I just loved this episode. Truman really encapsulated how these women, despite their wealth, are all deep inside miserable, and unable to compromise themselves for a better good. Like Lee, who is always talking about becoming a designer and, when she gets one job, she just hates it because she can't cope with people telling her what to do. A truly answered pray was that!
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 jackie couldnt accept a normal middle class living !!!!!! she always wanted to live a jetset lifestyle i would have liked to have seen her fold and iron clothes she wouldnt even know basic skills!!!!
@IrishYobbo07 NO, I don't believe that. I think Slim Keith was a good mother. She was also stepmother to Haywards children with Margaret Sullavan. I think CZ Guest was a decent Mom too.
@@greeneyedwarlock882 As someone who has been written about thousands of times including by Truman the one thing that is consistantly said about her is her absolut self control no one has ever said they heard her raised her voice, not once, everything about her was about self discipline and control. Her granddaughter just wrote a piece stating that from the moment she was diagnosed with Cancer she never touch another cigarette. Sloppy drunk was so not Babe. This is a woman who plan her own funeral lunch down to the wine served and the china that should be used while she dying, not sloppy drunk behavior.
During the scene where Babe Paley told her husband about her terminal cancer diagnosis and wanting to tell the children, Bill called her out for being cold to her daughter.
They were horrible mothers Because in many ways they were like big children themselves. They simply did not know how to be good mothers. Babe was neglected emotionally by her husband for years and treated as nothing more than a Pritty object by him. she would rise early to apply her makeup and false teeth . Truman might have been correct by most standards they were awful mothers but His betrayal was also shitty as well these were emotionally fragile and insecure women . Lets be honest thow if most women could afford a housemaid to do there housework and a nurse maid to look after there kids MANY WOMEN would do it .
There's nothing wrong with having a nanny or a cleaner if I had the money I'd definitely have a cleaner for sure. I used to work as a nanny and I found the parents a mix of hands on and involved parents despite their jobs and parents who literally want their kids raised for them without doing any of the work involved.
My mom use to work for women like this. All their kids became drug addicts, patients in mental hospitals or were misable for the rest of their lives. They day I got a scholarship to go to Columbia, one comitted suicide.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 My mom was so proud of me!😁❤📘 The lady she worked for , her daughter was the one who died. My mom tried comforting her but she pushed her away. She was more angry that her black housekeeper's daughter got. a full scholarship into an Ivy League school! (That's what my mom told me) I felt so sorry for her
@sandrahood9529 Ooooo these ladies are so envious, I recommend reading a Jezebel piece on Jennifer Weiner's piece on J Lo on the Super Bowl because the White Insecurity of Karens, mmmmm
@@MegAplin Not my point, my point being is that I notice a commonality between Sandra's mom's boss and Weiner and the Mom's for Liberty types who say reading about Michelle Obama and her accomplishments would "make white girls feel bad". Like there is some dislike of women of color and ethnic women setting a standard or out-accomplishing the Karen’s daughters
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 They were taught to please men, not to care for kids (or anybody else). Money, men and glamour is what they were trained to care for by their own parents. I guess none of them had a great childhood themselves.
One word........BOOZE. I come from a family of alcoholics. Both of my dead parents were and both of my Brothers still are. I never touched a drop of it because of what I went through with my Mother and I went to 3.5 years of Al-Anon because of her. My Dad ran to grave at 63. When you're an Alcoholic, you NEVER stop being one, you just become one that DOESN'T DRINK. Or they call it "non-practicing"
Whats funny is i think these ladies grandchildren deny this claiming they were great grandparents! Like your parents would really tell you your rich grandparents were jerks?
Naomi is just phenomenal in this show. One of the best actresses of her generation for sure.
I just loved this episode. Truman really encapsulated how these women, despite their wealth, are all deep inside miserable, and unable to compromise themselves for a better good. Like Lee, who is always talking about becoming a designer and, when she gets one job, she just hates it because she can't cope with people telling her what to do. A truly answered pray was that!
She didn't have the stick-to-it-ive-ness of Jackie
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 jackie couldnt accept a normal middle class living !!!!!! she always wanted to live a jetset lifestyle i would have liked to have seen her fold and iron clothes she wouldnt even know basic skills!!!!
Not that she was technically a swan but Ann Woodward was probably the best Mum out of them all.
From what I've read about her being a mother, she was more concerned about her marriage than raising her sons.
@@alfredbonnabel7022 So they were all shitty Mums then.
@IrishYobbo07 NO, I don't believe that. I think Slim Keith was a good mother. She was also stepmother to Haywards children with Margaret Sullavan. I think CZ Guest was a decent Mom too.
Babe was never a fall down drunk, never!
Can't tell if it's alcohol or if she's panicking because it's all chaotic in her house
And you know that, for a fact, exactly how?
@@greeneyedwarlock882 As someone who has been written about thousands of times including by Truman the one thing that is consistantly said about her is her absolut self control no one has ever said they heard her raised her voice, not once, everything about her was about self discipline and control. Her granddaughter just wrote a piece stating that from the moment she was diagnosed with Cancer she never touch another cigarette. Sloppy drunk was so not Babe. This is a woman who plan her own funeral lunch down to the wine served and the china that should be used while she dying, not sloppy drunk behavior.
@@cross75man75I mean this this in the absolute most respectful way…..Babe was a different kind of woman 💯
He's a clown, not a buffoon. 😂
Idk y this made laugh so hard 😂
@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 I, did too!
Apparently, some don't know what a buffoon is....thanks for the good laugh. Buffoon...source of amusement..
During the scene where Babe Paley told her husband about her terminal cancer diagnosis and wanting to tell the children, Bill called her out for being cold to her daughter.
They were horrible mothers Because in many ways they were like big children themselves. They simply did not know how to be good mothers. Babe was neglected emotionally by her husband for years and treated as nothing more than a Pritty object by him. she would rise early to apply her makeup and false teeth . Truman might have been correct by most standards they were awful mothers but His betrayal was also shitty as well these were emotionally fragile and insecure women . Lets be honest thow if most women could afford a housemaid to do there housework and a nurse maid to look after there kids MANY WOMEN would do it .
There's nothing wrong with having a nanny or a cleaner if I had the money I'd definitely have a cleaner for sure. I used to work as a nanny and I found the parents a mix of hands on and involved parents despite their jobs and parents who literally want their kids raised for them without doing any of the work involved.
My mom use to work for women like this. All their kids became drug addicts, patients in mental hospitals or were misable for the rest of their lives. They day I got a scholarship to go to Columbia, one comitted suicide.
Wow. What did your Mom think?
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 My mom was so proud of me!😁❤📘 The lady she worked for , her daughter was the one who died. My mom tried comforting her but she pushed her away. She was more angry that her black housekeeper's daughter got. a full scholarship into an Ivy League school! (That's what my mom told me) I felt so sorry for her
@sandrahood9529 Ooooo these ladies are so envious, I recommend reading a Jezebel piece on Jennifer Weiner's piece on J Lo on the Super Bowl because the White Insecurity of Karens, mmmmm
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 The Swans are from a different era. JLo born in 1969, was a child then. Everyone loves JLo
@@MegAplin Not my point, my point being is that I notice a commonality between Sandra's mom's boss and Weiner and the Mom's for Liberty types who say reading about Michelle Obama and her accomplishments would "make white girls feel bad". Like there is some dislike of women of color and ethnic women setting a standard or out-accomplishing the Karen’s daughters
I feel for her daughter 😢😢i know the feeling. Twice abandoned both my mother's disowned me biological and adopted. It pained me so bad
Wait! There is more? Can we see more of them as moms?
They weren't really moms just photo opportunity/for promotion moms
@juliaalexander5788 I know but I feel there is more about their dysfunction
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 They were taught to please men, not to care for kids (or anybody else). Money, men and glamour is what they were trained to care for by their own parents. I guess none of them had a great childhood themselves.
Great scene...❤
Uh, oh. Ruined those Chanel shoes!
They got nothing on some the First Ladies of their time. It was their generation.
Why does the child have to carry the foxes....
Symbolism for how they see their kids
Thanks
That giant ass house and she has to send people home for quiet?
I get the feeling I understand why our society is so fucked up
We all fed by the belief that having kids guarantee joy, when the fact is, not everyone can be good parents.
@zitronentee Yeah and that children are seen as and treated as trophies
One word........BOOZE. I come from a family of alcoholics. Both of my dead parents were and both of my Brothers still are. I never touched a drop of it because of what I went through with my Mother and I went to 3.5 years of Al-Anon because of her. My Dad ran to grave at 63. When you're an Alcoholic, you NEVER stop being one, you just become one that DOESN'T DRINK. Or they call it "non-practicing"
Whats funny is i think these ladies grandchildren deny this claiming they were great grandparents! Like your parents would really tell you your rich grandparents were jerks?