Aleksander Toradze: Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 2, Op.16 (Mariinsky Orchestra, Valery Gergiev)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- From the Great Hall of the Moscow Conservatory, on 26 April 2012
Aleksander Toradze - piano
Symphony Orchestra of the Mariinsky Theatre, St Petersburg
Valery Gergiev - musical director
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Sergei Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No.2 Opus 16 (37')
0:35 I. Andantino - Allegretto
14:58 II. Scherzo (vivace)
17:20 III. Intermezzo (allegro moderato)
24:24 III. Finale (Allegro tempestoso)
The Easter Festival is an internationally renowned event among classical music lovers, traditionally opened in Moscow on Easter Sunday. Each year the Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra and its musical director Valery Gergiev travel across Russia - for the past 10 years now!
In 2012 we were given an exceptional musical gift: the Mariinsky Theatre Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Valery Gergiev performed the complete cycle of Sergei Prokofiev’s symphonies and piano concerti - a composer with whom Maestro Gergiev and the orchestra seem particularly in tune.
Regardless of who performs this piece, from around 11:45 to 12:45, will always bring me shivers. Its that rare moment in music where the piano sounds like the bells in a cathedral, shouting out to God Himself. But whether it's in reverence or scorn, I do not know...
Perhaps both...
To me, this is by far the best performance of this concerto by anyone. It's quite idiosyncratic and quirky, but in perfect control and understanding. Re-listening to other performances gives the real sense of what one misses. Also, this performance is better than Toradze recordings on CD of this concerto from 1990s. Gergiev and Mariinsky back up wonderfully. One of the best examples of what a UA-cam search can reveal. A true gem.
Many people are unable to hear past the technical refinement flaws to understand the raw beauty of expression in this pianist. Listen to the color change and dramatic structure he masters with his control and design on dynamic range.
God gave Man five fingers on one hand just to let him play this concert of Prokofiev. Phenomenal performance!
Wow! That was fuckin' great! Best, most emotionally driven performance of Prokofiev's Piano Concerto number 2 ever. Felt it.
Beside the virtuosic playing, the ending of the 1st movement (around 13:50) is one of the most beautiful moments in music that is only heard in this rendition. In spite of the rawness of Toradze's playing, his conception, I believe, is closest to Prokofiev's inspiration - there's tragedy, desperation, hopelessness... A story of suicide indeed...
No, Toradze’s playing is diametrically opposed to Prokofiev’s. Listen to the few recordings Prokofiev has left. His performances are very straightforward and almost a-romantic and he liked Richter whose approach is also totally different from Toradze’s.
@@MorbidMayem can I have a link to prokofievs recordings please
This man understands Prokofiev perfectly, it is incredible, everything he transmits goes further, the musical concept that I can say about this concert sums up everything in music
That performance was the best I've heard so far. Very loyal to the way prokofiev would actually play his own music.
I like this version a lot. There is the house of flying fingers version etc. where all the notes are played precisely and at maximum tempo, and it sounds very good, but here Toradze goes beyond what is on the page and gives us something quite remarkable, perhaps what Prokofiev had in mind. The back up by Gergiev and his Mariinsky players makes for a fantastic performance. Thanks to all!!
This ia baddest version of this concerto
na -kun ?
@@jacopastorius319 He is not able play that concerto good in that age. I just see how hard for him cadenza when he play.
na -kun Horowitz played Rachmaninov 3rd piano concerto at 75, and he played it technicially and amazingly. Alexander Toradze is 60 years old in this video... So, if you have good fingers, you’ll play it even when you are dead. But, in this situation, it’s very strange, because Toradze has his own music academy, and he studied at Moscow conservatory... maybe, he wasn’t able to practice exactly for this performance😅
Wang you mean? She is a bad interpreter and can't play for toffee just a typist
IF you ever have a chance to see Toradze, DO NOT FAIL TO GO. I've seen him play this Concerto twice in the last 15 years - in very different interpretations.
And the first performances set a new standard for this Concerto in tempi and expression. The Toradze sound is deep, Soviet, & so beautiful!
Of course most of the Hollywood Bowll audience din't understand they were hearing history. But there were a few telling, interrupting cheers.
This performer communicates as profoundly as Emil Gilels.
Goodbye, Maestro 😔
The first time I saw this video, didn't like it, but Toradze goes beyond the notes! His rendition of this piece is amazing, the decadence of that period of the Russian history is here, suicide, tragic, all is here. Not so conventional but interesting. Very mature conception. Bravo
I've heard Toradze described as "belonging to the Soviet truck driver school of piano playing"
R.I.P
best orchetra in the world hands down
Having listened to this a couple of times now, and having heard umpteen run-of-the-mill performances of this concerto, Toradze has produced the most remarkable interpretation of this work. He really plays like he has thought about what each note means. Prokofiev's music, particularly in this concerto, is not about making pleasant sounds or sounding nice...it's about raw emotions and feelings. Toradze understands this completely.
Incomprehensible, strange and whimsical.
Wow superb 2nd mov
.. and people still complaining about his stamina in the comment section
უძლიერესი ორკესტრი, უძლიერესი დირიჟორი, უბრწყინვალესი თორაძე..... ეს შესრულება ერთ-ერთი გამორჩეულია. რამხელა ემოცია მოდის თავად კონცერტიდან და ამას დამატებული შესრულების მანერა მით უფრო აძლიერებს ამ მუხტს.
მაგარია გერგიევი. როგორ ფლობს მთელ ორკესტრს, ასევე მაგარია თორაძე.
Грандиозно! И оркестр, и Т 38:20 орадзе!!
Замечательное исполнение!!
BRAVO!!!!
Great!!
Fantastic. No time, primordial pianism Ciakovski echoes....
Bravo, Aleksander❤
Long time since a performance of Prok. 2nd gave me so much pleasure. Phenomenal.
What a captivating performance, especially the second movement!
Лучшее исполнение!!!!!!!!! СУПЕР!!!! Какое извлечение каждого звука! Какая выдержка и экспрессия!
His cadenza really makes me painful.
He was attacking the piano most the time, but still a great pianist otherwise.
Hmm mixed feelings about this performance. Some passages are played in a very interesting, novel and, dare I say, amazing way, but other parts sound quite disastrous tbh.
Yep agree
He plays the fff of the end of the cadenza just as the orchestra come in rather p. I can't understand his decision here. This is supposed to raise the roof...
But apart from my comment below, i loved this interpretation. Full of fire, passion and originality. I forgive his p at the end of the cadenza...I feel Wang should be giving something extra to her performances that indicate a profound empathy with the emotions being described in the music. But her virtuosity is so great that maybe she takes them for granted?
different style with Anna vinnitskaya. Both are amazing! Philosophy vs fairytale
Bravo Bravo Bravo 👌💎 best intonation of Prokofiev 💚
Toradze-Gergiev- Maariinsky Best in Prokofiev Piano 2 in my opinion
I totally agree
@@zelda2664 Thanks, it was not my discovery, a dear Russian friend who knows Valery told me about this wonderful execution
I think some of the negative commenters here need to learn patience. This is a great performance if you aren't trying to get to the end.
How was the Scherzo?
True...he has great depth as a pianist and great understanding...
ゲルギエフってどうやって勉強してるんだろう 凄いなー
really hard for him
Превосходное исполнение, вызывающее восторг.
Медленновато первую часть
This is second of the best performance of this concerto. My first is Yuja Wang who can play it with precision and flow. However, this version is more emotional and varied in color and tone.
Yuja Wang ...you cannot be serious. Not even comparable to this performance
@@mazactal6063 Hold it. She's technically perfect at this Concerto! ? I really don't get people who don't think she's No 1 pianist in the world ever.
@@mazactal6063 clean the manure out of your ears
@@burrenmagic you have thousands of pianists , who play this concert technically perfect. She's only one of them
@@ediccartman7252 i've head two of her efforts. pass on both occasions.
Stranger cadencia! NIce!
wowowowwww......
starting from 13:06 it feels like the orchestra is really struggling with the slow pace, the brass going too slow and strings going to fast. You see the lady thinking "who are we supposed to follow??" at 13:21
"who are we supposed to follow??"
Not the stick, that's for sure!
Superb
Absolutely,WONDERFUL!
Magnificent!
Just amazing!!!
Soloist eccentricities and a palpable disdain for the other musicians make this a mess if we are honest. The too slow beginning is the harbinger of an unhappy performance which shows in the body language at the end.
The opening is so damn slow that it feels like I can´t breathe, so I will move on to something else. Life is to short to wait around.
Considering the subject matter, isn't feeling like you can't breathe a good thing?
О чем для вас этот концерт?
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Not to my taste! But, that's OK...
Toradze is a wonderful pianist,but the opening tempo is just 2 dragging and slow
harriter88 It sound to me the soloist might be too aged to command such a monster concerto.
Agree with harriter88 and the technical mistakes. day off? His rendition during the 2016 Rotterdam Gergiev Festival shows that his age (born in 1952) plays no role!
harriter88
Gach plays piano? The Klingon Empire condems this assault on it´s culture!
Не могу его слушать после Юджи Ванг
Очень не уверенно и скованно по сравнению с ней
Буря в стакане воды
Ну да, у него бикини не такое красивое
Странное исполнение
Мне кажется что партитуру никто в руки не брал а на динамику всем всё равно было. Д а ещё и пианист ноты неправильные брал и в каденции мне на это было очень сложно смотреть. От ppp к fff за 10 секунд. Это странно.
@@na-kun2136 Вот удивляют меня люди вроде вас. Это же искусство все-таки, если все будут играть одинаково какой в этом смысл, я уверен сами композиторы нюансы ставят весьма условно. Смысл любого исполнения передать музыку так, чтобы было интересно, это ведь не конкурс, чтобы механически отбивать каждую ноту...Другое дело, что технически исполнение не полноценное ...
Pure mannerism. Toradze changes tempos on a whim, looses music flow. I was aware of this tendency, knowing the trend form 1995 recording. It only got worse. This is the concerto caricature.
Ой, как же плохо сыграно! Уничтожил всю красоту лучшего концерта в истории музыка. Медленно, не в такт, долгое мучение фортепьяно, не нашёл отклика и у вменяемого слушателя и у инструмента, что ещё печальней.
Это Прокофьев уничтожил твое представление о красоте ( и не только твое, Глазунова, например тоже) :))
Просто большинство пианистов играет так, чтоб тебя не обидеть, потому что кушать все хотят, а ты платишь бабки за билет. Наконец нашелся тот, кто сыграл Прокофьева ( еще Постникова может быть с Рождественским ).
Interesting but quite incoherent. I much prefer Gutierrez's version.
That is a studio recording. On this repertoire this makes a huuuuge difference.
God. He's just destroy this concerto. Terrible
No sé, no me gustó mucho. :/
Climax totally ruined at the end of the cadenza. Really can't enjoy this interpretation at all. His dynamics are all over the place. He was truly struggling throughout the first movement. Tough gig for the conductor.
No, Jose, with respect, the climax aat the end of the cadenza was the most orgasmic passage of music I've ever heard. Unbelievable power, that man. I got to know his playing a few years ago and I've come back to it and he is a Man of God and a Man of Power and a Man of Music. A MAN. Yes.
@@richardlitwin4046 No. He is right. Toradze plays pretty bad if not terrible. And the dynamics are strange. If you want to play this concerto you need power. He is very old man (1952) and for him playing this concerto is not easy, it seems.(source: sounds that he made during the cadenza)
@@na-kun2136 try to learn proper english before criticizing a wonderful pianist!
@@hanssteiner9652 done!
@@richardlitwin4046 except for that fff which he played rather p? That was the only disappointment for me...but he was clearly whacked at that point.
Worst cadenza and concerto ever have been played
That's harsh!
Didn't know there were so many masochists around, pianist & orchestra included.
WTF do people pay hard earned money for THIS apocalyptic crap when they could listen to real music and go home happy and elated?
such a boring performance is that !
Terrible !!! This not P. as it should be !!! Pianist ? Adanshito !!!