So when do we become accountable for our own actions?! Why the hell is it everyone else's problem to just do the right thing. It's simply about being a decent human being. Defunding the police is a non-issue. We have to have cops to prevent idiots from doing idiotic things---aka crime, breaking the law
PBD asks for proof. When it is shown, he calls BS because he doesn't know the full story. So he hasn't actually studied the material, and probably won't, but still calls BS, because his presupposition doesn't allow him to say systems can be systemically racist. RM tells him he has read it and is reporting the study and the data, and instead of PBD saying: ok, from what you are saying it might be right, IDK, let me do some more study on it...instead PBD just flat out says the studies are wrong because he knows that date can be skewed. Point being, he hasn't studied the housing date report, but still claims its BS. Crazy.
The “study” came out from the NYT with ZERO facts or numbers. It’s an OPINION piece which is used to stir the pot of racism. And when Mr Martin was CHECKED by being asked do you have the data he replied “send a foyer”. So he ACKNOWLEDGES that it’s simply an opinion piece but relates to it based on assumption alone.
There is absolutely no way you can devalue a house unless they all live in 5 million dollar houses,also he conflated the house being owned by a black person with the house being in a black neighborhood, those are two different things.
I think lies should be interrupted. When the host lied or didn’t have info or wasn’t winning solely based on his lack of facts - then he made dumb claims
You must haven’t watch the Roland Martin show. He not only interrupt people but won’t let them talk. I just had to unsubscribe because it gotten to a point that he also is annoying too. I totally agree with you but Roland is worst and promise he his.
This was the hardest video that I’ve had to listen to in a very long time. He was 100% unwilling to receive anything that was outside his own paradigm of thinking
I wonder if the reason for lower value comes moreso from the fact that those homes are located in poor and high crime rate areas and very likely the houses themselves aren't taken care of... Those things obviously would lower the value of the house considerably compared to well maintained houses in safe neighborhoods.
Some of the wealthiest people I’ve met in my life you never went to college and some of the poorest people I know when to college and we’re so bogged down by student loans and locked into a certain career. College is not a bad thing, but it’s not the end all be all. This guy has a narrow minded, ridiculous mindset. Gosh Patrick has seen like patience
Victim mentality. We should all bow down, because everyone born right now is obviously an ex slave owner and it's all our fault. I'm burying my whip as we speak
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ And the immigrants come here with this attitude !! Understand us allowing you to come to America was a form of reparations 😂❤🎉😢😮😅😊 The only reason they come here is because American was advanced 400 years through slave labor then wanted to replace the slaves labor with immigrants under stand that human capital is the only real money esp since their is no gold standard!
Roland how do you explain all these high paid athletes that make millions of dollars and instead of investing they ball out and then broke after three years after retirement???
@@chrishernandez2576 I would imagine it’s because they come from poor areas with shitty schooling and nonexistent role models, so they never learn the importance of saving and investing. What can we do to make life better for poor kids? Should we invest in better schooling programs for the less fortunate?
One thing that was overlooked was that after WWII VA benefits that allowed returning vereeans to buy a house was not extended to returning black veterans thus depriving them of a major opportunity to build wealth.
Of course. These types always overlook those issues that actually would solve the problem cause when people are educated for themselves, these talking heads won’t be necessary.
Roland was talking about the people in general, not vets who deserve it.. Patrick is not black. How could he know what a person of color is going through, when Roland presented facts..
Man I'd rather not appear foolish unless otherwise I would. But this guy there are many more black americans that think like him and project that they project that onto others and even go to other countries so called Passport Bros when they travel for prostitutes they lie and say they travel to find submissive traditional women but it's a lie it's for more affordable dollar to peso ratio prostitutes, I swear 90%+ of them make videos about this country is racist whenever the experienced they carefully curated in their mind about being in the country does not go how they imagined it would go 😂 when that happens they make a youtube video ohh how is it being black in country "x" do women from "x" country like black men, "x" is racist, they even start talking about these countries and the history that they make up as if they know the country and or culture more than the people from these countries themselves, they even begin to say that the so called afro latinos (Hispanics do not seperate themselves by color that is an Black American projection) are not treated well in their countries and that so called "afro latinos" are oppressed in these Latin Countries as well and not even that, so Black Americans can feel better about themselves they would go to the extreme with fairytale about how the "afro latinos" are oppressed much much worse in these countries, that they have no power, that they are no one in their countries, that they have no representation etc etc. This mentality is also trying to be projected in Latin America for example especially by so called passport bros!!
@@patriarchmike Absolutely!!…it was obvious this guy didn’t wanna admit to the facts Roland was giving him!!!…U could tell by the expression on his face and by the responses he was giving that he had no rebuttal to what he was hearing!!!
@@StreetFighter2010 The only slave I ever knew deeply was my father as he was "drafted" conscripted aka enslaved to serve. And I have no idea who "Jim Crow" is, I think it is not even a real person, right? Just media talking point, right?
You all are wrong he is trying to answer the question and give you the history of why it is the way it is or the backstory of why communities are very violent communities just don't become violent because of no reason he was saying because of the area economic status the housing people being bunch and live on top of each other like of education health care welfare jobs and everything which he was trying to get a backstory to as to why
@@maniaclatdiscipleExactly…People have preconceptions and then they look for things to support those preconceived notions.. Just like David..When faced with facts he calls it spinning.. He’s not very bright… I cannot believe this guy is a millionaire..
@azmohammed83 You are the reason why people like that guy are relevant today. In any other country, not even his moma would be supporting the lvl of gaslighting and BS that guy is spewing.
@klauser10 It's not gaslighting. It's documented history and also my lived experience. You're exactly why POS's like DeSantis wants to ban classes I teach and discussions about my lineage history in this country. Keep people's heads in the sand about what's happening to people different from them.
I grew up with a black best friend in southern california. His parents both worked for los Angeles city. We lived in san bernardino county. The school we went to was 95+% mexican. When we tried as early teens to go find jobs together in a booming area in the valley. Getting a low skill entry level low wage job was damn near impossible. We lived in a city called Chino in California, tons of new shops, buildings, shopping centers, etc. why would you hire a 14 year old part time when you can hire a 30 year old who is willing to do the job? Now knowing that population negatively effects opportunity and my friend and I clearly saw it growing up in southern california. Why in the flying fucking hell would you vote for a democrat who will flood your area with illegal immigrants? Illegal immigrants don’t effect my labor rate now because it is skilled labor. In 45 years low wage buying power has not gone up at all and it directly correlates with our border policies. Just like slaves 100 years ago, cheap and free labor only benefits the rich democrats. And its 100% the truth. The greatest trick the devil ever did was convince us he didn’t exist. The greatest trick the democrats will ever do is convince black people that replacing them with people from south of the border is in their favor. How many black successful land scaping companies do you see? Now look at all the successful black owner operators truck drivers since it requires multiple licensing, insurances, etc. so don’t tell me I’m wrong. So the only way it is, is black people themselves have pushed poor black people so far away from success its insane.
Im conservative, but i gotta say, mr Martin slayed. He had the facts, experience and better general understanding. PBD was like: thats ONE of a thousand occurrence, ur experiences not facts. Then he goes: i am an assyrian, my mom and dad blabla. 🙄
Yea like thats your experience in this country Roland could have broke it down and took him a couple hundred years and those high crime cities weren't always that way if PBD was given the history he still wouldn't accept it he not going back to IRAN to make change he just a klown
@@workrelated272 No one but you even mentioned "goalpost" which shows you can't even understand something you read with your own eyes without hallucinating your own meaning to it. Roland interrupts every time his argument is destroyed. He tries to intentionally misunderstand everything that's being said because he can't defend his position which just makes him look stupid.
@iggyg1370 a two parent working family goes a lot further to prevent poverty than a single mom. I was a single mom for 11 years before I married 36 years ago. My daughter was fortunate to have uncles and a grandfather to be amazing role models before I met my husband. I was a single mom and a working nurse. I retired after 40 years. Close daily in home fathers figures really do help. Guidance and role models matter. Sadly, Far too many kids don't have that
I was a poor as anyone. One of 8 kids. One income family.. we never had insurance. We never had much but we worked hard and appreciated what we had. All 8 became gainfully employed as adults got married and had kids. No welfare anywhere anytime
Roland became rich by manipulating poor angry ignorant Blacks. Making them pissed and keeping them on the Plantation is lucrative. Its called Race Hustling.
That’s because they show honor and respect and he’s yelling and spinning and interrupting everything they say. If you think that’s a good look for him you’ve just showed your true colors
@@zukodany again with the colors thing, why does COLORS have to always be important whenever we're discussing certain topics, by certain folks? true colors... colors... make sure you mention COLORS, LoL ! I just happened to notice this, its a strange phenomenon... true COLORS, colors ! (why are colors so important on your planet earthlings ? ) 🚀
Roland is just wildly shouting a bunch of words not even sticking with the point. The other people can't even complete a sentence without him interrupting them.
What’s his excuse for places like Sweden who now have the highest crime rate in Europe..they have never had zoning laws or segregation yet the same problems persist there
Roland is & always have been a uneducated one man clown show... they've dumbed down their show by having these type of uneducated people on. He's a performer. Plenty of other educated blk people they could have on.
Did you hear what he was saying, bro? I'm in New Zealand, and everything he said I've seen on the web, and when I look, I make sure 5 points of few for 1 question!
Especially when the person victimizes themselves. But it is so easy to say there’s nothing they can do except fight the system. Unfortunately for him many black Americans succeeded and prove that he’s wrong when he talks about systemic racism. There is always racism and we are a lot to have suffered from it, but it’s not something that will prevent us from striving and flourishing.
@@Cbon-xh3ry one is never wrong for mentioning systemic racism. It’s always been here woven in this Americas. Desantis is showing u how to be systematic and to focus on one group or more to divide us all. Hitler used systemic methods to destroy people. We need to tell it line it is. It’s a drain on society and we will never be whole because we keep acting like it’s not a problem.
@@reggied1811 you just proved how ignorant you are by mentioning nazism and DeSantis in the same sentence. You clearly don’t know history and you are just offending me as a Jewish and African guy. All my black friends will vote for DeSantis again and again. Stop trying to use the supposedly systemic racism, that existed in the past but doesn’t anymore, to get privileges and work your ass off.
I actually learned so much from Roland! 1) If you scream and talk over the person you're supposed to be having a conversation with, you will never get anywhere. 2) If you get aggressive, it makes you less believable. 3) If you filibuster, respectful conversation can't take place. 4) If you draw people's attention away from the questions they're asking, you will seriously derail the discussion. 5) Pointing your finger in another person's face and yelling comes off as aggressive. 6) finally, some people can't be reasoned with. Thanks Roland!
I came from Cuba a 3rd world country..born and raised in poverty..my parents taught me to be a good person despite our poverty..being a criminal was not acceptable in my household. Honestly, my father would have beat my ass.
Exactly...same with Asians,, Filipino here...migrated here, been homeless with my small children but never came in my mind to tell them to do crime...like other ones I know who goes to grocery store to steal
@@esstong8064 when mom and dad say you become doctor or lawyer 24/7, and then when others saying you are victim 24/7. You are going to have big differences because of family culture.
@@RR_85 I'm not an expert in poverty or Cuba. I'm a self described dummy who thinks about this stuff from time to time with my little peanut brain. I'm in agreement that it is a culture problem whenever crime goes above standard deviation. However, I think it's a fair question to ask what socio-economic events led to the creation of the crime spike. I think maybe being denied the opportunities to thrive in a system for centuries may be a variable which leads those people who were denied to looking outside the system to attain success. Just a thought I have from time to time.
@@dafaq7561 Culture is a terribly big part of it. I’m Cuban as well and the vast majority of us appreciate the opportunities we have here so much. Committing crime in the average Cuban household is strictly punishable and the community hardly promotes getting into those activities. The Black community is a very different.
Funny how before 2016 most people here in the U.S. we're politically dumb. We used to fall asleep on Cspan,even skipped over the political pages in the newspapers for Sports and Entertainment. A rude awakening has come to pass. We see it everyday now in how we treat each other. This interview was a disaster because no one wanted to listen. Like in a competition the audience found the heated exchange more entertaining.
Funny coming from someone who does not see or hear Jesus but he is clearly with you. It's CLEAR. Isn't it? (They'll probably remove this comment as they have done others... Bunch of hypocrites).
true is easy to understrand truth is straightforward. When someone has to take an hour to explain to you that how donald trump handled a document was some hhow a crime, or there was some fake elector sceme that no one can explain how something so rediculous would have even worked. its all lies.
I just dont get why anyone has this guy on shows for debates. Its such a waste of everyones time every time. Hes been debunked and beaten a ton of times already and yet he never budges on his views. JP for instance made him sound dumb and owens did a decent job too
I was right for calling Roland Martin a clown in 2005. This man is in someone's pocket. He's always arguing without making a point. This is how people get highbood pressure.
@@Tsheed1because of welfare. That replaced the father in the black household, and once the stigma was gone of being a single mother the women didn't care anymore. Before the end of segregation we had the highest percentage of married households and the lowest percentage of single mothers. We had to stick together because of our circumstances.
@mrdeebo313 Right! The welfare system was set up to take the men out of the homes work their families. So the system can raise the kids and be the systemic "Daddy" 🎯💯
@@ronnyzain5962 define victim mentality based on the context of the conversation. Let's see if you're doing anything beyond invalidating someone's experiences. Suggesting we should all be reduced to robots who should move through life as if nothing is consequential, nothing is impacted by previous experiences and future decisions can't be improved by addressed the past. Yes, please define the victim mentality expressed in this conversation. Please.
Its currency in you all believing that blacks are..it make you all feel like you are human instead of Instead of the INHUMANE SAVAGES YOU PEOPLE ARE…you have no clue of the actions of your devil ancestry…you all will have your DAY
What do you think the problem is with most Lefties? They can not admit when they are wrong. Look at what happened with Cov. All these people walking around fine but you still have people that would if the state said covs back,stay in your house and get another vaccine,they would do it.
@@BlackRoyalty_This Ronald dude does make some good points. But he is also infested by the victim-mentality. Difficult to take him seriously. He is also rude. He sounds like a sassy BBW. My aunt is the same way but she is the white trash version.
@@thepamela050 Read the stats and look at the facts. All that Roland mentioned were facts. Defund the police was taken out of context and used for political drama. Just like the name Black Lives matter. Even the meaning of CRT and the word WOKE which is so frequently used for the wrong reasons. Anti-Crt,BLM,Woke,Defund the Police are being used as tools to race bait and scare people into submission. It's seems to be working too.
You can't debate people like this because they aren't interested in a debate. They aren't interested in hearing another perspective. They are only interested in being louder and dominating the conversation.
This guy is exhausting... imagine having to talk to this guy on a regular basis. He seems like the type who always has to be right and will never admit he's ever at fault.
@Darkness380thoughts give birth to belief systems. This can ultimately move further on by creating unshakable realities for many of us. Howbeit, not one person is exactly the same. Similar struggles that overwhelm many, sometimes ignite and provoke others for the better. However, there are far too many examples of those who have succeeded despite being considered the least likely to achieve anything. But the wrong thoughts can easily drive one insane or keep them going in circles until their very end. Nonetheless, when change becomes a visible option it’s a beautiful sight to witness. However, those I cannot reason with, I choose to pray for, because we don’t always get to control the narrative as we’d like to. Yet, I’m convinced that the right seeds sown will come to harvest in its proper season. Anyways, that’s my 2cents…
@Darkness380 of course I battle with the possibility of being wrong about many things, especially in the area of faith. Many seem to act like they don’t see the elephants in the room. That has always alarmed me. Because if others are capable of such behavior, who am I to think I could never fall victim to such actions. I know I’m not above being wrong, but in this life those who refuse to take risk usually do the least and achieve less. Nonetheless, faith is personal. It varies from individual to individual and for me it has been the most helpful in navigating this journey we call life. It hasn’t been a bed of roses, but it’s provided me with a greater perspective and understanding about myself and others I had no clue was even possible.
Roland made some very valid points. His host was totally clueless and show just how racist is prevalent in America and throughout the World. The blatant disregard for facts that were totally dismissed. The host needs to stop being so closed minded and realize that even he can be wrong.
@@XGMC921 THEY DON'T WANT EVIDENCE. THEY WANT THINGS TO STAY THE SAME.. THATS WHY THESE RACIST NAZIS PLAY DUMB WHEN REAL TALK OF CHANGE WITH FACTS AND PRESENT. THERE WHOLE HISTORY PROVES THEM TO BE EVIL. THAT IS WHY THE NATION WILL FALL. AND GOOD. REAL EVIL DESERVES NOTHING.
Pat or whatever the Iranian turned "want to be a white man* name is was very rude. He was interrupting Mr Roland every chance he got. The problem is you racists whites not only don't care about the the facts that Roland was making and trying to present but y'all don't want to hear nothing if it doesn't fall in line with y'all agenda narratives or racist political views. Allah Jesus the devil and whoever else can come forth with the truth about the treatment of blacks along with the social and economic policies to their pale ssa faces...and will STILL find a way to say it's not true or come up with some BS logic about. Can't win with these people
If this guy can fix America's problems why did he flee his country, if he listen to someone who is indigenous to this system he might understand.🤔🤷🏿♂️
Roland is loud, that’s how you know he loves the sound of his own voice. He absolutely loves to play professional victim and pretty much demands the sympathy card to go along with it. I love how he keeps on interrupting Patrick and trying to talk over him. By doing that he showed us what he’s all about. Himself.
This. I've been to some IMPOVRISHED countries that still have very low crime rates, particularly violent crime. Cambodia, for example. This asshole is just making excuses.
Wow PDB said "why did you move?" Why did PDB parents move? That was a crazy arrogant question. I don't know anyone who remains in an impoverished area it's called upward mobility for a reason.
I lived in a trailer park growing up. There was an INTENSE level of crime. No-one in my family took part in it, or ever became a criminal. Becoming a criminal is STILL a CHOICE. I'm so sick of people conflating poverty with crime. I was homeless as an adult. I took a job moving furniture and begged a friend to let me sleep on his couch until I had enough $$ to move on. It took less than a month, and I paid him back by taking him out to dinner and a number of other things along the way. No-one HAS TO commit crimes. They CHOOSE to.
Those are called crimes of desperation.. during the pandemic the main items that were stolen were baby formula pasta and bread.. these are policy failures
Roland is correct in his home value example. The reduces the home owners ability to tap their equity. The solution is to stump out unequal treatment. Then people must earn their outcomes.
@@martelljhixson I am a black man. Rowland is an agitator who likes chaos and confusion. He does not speak for me on any matter concerning race. He does not seek solutions, only craziness.
@@martelljhixson so all black people talk this way (in this context) is what you're saying, it amazes me that you were promote unverifiable stereotypes about your own race
There is so much systemic racism that this man is the most racist race, baiter, and the hater of Republicans in any type of conservative that he tries to argue points that have nothing to do with the subject matter that started the conversations in the first place.
Yup. The type to keep a closet packed full of jars of his own flatulence, shelved & organized like a spice rack based on what he’d eaten for each meal.
@@nguday2003 His answer to "How did you get rich?" was I'm not arrogant enough to not understand that people have different situations. You just hear some buzzwords that go with your personal rhetoric and get completely tricked by verbal diarrhea.
Factual Facts that can't be challenge is historically is that home ownership has created more wealthy people than the average job. Stock ownership is another builder of wealth when invested long enough & consistently. Those 2 mention ownership above also depends on what I own . As An Example: If I Own Swamp Land or Stock Ownership In A Failing Company or A Beautiful 4 Bedroom 3 1/2 Bathroom Home In High Crime Area; ALL EQUATES TO THE SAME THING (NO VALUE). NOW ADD BLACK OWNER ON TOP OF THAT. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SPEECH TWO AMERICA'S SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THIS. I WAS 50 YEARS OLD WHEN I HEARD THIS SPEECH, I PERSONALLY THINK THE REASON MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD THIS SPEECH IS BECAUSE OF THE FACTS SPOKEN IN IT. QUESTION WHAT MAKES A HOME OR PROPERTY BECOME MORE VALUABLE? A) WHO OWNS IT. B) WHO WANTS IT. C) LOCATION OF IT. D) COMMUNITY AROUND IT.
@Be REAL Let’s hear it for anyone who doesn’t take the easy way out. Mental laziness for comfort is a terrible trade/compromise. You can be happy, alert & aware
Evil people hide praise evil people. How can you hear stats that are telling you that black people's property are being undervalued by racist and you see no problem?
Roland bragging about looking things up during an argument/conversation, then he refuses to hear his lies and half-truths refuted during the podcast. Roland Martin is a wannabe Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton that will NEVER concede a point that could effect his ability to make money off of keeping people away from truth and letting go of victimhood.
The question for this guy is "are you a criminal" and then "why not?" His argument is that black people are criminals because they are forced into because of the past. If that's true, why are there tons of black people that aren't criminals and have careers?
Roland made some great points in this video, but at 13:00 Pat asked "What progress are you making by saying that?" referring to Roland pointing out the negative affects of racism. I was DISGUSTED at the implication by Pat that pointing our racism doesn't help anyone. Roland goes on to sit a New York Times story specifically about racism in the appraisal value of minority homes. And Pat COMPLETELY DISCOUNTS IT without any evidence to back up his disbelief. It think Pat made some good points, but I think Roland made some good points as well.
If you can't see that both sides have some valid arguments, then you don't want the other side to be right... You sound like you already have your presuppositions and are unable to remove yourself from them.
@@jaymac2702 Clearly, you didn't read my question correctly. Wow. But, I have some time right now so let me break it down to you. 1. I never said I've never seen anyone much less a professor or a business owner wear a nice suit. That entire sentence was fabricated by you reading something in my comment that I did not write and btw? I was commenting to the OP. 2. You're a racist. Enjoy your day!
I’m a man that grew up poor & didn’t graduate high school. I fell with the wrong crowd as a teenager but then decided to change my life, friends & mindset. Now I make six figures & I am a positive contributor to society. My point is it’s all about your mindset & accountability. Your decisions can make or break you! Love this podcast!
@@advancedrescue1574 what I did was I found a field that I was interested in which covered all the bases I was looking for in a career, for example I love to travel, help people & my career allowed me to do both. Then I made myself valuable to this company by learning all the ins & outs which then helped me move up in the company. I created relationships from within & outside of the company (customers) & now I am headed to be part owner of said company all because I hammered down, studied, learned everything I needed to in order to make myself valuable within this company & anyone can do the same.
In other words the IRAN "WHITE GUY" from another country is telling the BLACK GUY from America who goes through these issues on a daily basis an can't hide his SKIN color or nationality to stay an make a change in these CORRUPT OVER POLICE an impoverished community..PRICELESS 😂😂😂
@@J-fz7nw I didn’t watch the video yet, but this isn’t an objective Group people have already had their perspective.. would you like me to explain to you why your mom is horrible? Are you gonna be objective? the thing about politics and media peoples opinions aren’t being sued. They’re biases are only being confirmed.
In the very first minute of this, he was trying to do what Republicans do which is blame the worst cities on democrats. Roland presented a fact about Mississippi that has the largest population of blacks that ran by Republicans and they are the poorest and he’s like explain that and he wouldn’t even let him get out the question. As if Republicans or Democrats give a fuck about poor Black people.
He really did...And I don't even like Roland. How're you going to ask for data, then call it bullshit just because it doesn't support your opinion lol?
Then after he spins it and argues another point, nobody else can respond, and when they do respond he doesn’t even listen for their entire response before he interrupts, spins it again, then again argues a different point. He’s not trying to listen to what anybody else is actually saying and he doesn’t let anybody else participate. He can’t shut his cocksucker for more than 6 seconds and listen to anyone else’s opinion. He is absolutely ridiculous
@@mmtnews4192that’s the point, he’s not right. OP is making a sarcastic remark about dude on the right; “oh the guy is Loud and obnoxious, that has to make him correct about everything he yells about right guys ??”
Patrick is quiet and insulting and right about everything, ain't he? Unfortunately for Patrick, being quiet doesn't make you correct. He got owned, loudly! 😂
Yes, it must be difficult when someone is passionate about a gut wrenching subject. That’s an embarrassing take from those that don’t understand the perpetuation of hundreds of years of oppression that have NEVER been properly addressed
@@jocksharerock7318 never been properly addressed? What about the people that fought and died for the freedoms of people that didn’t share the same color of skin? Everyone in my generation agrees racism is bad and we shouldn’t operate under the lens of race. Yet it keeps getting forced down our throats about how it’s still happening today blah blah blah. I’m first generation Russian here in the US and from an outside perspective there is far more racism today towards white people than any other race.
So why haven’t Roland Martin asked him? Why couldn’t he go back to Iran and change it instead of moving out and moving to USA?? And how long will it take for Iran to change to something good?
How do you compare a company balance sheet to the rebirth of redlining/blockbusting? Terrible analogy. “I want to see the 47 million appraisals.” Roland you were very patient with someone who has no intention on understanding.
Do you ever think that house values are based on reality? Why do you think the price should be higher just by default? He's so incredibly rude all the time interrupting on someone else's show. The arrogance is something else and it's only because he's black, he can claim racism if pat were to tell him to shut the fck up. Waving his hands around like a moron.
Except it was actually Roland that is wrong, albeit he may actually believe what he said. The study Roland cited mentioned it was done by two researchers. My concern is were they objective or biased? Also, the study said the areas compared side by side were the same accept for race. What I found interesting is they mentioned types of homes, stores and amenities BUT completely left out víolent críme rates comparisons. Which is a major factor in home values, people tend to pay much more if they don’t have to worry about their own safety or their families safety. Here are both of the researchers: Junia Howell and here is what she says about herself, “Formally trained as an urban sociologist and race scholar, I use quantitative (numbers) and qualitative (narrative) tools to identify and dismantle the specific policies, processes, and practices that uphold Whíte supremacy.” Elizabeth Korver-Glenn and what she says about herself. “I study, write, teach, and speak about many things, most of them in some way related to racism, Whïte supremàcy, or urban/neighborhood inequality. Propelling it all is this aim: to do justice.” Sure, they don’t sound biased at all, that’s sarcasm by the way, both are totally biased. I researched some cities in the report, they didn’t cite what neighborhoods they compared. I find that very interesting, Chicago for example had home values for whíte people’s homes at a mean appraised value of just over $600k and błack owned homes at just under $200k. Yet they didn’t give the neighborhoods they compared, why is that important right? Name 3 mostly błack neighborhoods in Chicago with low víolent críme and lower propert values than comparable whíte neighborhoods, go ahead I’ll wait? Hyde Park right? It’s mixed and not mostly błack. That’s important because people pay more when the neighborhood is safe. P.S. I didn’t research this with a right or left filter, I just wanted to know the truth (because I’m tired of both sides lyíng to me).
I love your comment!!!! Front and center. As I suspected there was some major bias and manipulation of the data going on to fit a narrative. The claim doesn’t even make much sense logically
hes not arrogant and he clearly explains the reasons why he was able to get rich while others were not. having a stable 2 parent household is a big factor that i think both liberals and conservatives can agree with, and having access to good public education which he admits affects his community
Not to mention school choice which dems against and rep for. He racist and accidentally says rep points help ppl and he is for them but fights for the dems. So disconnected from reality and promotes victimhood. He is why ppl failing in this country
Who wrote that song..."you should never argue with a crazy man, man, man, man, man, man, you ought to know by now! )Roland knows exactly how to peer into their biased diseased minds, ha ha ha. Listen and learn! ha ha ha ha. 🤣😂
How is he the man😅 just because he’s loud doesn’t mean everything he said was right! He pulled out the “victim card” for all these problem when we can solve from poverty
This guy isn’t all black people, it’s not productive to generalize your people this way. There are plenty of black people who like to have productive conversations, Roland isn’t one of them lol.
No, you are arguing in and with people in bad faith. Neither you or the people with who you are speaking are listening and planning to come to salient solutions or conclusions and also to be understanding of the different positions.
I grew up poor as hell in a farming community and we never had any issues with crime. We all had to pull our weight. We left our doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Nothing ever got stolen. But if the neighbor caught you messing around with something you weren’t supposed to be doing then they would whip you same as if your parents caught you. I moved to the city and got robbed 5 times in 2 years. The last time he pulled out a gun, started shooting, and I killed him. I moved back into the country again since then.
i had a brand new house i dropped another 100k . this is the poorest county in California . i moved there because a new house price was not insane . i sold and took a 100k lose easy just to get out . moved to a small town in farm country bought my hopuse cash and never been happier .
@@philmickelsonscalves7585 - My son was shot 3 times and my friend who is like a father to me was shot in the mouth. Please shut your hole because you don’t know what you’re saying.
All I heard is I grew up around a bunch of land owners in a stolen country. Look up how much land had been stolen from black people in the last century. Also how black farmers have been discriminated against. I don’t buy all that I’m poor shit either, you got some money or assets somewhere.
Actually, that’s wrong. Roland does have an annoying penchant for yelling and interrupting, but that in itself doesn’t make him wrong. The truth can be stated in an outdoor as well as an indoor voice. 😉
Or maybe it's called frustration because you know that the person that your telling the fact's to is full of s*** and they know the information you know it's true but it's not good for their podcast ratings so they mislead with a bunch of like this Middle Eastern whatever the f*** this guy's from is doing
That doesn't make him wrong, him being completely wrong makes him wrong lol He's either delusional or he's a grifter. Very few people actually believe the lies he's spouting
Yeah mine went up too! A lot of what PBD said was pretty stupid. He basically denied redlining and housing appraisal discrimination which has been proven time again and then continued to spew a bunch of right winged talking points
At 13:30 I'm in a mixed relationship and my house was stripped before we started showing due to what my realtor "explained" to us In El Paso, Texas. So chalk that up to maybe the realtors have seen this.
@@boarderwild Agreed. I'm equally surprised that Roland never called attention to it on his channel. He's got major bragging rights for flattening PBD on PBD's home turf.
@@RSSpeacemaker As are he and most White Americans are also living in their own clueless world!!! They have all the answers to problems they have no idea about!!
SO EXPOSING THE RACIST SYSTEM AND THE FACT THAT THEY WONT PAY REPARATIONS ETC AND AMERICANS ANTI BLACK ENTIRE HISTORY IS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.. LOL
I agree. It’s getting to the point that I am tired of hearing the victims crying and asking for the help of others. When at the end of the day only you can help yourself. The victimization is getting old and I no longer associate myself with those kind of people. I no longer have the energy to want to aid them because it leads no where.
I don’t agree with him fully but what you saw was raw pain. He wasn’t 100% wrong. Please be careful not to label his audience with a broad paint brush.
@@boyeatsworld-vr9cidon’t agree with his style but he was not 100 percent wrong. Until we look at the substance is what he’s saying it’s easy to write him off. He not 100 percent wrong. And this comes from a black conservative who grew up in similar circumstances.
@@ejohnson526 unfortunately you are true about a portion of the black community. Grifters like Roland also know this and use this to their benefit. For example… Roland talked about “white” flight. While he also got upset about being told to stay and build the community. Had the nerve to get offended and asked why he himself couldn’t ALSO leave a community that is showing signs of decline.
@@moss830 agreed, it seems like pat (like most people in these arguments) simply lacked perspective that rolan was providing. pat kept rejecting it instead of allowing himself to be enlightened because it wasn’t what fits his narrative (which also happens most of the time)
I was thinking the same. PBD is really showing how weak these people's arguments are and how baseless they all are... or how twisted their own beliefs are, bending over backwards contradicting themselves with everything.
@@NigelOdinson after intense research PBD and many conservative podcast are paying bot accounts to post positivity on their own videos, exactly what you're doing.
@@sophon238 I mean I can imagine he was when you have someone shouting, screaming, making non sense what about isms and changing the topic every 30secs
@@ironpandaloco dangerous is what l was thinking,people like manipulate others into getting violent like the Doctor that was ran over then stabbed to death while the guy was yelling white privilege
He presents the difference in housing appraisals but fails to provide any details that could explain the factors influencing the appraisal values . Saying its because of racism is not a strong enough argument.
Never try to convince someone who is already committed to misunderstanding you.
He's part of the problem in my opinion...
@@joesalerno_emotion5055 People like PBD don’t like hearing facts
@@MrGabayo Thats weird. he was the only one stating them
PBD is the epitome of cognitive dissonance.
@@wynndarring Said the pot to the kettle apparently.
This was actually painful to watch. Racism will never go away because there's too many grifters that make money on it
Buzzword champion of February
Best comment on the whole section. Point being, we need to stop wasting our time trying to cater to them.
Just because you can’t understand what systemic racism is doesn’t mean it isn’t there. I love Patrick but he’s wrong here.
It doesn’t exist
@@jacob.forrest_ No.
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
😂🤣
This man is ignorantly articulate.
@@victoracevedo1078 He was like "let me articulate these lies." xD
Roland isn’t stupid, but he could work on his rhetoric when debating in a hostile environment.
So when do we become accountable for our own actions?! Why the hell is it everyone else's problem to just do the right thing. It's simply about being a decent human being. Defunding the police is a non-issue. We have to have cops to prevent idiots from doing idiotic things---aka crime, breaking the law
PBD asks for proof. When it is shown, he calls BS because he doesn't know the full story. So he hasn't actually studied the material, and probably won't, but still calls BS, because his presupposition doesn't allow him to say systems can be systemically racist. RM tells him he has read it and is reporting the study and the data, and instead of PBD saying: ok, from what you are saying it might be right, IDK, let me do some more study on it...instead PBD just flat out says the studies are wrong because he knows that date can be skewed. Point being, he hasn't studied the housing date report, but still claims its BS. Crazy.
The “study” came out from the NYT with ZERO facts or numbers. It’s an OPINION piece which is used to stir the pot of racism. And when Mr Martin was CHECKED by being asked do you have the data he replied “send a foyer”. So he ACKNOWLEDGES that it’s simply an opinion piece but relates to it based on assumption alone.
There is absolutely no way you can devalue a house unless they all live in 5 million dollar houses,also he conflated the house being owned by a black person with the house being in a black neighborhood, those are two different things.
100%
@@rdawgz866So you are willing to admit racism exists by stating “ black house in black neighborhoods “?
@@ibdamchanything You have never heard of a neighborhood that is predominantly a certain race?? That's not opinion it's just a fact.
It’s so annoying when you’re in an argument with someone that constantly interrupts you when you’re trying to get your point across.
I’m finally done. This was the last time I’m watching an interview with PBD as host. I can’t STAND the interruptions and cross talking!!
PBD is well-known for this.
If you're going to keep throwing red herrings to derail the argument, then you aren't being interrupted. You're being held to account.
I think lies should be interrupted. When the host lied or didn’t have info or wasn’t winning solely based on his lack of facts - then he made dumb claims
You must haven’t watch the Roland Martin show. He not only interrupt people but won’t let them talk. I just had to unsubscribe because it gotten to a point that he also is annoying too. I totally agree with you but Roland is worst and promise he his.
This was the hardest video that I’ve had to listen to in a very long time. He was 100% unwilling to receive anything that was outside his own paradigm of thinking
Martin deserves Pakman.
PBD? I know, he even completely overlooked the statistical facts in favor of his own opinions..
I have to give you credit brother I can't take more that a couple of minutes that "A Black Conservative Perspective" shared. I'm good!
I can’t believe I made it through without tossing my phone at the wall
You must be speaking of PBD.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair
Both of them are just using word salad 🥗
Well said
Fantastic Quote.
@@canibus1985 prove what ever martin said was false. i'll wait.
@@imskinnehow is it racism when the hoods where gangs are ?
PBD can’t touch Roland Martin Facts don’t lie
what facts
@@kickercarcrickets lol ..
I wonder if the reason for lower value comes moreso from the fact that those homes are located in poor and high crime rate areas and very likely the houses themselves aren't taken care of...
Those things obviously would lower the value of the house considerably compared to well maintained houses in safe neighborhoods.
He knows deep down what the real problem is. Just another Hustler
Exactly! He went to college just to become a grifter.
Absolutely. At night you know this dude is thinking ‘man, most of my black brothers and sisters are lazy’. Most. Not all. MOST.
@@coypu2005sucks that it’s true
Some of the wealthiest people I’ve met in my life you never went to college and some of the poorest people I know when to college and we’re so bogged down by student loans and locked into a certain career. College is not a bad thing, but it’s not the end all be all. This guy has a narrow minded, ridiculous mindset. Gosh Patrick has seen like patience
I lasted about 5 minutes. This kinda stupid is impossible for me to listen to
This guy is the definition of "yell your point, and if they don't agree with you it's because you're not YELLING LOUD ENOUGH"
Or, if you disagree with me at all I'll just roll my eyes and throw my hands in the air ...Rollen Martin is a race hustler....and it is super cringe..
Victim mentality.
We should all bow down, because everyone born right now is obviously an ex slave owner and it's all our fault.
I'm burying my whip as we speak
Sorry, but Patrick was doing the same thing on this one ... ego's were flying!
Does racism exist?
@@almontgomery4962 in the minds of people who believe race matters
It’s tough to solve a problem when you’re profiting from it 🙄
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And the immigrants come here with this attitude !!
Understand us allowing you to come to America was a form of reparations 😂❤🎉😢😮😅😊
The only reason they come here is because American was advanced 400 years through slave labor then wanted to replace the slaves labor with immigrants under stand that human capital is the only real money esp since their is no gold standard!
Tell this TRUTH!!!
Roland how do you explain all these high paid athletes that make millions of dollars and instead of investing they ball out and then broke after three years after retirement???
@@chrishernandez2576 I would imagine it’s because they come from poor areas with shitty schooling and nonexistent role models, so they never learn the importance of saving and investing. What can we do to make life better for poor kids? Should we invest in better schooling programs for the less fortunate?
@@gsteezy39Yes, America should do just that. The problem is systemic and the system needs to be revamped.
One thing that was overlooked was that after WWII VA benefits that allowed returning vereeans to buy a house was not extended to returning black veterans thus depriving them of a major opportunity to build wealth.
Of course. These types always overlook those issues that actually would solve the problem cause when people are educated for themselves, these talking heads won’t be necessary.
Roland was talking about the people in general, not vets who deserve it.. Patrick is not black. How could he know what a person of color is going through, when Roland presented facts..
My grandmother is black.. she bought a house.. so did 90% of all the other blks in the neighborhood. They destroyed em
He's not listening, he's just waiting for his chance to speak.
The Host!!
Honestly they both are
@@JamesBond-ro6by Pete's not hearing this because it's not affecting him or his ppl.
@@TheKiddOnDrumsyou might be the only unbiased person here.
Roland is not waiting to say his stuff. He is not listening to a thing Patrick!
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear foolish than to open it and remove all doubt.”
Wow, great original quote. I've never seen that posted before.. 🤤
Man I'd rather not appear foolish unless otherwise I would. But this guy there are many more black americans that think like him and project that they project that onto others and even go to other countries so called Passport Bros when they travel for prostitutes they lie and say they travel to find submissive traditional women but it's a lie it's for more affordable dollar to peso ratio prostitutes, I swear 90%+ of them make videos about this country is racist whenever the experienced they carefully curated in their mind about being in the country does not go how they imagined it would go 😂 when that happens they make a youtube video ohh how is it being black in country "x" do women from "x" country like black men, "x" is racist, they even start talking about these countries and the history that they make up as if they know the country and or culture more than the people from these countries themselves, they even begin to say that the so called afro latinos (Hispanics do not seperate themselves by color that is an Black American projection) are not treated well in their countries and that so called "afro latinos" are oppressed in these Latin Countries as well and not even that, so Black Americans can feel better about themselves they would go to the extreme with fairytale about how the "afro latinos" are oppressed much much worse in these countries, that they have no power, that they are no one in their countries, that they have no representation etc etc. This mentality is also trying to be projected in Latin America for example especially by so called passport bros!!
Surely a white guy trying to teach black people what their life's about.
Don't cast pearls to pigs
Love that!!!!
It's easier to lie to someone than it is to convince someone they've been lied to.
I know what you’re saying but I just wanted to say okay mysterio LOL
I agree, this guy wouldn’t admit he had been lied to, he had NO answer for the facts Roland Martin was stating!!!
@@iamking5140Roland is the one that's been lied to.
It's easier to lie to someone than it is to get a liar to admit they're lying
@@patriarchmike Absolutely!!…it was obvious this guy didn’t wanna admit to the facts Roland was giving him!!!…U could tell by the expression on his face and by the responses he was giving that he had no rebuttal to what he was hearing!!!
It's frustrating watching Roland Martin trying to explain things to these toddlers.
How r they toddlers?
They don't want to hear it
@michaelboulware1240 Roland is a clown after the tiffany henyard interview,he showed his true colours,just another elite srumbag
This dude has a knack for being asked a question and turning that into a rant about something completely different
He wanted to push an agenda!
Typical narcissistic behavior
Roland's answer to every question is "Slavery and Jim Crow!"
@@StreetFighter2010 The only slave I ever knew deeply was my father as he was "drafted" conscripted aka enslaved to serve. And I have no idea who "Jim Crow" is, I think it is not even a real person, right? Just media talking point, right?
You all are wrong he is trying to answer the question and give you the history of why it is the way it is or the backstory of why communities are very violent communities just don't become violent because of no reason he was saying because of the area economic status the housing people being bunch and live on top of each other like of education health care welfare jobs and everything which he was trying to get a backstory to as to why
It’s always soooo much easier to blame someone else than accept responsibility yourself
Responsibility for what ? when someone appraises your home for less than what it’s worth simply bc of your background !
@@maniaclatdiscipleExactly…People have preconceptions and then they look for things to support those preconceived notions.. Just like David..When faced with facts he calls it spinning.. He’s not very bright… I cannot believe this guy is a millionaire..
@@maniaclatdisciplebecause of the area. Who tf would want to buy a house in Chiraq😂😂😂
@@FOE-LEKA it’s not the area, studies show that a black person home will be appraised lower compared to a white person home in the same neighborhood
It’s easier to say “Its all on you” than to actually help someone as well.
I don't think I've ever seen delusion manifest stronger than in this guy.
You mean PBD? All he's doing is trying to shut down a nuanced discussion that would dismantle all the BS he's trying to support.
@azmohammed83 You are the reason why people like that guy are relevant today. In any other country, not even his moma would be supporting the lvl of gaslighting and BS that guy is spewing.
@klauser10 It's not gaslighting. It's documented history and also my lived experience. You're exactly why POS's like DeSantis wants to ban classes I teach and discussions about my lineage history in this country. Keep people's heads in the sand about what's happening to people different from them.
@@klauser10dude he’s black we wouldn’t understand 🤣
I grew up with a black best friend in southern california. His parents both worked for los Angeles city. We lived in san bernardino county. The school we went to was 95+% mexican.
When we tried as early teens to go find jobs together in a booming area in the valley. Getting a low skill entry level low wage job was damn near impossible. We lived in a city called Chino in California, tons of new shops, buildings, shopping centers, etc. why would you hire a 14 year old part time when you can hire a 30 year old who is willing to do the job?
Now knowing that population negatively effects opportunity and my friend and I clearly saw it growing up in southern california.
Why in the flying fucking hell would you vote for a democrat who will flood your area with illegal immigrants?
Illegal immigrants don’t effect my labor rate now because it is skilled labor. In 45 years low wage buying power has not gone up at all and it directly correlates with our border policies. Just like slaves 100 years ago, cheap and free labor only benefits the rich democrats. And its 100% the truth.
The greatest trick the devil ever did was convince us he didn’t exist. The greatest trick the democrats will ever do is convince black people that replacing them with people from south of the border is in their favor.
How many black successful land scaping companies do you see? Now look at all the successful black owner operators truck drivers since it requires multiple licensing, insurances, etc. so don’t tell me I’m wrong.
So the only way it is, is black people themselves have pushed poor black people so far away from success its insane.
Im conservative, but i gotta say, mr Martin slayed. He had the facts, experience and better general understanding. PBD was like: thats ONE of a thousand occurrence, ur experiences not facts. Then he goes: i am an assyrian, my mom and dad blabla. 🙄
No he didn't
Yea like thats your experience in this country Roland could have broke it down and took him a couple hundred years and those high crime cities weren't always that way if PBD was given the history he still wouldn't accept it he not going back to IRAN to make change he just a klown
The patience this man showed with this dude is beyond amazing.
Agreed. Roland has the patience of a saint.
@@governorriffraff7601 I assume you're being sarcastic or you're obtuse.
@@governorriffraff7601Roland has the patience of a trained Marxist gatekeeper
@@workrelated272 No one but you even mentioned "goalpost" which shows you can't even understand something you read with your own eyes without hallucinating your own meaning to it. Roland interrupts every time his argument is destroyed. He tries to intentionally misunderstand everything that's being said because he can't defend his position which just makes him look stupid.
You so right man thinks opinions are facts 💀
Lack of FATHERS plays the biggest role in criminal activity especially in young people
100% regardless of the color of your skin
@iggyg1370 a two parent working family goes a lot further to prevent poverty than a single mom. I was a single mom for 11 years before I married 36 years ago. My daughter was fortunate to have uncles and a grandfather to be amazing role models before I met my husband. I was a single mom and a working nurse. I retired after 40 years. Close daily in home fathers figures really do help. Guidance and role models matter. Sadly, Far too many kids don't have that
At some point you must know right from wrong and choose to do the right thing.
Poverty is the #1 reason
I was a poor as anyone. One of 8 kids. One income family.. we never had insurance. We never had much but we worked hard and appreciated what we had. All 8 became gainfully employed as adults got married and had kids. No welfare anywhere anytime
This guy will fight against the truth with every ounce of his being
who??
Who? Roland obviously. He can't continue to make money if black people stop seeing themselves as victims
Roland became rich by manipulating poor angry ignorant Blacks. Making them pissed and keeping them on the Plantation is lucrative. Its called Race Hustling.
Bias on both sides some delusional on both sides
@kingkemet2527 nah the race baiter is the delusional one
Even two against one, these guys could not keep up with Roland Martin. Unk RoRo brings facts, with receipts.
That’s because they show honor and respect and he’s yelling and spinning and interrupting everything they say. If you think that’s a good look for him you’ve just showed your true colors
@@zukodany again with the colors thing, why does COLORS have to always be important whenever we're discussing certain topics, by certain folks? true colors... colors... make sure you mention COLORS, LoL !
I just happened to notice this, its a strange phenomenon... true COLORS, colors ! (why are colors so important on your planet earthlings ? ) 🚀
@@davidandrews2822 it’s a figure of speech dude relax. Do you want me to get you a dictionary?
Roland is just wildly shouting a bunch of words not even sticking with the point. The other people can't even complete a sentence without him interrupting them.
Because he's a bully by yelling at them, they're not going down to his level. I've never listened to Roland before and never again!
A professional victim will always have cognitive dissonance when you threaten their grift.
Roland says he hates Jim Crow, the Kkk, and slavery but he’s still a democrat.
Hole in one.👍🏻
Bingo!💯👍
👌 perfect
What’s his excuse for places like Sweden who now have the highest crime rate in Europe..they have never had zoning laws or segregation yet the same problems persist there
I actually feel sorry for the people he claims to support and protect.
It amazes me how white supremacists thinks racism in America is because black people talk about it all the time
Roland is & always have been a uneducated one man clown show... they've dumbed down their show by having these type of uneducated people on. He's a performer. Plenty of other educated blk people they could have on.
He who? The host? He's an insane man.
Did you hear what he was saying, bro? I'm in New Zealand, and everything he said I've seen on the web, and when I look, I make sure 5 points of few for 1 question!
Bro, if you don't get what the point?(understand)
A rich black man complaining about being oppressed. How does that make any sense?
You can’t have a debate when you have to educate the person your debating with simultaneously
So true. Especially when who you seek to educate is unwilling to listen or learn...
Dr Clarke once said I only debate my equals and I teach the rest.
Especially when the person victimizes themselves. But it is so easy to say there’s nothing they can do except fight the system. Unfortunately for him many black Americans succeeded and prove that he’s wrong when he talks about systemic racism. There is always racism and we are a lot to have suffered from it, but it’s not something that will prevent us from striving and flourishing.
@@Cbon-xh3ry one is never wrong for mentioning systemic racism. It’s always been here woven in this Americas. Desantis is showing u how to be systematic and to focus on one group or more to divide us all. Hitler used systemic methods to destroy people. We need to tell it line it is. It’s a drain on society and we will never be whole because we keep acting like it’s not a problem.
@@reggied1811 you just proved how ignorant you are by mentioning nazism and DeSantis in the same sentence. You clearly don’t know history and you are just offending me as a Jewish and African guy. All my black friends will vote for DeSantis again and again. Stop trying to use the supposedly systemic racism, that existed in the past but doesn’t anymore, to get privileges and work your ass off.
I actually learned so much from Roland!
1) If you scream and talk over the person you're supposed to be having a conversation with, you will never get anywhere.
2) If you get aggressive, it makes you less believable.
3) If you filibuster, respectful conversation can't take place.
4) If you draw people's attention away from the questions they're asking, you will seriously derail the discussion.
5) Pointing your finger in another person's face and yelling comes off as aggressive.
6) finally, some people can't be reasoned with.
Thanks Roland!
its fascinating to watch isn't it.
Yes!!
@@zsana6403I was going to post. I can’t stop laughing😆 Is this a TV series. Always loved him. He’s a very smart business man Vlad!
He definitely on democrats payroll..lol
Facts! Roland is truly insufferable
Like nails on a chalkboard. It's so hard to pull someone away from ignorance when the alternative is self accountability.
Yes, sir this is so true. I'm sick Of hearing him talk.
Yup!!
Yeah, Patrick is incredibly ignorant and biased.
Poverty is never an excuse to commit crime.
True but it is not just poverty, it is the desperation. Just trying to survive.
You would steal to eat if you dont have a dime.
Poverty definitely is the REASON
for many crimes. Not an excuse!
its the cause. not the excuse.
But the wealthy, rich, and above average do it all the time.
"It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
To them that believe, no proof is necessary,
To those who don't believe,
No proof is possible....
What?
I came from Cuba a 3rd world country..born and raised in poverty..my parents taught me to be a good person despite our poverty..being a criminal was not acceptable in my household. Honestly, my father would have beat my ass.
Same here. Poverty has nothing to do with a good household that teaches wrong from right. Is a culture problem they refuse to acknowledge.
Exactly...same with Asians,, Filipino here...migrated here, been homeless with my small children but never came in my mind to tell them to do crime...like other ones I know who goes to grocery store to steal
@@esstong8064 when mom and dad say you become doctor or lawyer 24/7, and then when others saying you are victim 24/7. You are going to have big differences because of family culture.
@@RR_85 I'm not an expert in poverty or Cuba. I'm a self described dummy who thinks about this stuff from time to time with my little peanut brain. I'm in agreement that it is a culture problem whenever crime goes above standard deviation. However, I think it's a fair question to ask what socio-economic events led to the creation of the crime spike. I think maybe being denied the opportunities to thrive in a system for centuries may be a variable which leads those people who were denied to looking outside the system to attain success. Just a thought I have from time to time.
@@dafaq7561 Culture is a terribly big part of it. I’m Cuban as well and the vast majority of us appreciate the opportunities we have here so much. Committing crime in the average Cuban household is strictly punishable and the community hardly promotes getting into those activities. The Black community is a very different.
When someone confuses you over and over instead of answering a question and then says it’s clear , he’s obviously lying.
Funny how before 2016 most people here in the U.S. we're politically dumb. We used to fall asleep on Cspan,even skipped over the political pages in the newspapers for Sports and Entertainment. A rude awakening has come to pass. We see it everyday now in how we treat each other. This interview was a disaster because no one wanted to listen. Like in a competition the audience found the heated exchange more entertaining.
Funny coming from someone who does not see or hear Jesus but he is clearly with you. It's CLEAR. Isn't it? (They'll probably remove this comment as they have done others... Bunch of hypocrites).
This guy white people saved him from hell so he see them as God's so he would kiss ass .
true is easy to understrand truth is straightforward. When someone has to take an hour to explain to you that how donald trump handled a document was some hhow a crime, or there was some fake elector sceme that no one can explain how something so rediculous would have even worked. its all lies.
I just dont get why anyone has this guy on shows for debates. Its such a waste of everyones time every time. Hes been debunked and beaten a ton of times already and yet he never budges on his views. JP for instance made him sound dumb and owens did a decent job too
I was right for calling Roland Martin a clown in 2005. This man is in someone's pocket. He's always arguing without making a point. This is how people get highbood pressure.
How can they not mention "FAMILY" when mentioning crime? The main reason for the current crime rate is the lack of a father in the family.
Yup democrats tricked them for the vote.
And why is that there's not alot of fathers in the home?
@@Tsheed1because of welfare. That replaced the father in the black household, and once the stigma was gone of being a single mother the women didn't care anymore. Before the end of segregation we had the highest percentage of married households and the lowest percentage of single mothers. We had to stick together because of our circumstances.
@mrdeebo313 Right! The welfare system was set up to take the men out of the homes work their families. So the system can raise the kids and be the systemic "Daddy" 🎯💯
YES! 💯
Its hard to argue with someone that doesn't understand what the hell is going on.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Yeahh, Roland had too many contextual facts
Yeah those are Democrats they are all delusional.
@@ca_quixote RM has no facts just a victim mentality. Rm is a sad little man.
@@ronnyzain5962 define victim mentality based on the context of the conversation. Let's see if you're doing anything beyond invalidating someone's experiences. Suggesting we should all be reduced to robots who should move through life as if nothing is consequential, nothing is impacted by previous experiences and future decisions can't be improved by addressed the past.
Yes, please define the victim mentality expressed in this conversation. Please.
Victimhood mentality makes me sick to my stomach....Human frailty at its most disgusting.
LOL housing appraisers are responsible for all inequality and the failures of demcrats.
Try having one for a baby mom! Worse mistake of my life!
Its currency in you all believing that blacks are..it make you all feel like you are human instead of Instead of the INHUMANE SAVAGES YOU PEOPLE ARE…you have no clue of the actions of your devil ancestry…you all will have your DAY
He ain’t no victim he from Texas he grew up in a republican state he didn’t grow up in a democratic state he acting
I grew up in a Democratic state and shit was crazy I might be traumatized!just had to move to a republican state and life was better!
I’m black and grew up watching Roland Martin and liked him a lot. But now I’m an adult and listen to him he is so emotional and argumentative
He’s trying to win the argument as opposed to actually having an honest debate. He would never be able to admit he’s wrong even if he knew it.
What do you think the problem is with most Lefties? They can not admit when they are wrong. Look at what happened with Cov. All these people walking around fine but you still have people that would if the state said covs back,stay in your house and get another vaccine,they would do it.
😂😂😂😂
Which one😂
Patrick was getting annoyed by the facts😂
@@BlackRoyalty_This Ronald dude does make some good points. But he is also infested by the victim-mentality. Difficult to take him seriously. He is also rude. He sounds like a sassy BBW. My aunt is the same way but she is the white trash version.
“Because I’m louder I’m winning an arguement” guy. SMH. Pat, you deserve an award for dealing with this guy.
He has facts bro, stop being a fanboy.
@@isiahjones9646 No he only yells louder.
@@thepamela050 Read the stats and look at the facts. All that Roland mentioned were facts. Defund the police was taken out of context and used for political drama. Just like the name Black Lives matter. Even the meaning of CRT and the word WOKE which is so frequently used for the wrong reasons. Anti-Crt,BLM,Woke,Defund the Police are being used as tools to race bait and scare people into submission. It's seems to be working too.
He argues like a woman.
Sorry buddy, he may have been louder but he came with facts, some of which may be inconvenient for your POV.
These type of people take no accountability even though they are completely wrong . This is the sad truth of our generation.
I’m a 49 year old Black women & PBD & friends today are living in an alternative world. No one is defunding the police. Smh
They truly said to defend the police.
@@whoareyou7351She said they DIDN'T defund the police. Learn how to read
You can't debate people like this because they aren't interested in a debate. They aren't interested in hearing another perspective. They are only interested in being louder and dominating the conversation.
All he Does is interrupt, smugly smile, talk all folksy and use words like “hope” “Jim crow”, bring up slavery, act like a victim, project.
Clowns ,Patrick is the one disregarding facts . Atleast the clown Patrick should look at the godamn facts before blabbering.
He didn't want to stay behind and help bring up his old neighborhood but he does want you to do it
Can say the same about Pat. The issues with politics is no one is willing to be convinced by the ideas or facts from the other side.
Bullies
This guy is exhausting... imagine having to talk to this guy on a regular basis. He seems like the type who always has to be right and will never admit he's ever at fault.
RM is a gigantic racist POS.
I know Patrick on anything not fiscal matters is definitely that ...I agree
Most of the leftist are exhausting.
His tactic is to wear you down with rhetoric
He's annoying.
The thought that you are never wrong is a very dangerous thing
Yea for pat this guy is unhinged
Couldn't have said it better myself.
@Darkness380thoughts give birth to belief systems. This can ultimately move further on by creating unshakable realities for many of us. Howbeit, not one person is exactly the same. Similar struggles that overwhelm many, sometimes ignite and provoke others for the better.
However, there are far too many examples of those who have succeeded despite being considered the least likely to achieve anything. But the wrong thoughts can easily drive one insane or keep them going in circles until their very end.
Nonetheless, when change becomes a visible option it’s a beautiful sight to witness. However, those I cannot reason with, I choose to pray for, because we don’t always get to control the narrative as we’d like to. Yet, I’m convinced that the right seeds sown will come to harvest in its proper season.
Anyways, that’s my 2cents…
@Darkness380 of course I battle with the possibility of being wrong about many things, especially in the area of faith.
Many seem to act like they don’t see the elephants in the room. That has always alarmed me. Because if others are capable of such behavior, who am I to think I could never fall victim to such actions. I know I’m not above being wrong, but in this life those who refuse to take risk usually do the least and achieve less.
Nonetheless, faith is personal. It varies from individual to individual and for me it has been the most helpful in navigating this journey we call life. It hasn’t been a bed of roses, but it’s provided me with a greater perspective and understanding about myself and others I had no clue was even possible.
Both can’t see that both parties don’t care about minorities
Roland made some very valid points. His host was totally clueless and show just how racist is prevalent in America and throughout the World. The blatant disregard for facts that were totally dismissed. The host needs to stop being so closed minded and realize that even he can be wrong.
Ok race baitor
This man is working hard to MISunderstand on purpose! Gaslighting at its best. Lol
Which one?
There are 2 men in this conversation. Which are you talking about?
@@Alessandro-bv7in the black one
@@XGMC921 THEY DON'T WANT EVIDENCE. THEY WANT THINGS TO STAY THE SAME.. THATS WHY THESE RACIST NAZIS PLAY DUMB WHEN REAL TALK OF CHANGE WITH FACTS AND PRESENT. THERE WHOLE HISTORY PROVES THEM TO BE EVIL. THAT IS WHY THE NATION WILL FALL. AND GOOD. REAL EVIL DESERVES NOTHING.
He was like watching JELLO be nailed to the wall.... deflection...avoidance....deception.
“You’re very good at interrupting” Roland, then proceeds to interrupt.
7:38
After spending all the video not letting Pat finish his thought
Roland looks like he could roll wright out the door 👍
Pat or whatever the Iranian turned "want to be a white man* name is was very rude. He was interrupting Mr Roland every chance he got. The problem is you racists whites not only don't care about the the facts that Roland was making and trying to present but y'all don't want to hear nothing if it doesn't fall in line with y'all agenda narratives or racist political views. Allah Jesus the devil and whoever else can come forth with the truth about the treatment of blacks along with the social and economic policies to their pale ssa faces...and will STILL find a way to say it's not true or come up with some BS logic about. Can't win with these people
So what I learned is growing up in a supportive family leads to a more successful life.
This is the only thing of relevance or truth Roland inferred to in this whole interview
@@jamesfaison633incorrect. It is the only truth that your heart was able to receive but it DEFINITELY wasn’t the only truth Rolan spoke
If this guy can fix America's problems why did he flee his country, if he listen to someone who is indigenous to this system he might understand.🤔🤷🏿♂️
Roland is loud, that’s how you know he loves the sound of his own voice. He absolutely loves to play professional victim and pretty much demands the sympathy card to go along with it. I love how he keeps on interrupting Patrick and trying to talk over him. By doing that he showed us what he’s all about. Himself.
He’s one of those people that feels the louder you are, the more right you are. It’s annoying.
African Americans don’t respect Roland. He’s a Boule member
thank you JB, preach.
He is so loud, but he isnt really giving real facts...just pure emotion😭 give that man a kleenex.
I've noticed the constant interrupting thing is done by people who are almost always wrong, cannot accept being wrong, and have garbage opinions.
Never seen someone be so not self aware talk with so much confidence
You should check out the antonio brown interview!
Dunning Kruger effect in full force here. Coupled with race grifting.
This. I've been to some IMPOVRISHED countries that still have very low crime rates, particularly violent crime. Cambodia, for example. This asshole is just making excuses.
I know PDB was completely out of touch and kept cutting Roland off
Wow PDB said "why did you move?" Why did PDB parents move? That was a crazy arrogant question. I don't know anyone who remains in an impoverished area it's called upward mobility for a reason.
I lived in a trailer park growing up. There was an INTENSE level of crime. No-one in my family took part in it, or ever became a criminal. Becoming a criminal is STILL a CHOICE.
I'm so sick of people conflating poverty with crime.
I was homeless as an adult. I took a job moving furniture and begged a friend to let me sleep on his couch until I had enough $$ to move on. It took less than a month, and I paid him back by taking him out to dinner and a number of other things along the way.
No-one HAS TO commit crimes. They CHOOSE to.
💯%!!!
good stuff bro
Bingo
Those are called crimes of desperation.. during the pandemic the main items that were stolen were baby formula pasta and bread.. these are policy failures
Good 4 you
PBD is so wrong guys. I promise you.
Roland is exactly what happens when you start believing your lie or not facing up to the truth.
It's his racket, how hard was it to answer one question
PBD is exactly what happens when you don't listen to the words, don't listen to the history, and then says "Why isn't it all fixed?"
What's the lie he believes?
Roland is way too emotional.. even if he’s making good points it gets lost in the delivery.. kudos to Patrick..
@@christopherallen9476 i agree i lived in hoods and these areas have too much to fight to sum it up like that
"Raising your voice doesn't validate your argument" this entire temper tantrum was summarized right there.
Anyone debating Roland MUST INSIST ON A MODERATOR just for their own sanity.
This conversation gave me a headache trying to listen to. The constant talking over each other was at another level.
But facts doo and allowing an iranian immigrant and welfare king to tell u how to live ur life is sad boomers.
You can’t argue with stupid, you’ll end up stooping to that level
*common mistakes*
VICTIM VS VICTOR
"Raising your voice doesn't validate your argument." Well said Patrick, in response to Roland.
Patrick is full of it.
Roland is correct in his home value example. The reduces the home owners ability to tap their equity.
The solution is to stump out unequal treatment.
Then people must earn their outcomes.
Patrick is full of wisdom and maturity.
@@tyy5557 so are you clown
ROLAND WAS SPOT ON AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE HIM.
Great content, thank you, Patrick.👏🏽
I’m not even 2 minutes in, and this guy gives the vibes of wanting to score points or “own” his opponent rather than attaining the truth
You can see when he doesn't listen to PBD and just smiles as if he's smiling for the camera. It's ridiculous 2 minutes in.
But he did is. This PBD scammer is applying business to politics and government when it doesn’t work
That’s for sure especially after his proud remark of “I just owned a black conservative on this topic.”
Racist are the worse trash 🗑 of da human species..
☝️🍋
He’s the absolute worst
“Can’t lose an argument if you yell and interrupt the whole time” is what Rolands publicist tells him
That’s just how black talk when we’re frustrated talking to someone intentionally being an idiot.
So dude isn't constantly interrupt a rolan
@@martelljhixson I am a black man. Rowland is an agitator who likes chaos and confusion. He does not speak for me on any matter concerning race. He does not seek solutions, only craziness.
@@bromack3 he doesn’t speak for you but what fact did he say that was wrong before he could finish his statement
@@martelljhixson so all black people talk this way (in this context) is what you're saying, it amazes me that you were promote unverifiable stereotypes about your own race
The only thing this dude ever obliterated was his credibility
I’m sure he’s obliterated a few toilets, now and then
And some cheeseburgers
@@GeneralAnnoyancehaven't we all. 😂
There is so much systemic racism that this man is the most racist race, baiter, and the hater of Republicans in any type of conservative that he tries to argue points that have nothing to do with the subject matter that started the conversations in the first place.
And the credibility of CNN, who he was a sr analyst for
This guy only hears himself speak and he loves it.
No, no, no... now wait, now, now... no, no... hold on...
I heard the guest and thought he did a good job. Actually better then the underprepared host
@@nguday2003He did a good job at pushing a turd out while crying like a baby.
Yup.
The type to keep a closet packed full of jars of his own flatulence, shelved & organized like a spice rack based on what he’d eaten for each meal.
@@nguday2003 His answer to "How did you get rich?" was I'm not arrogant enough to not understand that people have different situations. You just hear some buzzwords that go with your personal rhetoric and get completely tricked by verbal diarrhea.
Roland is absolutely correct !
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience.” Mark Twain
So talking money away is not defunding? If you reallocate money from something, you are defunding it! They want to reallocate away from the police!
Dude definitely isn't stupid, he knew exactly what he was doing, he just isn't anywhere near as smart as PBD and his 💩didn't hold up.
Factual Facts that can't be challenge is historically is that home ownership has created more wealthy people than the average job. Stock ownership is another builder of wealth when invested long enough & consistently. Those 2 mention ownership above also depends on what I own .
As An Example: If I Own Swamp Land or Stock Ownership In A Failing Company or A Beautiful 4 Bedroom 3 1/2 Bathroom Home In High Crime Area; ALL EQUATES TO THE SAME THING (NO VALUE).
NOW ADD BLACK OWNER ON TOP OF THAT.
MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SPEECH TWO AMERICA'S SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THIS.
I WAS 50 YEARS OLD WHEN I HEARD THIS SPEECH, I PERSONALLY THINK THE REASON MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD THIS SPEECH IS BECAUSE OF THE FACTS SPOKEN IN IT.
QUESTION
WHAT MAKES A HOME OR PROPERTY BECOME MORE VALUABLE?
A) WHO OWNS IT.
B) WHO WANTS IT.
C) LOCATION OF IT.
D) COMMUNITY AROUND IT.
@@mattp4211 proof?
@Jason L Smart, in what capacity, he didn't counter with any factual data and was overly dismissive.
You know you’re winning the debate when you’re angry and refuse to let the other side talk by talking over them
Seems as if both sides are winning the debate so far
When you’re addicted to problems & rage you tend to hide from & even purposely hide simple, reasonable solutions.
@Be REAL Let’s hear it for anyone who doesn’t take the easy way out. Mental laziness for comfort is a terrible trade/compromise. You can be happy, alert & aware
Evil people hide praise evil people. How can you hear stats that are telling you that black people's property are being undervalued by racist and you see no problem?
Roland bragging about looking things up during an argument/conversation, then he refuses to hear his lies and half-truths refuted during the podcast. Roland Martin is a wannabe Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton that will NEVER concede a point that could effect his ability to make money off of keeping people away from truth and letting go of victimhood.
The question for this guy is "are you a criminal" and then "why not?" His argument is that black people are criminals because they are forced into because of the past. If that's true, why are there tons of black people that aren't criminals and have careers?
Roland made some great points in this video, but at 13:00 Pat asked "What progress are you making by saying that?" referring to Roland pointing out the negative affects of racism. I was DISGUSTED at the implication by Pat that pointing our racism doesn't help anyone. Roland goes on to sit a New York Times story specifically about racism in the appraisal value of minority homes. And Pat COMPLETELY DISCOUNTS IT without any evidence to back up his disbelief. It think Pat made some good points, but I think Roland made some good points as well.
Omgoodness I can’t with that man 🤦🏻♀️. This was annoying and painful to watch. The people that listen to him need help.
If you can't see that both sides have some valid arguments, then you don't want the other side to be right... You sound like you already have your presuppositions and are unable to remove yourself from them.
This is proof that you don’t need to be a logical thinker to be rich and wear a suit.
Absolutely agree..
Are you really have to be is a politician.
They both have suits. Who are you referring to?
What does wearing a suit have to do with anything? Where's the logic in that?
@@shadowess1961 you've never seen a professor or a business owner wear a nice suit?
@@jaymac2702 Clearly, you didn't read my question correctly. Wow. But, I have some time right now so let me break it down to you.
1. I never said I've never seen anyone much less a professor or a business owner wear a nice suit. That entire sentence was fabricated by you reading something in my comment that I did not write and btw? I was commenting to the OP.
2. You're a racist.
Enjoy your day!
I’m a man that grew up poor & didn’t graduate high school. I fell with the wrong crowd as a teenager but then decided to change my life, friends & mindset. Now I make six figures & I am a positive contributor to society. My point is it’s all about your mindset & accountability. Your decisions can make or break you! Love this podcast!
👏👏👏
I need you to help me, not with the wrong crowd or anything, just need to know the direction to go without a degree in how to make six figures
Nice comeback! What did/do you do for a living?
@@advancedrescue1574 what I did was I found a field that I was interested in which covered all the bases I was looking for in a career, for example I love to travel, help people & my career allowed me to do both. Then I made myself valuable to this company by learning all the ins & outs which then helped me move up in the company. I created relationships from within & outside of the company (customers) & now I am headed to be part owner of said company all because I hammered down, studied, learned everything I needed to in order to make myself valuable within this company & anyone can do the same.
@@trevor2830 I am regional vice president of an auditing company & worked my way up from the bottom.
The guy from Iran telling the black guy to stay in the community and change it is the most hilarious thing ever
well said lol
I said the exact same thing
exactly
In other words the IRAN "WHITE GUY" from another country is telling the BLACK GUY from America who goes through these issues on a daily basis an can't hide his SKIN color or nationality to stay an make a change in these CORRUPT OVER POLICE an impoverished community..PRICELESS 😂😂😂
PBD is a smart guy, but this is the first time I have seen him totally miss the point. He is too into his own world view.
Roland ate your ass for lunch. He hit you with facts you could not handle.
😂😂😂it’s just u in here 😂😂nobody agreeed with u
@@J-fz7nw I didn’t watch the video yet, but this isn’t an objective Group people have already had their perspective.. would you like me to explain to you why your mom is horrible? Are you gonna be objective? the thing about politics and media peoples opinions aren’t being sued. They’re biases are only being confirmed.
In the very first minute of this, he was trying to do what Republicans do which is blame the worst cities on democrats. Roland presented a fact about Mississippi that has the largest population of blacks that ran by Republicans and they are the poorest and he’s like explain that and he wouldn’t even let him get out the question. As if Republicans or Democrats give a fuck about poor Black people.
He really did...And I don't even like Roland. How're you going to ask for data, then call it bullshit just because it doesn't support your opinion lol?
@@ghosttheillest that’s literally wat Roland did tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gets asked a question, doesn't like it. Then, argues another point. Confusion is the weapon of the beast
Democrats do that
This is how you know he was raised by a single Melanated Black woman. He gets it from her.
Then after he spins it and argues another point, nobody else can respond, and when they do respond he doesn’t even listen for their entire response before he interrupts, spins it again, then again argues a different point. He’s not trying to listen to what anybody else is actually saying and he doesn’t let anybody else participate. He can’t shut his cocksucker for more than 6 seconds and listen to anyone else’s opinion. He is absolutely ridiculous
Dude is loud and insulting and right about everything aint he? 😂
Not at all.
@@mmtnews4192that’s the point, he’s not right. OP is making a sarcastic remark about dude on the right;
“oh the guy is Loud and obnoxious, that has to make him correct about everything he yells about right guys ??”
@@MegaJohn334 ok miss understood
Patrick is quiet and insulting and right about everything, ain't he? Unfortunately for Patrick, being quiet doesn't make you correct. He got owned, loudly! 😂
Imagine living next to him lol
You can not have rational conversations with an emotional person
Yes, it must be difficult when someone is passionate about a gut wrenching subject. That’s an embarrassing take from those that don’t understand the perpetuation of hundreds of years of oppression that have NEVER been properly addressed
@@jocksharerock7318 Waaah waaah booo hooo
@@jocksharerock7318 never been properly addressed? What about the people that fought and died for the freedoms of people that didn’t share the same color of skin? Everyone in my generation agrees racism is bad and we shouldn’t operate under the lens of race. Yet it keeps getting forced down our throats about how it’s still happening today blah blah blah. I’m first generation Russian here in the US and from an outside perspective there is far more racism today towards white people than any other race.
@@fudgenugget8875Precisely. Your statement is one the very reasons why this country is so divided!
Both of them are emotional. For the record.
So why haven’t Roland Martin asked him? Why couldn’t he go back to Iran and change it instead of moving out and moving to USA?? And how long will it take for Iran to change to something good?
How do you compare a company balance sheet to the rebirth of redlining/blockbusting? Terrible analogy. “I want to see the 47 million appraisals.” Roland you were very patient with someone who has no intention on understanding.
Very very patient. I lost alot of respect for patrick with this interview.
Do you ever think that house values are based on reality? Why do you think the price should be higher just by default?
He's so incredibly rude all the time interrupting on someone else's show.
The arrogance is something else and it's only because he's black, he can claim racism if pat were to tell him to shut the fck up. Waving his hands around like a moron.
It was an example of how you have to put things in context, not a literal comparison.
Except it was actually Roland that is wrong, albeit he may actually believe what he said.
The study Roland cited mentioned it was done by two researchers. My concern is were they objective or biased? Also, the study said the areas compared side by side were the same accept for race. What I found interesting is they mentioned types of homes, stores and amenities BUT completely left out víolent críme rates comparisons. Which is a major factor in home values, people tend to pay much more if they don’t have to worry about their own safety or their families safety.
Here are both of the researchers:
Junia Howell and here is what she says about herself, “Formally trained as an urban sociologist and race scholar, I use quantitative (numbers) and qualitative (narrative) tools to identify and dismantle the specific policies, processes, and practices that uphold Whíte supremacy.”
Elizabeth Korver-Glenn and what she says about herself. “I study, write, teach, and speak about many things, most of them in some way related to racism, Whïte supremàcy, or urban/neighborhood inequality. Propelling it all is this aim: to do justice.”
Sure, they don’t sound biased at all, that’s sarcasm by the way, both are totally biased.
I researched some cities in the report, they didn’t cite what neighborhoods they compared. I find that very interesting, Chicago for example had home values for whíte people’s homes at a mean appraised value of just over $600k and błack owned homes at just under $200k. Yet they didn’t give the neighborhoods they compared, why is that important right? Name 3 mostly błack neighborhoods in Chicago with low víolent críme and lower propert values than comparable whíte neighborhoods, go ahead I’ll wait? Hyde Park right? It’s mixed and not mostly błack. That’s important because people pay more when the neighborhood is safe.
P.S. I didn’t research this with a right or left filter, I just wanted to know the truth (because I’m tired of both sides lyíng to me).
I love your comment!!!! Front and center. As I suspected there was some major bias and manipulation of the data going on to fit a narrative. The claim doesn’t even make much sense logically
I’ve never seem someone so committed to victimhood
Its his entire personality. His proof is conspiracy theories like white flight and modern red lining.
Bingo
He's trying to pull a Jedi mind trick. Ignore your eyes, the Democrats are the ones for more police funding. What a charlatan.
yawn. wake up
@@baconation2637 ah yes because redlining is illegal that means it doesn’t happen anymore. That’s a good one!
"Roland, how are you rich?"
His brain almost melted. 😂Then he proceeded to explain benefits of 2-parent families and education 🤔
Did he hurt your feelings?
Great comment! Check out the AI BOTS or Antifa BLM cultists posts, it is literally SJW tears
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
hes not arrogant and he clearly explains the reasons why he was able to get rich while others were not. having a stable 2 parent household is a big factor that i think both liberals and conservatives can agree with, and having access to good public education which he admits affects his community
Not to mention school choice which dems against and rep for. He racist and accidentally says rep points help ppl and he is for them but fights for the dems. So disconnected from reality and promotes victimhood. He is why ppl failing in this country
Roland Martin is the man, thank you for that very fine analysis I needed to hear that.
Who wrote that song..."you should never argue with a crazy man, man, man, man, man, man, you ought to know by now! )Roland knows exactly how to peer into their biased diseased minds, ha ha ha.
Listen and learn! ha ha ha ha. 🤣😂
How is he the man😅 just because he’s loud doesn’t mean everything he said was right! He pulled out the “victim card” for all these problem when we can solve from poverty
THIS is why as a black man I can’t talk with my own people because we LOVE to debate and be right. It’s TOXIC as hell!
Sounds like your one of those people
This guy isn’t all black people, it’s not productive to generalize your people this way. There are plenty of black people who like to have productive conversations, Roland isn’t one of them lol.
No, you are arguing in and with people in bad faith. Neither you or the people with who you are speaking are listening and planning to come to salient solutions or conclusions and also to be understanding of the different positions.
As a generalization, you are correct.
That's the reason we're still struggling. We only judge on how someone delivers their message & not analyze the message being given...
I like how Patrick Bet David broke down the difference between persuasion and manipulation.
Especially when he tries the manipulation tactic all the time by referring to anecdotes constantly, whether about himself or someone he knows
that there was a master at work, loved that point. but the person he was talking to will protect his income to death
He's a simple minded clown, how did this is the type of person who gets a platform
No, he just mentioned it to trigger you! Well, prepare you to see him get his ass kicked. #adhominem
@@shadeamgraham3765 where did you come from and what have you made of yourself ?
"If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet. "
- Proverbs 29:9
Exactly
Couldn't agree more.
Wow, you are on point with that scripture.
Couldn’t have said it better
Amen
You wasted your time PBD. You see why they failed. They don’t have hope.
I grew up poor as hell in a farming community and we never had any issues with crime. We all had to pull our weight. We left our doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Nothing ever got stolen.
But if the neighbor caught you messing around with something you weren’t supposed to be doing then they would whip you same as if your parents caught you.
I moved to the city and got robbed 5 times in 2 years. The last time he pulled out a gun, started shooting, and I killed him. I moved back into the country again since then.
i had a brand new house i dropped another 100k . this is the poorest county in California . i moved there because a new house price was not insane . i sold and took a 100k lose easy just to get out . moved to a small town in farm country bought my hopuse cash and never been happier .
Yeah, something’s telling me you never killed a guy who pulled a gun on you 😂
@@philmickelsonscalves7585 - My son was shot 3 times and my friend who is like a father to me was shot in the mouth. Please shut your hole because you don’t know what you’re saying.
A town with 9k people and very small wealth gap will have statistically less crime than a city with 2 million.
All I heard is I grew up around a bunch of land owners in a stolen country. Look up how much land had been stolen from black people in the last century. Also how black farmers have been discriminated against. I don’t buy all that I’m poor shit either, you got some money or assets somewhere.
It's easy to tell who's losing a debate. It's always the person yelling over everyone else
Unless you listen to Calm ignorance ..
Actually, that’s wrong. Roland does have an annoying penchant for yelling and interrupting, but that in itself doesn’t make him wrong. The truth can be stated in an outdoor as well as an indoor voice. 😉
Or maybe it's called frustration because you know that the person that your telling the fact's to is full of s*** and they know the information you know it's true but it's not good for their podcast ratings so they mislead with a bunch of like this Middle Eastern whatever the f*** this guy's from is doing
That doesn't make him wrong, him being completely wrong makes him wrong lol
He's either delusional or he's a grifter. Very few people actually believe the lies he's spouting
@@workrelated272 what evidence?
My blood pressure actually went up 20 points watching this. I measured it. PBD has patience of a saint.
Haha, smart watches and pamdemacondriacs. I resemble that.
No, his ideas were challenged and his eco chamber nonexistent. As a result, he couldn't keep up.😂😂 Do yourself a favor and get rid of the fake dp😂😂.
He got BURNED just like everyone who refuses to believe the truth instead of the lies republicans have told you.
It's natural especially if you're talking to people like that
Yeah mine went up too! A lot of what PBD said was pretty stupid. He basically denied redlining and housing appraisal discrimination which has been proven time again and then continued to spew a bunch of right winged talking points
At 13:30 I'm in a mixed relationship and my house was stripped before we started showing due to what my realtor "explained" to us In El Paso, Texas. So chalk that up to maybe the realtors have seen this.
"Your mom said it." 😂😂😂 This guy will find any excuse to win an argument.
PBD lost this debate. BIGLY. I'm surprised he even made it public.
No one is oppressed
@@vintagesavoiur Say what?
@@AntiSHITPACBOOM3100% I'm surprised he put this up.
@@boarderwild Agreed. I'm equally surprised that Roland never called attention to it on his channel. He's got major bragging rights for flattening PBD on PBD's home turf.
Dude just completely sheds any responsibility for anything. He's never wrong lol
Niether is pat the answer is in the middle
@@TexxVlogz Pat would probably agree with you there. Roland Martin is living in a different reality
He conducts his podcast in the same way. It's mostly about pretend victimhood.
@@RSSpeacemaker As are he and most White Americans are also living in their own clueless world!!! They have all the answers to problems they have no idea about!!
SO EXPOSING THE RACIST SYSTEM AND THE FACT THAT THEY WONT PAY REPARATIONS ETC AND AMERICANS ANTI BLACK ENTIRE HISTORY IS NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.. LOL
I am not a victim, and I distance myself from anyone that does not align with my goals
You are correct. But the goals of democratic party is to enable more poverty to those who lack ambition. And thats like a virus that constantly grows.
That makes you miles ahead of your peers. People will want to work with and for you and also mentor you to be a real BOSS
100000%
I agree. It’s getting to the point that I am tired of hearing the victims crying and asking for the help of others. When at the end of the day only you can help yourself.
The victimization is getting old and I no longer associate myself with those kind of people. I no longer have the energy to want to aid them because it leads no where.
Arabs are racist af
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU EVEN GIVE A PLATFORM TO SOMEONE SO DISRESPECTFUL 😢
How a man so disrespectful and delusional has even a penny to his name is a testament to the quality of his audience.
I don’t agree with him fully but what you saw was raw pain. He wasn’t 100% wrong. Please be careful not to label his audience with a broad paint brush.
@@hendersonjohnson3750he was 100% wrong
@@boyeatsworld-vr9cidon’t agree with his style but he was not 100 percent wrong. Until we look at the substance is what he’s saying it’s easy to write him off. He not 100 percent wrong. And this comes from a black conservative who grew up in similar circumstances.
What a victim you are. Victimhood and willfull ignorance is the cause of all the problems in the world. Pat yourself on the back coward.
black victimization pays very well .
This guy is super emotional. This is a great example of why you should not become emotional during a debate.
That's the only way leftists debate, on emotions not facts
This guy is an example of the reason why the black community is where it is
Thinking emotionally instead of rationally is a big part of why the west is declining.
@@ejohnson526 unfortunately you are true about a portion of the black community.
Grifters like Roland also know this and use this to their benefit.
For example… Roland talked about “white” flight. While he also got upset about being told to stay and build the community.
Had the nerve to get offended and asked why he himself couldn’t ALSO leave a community that is showing signs of decline.
@@ejohnson526 the blk community is where it is because of racism and oppression. I guess you never heard of redlining?
Man, witnessing mental gymnastics some people have to do to be right all the time is astounding.
How so? He literally was schooling Patrick
@@moss830 agreed, it seems like pat (like most people in these arguments) simply lacked perspective that rolan was providing. pat kept rejecting it instead of allowing himself to be enlightened because it wasn’t what fits his narrative (which also happens most of the time)
Give an example of what Roland said that you involved mental gymnastics
@@moss830 tell me you have a low iq without saying you have a low iq....
You end this debate with a single question. Why are black people living in black countries still broke AF?
PBD is from the Middle East and asking why did Black People move! He needs a restart at that refugee camp! 👎🏾👎🏾
I'm glad you're putting these guys on. They are exposing themselves to a large group of people that would not ever hear them speak.
I was thinking the same. PBD is really showing how weak these people's arguments are and how baseless they all are... or how twisted their own beliefs are, bending over backwards contradicting themselves with everything.
PBD was lost in this argument.
@@NigelOdinson after intense research PBD and many conservative podcast are paying bot accounts to post positivity on their own videos, exactly what you're doing.
@@sophon238 I mean I can imagine he was when you have someone shouting, screaming, making non sense what about isms and changing the topic every 30secs
@@NigelOdinson🤷🏻♂️
Well he embarrassed himself pretty well
Dude doesn't know what embarrassing even means.
He got emotional like a woman. His beta male audience eats that stuff up.
@@karlstrauss2330 makes sense 😂
Yea Pat did
@@sankaratrucking5255 are you crying 😥 R n ?
Roland's anger and confusion is adorable.
liberal teddy bears cute but still super wrong
He so cute I wanna pinch his chubby cheeks
@@ironpandaloco dangerous is what l was thinking,people like manipulate others into getting violent like the Doctor that was ran over then stabbed to death while the guy was yelling white privilege
You misspelled deplorable lol
They brothers couldn't even bring out a point or any fact
He presents the difference in housing appraisals but fails to provide any details that could explain the factors influencing the appraisal values . Saying its because of racism is not a strong enough argument.