I notice that Federer varies how wide his platform stance is. Sometimes he has a very wide platform stance and at other times, he brings his feet closer together. What are the pros and cons of each?
@@user-yt7ss2py4w visual illusion. I know Federer's game inside and out, no he doesn't vary it. The difference is only when he's warming up. He doesn't assume his stance first, like he does when he's serious, instead opts for a more relaxed and fluid mechanics. He may very well start with his normal stance but due to extreme relaxation he prefers to take a step forward or back.
He's warming up. If you want to see his actual serve watch a slow motion video of a match event. Fed has a moderately wide stance that he has adapted because he's looking for more consistency and placement in his serve, not speed and power. The narrower pin-point stance used by a large number of players has more power potential, but due to the less stability, relatively higher ball toss and different transfer of mass it tends to be less consistent. As I said, make no mistake, Fed has never served with a narrow stance, unlike Nadal, who earlier in his career had a wide stance and after 2007 adopted pinpoint stance.
He modified his service motion after Sampras. Both have very similar uncoiling technique. The difference is Pete was stronger in his forearm and had unbelievably flexible core and shoulders so could generate more pop than Roger
Federer could easily hit with as much pop as Pete and very often used to. He’s adapted it to create far more variety and disguise and the placement has become second to none
@@jimclawley9117no way fed had more natural pop or velocity on his best serves than Pete but may have been a bit more precise. But Pete was very accurate and followed with a extremely good volley.
I think the way he lands is so smooth and his weight is toward his 2o clock all the time .. I have tried endless times but I always fall on my 10 or 11 o’clock and hence feel a twisting jerk in my back…. May be that’s a key that he never injury
@@mirzasaadullahbaig1958maybe it's the ball toss or the fact that you're not pushing your body forward in the 2'o clock direction. A lot of power also comes through the legs. I made the same mistake during my early days. One of the coaches told me to always shift my body weight forward while hitting ground strokes and for serves he told me to shift in the direction I want my serve to go. This one simple change added tons of sting and consistency to my strokes.
There's always two ways to look at a serve. Technically correct and the way his ball behaves. If a guy has a quirky motion and motion snd can nail a 130 MPH in the T consistent are you gonna be happy to make him more correct and have him only hit it 110?
Clearly the most beautiful and elegant. Yes the best ever. If you look the list of top ace leaders, Fed is third with 11452 and is the shortest at 6-1. Karlovic is 6-11 first with 13762, Isner is 6-10 second with 13683. Given the height disparity, he is the greatest server.
I think Roger starts his toss from the thigh, palm moving upward, but he turns the wrist towards his release so the ball comes out of his hand with an ice cream cone, neutralized wrist. No flickiness, no ball spin.
Not a match just warming up his motion and doesn't even care if he's stepping on the line a little bit or not. Basically he's getting his rhythm and motion on different serves and locations. Serving practice.
If you watch this 5 days per week for about 6 years, you will be able to copy the motion exactly AND you will be s belt to o figure out where the power is actually coming now. You will need a working k sledge of Newtonian Physics and some exposure to the concepts reLated to torque, levers the actual definition spin (hitting a. Body off its center of mads). . Good Luck
@@bd3531 there's nothing to say Fed may switch up his toss locations to confuse returners so they don't key 🗝️ on a pattern. If you got great body control you can hit a variety of serves from different spots. Fed was in a different world Andy said he used to peak to see which way he was guessing and then serve in the other direction. It's like a NFL QB looking off a defender and going in the other direction so quick almost simultaneously.
Let’s see: J. McEnroe had 512 aces in 1075 matches (less than one every other match). Borg had 1473 in 794 matches (about 2 per match), in the same era, with the same equipment, etc (only shorter career so never benefited from high tech raquets of any sort.) So it’s not only a matter of era, equipment, etc . Federer: 11,478 aces in 1526 matches, about 7.5 per match. Third highest of all time, behind Isner and Karlovic, serve specialists, and 15 times as high as McEnroe’s per match, over a much, much longer career. So, whose serve is sublime? And it’s great to see all the tennis serve technical specialists’ analysis. I assume they are mostly serve coaches for ATP players.
@@samuelsessions2817 There is a difference between power and sublimity. Federer can go on serving ace after ace after ace still his serve will never have that spell-binding motion of Mac's serve. That stance, that incredible bending, that jump and the thrust forward. Absolutely hypnotic.
Good thing you were here to notice that, some people would have thought this "Federer" nobody is a tennis player or something. If he knew he did a footfault while practicing he would be in total shock! You should make some tennis videos to teach the likes of this "Federer" dude how to properly serve, I'm sure you're more qualified given your obvious expertise on the subject.
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It’s the best serve motion in the history of tennis. Simple, athletic and deadly accurate.
ये विश्व का सबसे मुश्किल स्टाइल है.
his toss is not simple
Lmao what?
Poetry in motion! ❤❤❤
I notice that Federer varies how wide his platform stance is. Sometimes he has a very wide platform stance and at other times, he brings his feet closer together.
What are the pros and cons of each?
usually when he serves at the left side (Ad) the stance will be much wider than on the right side (Deuce).
no pros and cons, it just natural.
@@user-yt7ss2py4w visual illusion. I know Federer's game inside and out, no he doesn't vary it. The difference is only when he's warming up. He doesn't assume his stance first, like he does when he's serious, instead opts for a more relaxed and fluid mechanics. He may very well start with his normal stance but due to extreme relaxation he prefers to take a step forward or back.
He's warming up. If you want to see his actual serve watch a slow motion video of a match event. Fed has a moderately wide stance that he has adapted because he's looking for more consistency and placement in his serve, not speed and power. The narrower pin-point stance used by a large number of players has more power potential, but due to the less stability, relatively higher ball toss and different transfer of mass it tends to be less consistent. As I said, make no mistake, Fed has never served with a narrow stance, unlike Nadal, who earlier in his career had a wide stance and after 2007 adopted pinpoint stance.
What is this piece of art 🙏❤️
Perfect service motion technique. Loving it ❤
He modified his service motion after Sampras. Both have very similar uncoiling technique. The difference is Pete was stronger in his forearm and had unbelievably flexible core and shoulders so could generate more pop than Roger
Federer could easily hit with as much pop as Pete and very often used to. He’s adapted it to create far more variety and disguise and the placement has become second to none
@@jimclawley9117no way fed had more natural pop or velocity on his best serves than Pete but may have been a bit more precise. But Pete was very accurate and followed with a extremely good volley.
Pete definitely was stronger and exploded on the 1st serve more. I have to give the 2nd serve to Fed for more variety.
Smooth effortless and simply perfect ❤️👍👏
It's a miracle, that he keeps this hard full back spine serve soo long without injuries
Actually he keep straigh, thats why heneer get spine injury, but yes! They do specific training for the back
I think the way he lands is so smooth and his weight is toward his 2o clock all the time .. I have tried endless times but I always fall on my 10 or 11 o’clock and hence feel a twisting jerk in my back…. May be that’s a key that he never injury
@@mirzasaadullahbaig1958maybe it's the ball toss or the fact that you're not pushing your body forward in the 2'o clock direction. A lot of power also comes through the legs. I made the same mistake during my early days. One of the coaches told me to always shift my body weight forward while hitting ground strokes and for serves he told me to shift in the direction I want my serve to go. This one simple change added tons of sting and consistency to my strokes.
There's always two ways to look at a serve. Technically correct and the way his ball behaves. If a guy has a quirky motion and motion snd can nail a 130 MPH in the T consistent are you gonna be happy to make him more correct and have him only hit it 110?
The GOAT
thanks dad for coaching me based off this video
its the best shot in tennis for sure! ever
Great Vid. Could you do the deuce side as well
Awesome video. Subscribed!
Best serve in the world?
Yes. Also best ever along with the great Sampras's serve.
Yes
Absolutely, undoubtedly
Clearly the most beautiful and elegant. Yes the best ever. If you look the list of top ace leaders, Fed is third with 11452 and is the shortest at 6-1. Karlovic is 6-11 first with 13762, Isner is 6-10 second with 13683. Given the height disparity, he is the greatest server.
That would be Sampras, but Fed's is up there.
I think Roger starts his toss from the thigh, palm moving upward, but he turns the wrist towards his release so the ball comes out of his hand with an ice cream cone, neutralized wrist. No flickiness, no ball spin.
Slow motion RF mantap
Can someone explain the feet position in the first few serves in the video, it looks like they are inside the court, on the line at best?
It's practice match
Not a match just warming up his motion and doesn't even care if he's stepping on the line a little bit or not. Basically he's getting his rhythm and motion on different serves and locations. Serving practice.
The beginning is the second serve, the kick serve.
If you watch this 5 days per week for about 6 years, you will be able to copy the motion exactly AND you will be s belt to o figure out where the power is actually coming now. You will need a working k sledge of Newtonian Physics and some exposure to the concepts reLated to torque, levers the actual definition spin (hitting a. Body off its center of mads). . Good Luck
ball toss in front of head = down the line
ball toss over head = wide
No the over head is for kick serve. If he's hitting wide flat it'll be in front.
if only it were that simple, genius. Every player who played against Federer's serve couldn't figure it out for years, but you did.
@@bd3531 there's nothing to say Fed may switch up his toss locations to confuse returners so they don't key 🗝️ on a pattern. If you got great body control you can hit a variety of serves from different spots. Fed was in a different world Andy said he used to peak to see which way he was guessing and then serve in the other direction. It's like a NFL QB looking off a defender and going in the other direction so quick almost simultaneously.
The opening serve…foot fault?
I noticed that too. Looks like he's foot faulting all his serves during warm up.
are these all kick second serves
Yep
foot fault?
Yes, clearly foot fault. That is what I couldn’t understand. Did anyone else not notice it?!
He's just practicing. He only steps in with jis front foot when he is practicing.
It’s just a practice, they do that cause they are serving fast
Of the 100 million serves of his on camera, why choose the first two that were faults?
Foot fault on kick serve
*Speakign in slow motion* Foooooooooooooooottttttttttt faaaaaaaauuuuuuullllllllltttttttttttttttt.
He literally foot faults every time
Foot Fault Roger...
It’s just a warm up, he’s serving fast
Federer exhibits good serve mechanics, but nothing really new. There is minimal downward ball movement entering the ball contact phase.
They are all practice serves and he always foot faults on them 😄
foot fault
Not sublime like John McEnroe's serve.
Let’s see: J. McEnroe had 512 aces in 1075 matches (less than one every other match). Borg had 1473 in 794 matches (about 2 per match), in the same era, with the same equipment, etc (only shorter career so never benefited from high tech raquets of any sort.) So it’s not only a matter of era, equipment, etc . Federer: 11,478 aces in 1526 matches, about 7.5 per match. Third highest of all time, behind Isner and Karlovic, serve specialists, and 15 times as high as McEnroe’s per match, over a much, much longer career. So, whose serve is sublime? And it’s great to see all the tennis serve technical specialists’ analysis. I assume they are mostly serve coaches for ATP players.
@@samuelsessions2817 There is a difference between power and sublimity. Federer can go on serving ace after ace after ace still his serve will never have that spell-binding motion of Mac's serve. That stance, that incredible bending, that jump and the thrust forward. Absolutely hypnotic.
foot fault..and the ball was out..
Good thing you were here to notice that, some people would have thought this "Federer" nobody is a tennis player or something.
If he knew he did a footfault while practicing he would be in total shock!
You should make some tennis videos to teach the likes of this "Federer" dude how to properly serve, I'm sure you're more qualified given your obvious expertise on the subject.
It's not like he was warming up before the match or anything
yeah 4.5 ntrp max
FYO this "Federer " is one of the best servers on tour. This is just practice do you think someone with 20 grand slams doesn't know what he's doing 🙄🙄
@@jonathangyimah8175 he’s just joking buddy
Disgusting.....
What a horrible motion…always good to see how not to do it right?
Please show your serve ET94. And re foot faults: he’s practicing, so he loses the non-point. Same thing re serves that were out.
But it was out
il primo servizio è Fallo
Sì, ma ha sempre il piede sinistro in campo. Foot fault!
foot fault?