You were so quick with uploading this OMG but finished listening to this entire thing after multiple days of coming back to it in segements and taking note of the time stamps i wanted to discuss! 😂 Thank you again for this!!! I look foward to seeing the video for Madison's dialouge next as you stated. I'd really like to see one for Scott Shelby eventually too because I've recently gone down a rabbit hole of Sam Douglas' entire filmography (I'll be posting a Tiktok related to it) so I'm interested to hear his unused takes as well (Again, spoiler warning ahead for anyone else that cares to read my entire super long comment) Firstly, I'd like to metion that the audio equalization was very well done on this video. I'm not sure if this is because you fixed that up yourself or because Pascal hadn't blown out the mic with any of his yelling segments like we mentioned Leon had on a lot of his takes (not hating, just an observation) 😂😂. Either way, it was easy to listen to this entire video with headphones on a high volume without a problem, even during the "Where's Shaun" ending scream I haven't yet completed the scene pack series on Ethan Mars so I may be wrong about some of my observations in certain chapters. Maybe I'll come back and edit this comment when necessary 😂 30:21 - This actually made me laugh out of how unusual it was to hear it 😂 I've never heard him say this but it's a great take that i wish they had left in. Also, I'm writing this after listening to the full video and the amount of times he says "son of a bitch" in this while never saying it in the actual game (that I've ever heard) is incredible 😂😂😂 39:07 - OMG is this really in the game files? a whole outake with David Cage giving direction? That's so fascinating, I love when you find stuff like this! 🤯 41:30 - Is this supposed to be dialogue of Ethan sliding down the pipe? The line before it is what he says right before getting inside of it so that's just what I assume but they definitely left it out of the game because this is way more over the top than he actually sounds (Although I'd probably scream like this too if I went down that pipe, can you imagine the fear of not knowing what's on the other side? 😭😭😱) 1:01:22 - I love the amount of times throuought this video he calls Shaun "little man" but he never says it in the final game except for the chapter "Father and Son" if you let Shaun fall asleep on the couch Ethan says it while picking Shaun up to carry him to his bed 😭 1:04:39 - I like how this seems to be an alternate dialogue where they were going to potentially use for the note reading and they ended up choosing Grace. I think I prefer the Ethan version more though. The line read is a bit better and the note itself is a lot less wordy for whatever reason 😂 1:07:35 - so you're telling me they had him record at least 12 takes saying "Jason" just for them to only put in 3 of them the final cut?!?! They did not have to do him like that! 😭😭 Also i swear there are better takes in there than what they chose to include so I have no idea what was the thought process behind that at QD 😂 1:07:48 - "take it easy, GRACE!" idk why but that made me laugh 🤣🤣🤣 1:15:30 - so glad they kept this one in, it's one of his funniest lines 😂 1:16:52 - Implication that this chapter was originally supposed to go on even longer after the blackout? 🤯 1:19:13 - I've recently played this chapter to its fullest extent and I have to say this was the only dialogue they did not keep in during the actual discussion choices. I wonder if it's because there's a slight slip-up in the accent when he says "better". However, the similar line, "he's a great kid you know. He deserves better" is kept in and I think that was a good choice 1:25:40 - omg this is so nice! why didn't they keep this dialogue!?? 🥺 I've been recording the scene pack for that chapter lately and I feel so bad having to purposefully fail all the activities to get the recording because they both get so sad. I almost felt like I was acting out of character for Ethan because the game allows you to act like that without giving Shaun any sort of explanation. I get that he's depressed and has no motivation/ energy to do anything but it's hard to watch especially whenever he ignores Shaun after disappointing him. In my opinion, they should have put this line in after failing everything so that Shaun doesn't feel too bad afterward at least 😅 1:32:28 - This has nothing to do with your video inparticular, but I feel like there's really no good option for what to tell Blake 😂I understand he's avoiding telling them the actual story, but out of all the choices they give you, every excuse makes Ethan either sound super suspicious or negligent of his child. I mean, his stories are literally, "I went home and/or walked away after he got on the carousel without even telling him where I was going. Then I was confused about why he didn't come home that night 🤷♂ I thought it was fine because he probably went off with his friends until after dark (knowing damn well Shaun doesn't have any friends btw😂) which is totally safe esspecially when there's a serial killer on the loose in our town that specifically targets boys in his age range 🤷♂" Then after all that he has the option to say "Shaun wouldn't go anywhere without telling his mother or me" which kind of contradicts what he had potentially already told them 😂 1:34:35 - I wonder if this take was from the version of the game that was going to be about Scott and Ethan having a telepathic connection where Ethan felt like he was being basically possessed by Scott to carry out the murders. I noticed throughout the length of this video that he repeatedly refers to everything as if he definitely did it ("did I put this box in the locker?" "what did I do to Shaun?" etc.) whereas in the game he genuinely doesn't know if it's him at first but gradually figures out that it's someone else feeding him the letters after each trial which is probably why he doesn't seem surprised to see Scott show up at the warehouse later. I'm rambling a lot sorry, I like discussing this game if you can't tell😅 1:39:04 - "these friggin' lockers are all the same"😂 I've never heard him say that but the American accent is especially accurate in that line 😂👌 1:41:44 - Another great take that went unused ☹ once again, I would've been saying the same if I had to do that bear trail 😂 I'm still amazed that he never had a head-on collision with another vehicle💀 1:53:44 - I really don't remember him saying this when approaching the body (Susan Bowles' husband as speculated by the HR fandom) I've only seen Ethan turn away without acknowledging it (and I don't understand how because I would freak out and get nauseous if I saw that 🤢) but I'll have to see about his thoughts when I do the chapter scene pack 🧐
Thank you!!! I love your long comments (though don't feel like you have to do them or anything!) I've just finished with Madison's, and Scott is next unless I do Blake really quick so I can use him in the AI. He doesn't have a ton of lines though so he'd be pretty fast (though I think he has quite a few more than made it into the game.) Also I'd love to take credit for the audio equalizing but I think I only lowered the gain on a few clips here and there; overall I think Pascal just did a better job recording things evenly lol. Lol I didn't even notice the one with Cage directing! I don't think I actually listened through all the general files all the way through. I think you can hear Cage in the background of one of Leon's takes though too. Yeah the cut pipe slide scream was one of the first files my friend found when looking through for cut content and we both laughed a lot at it; it's SO over the top but I also love it. YEAH that there were more Jason lines that didn't get used is so ridiculous, though I can't really be mad because it wouldn't be nearly as iconic of a meme otherwise. But still. There's a few blackout-related dialogues scattered about which I was really surprised to find were still in the game, even unused. It's so interesting to get little glimpses into what could've been/what was. And yeah, those lines at 1:34:35 indicate from their names that they're from Welcome, Norman but you definitely don't get any Ethan thoughts (and the comment about Shaun's body in the water is from a cut scene of course) so they definitely point toward being from the original supernatural plot, imo! And also that there might've been a longer playable segment as Ethan in that chapter. I think the 1:25:40 one happens only if you upset Shaun in Father and Son; I'm pretty sure I saw my friend get it because he was the worst father ever lol. It's a really sweet line though and I really like what it says for Ethan and Shaun in terms of their relationship and their willingness to be honest and admit mistakes. That unused line at 1:41:44 is one of my very favorites of all of them; the delivery is just so good!
thank you for your somewhat recent analysis series on this game. I've been a fan of Heavy Rain since the PS3 era and I love listening to discussions about it so I'll definitely be watching every episode on your guys' channel 👌
@@heavyrainchronicles21 thank you! We're currently working on similar series for Beyond: Two Souls and Detroit: Become Human, as well as a larger piece analyzing the recurring themes throughout all of the Quantic Dream games.
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I love imitating this when my girlfriend playfully bites me. It’s a funny thing between us now.
You were so quick with uploading this OMG but finished listening to this entire thing after multiple days of coming back to it in segements and taking note of the time stamps i wanted to discuss! 😂
Thank you again for this!!! I look foward to seeing the video for Madison's dialouge next as you stated. I'd really like to see one for Scott Shelby eventually too because I've recently gone down a rabbit hole of Sam Douglas' entire filmography (I'll be posting a Tiktok related to it) so I'm interested to hear his unused takes as well
(Again, spoiler warning ahead for anyone else that cares to read my entire super long comment)
Firstly, I'd like to metion that the audio equalization was very well done on this video. I'm not sure if this is because you fixed that up yourself or because Pascal hadn't blown out the mic with any of his yelling segments like we mentioned Leon had on a lot of his takes (not hating, just an observation) 😂😂. Either way, it was easy to listen to this entire video with headphones on a high volume without a problem, even during the "Where's Shaun" ending scream
I haven't yet completed the scene pack series on Ethan Mars so I may be wrong about some of my observations in certain chapters. Maybe I'll come back and edit this comment when necessary 😂
30:21 - This actually made me laugh out of how unusual it was to hear it 😂 I've never heard him say this but it's a great take that i wish they had left in. Also, I'm writing this after listening to the full video and the amount of times he says "son of a bitch" in this while never saying it in the actual game (that I've ever heard) is incredible 😂😂😂
39:07 - OMG is this really in the game files? a whole outake with David Cage giving direction? That's so fascinating, I love when you find stuff like this! 🤯
41:30 - Is this supposed to be dialogue of Ethan sliding down the pipe? The line before it is what he says right before getting inside of it so that's just what I assume but they definitely left it out of the game because this is way more over the top than he actually sounds (Although I'd probably scream like this too if I went down that pipe, can you imagine the fear of not knowing what's on the other side? 😭😭😱)
1:01:22 - I love the amount of times throuought this video he calls Shaun "little man" but he never says it in the final game except for the chapter "Father and Son" if you let Shaun fall asleep on the couch Ethan says it while picking Shaun up to carry him to his bed 😭
1:04:39 - I like how this seems to be an alternate dialogue where they were going to potentially use for the note reading and they ended up choosing Grace. I think I prefer the Ethan version more though. The line read is a bit better and the note itself is a lot less wordy for whatever reason 😂
1:07:35 - so you're telling me they had him record at least 12 takes saying "Jason" just for them to only put in 3 of them the final cut?!?! They did not have to do him like that! 😭😭 Also i swear there are better takes in there than what they chose to include so I have no idea what was the thought process behind that at QD 😂
1:07:48 - "take it easy, GRACE!" idk why but that made me laugh 🤣🤣🤣
1:15:30 - so glad they kept this one in, it's one of his funniest lines 😂
1:16:52 - Implication that this chapter was originally supposed to go on even longer after the blackout? 🤯
1:19:13 - I've recently played this chapter to its fullest extent and I have to say this was the only dialogue they did not keep in during the actual discussion choices. I wonder if it's because there's a slight slip-up in the accent when he says "better". However, the similar line, "he's a great kid you know. He deserves better" is kept in and I think that was a good choice
1:25:40 - omg this is so nice! why didn't they keep this dialogue!?? 🥺 I've been recording the scene pack for that chapter lately and I feel so bad having to purposefully fail all the activities to get the recording because they both get so sad. I almost felt like I was acting out of character for Ethan because the game allows you to act like that without giving Shaun any sort of explanation. I get that he's depressed and has no motivation/ energy to do anything but it's hard to watch especially whenever he ignores Shaun after disappointing him. In my opinion, they should have put this line in after failing everything so that Shaun doesn't feel too bad afterward at least 😅
1:32:28 - This has nothing to do with your video inparticular, but I feel like there's really no good option for what to tell Blake 😂I understand he's avoiding telling them the actual story, but out of all the choices they give you, every excuse makes Ethan either sound super suspicious or negligent of his child. I mean, his stories are literally, "I went home and/or walked away after he got on the carousel without even telling him where I was going. Then I was confused about why he didn't come home that night 🤷♂ I thought it was fine because he probably went off with his friends until after dark (knowing damn well Shaun doesn't have any friends btw😂) which is totally safe esspecially when there's a serial killer on the loose in our town that specifically targets boys in his age range 🤷♂"
Then after all that he has the option to say "Shaun wouldn't go anywhere without telling his mother or me" which kind of contradicts what he had potentially already told them 😂
1:34:35 - I wonder if this take was from the version of the game that was going to be about Scott and Ethan having a telepathic connection where Ethan felt like he was being basically possessed by Scott to carry out the murders. I noticed throughout the length of this video that he repeatedly refers to everything as if he definitely did it ("did I put this box in the locker?" "what did I do to Shaun?" etc.) whereas in the game he genuinely doesn't know if it's him at first but gradually figures out that it's someone else feeding him the letters after each trial which is probably why he doesn't seem surprised to see Scott show up at the warehouse later. I'm rambling a lot sorry, I like discussing this game if you can't tell😅
1:39:04 - "these friggin' lockers are all the same"😂 I've never heard him say that but the American accent is especially accurate in that line 😂👌
1:41:44 - Another great take that went unused ☹ once again, I would've been saying the same if I had to do that bear trail 😂 I'm still amazed that he never had a head-on collision with another vehicle💀
1:53:44 - I really don't remember him saying this when approaching the body (Susan Bowles' husband as speculated by the HR fandom) I've only seen Ethan turn away without acknowledging it (and I don't understand how because I would freak out and get nauseous if I saw that 🤢) but I'll have to see about his thoughts when I do the chapter scene pack 🧐
Thank you!!! I love your long comments (though don't feel like you have to do them or anything!) I've just finished with Madison's, and Scott is next unless I do Blake really quick so I can use him in the AI. He doesn't have a ton of lines though so he'd be pretty fast (though I think he has quite a few more than made it into the game.) Also I'd love to take credit for the audio equalizing but I think I only lowered the gain on a few clips here and there; overall I think Pascal just did a better job recording things evenly lol.
Lol I didn't even notice the one with Cage directing! I don't think I actually listened through all the general files all the way through. I think you can hear Cage in the background of one of Leon's takes though too.
Yeah the cut pipe slide scream was one of the first files my friend found when looking through for cut content and we both laughed a lot at it; it's SO over the top but I also love it.
YEAH that there were more Jason lines that didn't get used is so ridiculous, though I can't really be mad because it wouldn't be nearly as iconic of a meme otherwise. But still.
There's a few blackout-related dialogues scattered about which I was really surprised to find were still in the game, even unused. It's so interesting to get little glimpses into what could've been/what was. And yeah, those lines at 1:34:35 indicate from their names that they're from Welcome, Norman but you definitely don't get any Ethan thoughts (and the comment about Shaun's body in the water is from a cut scene of course) so they definitely point toward being from the original supernatural plot, imo! And also that there might've been a longer playable segment as Ethan in that chapter.
I think the 1:25:40 one happens only if you upset Shaun in Father and Son; I'm pretty sure I saw my friend get it because he was the worst father ever lol. It's a really sweet line though and I really like what it says for Ethan and Shaun in terms of their relationship and their willingness to be honest and admit mistakes.
That unused line at 1:41:44 is one of my very favorites of all of them; the delivery is just so good!
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You lied to me. I trusted you, and you used me. I will NEVER be able to trust you again. 😡
Wow. We're huge fans of Heavy Rain, this is great. Thank you!
Thanks! I just checked out your channel and I'm definitely gonna have to take a look at your HR videos.
thank you for your somewhat recent analysis series on this game. I've been a fan of Heavy Rain since the PS3 era and I love listening to discussions about it so I'll definitely be watching every episode on your guys' channel 👌
@@heavyrainchronicles21 thank you! We're currently working on similar series for Beyond: Two Souls and Detroit: Become Human, as well as a larger piece analyzing the recurring themes throughout all of the Quantic Dream games.