Its worth pointing out as well that "good" beer should ALWAYS be poured into a glass. And when pouring you can easily control the sediment. A bottle inhibits your ability to smell the beer as you drink it, meaning you are not getting the full effect of the beer that you either paid dearly for or worked hard on. I have four different styles of glasses that I use depending on the style of beer I am drinking, a habit I've noticed most serious homebrewers pick up to some extent...
Thanks for your videos and info! I bought 2 dozen of the Sed Ex catchers and they do work great. It's a bit of a workout for the fingers, but doable. I started conditoning a batch and decided to make a second batch and also wanted to use the Sed Ex caps. When the first batch was done conditioning, I placed the bottles in the fridge to cool overnight. The next day, I removed the Sed Ex cap, flipped on a Star San'd twist cap and capped it. It takes only a few seconds to twist off the Sed Ex cap and recap with a twist cap, so it doesn't lose much fizz and you don't have to pour from one bottle to another to eliminate the sediment. Check the price - buying 2 dozen was cheaper for me because we saved on shipping. I've watched many of your videos - some a few times, and learn more all the time. Thank you!
No knocks on you, Craig, as I would be lost without your videos, but a good heads-up and review for a great new product!!!! Whoever designed these is a genius!!! CHEERS!!!!!!
Love it -- My ONLY little concern is how it LOOKS.. Now lets advance and see who can come up with a similar system that will allow the sediment to leave the beer & "somehow" you twist & cap the beer?
In the early 90s I was using a device called a Beerbrite cap, it looked like a long babies teat, trap the sediment in it and then bend it back on itself, trapping sediment. Leave it on, or chill the beer well and replace with a crown cap or plastic reseal. Per item cost very little. Cant find them now though, but the same device is still available for sparkling wine called Vintraps. Cheers Craig.
I can finally share my home brews without having to give the lame old sediment disclaimer to my friends! Thanks for sharing this. (and a belated thanks for all the tips I've employed from your other videos.)
Hi Craig, Great videos! Just getting back into brewing again after a few years off. Very helpful. The Australian bottle (stubbie) you show is a Crown Lager stubbie and is a nice commercial brew but no-one I know uses them for homebrew. All my friends use Coopers stubbies, some of them from many years ago that have dropped "shoulders". Thanks again, very helpful and good to see Coopers being appreciated by people around the world.
i think what hes saying is - transfer your beer to a secondary, then add a large batch of sugar and let it ferment. If you then siphoned it into bottles fast enough and re-sealed them, wouldnt a little carbonation remain?
CHEERS, i knew there be a product for this problem. , Man Craig than x for all the Vids man ive been brewing with mr beer and coopers since june of this year and ive got to thank you for finding a answer before i could even ask the question about sediment! and ive never had a bad batch keep showing these great vids
I really hoped you would show us the sediments, in a small glass, also, at 9:45. Was sad when you poured it out! Just of curiosity. :) Great info! I will see if I can get these here in Scandinavia. Thanks for great videos! Cheers!
I would totally buy them-- I'm new to home brewing, so I'm just learning all the tricks, but I can see how these would be huge. I'm enjoying the hobby immensely, but I can see how the sediment would be undesireable to some. This would be an easy fix to that problem, especially for those who you want to try your brew that enjoy drinking from the bottle. I have, unfortunately, run into a few people that insist on drinking from the bottle, and they dislike the last....................
Fruit "esters" are the direct result of the yeast you chose, and the temperature at which your beer fermented. It is definitely not caused by the sediment, and unless you are unusually sensitive to the taste of esters you shouldn't see it in "most homebrews". Usually, better control of your fermentation temps, and proper yeast choices will minimize or eliminate unwanted flavors. Like the "bannana" flavor in a hefeweizen that was brewed too warm...
I don't mind the sediment. Beer should be drunk from glasses anyway. I like using grolsh bottles with snap caps, but thanks Craig, always enjoy your information to make brewing better.
Hi Craig, Your video brings to mind something I think I saw on How Its Made about how sediment is removed from champaign. They rest the bottles neck down so the sediment collects on the cork and then they freeze the neck, remove the cork then they put on a new cork.
Quite pleased I stumbled across this video today. I've decided to give it a go at brewing my own beer. I've drank home brew that friends have made before and the sediment was always a major deterrent for me. Having seen this video i'm excited now actually to get brewing and give these a try !! I was going to ask if you have a preference for beer kits or ingredients etc...but i'm sure among all of your vids you probably cover that somewhere. Going to settle in now with a beer and watch your vids. lol
craig you are like a massive book full of brewing infomation, this info you give is probably worth money! but you choose to give it for free and thats awsome of you, keep brewing man :P peace
thank you craig :) this is going to be awesome. i've got my order in for 150 of these. i'm going to share them with my father-in-law. he's retired now and wants to start brewing his own; so these along with all the other gear i've got for him will complete the total package.
A great looking idea! And it works. My only reserve is that each bottle will need a device, and according to item cost, this could be very expensive. I appreciate they are re-useable but only after the beer has been consumed. Also its restricted to threaded bottles, Crown caps in the UK seem to be the norm.
This the mechanical amswer to bottling champaign. They lean the bottle neck down and turn it everty day so the sediment falls in the neck then they freeze the neck. This ice plug containing the sediments is them expulsed. I prefer fermeting beer in a pail with a spigot at the bottom. Using a vinyl hose, I fill a 1st décantation vat, My trick is to use a 2nd decantation vat to pursue enven further the decantation. It takes an extra week, but it works very good. Beer does not oxydize.
Looks like a pretty cool product--but would probably be best for home brewers that don't brew very often--aka wouldn't need a whole lot of them. I did some quick math and the cost for the 150 pack plus shipping wound up being more than it would be to buy a new kegging setup. If the devices were brought in by a distributor here in the States, and you could eliminate the $188 AUD shipping cost, then these things would rock! Thanks for sharing Craig! Great vid!
In my experience and from talking with other homebrewers, I've found that secondary fermentation and finings reduce much of (but admittedly not all of) the sediment. As far as the effect of 2ndary fermentation and finings on bottle conditioned carbonation, I haven't had any issues yet. I used one tablet of Whirlfloc in my last 5 Gal. batch of summer ale and it had a great head on it! That said, this product looks cool and I'd try it!
Craig, this Australian invention was show cased on a TV program in Australia called The Inventors An excellent idea - even though the initial investment is significant But the quality of the final beer in the bottles is worth the expense And of course the more times you use the caps the cheaper it becomes Used mine for about 13 brews so far without any problems
Exactly, the sediment in cider sticks to the bottom of the bottle, it does not pour out...so no issue for cider bottlers. If you are using bottle caps then you are not using screw on bottles, yet this product is for screw on bottles. You will have to change out your entire bottle inventory. Interesting that CraigTube has gone over to kegging.
FYI the bottles that Aussie are using are Crown Lager Bottles... One of the best beers in Australia, I highly recommend you import a slab if you can Craig!
Looks Like a brilliant idea,however can you fit them on plastic beer bottles and plastic pop bottles? Also are they reusable? I think you refereed to it but not sure. Last question,is the plastic they are made off durable so that it won't snap or crack somewhere when you are twisting them on or off? Thanks Craig. Cheers
Probably removing the sediment catchers, then capping... but I see that being very time consuming, not to mention other problems. If you're worried about sediment, and have a little home brew operation going I would suggest Kegging the beer.
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Does the sediment contribute to the good tast of the brew.?Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
Looks like a great product. I used to make five cases 3-4 weeks and sediment was always a negative for home brew. Having HCV stops me for starting again, but thanks for your video.
Craig, I wonder after watching inmate wine, if you could pour the wine into the beer bottles, and use the sedex caps to remove the sediment like you showed with the beer?
As was mentioned below, it would be great if these worked with the Coopers PET pint bottles. Would love to get rid of sediment but I'm not prepared to replace all 72 of my plastic bottles for the glass equivalent.
Somewhere around 9:20 you said it yourself-the amount caught in the sediment catcher is about the same that would be left on the bottom of your beer glass.....I don't completely understand the point...is it because you can just filter off the bottom crap in homemade wines with coffee or carbon filters while beer has to be carbonated?
@SionMorel You can get Coopers Ox-bar reusable screw-top bottles. Not sure what your UK brewing website is but I'm from Ireland and the Irish brew sites charge about 12-15eu for 24 500ml bottles. They're great!
Correctamundo. I emailed the Sed-Ex mob recently with that very question and they confirmed that their doovers only fit standard screw cap glass beer bottles, and not pry-off types, nor PET plastic bottles.
Good day mate can you pls help me out as i would like to know how much white sugar i can put into a 23lt beer after fermentation for the secondary carbonating process , always enjoy your tips and video's , thanks Dan
It is a Crown Lager bottle but they are not common at all. The top 5 sold beers in Australia almost all have different shaped bottles. And i would say that Crown isnt one of them.
hello Craig, i always watch ur videos.thks. .i am making a fruit wine..i started it everything is going good..now i am in step # 3 ..i degass my wine with a drill attachment.. it was totally degassed but when i put all my remaining packets and fill the carboy .....i mix it i see more co2 coming out ...it is already 2 days co2 and bubbles still coming out now...what u suggest me now should i keep degassing until day 30..or i should stop and garbage the whole wine? if u can help me please.thanks
Craig-- Just a couple of questions: 1- You say a "standard" beer bottle. When you do, do you mean a twist-off or a crimp? I'm assuming a twist, as if the SedEx is threaded it would not just "fit" onto a crimper. 2- Are U.S. glass bottles, say, Bud Light, threaded the same as Austraillian or Canadian bottles? 3- Did I see a batch of cider brewing in the background in the first vid?? I hope so!!! Thanks-- REDRANGER
Hi, Just a random maybe stupid question. I have started today making my first coopers homebrew. If I was to bottle and carbonate if sediment builds, couldn't I just empty the bottles in to a container and re-bottle but wash the sediment out?
Hi Craig, Thanks for the video, it was very educational. A while back you and a friend shared a rickards red, any chance you care to share some of your other favourite domestic brands ? cheers !
Hi Craig, great video! I noticed that you screwed the sedex device onto the beer bottle. I use the crimp on bottle caps. Do these sediment catchers crimp on? I'm a bit confused.
Interesting idea but here are the problems I see. 1. Cost. This morning's exchange rate puts them over $3 USD per unit. (this includes the cost of shipping via sea) 2. Quantity They don't sell them in quantities to do a 5 gallon batch. So you're forced to buy at least 2 boxes and you're left buying more than you need. (If all you use are 12 oz bottles) 3. Bottles You're forced to invest into more bottles because they require the screw top type. This makes it impossible to cap them afterwards so you're left with the "Brodie" on the bottle. This also stops you from brewing your next batch until all the beers from the previous batch have been drank. Thank you Craig for doing the review on these and spending the money to show us this new product. I think I'll pass on this and continue to deal with the sediment as usual.
i got this problem solved using flip top bottles ,i simply invert them in my slotted box while conditioning and all the sediment falls to the bottom(have to rattle them every other day) i then bring em in my sink inverted as i slowly release the bail i do a quick flash burst just enough to flush out the crap and voila a clear sediment free carbonated beer in a bottle
I switched to using corn sugar for priming and I no longer get sediment in the bottle. I get a "sugary film" on the bottom of the bottle which stays in there after I pour the beer out. The film easily rinses out to reuse the bottles also.
I tried that as well! The guy at the home brew shop I buy my ingredients and equipment from said right from the beginning to use dried malt extract as a sugar supplement during primary for taste, and dextrose(corn sugar) for bottling it, he said it cuts the sediment perfectly and gives it a good combination. It has worked well for me! I have yet to worry about how I pour it, or how much it moves during transport. My buddy used the same equipment and ingredients, but he used regular sugar to bottle, and corn sugar to ferment and he had the most disgusting floating layer of crap in his beer after he let it condition for 2 weeks. It works.
This is a clever mechanical way to mock-up the freezing of champagne bottle necks. Myself, I prefer to have a first fermentation in a plastic pail with a spigot. Then siphon from the top into a Dame-Jeanne. The trick here is to give the brew another week in a second Dame-Jeanne carefully decanted. There are no sediments left whatsoever. Of course, one must top-up with good quality water in order to chase O² and keep an air-lock valve. Then, for a last carefull siphon decantation into the original pail. Add the carbonating sugar and bottle with the spigot. Quite a clear beer.
if your doin a follow up on this can you give us a close up of thread on glass bottle.I've never seen it on beer bottles in Ireland, though seen threads on glass cider bottles(hard cider you'd say) also maybe a close up of the sedex yoke and its mechanism. would love to try them..... when the price comes down. if they'd gone on dragons den with it I'd probable have some already. thks
do those fit on the plastic bottles too? if so is there enough room in the catcher to hold all the sediment that would build up from it being a bigger bottle? andd do they fit on pop off bottles or twist off only?
A 7 second "Taste". I like your style! As for those "Australian Beer Bottles", they look like "Crown Lager" bottles. We have many bottles that are similar to the one you use with the "Shoulder" too, but most bottles I drink from have a slight taper.
@cormaccrawley That's good to know but are they compatible with these sedex sediment catchers and do you know of any glass screw top bottles as I'm not a big fan of plastic?
I eliminate most sediment by pouring beer into a fresh vat on bottling day. I have the original fermenter on a table. The new clean fermented on the floor. Using a tube I open the tap and let it drain into the fresh fermenter. Most of the crap stays in the original fermenter. Then I let the beer sit in the new fermenter for a couple of hours to settle before bottling. My beer is very clear and I drink it out of the bottle no worries :-)
Hi Craig! I recently got a beer brewing kit for christmas and I'm currently brewing my first batch of beer right now. One of the instructions is to use gelatin finings to clear up the beer. Can you give any tips on how to use/apply it?
I always do a 2-stage ferment, even when its not neccesary, its just a habit I picked up from when I was an amateur. Force carbonating and then bottling is of course an option, I just don't get it! If I was going to the trouble and expense of buying a Co2 kit I wouldn't bottle, I would keg. And if I wanted to hand it out I could always fill a bottle or growler as needed. And I don't get "yeasty off flavors", because I choose my yeast, ferm temps, and clarifiers carefully, and pour carefully..
Damn it. So even if I wanted the entire secondary fermentation period and re-bottled it'd just eventually go flat? I thought basically once it was carbonated that was it it would stay carbonated if I rebottled it :(
Hi Craig, I bought a box of these a few months ago, and they work great. However, I'm having a problem with the bases cracking and leaking. I emailed the company and they replaced them. They said that they only had one other problem. Lucky for me I don't bottle all my beer with them, only about 6 or 8 bottles from a batch. The rest is bottled in plastic bottles. Right now I'm loosing 1 or 2 bases from every batch. It happens in the first day or 2 after bottling. Anyone else have this problem?
I hated bottling because of this as well. I finally broke down and got a keg and CO2 setup. After the beer gets carbonated up, I bottle into flip-top Grolsch style bottles. If you buy the bottles new, they cost @ $30 for a case of 12 of them. Or.... If you go to the store, a 12 pack of Grolsch beer is... $30. You get your bottles and the beer is free! lol. Next on the to-do list is getting the equipment for home canning beer.
Hi Craig. Great video and great products. Shame I have moved on to kegging or I would certainly buy some of those. I have one question before I go look at the site where you got them. What bottle tops do they fit onto? Are they for the twist top style only, or do they also suit the 'crown seal' or 'pop top' type bottles where you need a bottle opener to normally remove the cap? Cheers Dave
Get two corney kegs, cold crash and filter from one keg to the other and force carbonate. Cold crashing and filtering also removes chill hase and you can fill bottles from the keg plus you don't have to wait for bottles to carbonate. They sound like a pain to clean, I like using pint bottles, you don't have so many to clean that way.
I have some 'champagne' bottles that Leffe beer use. They use a larger cap than standard (a Champagne crown). As part of the champagne making process they put a champagne crown on the bottle and (afaik) ferment upside down. When done they remove the cap (I don't know whether it frozen first) after which it is corked. Seems a superior and more environmentally friendly solution than this. Personally a little yeast in the bottom of the bottle isn't a problem.
but then why not put the fermented wort from the carboy to another carboy then add priming sugar and put that carboy in the fridge. Then you can re siphon to bottle
Thanks for the video. How long are you secondary fermenting? I've found that after 3 weeks of resting I've had great results without a significant yeast sediment, very negligible amounts. I rack a couple inches above the sediment as well so I do loose a small amount of finished beer but not enough where I'm concerned.
i actually got mr.beer (8 litre) kits on sale for 25$ ! so i bought 2. i didn't know anything about brewing beer, or beer kit prices. but now that i did some research and watched your videos. i should have bought the 4 that were left... oh well too late, i still have 2. its a start. great videos. i cant wait for my first 2 brews to be ready, 1 American lager and one Czech pilsener. next brew will be a coopers irish stout, my wifes favourite ! so i can get some WAF out of this video (WAF : wife approval factor)
The reason there is sediment, is because you are carbonating the beer. If you poured out the beers into a container and re-bottled your beer it would be flat again. sediment goes hand in hand with carbonating beer by feeding the yeast. The only way you can get no sediment while carbonating is using forced carbination and that means kegging and carbonating it with a CO2 tank, you don't get the sediment, because you are forcing co2 into the beer as opposed to feeding the yeast to create it.
I just bought a 6 gallon glass carboy and only have ready 4 gallons of apple wine ready to clear in the carboy. Now what can I use to fill the other 2 missing gallons so I leave little room for air?
Hi Craig, I just received my first 15 sed-ex bottle tops (bottoms) My problem is, recently I purchased some plastic clear screw top bottles and the sed-ex attachments have a diferent screw thread, can you recomend a clear plastic bottle type that have the correct/same screw threads? I'm in UK and spent $80 on these with wrong type thread?
Hey Craig I was always taught that using screw caps was a no-no. Would these be an exception to the rule? I've been using the PET bottles supplied with the the kit and would love to move onto "prettier" looking bottles (as the misses says) and all the beer bought locally comes as screw ons. Cheers, Kris
Hi Craig ,I have been home brewing for 20 years , i find racking the beer after 7 days & letting it sit for another 6 days & bottling i get about 90%of the dregs out of the bottles. I find i can drink from the bottle with no problems.
Thank you for a great channel! I'm in Norway, and I've just started brewing 6 months ago and you've tought me alot! Does this work with the Cooper plastic bottles?
Cool. So they eliminated the complication of how to remove sediment AND add a bottle cap, without exposing it to air. I know you can buy a fermentation vessel with that design, but you would still have to expose the brew to air while transfering to bottles. The only way to use the fermentation vessel and still avoid air, would be to use sterile collapsed bags and use the tap to fill the bags with brew, but it would still probably have air between them when connecting. As someone starting out on an ULTRA small scale, these would be a great addition.
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Its worth pointing out as well that "good" beer should ALWAYS be poured into a glass. And when pouring you can easily control the sediment.
A bottle inhibits your ability to smell the beer as you drink it, meaning you are not getting the full effect of the beer that you either paid dearly for or worked hard on.
I have four different styles of glasses that I use depending on the style of beer I am drinking, a habit I've noticed most serious homebrewers pick up to some extent...
Bingo!
Thanks for your videos and info!
I bought 2 dozen of the Sed Ex catchers and they do work great. It's a bit of a workout for the fingers, but doable.
I started conditoning a batch and decided to make a second batch and also wanted to use the Sed Ex caps.
When the first batch was done conditioning, I placed the bottles in the fridge to cool overnight.
The next day, I removed the Sed Ex cap, flipped on a Star San'd twist cap and capped it.
It takes only a few seconds to twist off the Sed Ex cap and recap with a twist cap, so it doesn't lose much fizz and you don't have to pour from one bottle to another to eliminate the sediment.
Check the price - buying 2 dozen was cheaper for me because we saved on shipping.
I've watched many of your videos - some a few times, and learn more all the time. Thank you!
No knocks on you, Craig, as I would be lost without your videos, but a good heads-up and review for a great new product!!!! Whoever designed these is a genius!!!
CHEERS!!!!!!
Love it -- My ONLY little concern is how it LOOKS..
Now lets advance and see who can come up with a similar system that will allow the sediment to leave the beer & "somehow" you twist & cap the beer?
In the early 90s I was using a device called a Beerbrite cap, it looked like a long babies teat, trap the sediment in it and then bend it back on itself, trapping sediment. Leave it on, or chill the beer well and replace with a crown cap or plastic reseal. Per item cost very little. Cant find them now though, but the same device is still available for sparkling wine called Vintraps. Cheers Craig.
I can finally share my home brews without having to give the lame old sediment disclaimer to my friends! Thanks for sharing this. (and a belated thanks for all the tips I've employed from your other videos.)
Hi Craig, Great videos! Just getting back into brewing again after a few years off. Very helpful. The Australian bottle (stubbie) you show is a Crown Lager stubbie and is a nice commercial brew but no-one I know uses them for homebrew. All my friends use Coopers stubbies, some of them from many years ago that have dropped "shoulders". Thanks again, very helpful and good to see Coopers being appreciated by people around the world.
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You put a lot of effort into them and I highly appreciate your contribution to the brewing community.
i think what hes saying is - transfer your beer to a secondary, then add a large batch of sugar and let it ferment. If you then siphoned it into bottles fast enough and re-sealed them, wouldnt a little carbonation remain?
CHEERS, i knew there be a product for this problem. , Man Craig than x for all the Vids man ive been brewing with mr beer and coopers since june of this year and ive got to thank you for finding a answer before i could even ask the question about sediment! and ive never had a bad batch keep showing these great vids
I really hoped you would show us the sediments, in a small glass, also, at 9:45. Was sad when you poured it out! Just of curiosity. :)
Great info!
I will see if I can get these here in Scandinavia.
Thanks for great videos!
Cheers!
I would totally buy them-- I'm new to home brewing, so I'm just learning all the tricks, but I can see how these would be huge.
I'm enjoying the hobby immensely, but I can see how the sediment would be undesireable to some. This would be an easy fix to that problem, especially for those who you want to try your brew that enjoy drinking from the bottle. I have, unfortunately, run into a few people that insist on drinking from the bottle, and they dislike the last....................
Fruit "esters" are the direct result of the yeast you chose, and the temperature at which your beer fermented. It is definitely not caused by the sediment, and unless you are unusually sensitive to the taste of esters you shouldn't see it in "most homebrews".
Usually, better control of your fermentation temps, and proper yeast choices will minimize or eliminate unwanted flavors.
Like the "bannana" flavor in a hefeweizen that was brewed too warm...
I don't mind the sediment. Beer should be drunk from glasses anyway. I like using grolsh bottles with snap caps, but thanks Craig, always enjoy your information to make brewing better.
Hi Craig,
Your video brings to mind something I think I saw on How Its Made about how sediment is removed from champaign. They rest the bottles neck down so the sediment collects on the cork and then they freeze the neck, remove the cork then they put on a new cork.
Quite pleased I stumbled across this video today. I've decided to give it a go at brewing my own beer. I've drank home brew that friends have made before and the sediment was always a major deterrent for me. Having seen this video i'm excited now actually to get brewing and give these a try !! I was going to ask if you have a preference for beer kits or ingredients etc...but i'm sure among all of your vids you probably cover that somewhere. Going to settle in now with a beer and watch your vids. lol
craig you are like a massive book full of brewing infomation, this info you give is probably worth money! but you choose to give it for free and thats awsome of you, keep brewing man :P peace
thank you craig :) this is going to be awesome. i've got my order in for 150 of these. i'm going to share them with my father-in-law. he's retired now and wants to start brewing his own; so these along with all the other gear i've got for him will complete the total package.
@@micahweiss Don't worry i have 150 tyres to burn! Muppet
A great looking idea! And it works. My only reserve is that each bottle will need a device, and according to item cost, this could be very expensive. I appreciate they are re-useable but only after the beer has been consumed. Also its restricted to threaded bottles, Crown caps in the UK seem to be the norm.
This the mechanical amswer to bottling champaign. They lean the bottle neck down and turn it everty day so the sediment falls in the neck then they freeze the neck. This ice plug containing the sediments is them expulsed. I prefer fermeting beer in a pail with a spigot at the bottom. Using a vinyl hose, I fill a 1st décantation vat, My trick is to use a 2nd decantation vat to pursue enven further the decantation. It takes an extra week, but it works very good. Beer does not oxydize.
Looks like a pretty cool product--but would probably be best for home brewers that don't brew very often--aka wouldn't need a whole lot of them. I did some quick math and the cost for the 150 pack plus shipping wound up being more than it would be to buy a new kegging setup. If the devices were brought in by a distributor here in the States, and you could eliminate the $188 AUD shipping cost, then these things would rock! Thanks for sharing Craig! Great vid!
FYI: This company went out of business and these are no longer available!!
No wonder actually, might be the most stupid product I've ever seen in the home brewing community.
In my experience and from talking with other homebrewers, I've found that secondary fermentation and finings reduce much of (but admittedly not all of) the sediment.
As far as the effect of 2ndary fermentation and finings on bottle conditioned carbonation, I haven't had any issues yet. I used one tablet of Whirlfloc in my last 5 Gal. batch of summer ale and it had a great head on it!
That said, this product looks cool and I'd try it!
Craig, this Australian invention was show cased on a TV program in Australia called The Inventors
An excellent idea - even though the initial investment is significant
But the quality of the final beer in the bottles is worth the expense
And of course the more times you use the caps the cheaper it becomes
Used mine for about 13 brews so far without any problems
Exactly, the sediment in cider sticks to the bottom of the bottle, it does not pour out...so no issue for cider bottlers. If you are using bottle caps then you are not using screw on bottles, yet this product is for screw on bottles. You will have to change out your entire bottle inventory. Interesting that CraigTube has gone over to kegging.
Dan, according to specs, 8g per liter if you are BOTTLING, or 5g per liter if you kegging. Hope this helps
FYI the bottles that Aussie are using are Crown Lager Bottles... One of the best beers in Australia, I highly recommend you import a slab if you can Craig!
Looks Like a brilliant idea,however can you fit them on plastic beer bottles and plastic pop bottles? Also are they reusable? I think you refereed to it but not sure. Last question,is the plastic they are made off durable so that it won't snap or crack somewhere when you are twisting them on or off? Thanks Craig. Cheers
Probably removing the sediment catchers, then capping... but I see that being very time consuming, not to mention other problems. If you're worried about sediment, and have a little home brew operation going I would suggest Kegging the beer.
If you want to condition or age your beer you can store them upright, then flip them a week or so before you want to drink them.
Hello Hello, Hello Craig, hefe weissen beer is cloudy. I happen to like cloudy I 'm sure if I drank a bud or a lauger and it was cloudy it would concern me. Does the sediment contribute to the good tast of the brew.?Thanks have a great day!! Still looking @ your vidios haven't brewed yet I have a hefe kit. I want to buy a williams sonoma kit it is only one gallon kit, so I can get started. Thanks again!!
Looks like a great product. I used to make five cases 3-4 weeks and sediment was always a negative for home brew. Having HCV stops me for starting again, but thanks for your video.
Craig, I wonder after watching inmate wine, if you could pour the wine into the beer bottles, and use the sedex caps to remove the sediment like you showed with the beer?
As was mentioned below, it would be great if these worked with the Coopers PET pint bottles. Would love to get rid of sediment but I'm not prepared to replace all 72 of my plastic bottles for the glass equivalent.
great idea,keen to try but shipping prices kill the whole concept
Are these for screw type bottles or non thread might have missed that part. Good idea though . Cheers Craig
Somewhere around 9:20 you said it yourself-the amount caught in the sediment catcher is about the same that would be left on the bottom of your beer glass.....I don't completely understand the point...is it because you can just filter off the bottom crap in homemade wines with coffee or carbon filters while beer has to be carbonated?
@SionMorel You can get Coopers Ox-bar reusable screw-top bottles. Not sure what your UK brewing website is but I'm from Ireland and the Irish brew sites charge about 12-15eu for 24 500ml bottles. They're great!
Correctamundo. I emailed the Sed-Ex mob recently with that very question and they confirmed that their doovers only fit standard screw cap glass beer bottles, and not pry-off types, nor PET plastic bottles.
Good Video, Fun Hobby. Hobbies are not cheap, just VERY Fulfilling.
I can't help but think how much easier it will be to clean and sanitize your bottles using these.
Good day mate can you pls help me out as i would like to know how much white sugar i can put into a 23lt beer after fermentation for the secondary carbonating process , always enjoy your tips and video's , thanks Dan
It is a Crown Lager bottle but they are not common at all. The top 5 sold beers in Australia almost all have different shaped bottles. And i would say that Crown isnt one of them.
Can you use a coffee filter to help eliminate the bulk of the sediment?
Eccellente, dove si può trovare? grazie
hello Craig, i always watch ur videos.thks. .i am making a fruit wine..i started it everything is going good..now i am in step # 3 ..i degass my wine with a drill attachment.. it was totally degassed but when i put all my remaining packets and fill the carboy .....i mix it i see more co2 coming out ...it is already 2 days co2 and bubbles still coming out now...what u suggest me now should i keep degassing until day 30..or i should stop and garbage the whole wine? if u can help me please.thanks
Craig--
Just a couple of questions:
1- You say a "standard" beer bottle. When you do, do you mean a twist-off or a crimp? I'm assuming a twist, as if the SedEx is threaded it would not just "fit" onto a crimper.
2- Are U.S. glass bottles, say, Bud Light, threaded the same as Austraillian or Canadian bottles?
3- Did I see a batch of cider brewing in the background in the first vid?? I hope so!!!
Thanks--
REDRANGER
Hi, Just a random maybe stupid question. I have started today making my first coopers homebrew. If I was to bottle and carbonate if sediment builds, couldn't I just empty the bottles in to a container and re-bottle but wash the sediment out?
Im from Australia and we mostly use your style of commercially produced beer bottle (with sharply tapered neck) too!
Hi Craig,
Thanks for the video, it was very educational. A while back you and a friend shared a rickards red, any chance you care to share some of your other favourite domestic brands ?
cheers !
Hi Craig, great video! I noticed that you screwed the sedex device onto the beer bottle. I use the crimp on bottle caps. Do these sediment catchers crimp on? I'm a bit confused.
Hey Craig! Long time viewer. Got a question about these brodys. Wouldnt the catcher also catch my little yeasts?
Interesting idea but here are the problems I see.
1. Cost. This morning's exchange rate puts them over $3 USD per unit. (this includes the cost of shipping via sea)
2. Quantity They don't sell them in quantities to do a 5 gallon batch. So you're forced to buy at least 2 boxes and you're left buying more than you need. (If all you use are 12 oz bottles)
3. Bottles You're forced to invest into more bottles because they require the screw top type. This makes it impossible to cap them afterwards so you're left with the "Brodie" on the bottle. This also stops you from brewing your next batch until all the beers from the previous batch have been drank.
Thank you Craig for doing the review on these and spending the money to show us this new product. I think I'll pass on this and continue to deal with the sediment as usual.
well shit. I don't know if you have individual bottles in your country but I have seen them in every store.
HeadShot360IN that's exactly what I was thinking.
what do you mean by transfer and every two weeks? if it ferments in the bottle it will still have sediment
i got this problem solved using flip top bottles ,i simply invert them in my slotted box while conditioning and all the sediment falls to the bottom(have to rattle them every other day) i then bring em in my sink inverted as i slowly release the bail i do a quick flash burst just enough to flush out the crap and voila a clear sediment free carbonated beer in a bottle
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I switched to using corn sugar for priming and I no longer get sediment in the bottle. I get a "sugary film" on the bottom of the bottle which stays in there after I pour the beer out. The film easily rinses out to reuse the bottles also.
I tried that as well! The guy at the home brew shop I buy my ingredients and equipment from said right from the beginning to use dried malt extract as a sugar supplement during primary for taste, and dextrose(corn sugar) for bottling it, he said it cuts the sediment perfectly and gives it a good combination. It has worked well for me! I have yet to worry about how I pour it, or how much it moves during transport. My buddy used the same equipment and ingredients, but he used regular sugar to bottle, and corn sugar to ferment and he had the most disgusting floating layer of crap in his beer after he let it condition for 2 weeks. It works.
This is a clever mechanical way to mock-up the freezing of champagne bottle necks. Myself, I prefer to have a first fermentation in a plastic pail with a spigot. Then siphon from the top into a Dame-Jeanne. The trick here is to give the brew another week in a second Dame-Jeanne carefully decanted. There are no sediments left whatsoever. Of course, one must top-up with good quality water in order to chase O² and keep an air-lock valve. Then, for a last carefull siphon decantation into the original pail. Add the carbonating sugar and bottle with the spigot. Quite a clear beer.
if your doin a follow up on this can you give us a close up of thread on glass bottle.I've never seen it on beer bottles in Ireland, though seen threads on glass cider bottles(hard cider you'd say)
also maybe a close up of the sedex yoke and its mechanism. would love to try them.....
when the price comes down.
if they'd gone on dragons den with it I'd probable have some already.
thks
do those fit on the plastic bottles too?
if so is there enough room in the catcher to hold all the sediment that would build up from it being a bigger bottle?
andd do they fit on pop off bottles or twist off only?
Looks like a good product but a little expensive after shipping to North America. And I'm sure you'd have to pay duty by the time it got here.
A 7 second "Taste". I like your style! As for those "Australian Beer Bottles", they look like "Crown Lager" bottles. We have many bottles that are similar to the one you use with the "Shoulder" too, but most bottles I drink from have a slight taper.
the bottles you were using... were they screw tops or pry off.... also does it matter????
Oh boy!! Just went out and bought cases of flip top bottles.I wish I would have known one day sooner.a penny down and a day late. Thanks for sharing
@cormaccrawley
That's good to know but are they compatible with these sedex sediment catchers and do you know of any glass screw top bottles as I'm not a big fan of plastic?
Hi
wow that is so cool can I use them on my hard cider bottles TYVM 4 your help in this matter
Sal
I eliminate most sediment by pouring beer into a fresh vat on bottling day. I have the original fermenter on a table. The new clean fermented on the floor. Using a tube I open the tap and let it drain into the fresh fermenter. Most of the crap stays in the original fermenter. Then I let the beer sit in the new fermenter for a couple of hours to settle before bottling. My beer is very clear and I drink it out of the bottle no worries :-)
Hi Craig! I recently got a beer brewing kit for christmas and I'm currently brewing my first batch of beer right now. One of the instructions is to use gelatin finings to clear up the beer. Can you give any tips on how to use/apply it?
Got one question Craig.... Im assuming that you have to purchase twist off bottles? Instead of pop top bottles
Intresting! how many times you can use them?
I've heard finings are good for clearing up the beer too. You add them a couple days before bottling.
Upper Canada Lager, made by Sleeman. Ive noticed these in a couple of your videos.
Do you still use these sediment caps, or do you prefer a keg?
Did you get an answer for your question? I've written the manufacturer to ask the same thing.
I always do a 2-stage ferment, even when its not neccesary, its just a habit I picked up from when I was an amateur.
Force carbonating and then bottling is of course an option, I just don't get it! If I was going to the trouble and expense of buying a Co2 kit I wouldn't bottle, I would keg. And if I wanted to hand it out I could always fill a bottle or growler as needed.
And I don't get "yeasty off flavors", because I choose my yeast, ferm temps, and clarifiers carefully, and pour carefully..
Damn it. So even if I wanted the entire secondary fermentation period and re-bottled it'd just eventually go flat? I thought basically once it was carbonated that was it it would stay carbonated if I rebottled it :(
Hi Craig,
I bought a box of these a few months ago, and they work great. However, I'm having a problem with the bases cracking and leaking. I emailed the company and they replaced them. They said that they only had one other problem. Lucky for me I don't bottle all my beer with them, only about 6 or 8 bottles from a batch. The rest is bottled in plastic bottles. Right now I'm loosing 1 or 2 bases from every batch. It happens in the first day or 2 after bottling. Anyone else have this problem?
I hated bottling because of this as well. I finally broke down and got a keg and CO2 setup. After the beer gets carbonated up, I bottle into flip-top Grolsch style bottles. If you buy the bottles new, they cost @ $30 for a case of 12 of them. Or.... If you go to the store, a 12 pack of Grolsch beer is... $30. You get your bottles and the beer is free! lol. Next on the to-do list is getting the equipment for home canning beer.
Where's the link, how much, and how long does it take? Are they reusable? ??
The sediment in my bottles mainly sticks to the bottom of the bottle so it doesn't come out when you pour anyway.
Hi Craig. Great video and great products. Shame I have moved on to kegging or I would certainly buy some of those. I have one question before I go look at the site where you got them. What bottle tops do they fit onto? Are they for the twist top style only, or do they also suit the 'crown seal' or 'pop top' type bottles where you need a bottle opener to normally remove the cap?
Cheers
Dave
craig if those are screwed on and off, i'm guessing they cannot be used on capping bottles?
Can you cap the bottles after carbonation, or will that cause them to go flat?
Get two corney kegs, cold crash and filter from one keg to the other and force carbonate. Cold crashing and filtering also removes chill hase and you can fill bottles from the keg plus you don't have to wait for bottles to carbonate.
They sound like a pain to clean, I like using pint bottles, you don't have so many to clean that way.
oldschoolman 144 wouldn’t your beer oxidize after bottling from the keg?
I have some 'champagne' bottles that Leffe beer use. They use a larger cap than standard (a Champagne crown). As part of the champagne making process they put a champagne crown on the bottle and (afaik) ferment upside down. When done they remove the cap (I don't know whether it frozen first) after which it is corked. Seems a superior and more environmentally friendly solution than this. Personally a little yeast in the bottom of the bottle isn't a problem.
do these only work with twist cap bottles or can you use them on crown cap bottles. i don't have twist cap bottles
but then why not put the fermented wort from the carboy to another carboy then add priming sugar and put that carboy in the fridge. Then you can re siphon to bottle
Thanks for the video. How long are you secondary fermenting? I've found that after 3 weeks of resting I've had great results without a significant yeast sediment, very negligible amounts. I rack a couple inches above the sediment as well so I do loose a small amount of finished beer but not enough where I'm concerned.
i actually got mr.beer (8 litre) kits on sale for 25$ ! so i bought 2. i didn't know anything about brewing beer, or beer kit prices. but now that i did some research and watched your videos. i should have bought the 4 that were left...
oh well too late, i still have 2. its a start.
great videos. i cant wait for my first 2 brews to be ready, 1 American lager and one Czech pilsener.
next brew will be a coopers irish stout, my wifes favourite ! so i can get some WAF out of this video (WAF : wife approval factor)
I prefer beer out of bottles. But this seems a bit much. Why boy carbonate in a keg then bottle?
The reason there is sediment, is because you are carbonating the beer. If you poured out the beers into a container and re-bottled your beer it would be flat again. sediment goes hand in hand with carbonating beer by feeding the yeast. The only way you can get no sediment while carbonating is using forced carbination and that means kegging and carbonating it with a CO2 tank, you don't get the sediment, because you are forcing co2 into the beer as opposed to feeding the yeast to create it.
very interesting! would these work on the coopers plastic homebrew bottles?
I just bought a 6 gallon glass carboy and only have ready 4 gallons of apple wine ready to clear in the carboy. Now what can I use to fill the other 2 missing gallons so I leave little room for air?
Do these fit on standard American twist top beer bottles? ie: Bud-Light and Coors Light for example?
Hi Craig, I just received my first 15 sed-ex bottle tops (bottoms) My problem is, recently I purchased some plastic clear screw top bottles and the sed-ex attachments have a diferent screw thread, can you recomend a clear plastic bottle type that have the correct/same screw threads? I'm in UK and spent $80 on these with wrong type thread?
Hey Craig
I was always taught that using screw caps was a no-no. Would these be an exception to the rule? I've been using the PET bottles supplied with the the kit and would love to move onto "prettier" looking bottles (as the misses says) and all the beer bought locally comes as screw ons.
Cheers,
Kris
Craig!!! does it work on 1 liter plastic bottle or we have to use regular glass bottles...
Hi Craig ,I have been home brewing for 20 years , i find racking the beer after 7 days & letting it sit for another 6 days & bottling i get about 90%of the dregs out of the bottles. I find i can drink from the bottle with no problems.
ahh and you find a flat beer too no doubt ,you must be an englisman from the north,thye like it flat too
what a great idea i am a first time brewer and find your videos really helpful
Thank you for a great channel! I'm in Norway, and I've just started brewing 6 months ago and you've tought me alot! Does this work with the Cooper plastic bottles?
Any way to then cap the bottles after with out sediment??
They are completely reusable right? You don't have to buy new filters or whatever it is that they use?
Great video Craig, keep up the good work! Unfortunately, the website of sedex seems to be down.
Cool. So they eliminated the complication of how to remove sediment AND add a bottle cap, without exposing it to air.
I know you can buy a fermentation vessel with that design, but you would still have to expose the brew to air while transfering to bottles. The only way to use the fermentation vessel and still avoid air, would be to use sterile collapsed bags and use the tap to fill the bags with brew, but it would still probably have air between them when connecting.
As someone starting out on an ULTRA small scale, these would be a great addition.