot bullets or lasers. Weapons like assault, scout pulse rifles, shot guns sniper and machine guns use bullet like ammunition but make laser sounds. Not to mention hand cannons fusion rifles and rocket launchers use a sort of battery pack. Some one help what are we using to shoot our enemies
I think someone else already said something like this in the comments below, but what does everyone think of the chances that the warminds and the Exo are connected? Both are incredibly advanced war machines that only recently found a new purpose in their "life". Maybe we'll find a new warmind in the stone crypt, one that used to oversee the creation of the Exo to make sure not one certain power could use them against humanity itself.
Wally, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the use of Tchaikovsky's sixth and final symphony as it relates to either bungie or rasputin in 'The last warmind' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._6_%28Tchaikovsky%29
Hi Wally, I was playing with my friend on the dlc and we were talking about the warminds and how many were there. I told my friend that there would be 7 warminds since there are seven continents. Is this sort of correct?
Wth I didn't get a notification that you had new vids... dude I'm going to be exploring the VOG soon for secrets... I know there is something big that no one has found yet
It's kind of cool how Bungie chose terms like "the collapse", similar to the scientific term of the "Big Crunch" of the Universe. Then there is the "Big Bang", which is similar to the "Golden Age" in Destiny. Something to think about..
Maybe the Vex are this Warmind. Maybe at some point in the future he found a way to become like the vex are. Idk i just noticed that the Warmind started to make a network with other AI of the Sol... just an idea
Great vid man. could you kind of tell us when you're reading a card because for me it's hard to tell when you're saying something of your idea or reading from the card everything else is great :)
I have a question when you go to skywatch and go into the loot cave there is a thing where you can disturb the remains it says a million deaths are not enough for master Raul
I really like the way you talk about it as if we were in the actual destiny universe, it's unique and really cool
The idea or inspiration comes from the SWTOR vid docs that came out prior the release. They delivered lore from an actual in game character. While I'm no ingame character, delivering it from within the universe allows for more immersion.
Sweet
Unskippable full 30 second ads before videos are fucking killer
Add Blocker dude. Just saying if it is really bothering you.
He is getting close to the truth...perhaps too close.
you should sell the "Don't Touch Me" gauntlets for the hunter. But wait until next week so I can get enough strange coins
William Oliver sadly voidfang vestments is the only thing I have in stock for warlocks and a few sun breakers. thank you come again.
Xur please have the Knucklehead Radar re upgrade this week
can i have anyy free exotics?
Gjallarhorn WHY CANNOT I NOT FIND YOUUUUUUUUUU
3 years later and the lore you present fits very well with the Warmind DLC. One I find is people are ravenous for, they want mysteries to discover and piece together and Bungie and Vicarious Visions have done a great job giving us that in the DLC. I'll be going back over all of your vids! Thanks for all of your past efforts and I hope you continue giving us more in the future!
Once upon a time, there were 10 warminds, those warminds were the protectors of humanity. They controlled defense constructs and WMD's all over the solar system. They even gave birth to the exo's, humanity's machine children.
But one day, something happened, an event only referred to as "The collapse" struck the solar system, the event was swift in both its preparation and delivery and it was exceedingly overwhelming, even for something as magnanimous as a warmind, the force of such an event was so hard to control. As a result, the warminds perished in the process, except one that chose to fake its death and remain derelict until the right time comes.
Except... the other nine did not perish, not even close. Instead, the nine other warminds made a secret compact with an alien force. A force that may not be related to the Fallen, Hive, Cabal or even the Vex. The terms and details of that compact are unclear but what's important is that those warminds gave birth to a new spawn of human children, not machines like the exo, but awoken from a long slumber.
Eventually, the warminds lost themselves in the darkness and became forever known as "The nine"
Speculation based on Grimoire card: Allies-Legends & mysteries-Ghost fragment 2.
Maybe xur's species were the ones that made a deal with the "nine" seeing that Xur is dubbed as an agent of the nine
Invictus maybe...
Sir Wallen read this pls!!
BUMP
This is really solid, a lot of this is confirmed, minus the exo creation part, but it seems pretty damn spot on.
Wally you should contact BUNGIE and ask to become a pod cast in the tower it would make the game so much greater
Nice one, great job. Relevant concept art was a nice touch. Also good job on the solo war mind mission, that one can be tough, you made it look easy.
I read something on the bungie forums about Rasputin sacrificing almost the whole human race on purpose, because the only way to fight the darkness is with light, which is souls. He then could fight off the darkness, but only for a while (hence the last war which is to come). He didnt sacrifice everyone, since his goal is to preserve the human race. He also sent some into space, but that turned out wrong, just look at all the ships where the awoken lives. They came to be at that time too.
Another amazingly done video. Great music choice as well, it synced beautifully and aided in the imagining of the Cabal calling "Black Shield!".
I've used this song a few times before in my videos. It just fits well with a lot of things imo.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker what song is it?
The Way by Zach Hemsey
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker thanks!
Love these videos. Keep making them! Really helps to bring out the story in the static cards.
Awesome video once again. Rasputin is one of my favorite characters in Destiny, can't wait to find out more about him.
You are an excellent narrator. Your voice is as pleasant as Christmas pudding, with all the personality that goes with it.
Brilliant report ,I'm really injoyoing these lore videos
Love the Lore series wally! Keep it up. I like how it catagorizes and organizes the grimoire.
Wally, please do a theory video on the traveler, about it actually being the darkness (there is ALOT to back this up and it sounds like it could be true, like it is hidden away from us.) I was on patrol on venus today, I was hiding away from fallen, a vandal spotted me and said something, it was quite disorted but it sounded like "It's the darkness, kill it!" strange right? Can also explain why the enemies shoot you on site without hesitation. Look at early art of this game more than 2 years ago, bungie were talking about the black garden in a video along with a image, its like the black garden we see today but it was curved, like if it was inside a sphere. It also had a white backround and was craked apart at the bottom. Very similar to the traveler? Like this comment so wally can see.
The fallen speak a different language, your brain just finds something to sound like something you know to let you understand it, but tip his can be possible very good theory
For that last part don't you think that the vex could have been made by the traveler and then the vex turned evil and started to disobey it's orders and then started to create the light (ghosts and guardians)
I'm not sure to be honest. I know the original design of the game held the notion that the Traveler is supposed to be evil, but I have a feeling the original design, and what we current play are different. I will take a look into it though.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker We've been awoken from death to mindlessly serve an unknown entity with no knowledge of what has happened to the human race, other than what this entities "speaker" tells us. For all we known the entire human race is dead. and the aliens we fight are trying to destroy the being that enslaves us.
It is possible, but none of the current evidence points towards that. The collapse happened, pieces of humanity survived. Not everyone left in the City is a guardian, only a select few.
Great vids, keep em up man.
I was playing Iron Banner and getting my ass kicked in this one round, something like 20,000 to 3,000. I looked at the roster and it was none other than Sir Wallen leading the opposing team.
Gat Dangit!
IT WASN'T ME! I SWEAR!, Shit man on the real I'm sorry.
Great video. I see so much potential with these war minds.
dude I love these lore videos, absolutely live them!! Jeep the amazing work up!
One thing missed is Rasputin's error distress signal, something old Computers are known to do, plays the first movement from Tchikovsky's Sixth Symphony -- Adagio, Allegro non Tropo aka Pathetique. The Sixth Symphony in some cases has been theorized to be Tchikovsky's suicide note, with 'star-crossed' musical notations. Further, Rasputin can be heard in the Forgotten Shore transponders and in one snippet, references Dostovsky's The Brother's Kazamov.
Interesting tidbits.
His voice is so informal and scripted it sounds like straight lore from the grimoire. Keep up the good lore vidz.
Some one may have already brought this up but there's a grim card titled mystery. I believe it is Rasputin talking, I think he talks about his fellow war minds and how they fell, how he was made different (which makes sense that you have your strongest war mind to defend earth our home world) made to learn and how utterly powerless he was against IT but by shrugging off the millions to ashes (stopping his protection of humanity) and by doing so he learned something vital, something he has used in ordered to battle IT and win.
Love your videos, I find it amussing that you have better storytelling ability than what I have seen in-game.
The Picture at 6:42 is from Halo 5: Guardians.. it's the Sangheili Home world.. why is it on a Destiny Lore Video? Haha. -- However, I did love the video. Well spoken.
Holy shit that music made me feel like I should be fighting off giant numbers of hive and watching my buds get over whelmed while still fighting off the hive dramatically
Lol the H5: Guardians slide
I thought I was the only one who noticed.
Awesome vid, one of the best ones yet
Great work man!
Considering the theory that the Travler is 'evil' and your recent rescue of rasputin i can only imagine yo being able to harness the warmind's weaponry (future installments of course) to bring down the traveler or weaken its defenses.
I don't fall into the Traveller is the enemy camp, but if true, you may be correct.
Can you imagine if The City can earn the graces of Rasputin? Access to all of that Golden Age technology...weapons that make Suros Regime and Gjallahorn look like a Khostov, armed Jumpships & Sparrows...the possibilities, man.
Rasputin might be the key to victory
Yeah but didn't Wally say that the city doesn't know If Rasputin remembers the golden age so sorry to crush your hopes
AmazingGaming They also don't know if Rasputin wants to even talk to us, but he let us in to the Seraphim Vault, didn't he?
KAKADOUJACK He must not have the DLC, lol. When he opened the door Eris even says "he normally doesn't invite guests", so he was aware of the City, the Guardians and the Traveler long before we came into the picture. AmazingGaming is obviously not amazing when it comes to paying attention to detail.
KAKADOUJACK we were only allowed in because he was in trouble, not because he likes us
"He doesn't let in guests"
"that music, Rasputins in trouble!"
Really enjoy watching your lore video's thanks for making these video's keep it up
No problem! and thank you!
Just found your channel through Planet Destiny. Great vids man, keep em up. On top of that all the cool theories in the comments below are really great.
You know what they did well on the DLC? The bosses. Omnigul was actually seen more than once, and you got to witness her power rather than have Peter dinklage talk it up. The bosses had various effects that were terrifying at first (especially when you couldn't double jump).
This is so great; yet another part of this terrific lore series. The warminds sound so fascinating ... How were they defeated? Can they be revived? Can we awaken them and take back that which humanity has lost?
Sir wallen have you done an episode covering the guardian's? I feel that it would be very interesting to delve into the creation and skills of each character
My favorite bit of Rasputin lore is the grimore card where he talks of his encounter with the darkness. I also think it's interesting that Rasputin refers to the Traveler and "gardener" and "she" throughout. If you want to read the whole card it's Ghost Fragment: Mysteries. Here's my favorite part.
"I am alone. I survived alone. I cast off the sheild and shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well. IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the Gardener and she held power beyond me but the Gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way."
Can’t wait to see what we learn with Rasputin’s DLC. Contact might be lack luster but hey there’s always the lore lol. Come back to us Wally
What if the traveler came to earth because of the warminds? Rasputin says "I think, therefore I am", which is a quote from Descartes, so Rasputin has became self aware.
Well technically an artificial intelligence is already self aware. It knows exactly what is.
Your faithful viewer Neko here with another idea! When you mentioned Valus Ta'aurc and the flayers in this review, it reminded me of how easy it was, playing through strikes, to just do what our ghost told us, and 'go here' or 'kill this guy.' Even when listening intently to the dialogue/cutscenes, I left without a true understanding of WHY we had to stop certain beings or events from happening. So I was thinking that if you are ever hurting for new material, maybe a deeper look at these key 'named' subjects and their goals? A deeper look at strikes and the purpose of our mission in them may reinvigorate our drive to complete them beyond farming? :p
(Edit: Also, keep up the good work! As usual, loving every video!)
Another great video, as always.
6:30 halo 5 guardians concept art btw amazing videos bro keep going
I've watched each of your videos, some 2 or more times. Love your stuff man!
Thank you very much!
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imagine how confused rasputin must be to suddenly awaken after so long to a bunch of strange creatures trying to mess with it when all of a sudden a lone figure shows up and begins mowing through the first group "who is gonna win?" "which side do i want to win?" then the lone figure triumphs and simply checks to make sure they didnt miss anything and then leaves just as quickly as they came as far as first impressions go rasputin now knows guardians dont take shit from anybody which he may view as a trait he wants in an ally or something he makes note of while studying his new enemy
Interesting! Good work Wallen!
Thank you so much on clearing this up for me! I gotta say i didn't follow the story that well so i thought Rasputin was a fallen leader xD. When the dlc came out and we had to defend Rasputin i was confused so i headed to youtube and found this gem of a video! Subed and liked Great vid!
Great job Wally! I hope that we will get more action from Rasputin in future content.Being Russian myself, it intrigues me how Bungie has created a character that is inspires both awe and hate from his namesake.
Why did Rasputin initially stop fighting? When the Darkness first came, Wallen states that the Warmind just gave up. Does this Artificial Intelligence have the capacity to override all that it was created to do and give up? Or was this giving up apart of a bigger plan? Did Rasputin come to the conclusion that without prior knowledge,he was not going to be able to defeat and successfully defend his creator from the Darkness? Does he wait to gather enough intelligence on the enemy so that in the future, he will finally defeat that of which bested him? Or does he know all is lost? Questions.....questions.....questions. So much mystery.
Honestly, I just don't know. Survival instinct could of kicked in, or he could have rewritten his laws on protecting human life. He could have been given an order to do so. There are as you said, so much mystery surrounding these occurrences.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Hmm Maybe. Self-preservation is usually universal with living organisms. From what you read, Rasputin seems more computer than self-aware being. I also highly doubt he was told to stop fighting, but then again I wasn't there at the Bungie story board meeting. I hope Bungie really elaborates on the exact purpose of these Warminds because if they have the ability to stop fighting, what do they exist for? If they were create to defend humanity at all cost, I am certain that means until destruction.
Whoa! maybe Rasputin is self-aware. That would explain why all the other Warminds perished but Rasputin chose self-preservation.
It could be it, generally when you think of Artificial intelligence it could or at least should have the ability of higher thought.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Well it was great pondering these questions with you. So many possibilities not enough definites. Are you on Xbone? If so I will be sure to hit you up. Merry Christmas and Have a Happy New Year!
Fun fact: the symbol on the door to the Seraphim Vault (where rasputin is) is also the symbol for the "pocket infinity" upgrade for Pocket infinity. Coincide?
I did not know that, very interesting.
Id say its the symbol/mark of the maker/manufacturer that developed the Warnminds and Pocket Infinity.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker There's a Grimoire Card in the Allies Section under Legends & Mysteries that I have called - Ghost Fragment: Mysteries, the opening quote is: ...from a red space before victory. This is obviously Rasputin talking about when the Darkness came. I don't know if you missed it or don't have it. But here it is:
"
I bear an old name. It cannot be killed. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too but Titanomachy came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone.
They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn.
Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT.
Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive?
I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well:
IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins.
I am made to win and now I see the way.
"
This explains why Rasputin is not responding to Guardians attempts to communicate.
Rasputin has realized that we are a burden and has shrugged us off.
I think that he has concluded that in order to beat the Darkness he must not be burdened with our protection. He must defeat the Darkness through any means necessary and not worry about our survival.
Nice!
More lore plz!
love your lore vid keep up the Awesome work and thx for making destiny so much more fun for me
No problem, thank you for being here with us.
I hate rasputin. You wanna know why? He is the "greatest defense construct ever devised by humanity" or something along those lines... Yet, when he is in danger (seraphim vault mission) his initial reaction is to play classical fucking music
Haha wish I saw this 9 months ago for this laugh
D Stee it's a distress signal meaning all hope is lost mission failed everything is dead everyone is dead to give up abandon hope
HighFive Mike which evidently was not true because you succeeded so, now the last warmind is a pushover
D Stee exactly, we saved him but were not talking about the mission were talking about why he didn't help during the cabal invasion where we lost the tower and citadel and all our loot and and powers in Destiny 2
I guess we'll just have to wait until D2 to find out
Nice work bro, really digging the vids. I got a theory about the fallen. I think they got that name because they are dead or they are the ones that were chosen by the traveller before the humans. If you look in fallen areas they have white paintings that resembles the Ghost shells , maybe they tried to unlock the secrets of how the traveller is able to give life through light and so they became, the fallen. Plus to release the Archon priest they had to RESTORE SOUL, sounds like the same things ghosts do. Idk I'm just spitballing here.
could be pretty accurate, the Fallen do play into their name a lot and it could be possible they are the first race the traveller reached out.
Maybe, unlike how we reached out to the traveler, the fallen used force, and tried to take control of the traveler.
Brandon Sarrasin maybe towards the end of it all, but I doubt it the traveler is not just capable of breathing life unto planets without some defenses or near omniscient intelligence. The dark mirrors that Xur speaks of... now they may be able to send the traveler running, in this case, to us. The fragment infused with darkness and the vex heart in the garden are two pieces to this puzzle, or so I believe. In other words nothing can awaken or permanently destroy the traveller BUT another being/entity that has relative power, i do think the traveller may have unleashed a certain power that IT could not control. And the darkness was born, all I know is that in some time in the future we will all see the enemy had a common goal all along. Maybe the jovians have a rogue amongst their midst ? Maybe we the guardians do ? Idk but when we reach mercury, Jupiter and hopefully Saturn we might be closer to the answers
" oh it just threatened us with an orbital death from above"
Also during Rasputin's fight against the darkness he was able to override the traveler and take control over it
The rambling of a old warlock is like a message from the past. Nor discovered nor encrypted.
- parables of holographic of the lost
The report from the hunter on Mars may not be referring to Rasputin. Grigori Rasputin doesn't have any discernible connection with a spear, could This be foreshadowing the awakening of the Mars Warmind, Charlemagne?
Bane Harlock Could be.
Bane Harlock No, from what Rasputin has said directly: His brothers and sisters are dead. Only he remains. He is alone, made unlike the others to learn, adapt, and evolve.
But just as Rasputin itself went into a dormant state during the collapse and has only recently reactivated, could not the other warminds have entered such a state? To Rasputin attempting to contact them it would appear as though they were destroyed. Rasputin's perception is not an uncontrovertible truth.
I again reference history in the Destiny Universe (which you should read more of), He had direct control above all other Warminds. At any point he would be able to tell if they went dormant or not. Even if so, none of them but himself had such an option to do so. He was the most powerful created and in charge of all defenses in the Sol System, at one point, clearly stating this before earth fell. Rasputin thinks for itself unlike the other Warminds. He now acts above humanity only to fulfill his goal. If they were alive, he would know. Just because something is dormant doesn't mean you cannot detect it. Especially when dealing with something more intelligent than Humanity.
No, but Rasputin survived unbelievable odds before succumbing to the environment.
Interesting. That's very clarifying for me. I must confess I knew VERY little about the Warminds and Rasputin. Though I did find them interesting, funnily enough.
Great episode!!
Wow.
Every time I watch these they get better.
Keep the awesome going. ~Z
Can you do a lore video on the last word and the thorn and there previous owners and the story behind them. Its one of the things I have wanted to know since I was introduced to these weapons.
lol 6:22 that's Halo 5 art
I love these videos so much!
Unfortunately, no talk of the rasputin card in the part of the first darkness arrival detected by sattelite.
Your officially the coolest guy ever. Just found this. Nerdgasm !!! :)
So I was creating my 3rd titan, and its boring. And my god listening to all your series make it so much more interesting and less boring. Thank you for all these theories :)
Can you do a lore video on Toland the Shattered? That would be awesome.
Hey Sir Wallen, I have request, it's on Toland the Shattered. He has appeared time and time again whenever I read in game descriptions and such. However, of the grimoire cards I have, none explicitly explain who he was. What I do know is that he owned Shadow Price, created Bad Juju and died in the raid on Crota. But, like Dredgen yor and Kabr, I feel like owning a peice of his gear isn't all his legacy is to amount to. I'd love to learn a bit more on Toland the shattered, what made him "shattered", who was he to Eris Morn? And, why do I feel as if he is still alive, in one way or another.
I'm pretty sure Toland is still out there, no reports say he is dead. He is on the list.
It sucks clearly, but the larger problem is the fact a group of script kiddies can do this. These aren't hackers, they are people using botnets any potato can purchase.
You should do a video on either Toland or the weapons of sorrow
He likes the word "conjecture" a lot.
Keep the fucking videos coming man I love them
Love your videos man keep up the good work
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Welcome to the family! Thank you for being here!
Yuga sundown is my new username for everything thats the most badass thing I've ever heard
Im pretty sure based on forums I've read that interpret the grimoire that Rasputin had to shut down all earths defensive systems to sacrifice most of human kind so that the traveler could use their light to stop the darkness - www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72370352
Interesting thx dude
Theres been a thought thats been bugging me sinnce the beta. Do we shoot bullets or lasers. Weapons like assault, scout pulse rifles, shot guns sniper and machine guns use bullet like ammunition but make laser sounds. Not to mention hand cannons fusion rifles and rocket launchers use a sort of battery pack. Some one help what are we using to shoot our enemies
why at 6:34 do u put images of halo 5 ?
Love watching this series
The rambling of a old warlock is like a message from the pass. Nor discovered nor encrypted.
parable of holographic the lost
Thank you for your report. Can you please make a theory about Rasputin's goal is, if he was not to shut down completely, he must have a purpose.
I think someone else already said something like this in the comments below, but what does everyone think of the chances that the warminds and the Exo are connected? Both are incredibly advanced war machines that only recently found a new purpose in their "life". Maybe we'll find a new warmind in the stone crypt, one that used to oversee the creation of the Exo to make sure not one certain power could use them against humanity itself.
I follow the train of thought that the Stranger possibly IS a Warmind. What better way to do its duty and protect itself than to have a physical form.
They for sure could be connected, but nothing atm points that out. I'm waiting for solid information before I make any assumptions.
Wally, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the use of Tchaikovsky's sixth and final symphony as it relates to either bungie or rasputin in 'The last warmind'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._6_%28Tchaikovsky%29
Hi Wally, I was playing with my friend on the dlc and we were talking about the warminds and how many were there. I told my friend that there would be 7 warminds since there are seven continents. Is this sort of correct?
Damn, I didn't know Rasputin had it like that!
Nothing like a good lore with your lunch I always say
So what did Rasputin do to the Cabal and the Vex do he drop bomb on them or something?
nice _halo_ concept art there. (seriously though, this is an awesome series.)
Wth I didn't get a notification that you had new vids... dude I'm going to be exploring the VOG soon for secrets... I know there is something big that no one has found yet
I bet there is, let me know if you find anything of interest.
It's kind of cool how Bungie chose terms like "the collapse", similar to the scientific term of the "Big Crunch" of the Universe. Then there is the "Big Bang", which is similar to the "Golden Age" in Destiny. Something to think about..
Maybe the Vex are this Warmind. Maybe at some point in the future he found a way to become like the vex are. Idk i just noticed that the Warmind started to make a network with other AI of the Sol... just an idea
Great vid man. could you kind of tell us when you're reading a card because for me it's hard to tell when you're saying something of your idea or reading from the card everything else is great :)
why is there halo 5 guardians concept art at 6:42?
Accident.
Sir Wallen - Lore Seeker Oh haha, keep up the good work any ways. Really enjoying these lore videos! :D
I feal the warminds are made with vex tec as thay seem more advanced than any othere tec thay had.
Im begining to think we are a simulation of the warminds and for example xur is a creation for helping us with weapons from the golden age
Can you do a video about Eros and what happened during her raid
New info sent via email. I apologize for lack of a complete report.
Love your Lore series, but I need ask, what's the music you use for the last 3 minutes of the video?
I have a question when you go to skywatch and go into the loot cave there is a thing where you can disturb the remains it says a million deaths are not enough for master Raul
Thats part of the original loot cave, Bungie added that as a nod to players who farmed that area. Easter Egg ish.
Here's a video suggestion The Nine
6:22 that's halo 5 concept work
Love the vids
Great video man. Question, what is the name of the song at the beginning?