"You See Yourself As a Victim!" - Heated CRT Debate with Roland Martin
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2023
- In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David, Roland Martin and Vincent Oshana discuss systemic racism in the US.
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Never try to convince someone who is already committed to misunderstanding you.
He's part of the problem in my opinion...
@@joesalerno_emotion5055 People like PBD don’t like hearing facts
@@MrGabayo Thats weird. he was the only one stating them
PBD is the epitome of cognitive dissonance.
@@wynndarring Said the pot to the kettle apparently.
This was actually painful to watch. Racism will never go away because there's too many grifters that make money on it
Buzzword champion of February
Best comment on the whole section. Point being, we need to stop wasting our time trying to cater to them.
Just because you can’t understand what systemic racism is doesn’t mean it isn’t there. I love Patrick but he’s wrong here.
It doesn’t exist
@@jacob.forrest_ No.
It’s tough to solve a problem when you’re profiting from it 🙄
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And the immigrants come here with this attitude !!
Understand us allowing you to come to America was a form of reparations 😂❤🎉😢😮😅😊
The only reason they come here is because American was advanced 400 years through slave labor then wanted to replace the slaves labor with immigrants under stand that human capital is the only real money esp since their is no gold standard!
Stupidity is not a crime you free to go
😂 oh my😂
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
😂🤣
This man is ignorantly articulate.
@@victoracevedo1078 He was like "let me articulate these lies." xD
Roland isn’t stupid, but he could work on his rhetoric when debating in a hostile environment.
So when do we become accountable for our own actions?! Why the hell is it everyone else's problem to just do the right thing. It's simply about being a decent human being. Defunding the police is a non-issue. We have to have cops to prevent idiots from doing idiotic things---aka crime, breaking the law
He's not listening, he's just waiting for his chance to speak.
The Host!!
Honestly they both are
@@JamesBond-ro6by Pete's not hearing this because it's not affecting him or his ppl.
@@TheKiddOnDrumsyou might be the only unbiased person here.
Roland is not waiting to say his stuff. He is not listening to a thing Patrick!
If victimhood was a person 😂
Yeah, and they will look just like trump and his trumpturd supporters.
You in America eating off what Black Americans built, that’s the funny part. Your people couldn’t cut it in their homeland
What's worse than a FOOL...? An old FOOL.😢
I don't think I've ever seen delusion manifest stronger than in this guy.
You mean PBD? All he's doing is trying to shut down a nuanced discussion that would dismantle all the BS he's trying to support.
@azmohammed83 You are the reason why people like that guy are relevant today. In any other country, not even his moma would be supporting the lvl of gaslighting and BS that guy is spewing.
@klauser10 It's not gaslighting. It's documented history and also my lived experience. You're exactly why POS's like DeSantis wants to ban classes I teach and discussions about my lineage history in this country. Keep people's heads in the sand about what's happening to people different from them.
@@klauser10dude he’s black we wouldn’t understand 🤣
I grew up with a black best friend in southern california. His parents both worked for los Angeles city. We lived in san bernardino county. The school we went to was 95+% mexican.
When we tried as early teens to go find jobs together in a booming area in the valley. Getting a low skill entry level low wage job was damn near impossible. We lived in a city called Chino in California, tons of new shops, buildings, shopping centers, etc. why would you hire a 14 year old part time when you can hire a 30 year old who is willing to do the job?
Now knowing that population negatively effects opportunity and my friend and I clearly saw it growing up in southern california.
Why in the flying fucking hell would you vote for a democrat who will flood your area with illegal immigrants?
Illegal immigrants don’t effect my labor rate now because it is skilled labor. In 45 years low wage buying power has not gone up at all and it directly correlates with our border policies. Just like slaves 100 years ago, cheap and free labor only benefits the rich democrats. And its 100% the truth.
The greatest trick the devil ever did was convince us he didn’t exist. The greatest trick the democrats will ever do is convince black people that replacing them with people from south of the border is in their favor.
How many black successful land scaping companies do you see? Now look at all the successful black owner operators truck drivers since it requires multiple licensing, insurances, etc. so don’t tell me I’m wrong.
So the only way it is, is black people themselves have pushed poor black people so far away from success its insane.
I’ve never seem someone so committed to victimhood
Its his entire personality. His proof is conspiracy theories like white flight and modern red lining.
Bingo
He's trying to pull a Jedi mind trick. Ignore your eyes, the Democrats are the ones for more police funding. What a charlatan.
yawn. wake up
@@baconation2637 ah yes because redlining is illegal that means it doesn’t happen anymore. That’s a good one!
He keeps interrupting and changing the subject then doesn’t want to be interrupted.
Rolan Martín was one who leaked cnn town hall questions to donna brazile who then leaked them to Hillary Clinton. That’s the type of person PBD was dealing with 😂😂😂
Leaked questions to a third party, who then leaked them to someone else? The crime?
WOW he’s def discredited after knowing that
RM's Tongue is digging his OWN demise!😮😮😮
@@empressX-yr4ubTrump lost. Get over it.
That’s a lie.
This dude has a knack for being asked a question and turning that into a rant about something completely different
He wanted to push an agenda!
Typical narcissistic behavior
Roland's answer to every question is "Slavery and Jim Crow!"
@@StreetFighter2010 The only slave I ever knew deeply was my father as he was "drafted" conscripted aka enslaved to serve. And I have no idea who "Jim Crow" is, I think it is not even a real person, right? Just media talking point, right?
You all are wrong he is trying to answer the question and give you the history of why it is the way it is or the backstory of why communities are very violent communities just don't become violent because of no reason he was saying because of the area economic status the housing people being bunch and live on top of each other like of education health care welfare jobs and everything which he was trying to get a backstory to as to why
The patience this man showed with this dude is beyond amazing.
Agreed. Roland has the patience of a saint.
@@governorriffraff7601 I assume you're being sarcastic or you're obtuse.
@@governorriffraff7601Roland has the patience of a trained Marxist gatekeeper
@@workrelated272 No one but you even mentioned "goalpost" which shows you can't even understand something you read with your own eyes without hallucinating your own meaning to it. Roland interrupts every time his argument is destroyed. He tries to intentionally misunderstand everything that's being said because he can't defend his position which just makes him look stupid.
You so right man thinks opinions are facts 💀
Your home is worth how much somebody will pay, and depends on the neighborhood.
The same house in a bad neighborhood is worth less than in a good neighborhood.
He literally said the value was different based off if a white or black family was in it and he said “that’s just one story” so you acknowledge and dismiss the truth
@@justinmathis7707
If you ever bought a house or apartment you know, that the bank that is doing the valuation, is looking not at who is the owner, but at what was the price of similar house in the neighborhood in the last 6 months.
Bank appraiser takes three to five similar houses sold in last 6 month and gives his result to the bank for the loan approval for the buyer.
You can go yourself on the internet and find out how much was asked, how much was paid for real estate in the neighborhood.
If you want to play in the "victim Olympics" than it will never ever be enough.
He said he would love to see it,roland said do you want to see it no I don't want to see 😂
It’s always soooo much easier to blame someone else than accept responsibility yourself
Responsibility for what ? when someone appraises your home for less than what it’s worth simply bc of your background !
@@maniaclatdiscipleExactly…People have preconceptions and then they look for things to support those preconceived notions.. Just like David..When faced with facts he calls it spinning.. He’s not very bright… I cannot believe this guy is a millionaire..
@@maniaclatdisciplebecause of the area. Who tf would want to buy a house in Chiraq😂😂😂
@@FOE-LEKA it’s not the area, studies show that a black person home will be appraised lower compared to a white person home in the same neighborhood
It’s easier to say “Its all on you” than to actually help someone as well.
It’s extremely hard to have a conversation with an arrogant emotional person like Roland he’s never wrong
Or in this case always wrong but think they’re not 😂
I agree, PBD is impossible sometimes.
@@renzo5282 How did I know? Every single time, low IQ
Lol nailed it
@@renzo5282
He didn't pull up any facts or statistics. Just talking out the side of his .... this egotistical douche says why did you move away? Take your ... back to your country and help your people then since telling Roland to.
I seen that discussion between Roland Martin and a couple of black conservatives and he didn’t destroy any of them whenever they would speak up to prove him wrong and had valid points. He would do like he’s doing right now just violently scream and talk over them anytime they had to make a point, let them respond because he was so afraid of being exposed
He's self admitted to never being wrong. which probably means he's wrong all the time
The funny part about this is he keeps talking about Jim Crow which only affected the south but the crime PBD is talking about city’s that are not all in the south and was never affected by Jim Crow
A professional victim will always have cognitive dissonance when you threaten their grift.
Roland says he hates Jim Crow, the Kkk, and slavery but he’s still a democrat.
Hole in one.👍🏻
Bingo!💯👍
👌 perfect
What’s his excuse for places like Sweden who now have the highest crime rate in Europe..they have never had zoning laws or segregation yet the same problems persist there
It’s so annoying when you’re in an argument with someone that constantly interrupts you when you’re trying to get your point across.
I’m finally done. This was the last time I’m watching an interview with PBD as host. I can’t STAND the interruptions and cross talking!!
PBD is well-known for this.
If you're going to keep throwing red herrings to derail the argument, then you aren't being interrupted. You're being held to account.
I think lies should be interrupted. When the host lied or didn’t have info or wasn’t winning solely based on his lack of facts - then he made dumb claims
You must haven’t watch the Roland Martin show. He not only interrupt people but won’t let them talk. I just had to unsubscribe because it gotten to a point that he also is annoying too. I totally agree with you but Roland is worst and promise he his.
Always the underlying causes, and they NEVER address the underlying causes. Many blessings to you and yours.
This is basic information, nobody can control your own actions.
He knows deep down what the real problem is. Just another Hustler
Exactly! He went to college just to become a grifter.
Absolutely. At night you know this dude is thinking ‘man, most of my black brothers and sisters are lazy’. Most. Not all. MOST.
@@coypu2005sucks that it’s true
Some of the wealthiest people I’ve met in my life you never went to college and some of the poorest people I know when to college and we’re so bogged down by student loans and locked into a certain career. College is not a bad thing, but it’s not the end all be all. This guy has a narrow minded, ridiculous mindset. Gosh Patrick has seen like patience
I lasted about 5 minutes. This kinda stupid is impossible for me to listen to
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear foolish than to open it and remove all doubt.”
Wow, great original quote. I've never seen that posted before.. 🤤
Man I'd rather not appear foolish unless otherwise I would. But this guy there are many more black americans that think like him and project that they project that onto others and even go to other countries so called Passport Bros when they travel for prostitutes they lie and say they travel to find submissive traditional women but it's a lie it's for more affordable dollar to peso ratio prostitutes, I swear 90%+ of them make videos about this country is racist whenever the experienced they carefully curated in their mind about being in the country does not go how they imagined it would go 😂 when that happens they make a youtube video ohh how is it being black in country "x" do women from "x" country like black men, "x" is racist, they even start talking about these countries and the history that they make up as if they know the country and or culture more than the people from these countries themselves, they even begin to say that the so called afro latinos (Hispanics do not seperate themselves by color that is an Black American projection) are not treated well in their countries and that so called "afro latinos" are oppressed in these Latin Countries as well and not even that, so Black Americans can feel better about themselves they would go to the extreme with fairytale about how the "afro latinos" are oppressed much much worse in these countries, that they have no power, that they are no one in their countries, that they have no representation etc etc. This mentality is also trying to be projected in Latin America for example especially by so called passport bros!!
Surely a white guy trying to teach black people what their life's about.
Don't cast pearls to pigs
Love that!!!!
24:28 Bruh the video part was hilarious!!
You're wrong !! lmao 😂
It’s not individual responsibility, blame ‘history’…
This was the hardest video that I’ve had to listen to in a very long time. He was 100% unwilling to receive anything that was outside his own paradigm of thinking
Martin deserves Pakman.
PBD? I know, he even completely overlooked the statistical facts in favor of his own opinions..
I have to give you credit brother I can't take more that a couple of minutes that "A Black Conservative Perspective" shared. I'm good!
I can’t believe I made it through without tossing my phone at the wall
You must be speaking of PBD.
This guy is the definition of "yell your point, and if they don't agree with you it's because you're not YELLING LOUD ENOUGH"
Or, if you disagree with me at all I'll just roll my eyes and throw my hands in the air ...Rollen Martin is a race hustler....and it is super cringe..
Victim mentality.
We should all bow down, because everyone born right now is obviously an ex slave owner and it's all our fault.
I'm burying my whip as we speak
Sorry, but Patrick was doing the same thing on this one ... ego's were flying!
Does racism exist?
@@almontgomery4962 in the minds of people who believe race matters
I got the HBCU connect... from trumps 10 year plan😅😅😅
I’m an independent black voter who leans right. I am not a Democrat. However, I agree with Roland Martin on America’s systemic racism in the housing market. Since the inception of this nation. I also agree with PBD on how the Democrats have exploited and taken for granted the black vote due to failed policies.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair
Both of them are just using word salad 🥗
Well said
Fantastic Quote.
@@canibus1985 prove what ever martin said was false. i'll wait.
@@imskinnehow is it racism when the hoods where gangs are ?
"Raising your voice doesn't validate your argument" this entire temper tantrum was summarized right there.
Anyone debating Roland MUST INSIST ON A MODERATOR just for their own sanity.
This conversation gave me a headache trying to listen to. The constant talking over each other was at another level.
But facts doo and allowing an iranian immigrant and welfare king to tell u how to live ur life is sad boomers.
You can’t argue with stupid, you’ll end up stooping to that level
*common mistakes*
VICTIM VS VICTOR
When people shout to make thier arguments, they’ve lost.
20 minutes in and I haven't heard Roland say how he's going to fix the appraisal issue
Finished the video and PBD, didn't even acknowledge that it occurred. Didn't acknowledge the impact that it could have.
"Raising your voice doesn't validate your argument." Well said Patrick, in response to Roland.
Patrick is full of it.
Roland is correct in his home value example. The reduces the home owners ability to tap their equity.
The solution is to stump out unequal treatment.
Then people must earn their outcomes.
@@extremeresponsibility4325 their homes are less valuable when they're in the hood.
Patrick is full of wisdom and maturity.
@@tyy5557 so are you clown
“Because I’m louder I’m winning an arguement” guy. SMH. Pat, you deserve an award for dealing with this guy.
He has facts bro, stop being a fanboy.
@@isiahjones9646 No he only yells louder.
@@thepamela050 Read the stats and look at the facts. All that Roland mentioned were facts. Defund the police was taken out of context and used for political drama. Just like the name Black Lives matter. Even the meaning of CRT and the word WOKE which is so frequently used for the wrong reasons. Anti-Crt,BLM,Woke,Defund the Police are being used as tools to race bait and scare people into submission. It's seems to be working too.
He argues like a woman.
Sorry buddy, he may have been louder but he came with facts, some of which may be inconvenient for your POV.
Where's the receipts? Back up means cover your ass. People who interrupt and raise their voice are 100% of the time not being truthful
Laziness. Most criminals want big money for minimum effort.
....including bankers, senators, and congressmen.
Yes that’s white America and it’s government stealing from countries all over the world 🤷🏾♂️
Lack of FATHERS plays the biggest role in criminal activity especially in young people
100% regardless of the color of your skin
As well as poverty
@iggyg1370 a two parent working family goes a lot further to prevent poverty than a single mom. I was a single mom for 11 years before I married 36 years ago. My daughter was fortunate to have uncles and a grandfather to be amazing role models before I met my husband. I was a single mom and a working nurse. I retired after 40 years. Close daily in home fathers figures really do help. Guidance and role models matter. Sadly, Far too many kids don't have that
At some point you must know right from wrong and choose to do the right thing.
Poverty is the #1 reason
Gets asked a question, doesn't like it. Then, argues another point. Confusion is the weapon of the beast
Democrats do that
This is how you know he was raised by a single Melanated Black woman. He gets it from her.
Then after he spins it and argues another point, nobody else can respond, and when they do respond he doesn’t even listen for their entire response before he interrupts, spins it again, then again argues a different point. He’s not trying to listen to what anybody else is actually saying and he doesn’t let anybody else participate. He can’t shut his cocksucker for more than 6 seconds and listen to anyone else’s opinion. He is absolutely ridiculous
In terms of criminals, just spoke to someone who said he'd rather do 5 years in a Democrat run prison than one in a Republican run prison. He said it made him not want to commit crime anymore. Now he's a business owner
Prisons aren't partisan.
Somebody needs to make a full video exposing Roland Martin
The guy from Iran telling the black guy to stay in the community and change it is the most hilarious thing ever
well said lol
I said the exact same thing
exactly
In other words the IRAN "WHITE GUY" from another country is telling the BLACK GUY from America who goes through these issues on a daily basis an can't hide his SKIN color or nationality to stay an make a change in these CORRUPT OVER POLICE an impoverished community..PRICELESS 😂😂😂
PBD is a smart guy, but this is the first time I have seen him totally miss the point. He is too into his own world view.
Like nails on a chalkboard. It's so hard to pull someone away from ignorance when the alternative is self accountability.
Yes, sir this is so true. I'm sick Of hearing him talk.
Yup PBD is worse than nails on the chalkboard
That's why it's important to get more than one opinion on EVERY major decision. EXCUSES HOLD PEOPLE BACK.
Appraisals are based on sq ft and condition of the structure. He's out on Jupiter on this.
If you know about price, it is based on the community what was solid in that area….
When someone confuses you over and over instead of answering a question and then says it’s clear , he’s obviously lying.
Funny how before 2016 most people here in the U.S. we're politically dumb. We used to fall asleep on Cspan,even skipped over the political pages in the newspapers for Sports and Entertainment. A rude awakening has come to pass. We see it everyday now in how we treat each other. This interview was a disaster because no one wanted to listen. Like in a competition the audience found the heated exchange more entertaining.
Funny coming from someone who does not see or hear Jesus but he is clearly with you. It's CLEAR. Isn't it? (They'll probably remove this comment as they have done others... Bunch of hypocrites).
This guy white people saved him from hell so he see them as God's so he would kiss ass .
true is easy to understrand truth is straightforward. When someone has to take an hour to explain to you that how donald trump handled a document was some hhow a crime, or there was some fake elector sceme that no one can explain how something so rediculous would have even worked. its all lies.
I just dont get why anyone has this guy on shows for debates. Its such a waste of everyones time every time. Hes been debunked and beaten a ton of times already and yet he never budges on his views. JP for instance made him sound dumb and owens did a decent job too
Victimhood mentality makes me sick to my stomach....Human frailty at its most disgusting.
LOL housing appraisers are responsible for all inequality and the failures of demcrats.
Try having one for a baby mom! Worse mistake of my life!
Its currency in you all believing that blacks are..it make you all feel like you are human instead of Instead of the INHUMANE SAVAGES YOU PEOPLE ARE…you have no clue of the actions of your devil ancestry…you all will have your DAY
He ain’t no victim he from Texas he grew up in a republican state he didn’t grow up in a democratic state he acting
I grew up in a Democratic state and shit was crazy I might be traumatized!just had to move to a republican state and life was better!
Love your podcast.
Why do you spend time with a wrong and strong person? You know what comes with that? Stress and blindness….
"Roland, how are you rich?"
His brain almost melted. 😂Then he proceeded to explain benefits of 2-parent families and education 🤔
Did he hurt your feelings?
Great comment! Check out the AI BOTS or Antifa BLM cultists posts, it is literally SJW tears
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
hes not arrogant and he clearly explains the reasons why he was able to get rich while others were not. having a stable 2 parent household is a big factor that i think both liberals and conservatives can agree with, and having access to good public education which he admits affects his community
Not to mention school choice which dems against and rep for. He racist and accidentally says rep points help ppl and he is for them but fights for the dems. So disconnected from reality and promotes victimhood. He is why ppl failing in this country
You can’t have a debate when you have to educate the person your debating with simultaneously
So true. Especially when who you seek to educate is unwilling to listen or learn...
Dr Clarke once said I only debate my equals and I teach the rest.
Especially when the person victimizes themselves. But it is so easy to say there’s nothing they can do except fight the system. Unfortunately for him many black Americans succeeded and prove that he’s wrong when he talks about systemic racism. There is always racism and we are a lot to have suffered from it, but it’s not something that will prevent us from striving and flourishing.
@@Cbon-xh3ry one is never wrong for mentioning systemic racism. It’s always been here woven in this Americas. Desantis is showing u how to be systematic and to focus on one group or more to divide us all. Hitler used systemic methods to destroy people. We need to tell it line it is. It’s a drain on society and we will never be whole because we keep acting like it’s not a problem.
@@reggied1811 you just proved how ignorant you are by mentioning nazism and DeSantis in the same sentence. You clearly don’t know history and you are just offending me as a Jewish and African guy. All my black friends will vote for DeSantis again and again. Stop trying to use the supposedly systemic racism, that existed in the past but doesn’t anymore, to get privileges and work your ass off.
You cant argue with stupid prejudiced people.They just bring you down to their level
ITS A CHOICE!!! NO ONE FORCES ANYBODY TO BE A CRIMINAL. EVEN GANGS GIVE YOU A CHOICE.
I actually feel sorry for the people he claims to support and protect.
It amazes me how white supremacists thinks racism in America is because black people talk about it all the time
Roland is & always have been a uneducated one man clown show... they've dumbed down their show by having these type of uneducated people on. He's a performer. Plenty of other educated blk people they could have on.
He who? The host? He's an insane man.
Did you hear what he was saying, bro? I'm in New Zealand, and everything he said I've seen on the web, and when I look, I make sure 5 points of few for 1 question!
Bro, if you don't get what the point?(understand)
This guy only hears himself speak and he loves it.
No, no, no... now wait, now, now... no, no... hold on...
I heard the guest and thought he did a good job. Actually better then the underprepared host
@@nguday2003He did a good job at pushing a turd out while crying like a baby.
Yup.
The type to keep a closet packed full of jars of his own flatulence, shelved & organized like a spice rack based on what he’d eaten for each meal.
@@nguday2003 His answer to "How did you get rich?" was I'm not arrogant enough to not understand that people have different situations. You just hear some buzzwords that go with your personal rhetoric and get completely tricked by verbal diarrhea.
It's all about taking accountability. Decades of equality and yet people cant take race out of it. Some blame all their faults and failures on others, its about what is being taught to these kids, if they have a parent like this man they will grow up racist against anyone who doesnt look like them. Some people need racism to exist , so they can act like its the only reason they struggle.
A trumpeter 😂
It's easier to lie to someone than it is to convince someone they've been lied to.
I know what you’re saying but I just wanted to say okay mysterio LOL
I agree, this guy wouldn’t admit he had been lied to, he had NO answer for the facts Roland Martin was stating!!!
@@iamking5140Roland is the one that's been lied to.
It's easier to lie to someone than it is to get a liar to admit they're lying
@@patriarchmike Absolutely!!…it was obvious this guy didn’t wanna admit to the facts Roland was giving him!!!…U could tell by the expression on his face and by the responses he was giving that he had no rebuttal to what he was hearing!!!
"It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
To them that believe, no proof is necessary,
To those who don't believe,
No proof is possible....
What?
This is how you invite your opponent to whoop your behind on your own show.
EXACTLY 💯
😂😂😂
😂 black dude got his ass smacked, wtf you smoking?
Getting emotional & screaming is "whooping?" So 2 yr olds "whoop" all the time.
This guest was just loud & obnoxious, not very good at making... WHATEVER the point was he was trying to make. Not really sure what that was, because when asked to define it, he just jumped onto an entirely different subject.
This was a verbal, auditory assassination that nobody "won."
Jimmy here.
What this guy is saying is true!
I’ve been a Texas Realtor for 18 years, and I’ve seen this, I’ve also seen the Hispanic community steered to move to the north east of outside Houston city limits by targeting Latinos to buy undervalued land.
I believe that’s how “they” create zoning.
“You’re very good at interrupting” Roland, then proceeds to interrupt.
7:38
After spending all the video not letting Pat finish his thought
Roland looks like he could roll wright out the door 👍
Pat or whatever the Iranian turned "want to be a white man* name is was very rude. He was interrupting Mr Roland every chance he got. The problem is you racists whites not only don't care about the the facts that Roland was making and trying to present but y'all don't want to hear nothing if it doesn't fall in line with y'all agenda narratives or racist political views. Allah Jesus the devil and whoever else can come forth with the truth about the treatment of blacks along with the social and economic policies to their pale ssa faces...and will STILL find a way to say it's not true or come up with some BS logic about. Can't win with these people
"Your mom said it." 😂😂😂 This guy will find any excuse to win an argument.
PBD lost this debate. BIGLY. I'm surprised he even made it public.
No one is oppressed
@@vintagesavoiur Say what?
@@AntiSHITPACBOOM3100% I'm surprised he put this up.
@@boarderwild Agreed. I'm equally surprised that Roland never called attention to it on his channel. He's got major bragging rights for flattening PBD on PBD's home turf.
My son lived in Chicago. Never had a problem.
He name everything but the family unit.
This guy will fight against the truth with every ounce of his being
who??
Who? Roland obviously. He can't continue to make money if black people stop seeing themselves as victims
Roland became rich by manipulating poor angry ignorant Blacks. Making them pissed and keeping them on the Plantation is lucrative. Its called Race Hustling.
Bias on both sides some delusional on both sides
@kingkemet2527 nah the race baiter is the delusional one
He really think he is smarter then ronland 😂
He is unplugged. 😂😂
I came from Cuba a 3rd world country..born and raised in poverty..my parents taught me to be a good person despite our poverty..being a criminal was not acceptable in my household. Honestly, my father would have beat my ass.
Same here. Poverty has nothing to do with a good household that teaches wrong from right. Is a culture problem they refuse to acknowledge.
Exactly...same with Asians,, Filipino here...migrated here, been homeless with my small children but never came in my mind to tell them to do crime...like other ones I know who goes to grocery store to steal
@@esstong8064 when mom and dad say you become doctor or lawyer 24/7, and then when others saying you are victim 24/7. You are going to have big differences because of family culture.
@@RR_85 I'm not an expert in poverty or Cuba. I'm a self described dummy who thinks about this stuff from time to time with my little peanut brain. I'm in agreement that it is a culture problem whenever crime goes above standard deviation. However, I think it's a fair question to ask what socio-economic events led to the creation of the crime spike. I think maybe being denied the opportunities to thrive in a system for centuries may be a variable which leads those people who were denied to looking outside the system to attain success. Just a thought I have from time to time.
@@dafaq7561 Culture is a terribly big part of it. I’m Cuban as well and the vast majority of us appreciate the opportunities we have here so much. Committing crime in the average Cuban household is strictly punishable and the community hardly promotes getting into those activities. The Black community is a very different.
Only time Roland paused was when he told him he was a smart guy. He took a moment to bask in the complement 😄😄😄
That's bs
@@waynewhite2314 no thats facts suck it up baby cakes
ROLAND WAS SPOT ON AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE HIM.
And he was wrong. Roland is an absolute clown. That’s why he could not keep a job.
Constantly interrupting someone is a btich move from the fat guy.
Crazy to think crime is just who is the mayor! NEVER HEARD ANYONE GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF A DEMOCRAT LAW THAT CREATED EXCESS CRIME.... I will be waiting
A lot of words to say “Have a mom and dad…”
So what I learned is growing up in a supportive family leads to a more successful life.
This is the only thing of relevance or truth Roland inferred to in this whole interview
@@jamesfaison633incorrect. It is the only truth that your heart was able to receive but it DEFINITELY wasn’t the only truth Rolan spoke
You know you’re winning the debate when you’re angry and refuse to let the other side talk by talking over them
Seems as if both sides are winning the debate so far
Got him at 11:40 on why he moved away and didn’t stay!
Oh my lord …..this dude owned Martin …. I watched Roland Martin once literally got sick to my stomach how he twisted everything…… glad he wasn’t able to do this on this platform… and looks a little embarrassed at some of these questions. Nice job because I’m telling you this Roland Martin dude is the biggest. Divisive human being I’ve seen in sometime 💯
“How are you rich” damn got em.
Racism lol its his whole show
Roland is a race hustler, that’s how he made is money
Never seen someone be so not self aware talk with so much confidence
You should check out the antonio brown interview!
Dunning Kruger effect in full force here. Coupled with race grifting.
This. I've been to some IMPOVRISHED countries that still have very low crime rates, particularly violent crime. Cambodia, for example. This asshole is just making excuses.
I know PDB was completely out of touch and kept cutting Roland off
Wow PDB said "why did you move?" Why did PDB parents move? That was a crazy arrogant question. I don't know anyone who remains in an impoverished area it's called upward mobility for a reason.
Who would believe they are going to have a logical discussion with Roland Martin?
I agree people have to quit running away
Im from Texas i know aaaalot of country black folks with conservative values! Family Oriented!
Most Black people down there would be republicans if the GOP wasntt so racist.
The he party of family values. Yeah trump really represents this. The ppl In the south vote against their interests. They are fed a steady diet of fake patriotism, Christianity nationalism, fear mongering, divuson, culture wars etc.
The thought that you are never wrong is a very dangerous thing
Yea for pat this guy is unhinged
Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@Darkness380thoughts give birth to belief systems. This can ultimately move further on by creating unshakable realities for many of us. Howbeit, not one person is exactly the same. Similar struggles that overwhelm many, sometimes ignite and provoke others for the better.
However, there are far too many examples of those who have succeeded despite being considered the least likely to achieve anything. But the wrong thoughts can easily drive one insane or keep them going in circles until their very end.
Nonetheless, when change becomes a visible option it’s a beautiful sight to witness. However, those I cannot reason with, I choose to pray for, because we don’t always get to control the narrative as we’d like to. Yet, I’m convinced that the right seeds sown will come to harvest in its proper season.
Anyways, that’s my 2cents…
@@Darkness380 of course I battle with the possibility of being wrong about many things, especially in the area of faith.
Many seem to act like they don’t see the elephants in the room. That has always alarmed me. Because if others are capable of such behavior, who am I to think I could never fall victim to such actions. I know I’m not above being wrong, but in this life those who refuse to take risk usually do the least and achieve less.
Nonetheless, faith is personal. It varies from individual to individual and for me it has been the most helpful in navigating this journey we call life. It hasn’t been a bed of roses, but it’s provided me with a greater perspective and understanding about myself and others I had no clue was even possible.
Both can’t see that both parties don’t care about minorities
He grates my nerves. I made it 1/3 of the way through but had to turn him off.
Roland is not very smart lol. PBD being nice
He’s trying to win the argument as opposed to actually having an honest debate. He would never be able to admit he’s wrong even if he knew it.
What do you think the problem is with most Lefties? They can not admit when they are wrong. Look at what happened with Cov. All these people walking around fine but you still have people that would if the state said covs back,stay in your house and get another vaccine,they would do it.
😂😂😂😂
Which one😂
Patrick was getting annoyed by the facts😂
@@BlackRoyalty_This Ronald dude does make some good points. But he is also infested by the victim-mentality. Difficult to take him seriously. He is also rude. He sounds like a sassy BBW. My aunt is the same way but she is the white trash version.
Its hard to argue with someone that doesn't understand what the hell is going on.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Yeahh, Roland had too many contextual facts
Yeah those are Democrats they are all delusional.
@@ca_quixote RM has no facts just a victim mentality. Rm is a sad little man.
@@ronnyzain5962 define victim mentality based on the context of the conversation. Let's see if you're doing anything beyond invalidating someone's experiences. Suggesting we should all be reduced to robots who should move through life as if nothing is consequential, nothing is impacted by previous experiences and future decisions can't be improved by addressed the past.
Yes, please define the victim mentality expressed in this conversation. Please.
He can't handle the TRUTH. LOL
I've experienced real estate racism first-hand twice. My parents were lowballed on first appraisal on our $3M dollar home. We couldn't sell our mansion with our pictures and artwork in the house. We were severely low balled until the realtor suggested the harsh realities and we removed all effects that insinuated we were not caucasian. She now had her staff pose as husband and wife and the appraisal was $1M better. With that formula, we got 50-60k above asking almost immediately. its PATHETIC AND SAD. I GREW UP IN THAT BEAUTIFUL TOWN, TO BE REMINDED DURING TRUMP ERA I'M BLACK IN THAT FORM WAS AN EYE-OPENER. IT IS REAL.
How long did it take to dream that up?
Your oppressed living in a 3 million dollar home LOL
@@adamb84 my right to live was oppressed solely for the color of my skin. If I tell u how my town chat board went crazy with racial epithets and euphemisms for why we shouldn't have built our house or how we should leave while only breaking ground on construction. Or how they delayed construction almost a year because of obscure variances and fees they kept coming with. Police arresting workers on the house because they were Dominican, Mexican and Guatemalan citing 'stange ppl' in the neighborhood. Mind you they were only on my property quietly working. Don't hate me because we're successful and shatter what u EXPECT FOR ME. U DO BETTER
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience.” Mark Twain
So talking money away is not defunding? If you reallocate money from something, you are defunding it! They want to reallocate away from the police!
Dude definitely isn't stupid, he knew exactly what he was doing, he just isn't anywhere near as smart as PBD and his 💩didn't hold up.
Factual Facts that can't be challenge is historically is that home ownership has created more wealthy people than the average job. Stock ownership is another builder of wealth when invested long enough & consistently. Those 2 mention ownership above also depends on what I own .
As An Example: If I Own Swamp Land or Stock Ownership In A Failing Company or A Beautiful 4 Bedroom 3 1/2 Bathroom Home In High Crime Area; ALL EQUATES TO THE SAME THING (NO VALUE).
NOW ADD BLACK OWNER ON TOP OF THAT.
MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SPEECH TWO AMERICA'S SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THIS.
I WAS 50 YEARS OLD WHEN I HEARD THIS SPEECH, I PERSONALLY THINK THE REASON MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD THIS SPEECH IS BECAUSE OF THE FACTS SPOKEN IN IT.
QUESTION
WHAT MAKES A HOME OR PROPERTY BECOME MORE VALUABLE?
A) WHO OWNS IT.
B) WHO WANTS IT.
C) LOCATION OF IT.
D) COMMUNITY AROUND IT.
@@mattp4211 proof?
@Jason L Smart, in what capacity, he didn't counter with any factual data and was overly dismissive.
How can they not mention "FAMILY" when mentioning crime? The main reason for the current crime rate is the lack of a father in the family.
Yup democrats tricked them for the vote.
And why is that there's not alot of fathers in the home?
@@Tsheed1because of welfare. That replaced the father in the black household, and once the stigma was gone of being a single mother the women didn't care anymore. Before the end of segregation we had the highest percentage of married households and the lowest percentage of single mothers. We had to stick together because of our circumstances.
@mrdeebo313 Right! The welfare system was set up to take the men out of the homes work their families. So the system can raise the kids and be the systemic "Daddy" 🎯💯
YES! 💯
You can have multiple appraisals done on your home and they can be wildly apart.
It benefits the estate agents to sell your house for as high a price as possible because they get a percentage of the final price so you want me to believe they hate black people that much that they intentionally mark the property down by 150 thousand dollars
They wouldn't be in business long .
Here's the truth: There is a way that helps kids thrive and that's a fact. Married Father and Mother, no kids out of wedlock, work a job, and live within your means. The lack of willingness to say this and the loss of the church as the backbone is why the black community is in shambles. You have to tell them the truth and stop telling them they're dope because they black. It's dumb and ineffective. When we had the successful homes in the earlier part of the 20th century, our community was robust enough to thrive in the face of adversity. Many of the cultural things that people brag about were solidified and cultivated in those eras. Today, we are a shadow of our former cultural and societal genius. It's very sad.
“Can’t lose an argument if you yell and interrupt the whole time” is what Rolands publicist tells him
That’s just how black talk when we’re frustrated talking to someone intentionally being an idiot.
So dude isn't constantly interrupt a rolan
@@martelljhixson I am a black man. Rowland is an agitator who likes chaos and confusion. He does not speak for me on any matter concerning race. He does not seek solutions, only craziness.
@@bromack3 he doesn’t speak for you but what fact did he say that was wrong before he could finish his statement
This is Patrick's literal tactic in nearly every show, are you deaf?
Patrick interrupts because he cannot comprehend, Roland interrupts because Patrick is being corrected, these are not equivalent.
"If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet. "
- Proverbs 29:9
Exactly
Couldn't agree more.
Wow, you are on point with that scripture.
Couldn’t have said it better
Amen
It's crazy how he's so dramatic when he talks. To make it like his version is the truth and the other guy is the one who's lying or brainwashed.
Gotta talk like a pastor to fool those blacks
So he's basically saying houses in the hood sell cheaper
Dude is loud and insulting and right about everything aint he? 😂
Not at all.
@@mmtnews4192that’s the point, he’s not right. OP is making a sarcastic remark about dude on the right;
“oh the guy is Loud and obnoxious, that has to make him correct about everything he yells about right guys ??”
@@MegaJohn334 ok miss understood
Patrick is quiet and insulting and right about everything, ain't he? Unfortunately for Patrick, being quiet doesn't make you correct. He got owned, loudly! 😂
Imagine living next to him lol