Always loved Routh's Superman. With Man of Steel, if they'd dialed back Cavill's Superman about halfway in between Cavill's Superman and Routh's Superman, I believe they would've hit the reboot mark square on the head. Which they actually kinda did by the time Justice League came around.
@@Kncperseus I like to think that while he was taking in the radiation from the Sun, it was kind of giving him a boost (like in Injustice games where you have I think 3 layers of health). And while he went under ground and picked it up, his health was going really, really low (not to the point where he doesn’t have health, cuz if that was the case he would’ve died in space from not being able to breathe or from the impact when he fell from space to the ground in that park).
N M It was so subtle that it took me hearing it twice. Like what was the other time he went nuts and fought himsel- OOOOOOOHHH, right... Superman 3... admittedly kinda ballsy move to reference that one, but undeniably a clever nod.
@@masonpines6349 Subtle? Maybe. Totally moronic? ABSO-FREAKIN'-LUTELY. Everyone knew he was Reeve's Superman. So there's no "surprise" there. But the real "problem" is that Brandon Routh's Superman WAS NOT the one in Superman III, since that storyline was actually "deleted" from canon. So he's referencing something that didn't happened. SMH Nice work, CW... said no one. LOL
How did not one but TWO Supermen just allow Lex Luthor to sneak into a room holding a giant evil book? No super hearing, no X-ray vision, no super speeding out of the room when they immediately notice a big evil book
Also, sounds like he could do that brainwash shit all along, but judging by the dialogue, he chose option no. 42795153, kill superman one by one. Great plan.
I've said this same thing since Superman Returns first came out (and which I love with my whole heart because of how true to Reeves Superman it was). But man...the amount of backlash I got from it was INSANE! Like yikes...don't people have better things to do than attack fellow fans for absolutely nothing?
@@redraven24 I want to see him badly in DCEU now as supes from another universe... And in my opinion Routh looks more like a superman now than before because of that mature face and buffed up body
@@JarinXeno Wasn't Brandon "portraying" Christopher? I don't remember exactly but wasn't his movie supposed to be a sequel to Chistopher's last Superman movie.
Nah. This Superman is the Kingdom Come Superman. As fast as Wally West, completely impervious to kryptonite, way more powerful than regular Supes. Routh would destroy him.
@@Brandon-dh5rd Henry Cavill’s Superman doesn’t have as many strength feats as this version of Superman, so it’s hard to judge the upper limit of his ability. So far we’ve seen him pull a freighter over ice and lift a building while flying (depending on whether you consider Josstice League canon). In contrast this version of Clark lifted an entire island of kryptonite into space. Also, being the same version of Superman from the Christopher Reeve movies, he has the ability to rewind time, which DCEU Clark hasn’t displayed yet.
Not rouths fault at that, blame the script writers, i mean its not their fault that society has changed and focuses more on action then positive ideology i.e saving the day is all that matters. Eg in superman1 technically he didn’t even fight anyone either all he did was fix lex’s disaster and that’s it
@@Hellsing7747 Superman and Supergirl always had red lazer eyes on movies, comics and cartoons. Even the smallville series. So when they made it blue in the arrow verse I just hated it because it looks stupid.
It would be even better if they had actual choices to make driven by the characters' motivations. That's true storytelling. This "under a spell" bullshit is simply another Deus Ex Machina moment. Still cool stuff though.
I never thought I'd see the day where Brandon Routh comes back as Superman. As hit or miss as these shows can be, Brandon is a highlight in this. The little touch of gray in his hair was a nice added detail too.
@@superitgel1 Wow! Didn't know that, thats awesome. Does he not know he could do such a thing or just didn't do it because he knew it would mess up the time line? *ahem* Barry Allen. Though i havent seen the episode yet, cant wait until i do! I just really wanted to watch this scene.
ericjpdt I don’t mind him as Clark or Superman the show just needs better writers than supergirl. And maybe have him hit the gym and redesign his suit a bit but he fits the role pretty good
@@LogicbyDesign I think that Tyler have such a small frame, wich don't do favour to Superman's apearence. Even when the actor is bulcked up, like he was in the Bigger movie, he is still small.
I love that they mentioned the events of Christopher Reeves Superman 4. "This is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself." Rouths Superman is the same timeline and universe
@@CS_GOD64 Yes. It was confirmed by all- CW, Routh, and the Arrowverse showrunners. Routh's Kingdom Come Superman IS Christopher Reeve's Superman. It's actually why this "Earth" was named "Earth 78."
As Brandon aged more from his Superman movie he became the perfect depiction of Christopher Reeve Superman plus bits of his own picture of the character. Tyler is killing in the role now that he became a main character and key arrowverse member but Routh does deliver the vibe, including the so highlighted Clark/Kal-el postures and even adding the evolving to a Kingdom Come moment of his life
The 2006 movie wasn't super but it wasn't bad either. He did a Routh did a fine Superman, he certainly had the chops for it, and especially the baritone voice.
New super man was made to look like a bitch and inferior to super girl. How feminism has ruined super man 🤦♂️ Superman is always meant to be buff as fuck
We saw him stop a plane crash, zip around metropolis in minutes stopping multiple mini 9/11s from happening The point of that ganging was to show in spite of his power, Superman is really just a man, especially when he let's his guard down Then he brought it right back and tossed that KryptoIsland shit right into space Lol
@@lessermook7608 It's all right to see Superman doing regular saving, but, and I say this as someone who loves both Superman Returns and Man of Steel, Singer should done something greater rather than remake Superman: The Movie.
@@herox7191 yeah but either way, kingdom come has had centuries of growth. Guy is overly powerful compared to earlier years. And hell, even based on the Reeves movies and Superman returns, he's already wayyyyy more powerful than cw Superman so this should just be like him fighting Superboy or something lol
@@lman1006 i think so too. Perhaps it's coz Routh looks way too Superman that it just diminishes him lol but I really can't take him seriously as Superman.
You what is absolutely insane, that Lex plays such a big role in this crossover, but he goes through the entire thing not learning anyones secret identity.
He's the same superman but because a lot of time has progressed since Louis and his friends died he becomes kingdom come superman the 3rd most powerful superman in exisistance, the 2nd begin kryptonite immune superman where kryptonite didn't harm him but was subjected to mind control, but strength wise isn't on par with kingdom come superman, the only reason he is number 2, kryptonite had zero effect on him and he had all his abilities, the first being superman prime he is basically God mode and has zero weaknesses and infinite powers. This superman is basically superman where all is powers are beyond his prime limit and is really OP but has the weaknesses of superman but it takes a lot I mean shit ton of kryptonite to defeat him. He isn't like normal superman where a little bit of kryptonite and he's down and crying, this version would require buckets full to make him even flinch as he was the one who lifted a entire island made of kryptonite and still had all his powers for quite a while and took a bit of time for the kryptonite to actually effect him and when was able to walk away he still survived. A tiny bit of kryptonite won't do shit to this superman, This is why people say he is the 1st most powerful version of a normal superman as kryptonite immune superman spent shit ton of time in the sun to become immune but had pure magic weaknesses, and superman prime is basically God mode and is made of gold with infinite power, this superman is in line of normal supermen with all the abilities but LIKE OP POWERFUL compared to the rest. Every other superman this superman would wipe the floor with them, remember this superman was the superman that actually kept lex alive as he single handly deafted all his enemies and needed lex to entertain him.
@@loop5720 I already said he is the kingdom come superman. You do know that the superman from superman returns becomes this version after losing everyone. Go look it up the directors have confirmed this
@@loop5720 if you need to learn the story go on Wikipedia, after the events of superman returns superman single handly beats his opponents it was joker that gasses the daily planet and kills Louis and his friends and son. Superman goes back to fortresses of solitude and spends SHIT TON of time in there like 20 years pass by and another hero named magog kills joker and Magog gets arrested and placed in prison for jokers death, it was then superman comes back to say he's a hero free him. Bare in mind kingdom come superman is a alternative timeline to the actual death of joker. As it was batman that eventually kills joker not magog
Hoechlin held his own against Routh's Superman pretty well for a while. I was much happier with his performance here than his last super-fight. And I'm not upset he was outmatched by the OG Superman. Anyone would be.
@@jaeggernaut Tom Welling was never Superman.. he was Clark Kent (or the Blur.. lol). He also never wore the suit (what you see in the finale was all CGI, since he refused to wear it). Saying Welling is the best Superman is ignorance at its best. He was a good young Clark Kent though, that he was.
@@speedy4574 they tried to get him but couldn't tell him what he was going to do.they had no script and no idea.and once it came out agenda heavy he passed.
I never realized how much I love Brandon as Superman. It’s also so cool that he is still supposed to be the Christopher Reeve version too, since he mentions having a son named Jason which is from Superman Returns which is a sequel to the Reeve movies. Plus they use the theme and he acts just like the classic Clark Kent.
I thought the other one was suppose to be the injustice superman, couldn't save lois or jimmy because joker shot jimmy and then after that, made superman believe lois who was pregnant to be doomsday using fear toxin and made her heartbeat the detonator for a nuclear bomb and it was too late when he realized what happened. Metropolis is gone, lois and his baby is dead. He killed the joker and then went on to form a dictator regime. I hope this was the other superman, lex luthor maybe caught him before he killed the joker and promised him a deal as in the injustice universe he was trustworthy.
Brandon Routh, the old John Williams score. Glad to see he's having a second go at it now. "This is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself" Did they really
@@marioozzie Nah, he's playing the Reeve character. Guggenheim (one of the producers) confirmed that this Superman (which looks like the Kingdom Come version) is the same character as the Reeve version.
There was originally gonna be a scene in spider verse where all 3 would be arguing in the train miles was in, but got scrapped, they confirmed there would definitely gonna be loads of movie Easter eggs relating to the movies in part 2
"Actually this is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself" - I love that they reference that Routh's Superman is a continuation of the Reeves movies.
Try and find a clear image of it. The front page references Alex Ross as the artist of the photo and Mark Waid as the writer of the story. Nice little Easter Egg I thought.
In just two episodes, Brandon Routh gave us the best Superman in the arrowverse. They should have done a series for Brandon’s Superman. A series based off the kingdom come storyline would have been so awesome and different. A much darker take while showing how he manages to cope with the struggle of lose ands still be the hero we love would have been awesome. But I’m just thankful we got to see his Superman again one last time.
I'd love to see Brandon Routh in more Superman movies, as Henry Caville begins to hang up the digitally generated cape back on the hook, Brandon Routh should pick up the cape and wear it again proudly.
"You ok?" "Actually that's the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself". a reference to the third Christopher Reeve Superman film? in any case a hearty well done!!
Conrad Ferrus False. It was speculated that when she first showed up she may be more powerful, but was later shown to be solely due to Superman holding back because he was raised around non-powdered people and fragile surroundings. Superman proved definitively more powerful when he cut loose. Drastically more powerful. Supergirl has never been more powerful or as powerful as Superman in the comics, so quit your poor attempts at correcting others.
"This is the 2nd time I fought myself." Definitely referring to when Supes became drunk and fought himself in the dumpster, I think it was on Superman 3 , this is indeed the Reeve Superman that went Kingdom Come :)
I liked the easter egg in the Arrowverse when Atom played by Routh said Supergirl looked like his cousin and here he is, his doppelganger is Superman. The multiverse has a way of staying consistent.
Whoever shot the CGI scenes deserve a raise, they realize that computer generated shots are better at a distance, and high speed And the rest is the actors. Unlike Flash that constantly has close up shots of Barry's CGI face lol
And, I'm definitly going to get a lot of flack for saying this, there was less destruction compared to Superman vs Zod solo battle in Man Of Steel. At most only a few skyscrapers lost their windows.
@@davidguzman4500 You are right, I can't actually compare the two, but its not because one is a Tv show and the other is from a film. Its actually because the fight in the tv show is much shorter compared to the one in the film. Also different circumstances with the 2 supermen, being that one is mind controlled and both clearly holding back. My comment about the destruction was really meant as a joke anyhow, so don't tread on it really.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 these Supermen are also well established in combat. Henry literally just learned how to use his powers THAT day. And was put into a life or death battle against seasoned warriors without ever throwing a single punch his entire life. MAN of Steel remains the most realistic Superman movie of the lot.
Everyone: We love Brandon Routh's Superman!
Brandon Routh: Finally.
200% agree
we always have
Always loved Routh's Superman. With Man of Steel, if they'd dialed back Cavill's Superman about halfway in between Cavill's Superman and Routh's Superman, I believe they would've hit the reboot mark square on the head. Which they actually kinda did by the time Justice League came around.
@@samuelperkins9170 agree, Brandon always been and is FENOMENAL as Superman!!
Next to Christopher Reeve Brandon Routh is born to fly
Just remember Routh's superman lifted an entire island made of Kryptonite
TheOMGsee very underrated Superman movie
@@VickStarkiller You know that movie took like 6 years to make if I recall 😂😂😂😂
And yet that movie still sucked
Yeah, I think Routh's Superman here is outright immune to Kryptonite.
@@Kncperseus I like to think that while he was taking in the radiation from the Sun, it was kind of giving him a boost (like in Injustice games where you have I think 3 layers of health). And while he went under ground and picked it up, his health was going really, really low (not to the point where he doesn’t have health, cuz if that was the case he would’ve died in space from not being able to breathe or from the impact when he fell from space to the ground in that park).
I love how he's so casually confirming he's Christopher Reeve Superman.
N M It was so subtle that it took me hearing it twice. Like what was the other time he went nuts and fought himsel- OOOOOOOHHH, right... Superman 3... admittedly kinda ballsy move to reference that one, but undeniably a clever nod.
On the ship he also looks at Lois’s baby and goes “He looks like my son Jason.”Which is the name of the kid in Superman Returns.
Domt know why thats so surprising. His Superman movie was literally Superman Returns. He was already canonically the continuation of CR's Superman.
He was supposed to be Reeves Superman. Same music and all.
@@masonpines6349 Subtle? Maybe. Totally moronic? ABSO-FREAKIN'-LUTELY.
Everyone knew he was Reeve's Superman. So there's no "surprise" there. But the real "problem" is that Brandon Routh's Superman WAS NOT the one in Superman III, since that storyline was actually "deleted" from canon. So he's referencing something that didn't happened. SMH
Nice work, CW... said no one. LOL
How did not one but TWO Supermen just allow Lex Luthor to sneak into a room holding a giant evil book? No super hearing, no X-ray vision, no super speeding out of the room when they immediately notice a big evil book
its a CW show
The book has magical powers remember. It brainwashed Superman in this scene
@@potsdam28 Lets not disregard the fact that at 2:20, the perfectly human Lois Lane knocked out this super genius and stole his reality warping book.
Also, sounds like he could do that brainwash shit all along, but judging by the dialogue, he chose option no. 42795153, kill superman one by one.
Great plan.
Technically the book itself isn't evil ..just the man using it
The video should be titled:
“Movie Superman vs TV Superman”
or maybe "Movie Superman beats TV Superman"
actually thats Comic Superman not Movie Superman its just the actor who plays Superman in the past movies but its a different Superman.
TV superman is a beta
Except that Brandon's a T.V. Superman now, too!
Can you tell me what is the name of the movie?
I like how they kept the 'red' heat vision side effects for Routh's version.
And the Williams score as well!!!
Like in Superman Returns?
Nikko M
Brandon routh absolutely killed it. His superman was amazing.
Listen carefully and you can hear the heat vision buzz/hmmm sound from the Reeve movies.
I still say that Routh is a worthy successor of the Superman role. He looks and sounds like Reeve and yet adds a bit of modern tone to it.
I've said this same thing since Superman Returns first came out (and which I love with my whole heart because of how true to Reeves Superman it was). But man...the amount of backlash I got from it was INSANE! Like yikes...don't people have better things to do than attack fellow fans for absolutely nothing?
@@redraven24 I want to see him badly in DCEU now as supes from another universe... And in my opinion Routh looks more like a superman now than before because of that mature face and buffed up body
ankit jaiswal Agreed, replace Brandon’s KC suit with his classic, red, blue, and yellow, and OH MY GOD we have Christopher Reeves incarnate!!!
@@thatperformer3879 the character he is playing IS Reeves Superman continued
He even has the same birth month as Christopher reeves .
I love how Lex just walks in the room with a giant book like he can control when people can see him and when he wants to be invisible
He looks like he is ready to lure children into his van.
He Drinks with Draxx on the weekends and has mastered the art of standing so still he becomes invisible.
That’s Lenny from Superman Quest for peace
To be fair. Lex is the kind of guy to walk around like he owns and controls everyone. The book is just the accessory.
Alan Harper went bald and became rich and powerful
god brandon as superman makes tyler look like a little boy lmao
Fr how tall is brandon
@@BIGDADDYRAY18 6'4"
Chris Griffin 6’2, He looked a little shorter than Zachary Levi on Chuck.
@@Tanfo77 oh lol
He's actually 6'3".. well almost 6'3".. 189 cm
Who’s here just to see Brandon Routh as Superman again
I do. And want to see him fight alongside gal Gadot. (of course Brandon needs to bulk up more than Henry)
I think that Henry is good but Brandon is the best Superman since Christopher Reeve.
@@JarinXeno Wasn't Brandon "portraying" Christopher? I don't remember exactly but wasn't his movie supposed to be a sequel to Chistopher's last Superman movie.
@@number3665 Yes, it was supposed to be 5 years after the last of the Christopher Reeve movies.
The whole reason I’m watching the crossover. Well, was watching the crossover.
“This is the 2nd time I’ve gone nuts & fought myself” 😱
Referencing Reeve’s Superman 3
or bizarro
@@AbeEdits0 No
Well fun fact Brandon Routhes superman is Christopher Reeves superman if you didnt know.
@@rubenestrada8435 yess
Lol yes! 👏🏾
Imagine Brandon Routh’s Superman going up against Henry Cavill’s Superman. Now there’s a fight I wouldn’t mind seeing.
Cavill would destroy him
@@Brandon-dh5rd If he were wearing his black suit, then yeah, he would completely wreck Brandon Routh.
Nah. This Superman is the Kingdom Come Superman. As fast as Wally West, completely impervious to kryptonite, way more powerful than regular Supes. Routh would destroy him.
@@bobdathang3229 funny joke
@@Brandon-dh5rd
Henry Cavill’s Superman doesn’t have as many strength feats as this version of Superman, so it’s hard to judge the upper limit of his ability. So far we’ve seen him pull a freighter over ice and lift a building while flying (depending on whether you consider Josstice League canon). In contrast this version of Clark lifted an entire island of kryptonite into space. Also, being the same version of Superman from the Christopher Reeve movies, he has the ability to rewind time, which DCEU Clark hasn’t displayed yet.
Fans: We want a cool superman fight
Budget: well yes but actually no
You gotta give them credit for trying. You know the CG artists for these shows would go nuts if they had twice the money.... and time.
Yeah the budget needs to go up and they need to hire the people that did thanos for cg
Ahahha
Wonder if it was intentionally made to look like Superman IV fight between Supes and Nuclear Man. You already had Lenny Luthor there...
Harry Cavill should've been in it, but I know, the budget wouldn't allow it, or even Dean Cain.
He finally fought someone else other than a giant island.
😄😄😄 I get what you did there!!!
Savage.
Not rouths fault at that, blame the script writers, i mean its not their fault that society has changed and focuses more on action then positive ideology i.e saving the day is all that matters. Eg in superman1 technically he didn’t even fight anyone either all he did was fix lex’s disaster and that’s it
@@VTuber_Clipp3r all true but still. At least we got to see Routh in some fighting action.
Steven Ramirez especially when this is supposed to be the same Superman
This is wrong. Superman has the clear advantage over Superman but somehow Superman almost beat him ? I’m out.
Omg lol
EJ 620 we all know that Superman would’ve clapped Superman if Superman went all out
the joke isn’t funny u coulda just said big superman vs little superman
@@jasavage7017 wait you mean ray aka super man would've won but how if their powers is the same level its like Naruto vs Naruto both are equal.
Angelique Canty yeah I could definitely see Ray Supes winning this especially because he’s angry and bloodlusted
Brandon Routh finally gets his Superman role he deserves. He is so good in this scene.
I'm glad they gave him the red lazer eyes instead of that stupid blue one
Wait... red lazer is not stupid but Blue is ? Dude, it's just a God damn color...
@@Hellsing7747 Superman and Supergirl always had red lazer eyes on movies, comics and cartoons. Even the smallville series. So when they made it blue in the arrow verse I just hated it because it looks stupid.
@@naparoid5507 mayhe bcs how it looks...i mean i can imagine they can make blue laser look good...but yeah i prefer Red,this ones looks orange lmao
@@naparoid5507 lol, what do you think, Star Wars Lightsaber?
The_Lazy_Guy the Blue looks fine. It makes the Arrowverse Supers unique. Besides, theoretically it means their heat vision is hotter than the red one.
I’m glad that the reason they were fighting wasn’t because of some stupid misunderstanding like most super hero brawls
Most fights are stupid misunderstandings
Actually 90% of these fights is because of some sort of mind control. Just watch Smallville.
They fought because Lex is a really stupid super genius.
mind control is even more stupid tf
It would be even better if they had actual choices to make driven by the characters' motivations. That's true storytelling. This "under a spell" bullshit is simply another Deus Ex Machina moment. Still cool stuff though.
The CW should give Brandon his own. Superman show...
CW is really the one you are choosing over HBO? CW is just gonna make Superman show a drama series
Or make him the DCEU superman
@Mostafa Saad Not unnecessary
@@adriancruz5418 and HBO will just add sex lol
@@CyrilSmithVA THIS! Routh was awesome playing the part of supes , he was just given a boring script to work from in Superman returns. Thumbs up!
I dont blame the actors, I blame the writers and the production team
Always the case bc the actors are just people hired by production
Me too😂
It was THAT easy to get the book? Are you kidding me?
exactly 😂
Damn right, the writers suck
I never thought I'd see the day where Brandon Routh comes back as Superman. As hit or miss as these shows can be, Brandon is a highlight in this. The little touch of gray in his hair was a nice added detail too.
People forget that this is the same Superman that lifted an entire island
Yep and not to mention that Island happened to be made of Kryptonite
good lord that was such an underwhelming and boring climax to a Superman movie
Yep this version is really strong level in live action media.
Made of KRYPTONITE
He actually moved the moon if you go by quest of Peace
He’ll save the world by using his vegan powers.
He can't. He thought chicken was vegan
@@arycogito Scott Pilgrim v.s the World 😂
Other guy’ll be dust by monday
aran anduyo because the cleaning lady dusts, she dusts
Did he escape the vegan police tho?
Tyler's superman is not as bad as people think. He's great on Superman & Lois
because the show has way better writting. Brandon would still fit the suit better
i keep seeing clips of superman and lois, looks like a good show
@@LordSeth-hf8ew It's really good. Try it
@@jonzwikk1582 yeah I'm gonna watch some super girl then crisis for some context
@@LordSeth-hf8ew you don't need it, i started last week and i'm obsessed with Superman & Lois, is the best DC series ever
I love the old classic laser beams.
Same
Yup. And this Superman can literally turn back time to save Lois Lane.
@@superitgel1 Wow! Didn't know that, thats awesome. Does he not know he could do such a thing or just didn't do it because he knew it would mess up the time line? *ahem* Barry Allen.
Though i havent seen the episode yet, cant wait until i do! I just really wanted to watch this scene.
@@superitgel1 no he cant he's kingdom come superman
@@superitgel1 They should only do that if they play "If I could turn back time" while it was happening.
“Martha! My mother’s name is Martha too!”
“Yeah, we are from parallel universes.”
Batman: Why you say that my mother's name?!?
That would have been kinda funny ngl
This commentary is underrated. Give him more likes
*Yawn* 🥱
@theguyonthecouch keep calm, relax and wait for the snyder cut
Am i the only who wants a Superman show with Brandon Routh?
A lot of people want, but CW is producing a Tyler Hoeclin,s Superman series instead, wich is awful.
ericjpdt I don’t mind him as Clark or Superman the show just needs better writers than supergirl. And maybe have him hit the gym and redesign his suit a bit but he fits the role pretty good
@@LogicbyDesign I think that Tyler have such a small frame, wich don't do favour to Superman's apearence. Even when the actor is bulcked up, like he was in the Bigger movie, he is still small.
Sadly no your not , I’m glad there not making that awful shid
He reminds me more of Christopher Reeves so i agree
I love that they mentioned the events of Christopher Reeves Superman 4. "This is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself." Rouths Superman is the same timeline and universe
You mean III.
@@MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch yes, correct
This one is for you, Mr. Reeve. We wish you were here for this.
CW - let's have another superman show called "Kingdom"
Brandon - I'm available.
J H that would be awesome and I love Brandon Routh’s Clark Kent/Superman in Superman returns. As well an Henry Cavill in man of steel.
"It's the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself"
Did he mean the junkyard scene in the third film?
yep
"You always wanted to fly Kent, here's your chance!!!"
So this was actually the movie superman?
I thought he was just a version of that but not exactly like the movies.
@@CS_GOD64 Yes. It was confirmed by all- CW, Routh, and the Arrowverse showrunners. Routh's Kingdom Come Superman IS Christopher Reeve's Superman.
It's actually why this "Earth" was named "Earth 78."
@@RycheNNole Thanks, man.
As Brandon aged more from his Superman movie he became the perfect depiction of Christopher Reeve Superman plus bits of his own picture of the character. Tyler is killing in the role now that he became a main character and key arrowverse member but Routh does deliver the vibe, including the so highlighted Clark/Kal-el postures and even adding the evolving to a Kingdom Come moment of his life
Routh’s Superman makes Tyler’s look like Superboy.
Edit: Jeezus. Thanks for all the likes.
Just superboy. Not Prime though
The 2006 movie wasn't super but it wasn't bad either. He did a Routh did a fine Superman, he certainly had the chops for it, and especially the baritone voice.
I just don't like Tyler as superman. He is to short and to small framed. Routh looks great as superman even better then Cavill.
Imagine welling suiting up
This is the worst CGI
Routh looks awesome. The other guy just looks like an accountant going to a fancy dress party.
True.😁😁
Yup. Along with Welling, Reeves, and even Cavill. They all tower over this new Supes.
the other guy just looks like a piece of shit, which his acting is...
New super man was made to look like a bitch and inferior to super girl. How feminism has ruined super man 🤦♂️ Superman is always meant to be buff as fuck
agreed on that.
I love Brandon Routh as The Atom but seeing him as Superman again is awesome
I knew he looked a lot like the atom
how they do when this supes meet atom? or is atom dead or something
The characters just act all OMG YOU TWO LOOK SO SIMILAR and let it go.
@@christianb572 oh lol I thought they weren't going to aknowledge that😂
Bro they are very different first one is Ray Palmer and other one is Superman. You can't see the obvious difference.
This is why having a low budge sucks ass, especially for big/heavy animated fight scenes or just animation in general.
It’s cool to finally see Brandon Routh’s superman fight someone rather than getting kicked around on a kryptonite island
Like the old saying, better late than never.
We saw him stop a plane crash, zip around metropolis in minutes stopping multiple mini 9/11s from happening
The point of that ganging was to show in spite of his power, Superman is really just a man, especially when he let's his guard down
Then he brought it right back and tossed that KryptoIsland shit right into space
Lol
Hahha Yeaa but it looked bad :/
@@lessermook7608 It's all right to see Superman doing regular saving, but, and I say this as someone who loves both Superman Returns and Man of Steel, Singer should done something greater rather than remake Superman: The Movie.
i don't think this superman is supposed to be the same as from Superman Returns, but rather Kingdom Come Superman.
This is how he should of looked in superman returns lol
Well this is a totally different Superman. That was a sequel to Reeves movies. This is kingdom come
lovefrompraha they are actually confirmed to be the same this is the same Superman just in future he became kingdom come Superman
Well said. I was about to say that
@@herox7191 yeah but either way, kingdom come has had centuries of growth. Guy is overly powerful compared to earlier years. And hell, even based on the Reeves movies and Superman returns, he's already wayyyyy more powerful than cw Superman so this should just be like him fighting Superboy or something lol
lovefrompraha no..this is the reeves Superman ..this was already confirmed by creators
I really like Tyler Hoechlin as Superman but great Caesar’s Ghost, Brandon Routh looks more like Superman now than he did back in 2006.
I think he's the worst superman yet way too small and he just doesnt have the look 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@lman1006 good for you
@@lman1006 Who is way too small? Dean Cain played Superman and he's shorter than I am. Played a damn good one too.
@@lman1006 i think so too. Perhaps it's coz Routh looks way too Superman that it just diminishes him lol but I really can't take him seriously as Superman.
@@VickStarkiller I know right it is good for thanks.
You what is absolutely insane, that Lex plays such a big role in this crossover, but he goes through the entire thing not learning anyones secret identity.
"Second time I've gone nuts and fought myself"
Is he referring to Superman III?
Yeah
Yup
Yes 👍
Yes he is
Yeap
Anyone noticed that Routh's Superman laser beams are just like they were in Superman Returns?
He's the same superman but because a lot of time has progressed since Louis and his friends died he becomes kingdom come superman the 3rd most powerful superman in exisistance, the 2nd begin kryptonite immune superman where kryptonite didn't harm him but was subjected to mind control, but strength wise isn't on par with kingdom come superman, the only reason he is number 2, kryptonite had zero effect on him and he had all his abilities, the first being superman prime he is basically God mode and has zero weaknesses and infinite powers. This superman is basically superman where all is powers are beyond his prime limit and is really OP but has the weaknesses of superman but it takes a lot I mean shit ton of kryptonite to defeat him. He isn't like normal superman where a little bit of kryptonite and he's down and crying, this version would require buckets full to make him even flinch as he was the one who lifted a entire island made of kryptonite and still had all his powers for quite a while and took a bit of time for the kryptonite to actually effect him and when was able to walk away he still survived. A tiny bit of kryptonite won't do shit to this superman, This is why people say he is the 1st most powerful version of a normal superman as kryptonite immune superman spent shit ton of time in the sun to become immune but had pure magic weaknesses, and superman prime is basically God mode and is made of gold with infinite power, this superman is in line of normal supermen with all the abilities but LIKE OP POWERFUL compared to the rest. Every other superman this superman would wipe the floor with them, remember this superman was the superman that actually kept lex alive as he single handly deafted all his enemies and needed lex to entertain him.
This Superman has Christopher Reeve's Superman's pass, with the future of Kingdom Come, and have similarities with Superman Returns
@@loop5720 I already said he is the kingdom come superman. You do know that the superman from superman returns becomes this version after losing everyone. Go look it up the directors have confirmed this
@@loop5720 if you need to learn the story go on Wikipedia, after the events of superman returns superman single handly beats his opponents it was joker that gasses the daily planet and kills Louis and his friends and son. Superman goes back to fortresses of solitude and spends SHIT TON of time in there like 20 years pass by and another hero named magog kills joker and Magog gets arrested and placed in prison for jokers death, it was then superman comes back to say he's a hero free him. Bare in mind kingdom come superman is a alternative timeline to the actual death of joker. As it was batman that eventually kills joker not magog
Filip Sosnowski yes not sure if it bothers me or not
In another universe: Tom welling taking a snack while he's watching the supermans fight.
Yep so true 😄❤️
Lol like the Spider-Man 2 meme? I can dig it
Don't you mean Supermen? Hahaha
I so want to see ROUTH play SUPERMAN in a KINGDOM COME mini series.
I suddenly expected Charlie and Jake to open the door and drag Alan out.
who who and who
@@mjstwocents4568 2 and a Half Men reference
😂😂😂
Does Tyler's Superman ever do anything but be a punching bag every time he appears in the CW shows ?.
So that ppl don’t complain that superman is too OP
you know its marketing for supergirl right?
Imagine it being a wrestling gig and he has to job to put supergirl over
Hoechlin held his own against Routh's Superman pretty well for a while. I was much happier with his performance here than his last super-fight. And I'm not upset he was outmatched by the OG Superman. Anyone would be.
Daniel Dickson yeah but then you add that up with all of his other L’s and it just looks bad
I don’t know what’s going on, but i can’t take Alan Harper being a villain seriously.
The last few castings for Lex haven’t been good at all, but he’s a lot better than Jesse Eisenberg
Too bad it's not Rosenbaum
pyrolee17 Rosenbaum, Best Lex Luthor. And Tom Welling, Best Superman
@@jaeggernaut Tom Welling was never Superman.. he was Clark Kent (or the Blur.. lol). He also never wore the suit (what you see in the finale was all CGI, since he refused to wear it). Saying Welling is the best Superman is ignorance at its best. He was a good young Clark Kent though, that he was.
@@themichaelvedal He was never even young. He was 24 when they started. :)
Brandon Routh is a criminally underrated actor. He was great in Crooked Arrows
I prefer the lex luthor from Smallville. He's much more menacing than this luthor. Looks like a used car salesman from Cleveland.
They probably couldn't afford Rossenbaum.
Tom Welling mocked him saying He's not Lex
@@speedy4574 they tried to get him but couldn't tell him what he was going to do.they had no script and no idea.and once it came out agenda heavy he passed.
@@HO-os8ry good for him. He has more honor and dignity than most.
Michael is extremely busy with his wine and coffee business, then there’s also his podcast.
It's so impressive seeing how far technology has come. This fight scene looks like a mid 2000s action film. And that is not an insult for a tv show
Mid 2000s actiom film. So.....Superman Returns (2006)
Looks like 90s show
Lockonese you don’t know what you’re talking about. this fight looks surprisingly good, possibly even great, for any network show, let alone a CW show
yeah, you can notice the budget raise
@@CoyoteWill664 Dude you're crazy.
Even if Lex still had the book, SuperMan would've totally beaten *SuperMan..*
CC Elite *which one would beat which, idiot*
Supreme That’s the joke idiot 🤦🏾♂️ WOOOOOOOOOOSH
Phoenix Jackson the joke isn’t funny doe
JA Savage Never said anything about it being funny
Supreme thats the JOKE YOU FUCKING DUMBASS🤣🤣🤣🤣
The low budget is crazy
Although the movie wasn't that great Brandon Routh was a great Superman! Nice to see him back in character.
Everyone talking shit about Alan’s acting, but here I am asking why Lex is just standing there with the magical book waiting for some direction.
I never realized how much I love Brandon as Superman. It’s also so cool that he is still supposed to be the Christopher Reeve version too, since he mentions having a son named Jason which is from Superman Returns which is a sequel to the Reeve movies. Plus they use the theme and he acts just like the classic Clark Kent.
Brandon was great, it's just that Superman Returns was a very slow film especially compared to most modern superhero movies
And he mentioned, this is the 2nd time I went nuts and fought myself. (originals when he was fighting himself in the junkyard)
I thought the other one was suppose to be the injustice superman, couldn't save lois or jimmy because joker shot jimmy and then after that, made superman believe lois who was pregnant to be doomsday using fear toxin and made her heartbeat the detonator for a nuclear bomb and it was too late when he realized what happened. Metropolis is gone, lois and his baby is dead. He killed the joker and then went on to form a dictator regime. I hope this was the other superman, lex luthor maybe caught him before he killed the joker and promised him a deal as in the injustice universe he was trustworthy.
A thing I missed until right now: the picture for the 'Daily Planet' attack article is the comic panel from Kingdom Come. Nice touch.
Brandon Routh, the old John Williams score. Glad to see he's having a second go at it now.
"This is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself" Did they really
Yes they really did reference Superman III
That was a reference to Superman 3. But Superman Returns was supposed to be a sequel to Superman 2.
Superman III is canon!!!!!!!
The dummy lex must have strong arms for carrying that huge ass book around everywhere
I believe this version is the Christopher Reeve/Superman Returns.
Connor Kent! He is. It plays John William’s score and even a hint of John Ottman’s from Returns when Clark appears
He is. He even referenced his son Jason, later on.
Isn`t Routh supposed to be playing the Kingdom Come Superman? not at all the same version as the Richard Donner one...
@@marioozzie well it is now
@@marioozzie Nah, he's playing the Reeve character. Guggenheim (one of the producers) confirmed that this Superman (which looks like the Kingdom Come version) is the same character as the Reeve version.
@1:33 ohhh the sweet melody
Dude, imagine if Christopher Reeves was still alive and made a cameo
That's what I was thinking. The OG Superman that made him more iconic than before
Atleast Brandon Ruth did it for him
REEVE u idiot not Reeves
He would do great as Kal-L
well Brandon’s Superman is reeve Superman anyway
I'm so happy Routh is getting praise for this. He deserved more time in the cape. Hopefully he gets his own spinoff
“Well this isn’t the first time I’ve gone nuts and fought myself” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
assassin Reference to SUPERMAN III.
I got that reference
They just had to reference that god awful movie even though Superman Returns was supposed to follow the first 2 Christopher Reeve movies.
@@GurpreetSingh-jv3od *Reeve
@@chessandmathguy Yeah. I've got a habit of putting an S after Reeve because I knew someone with the last name Reeves.
1:18 - The funniest thing about this is how they're still tracking both Supermen after they fly out of view LOL
This makes me think what if MCU unites Tobey's Spiderman, Andrew's and Tom's in a movie
Aira Dita I saw an article about that few days ago looks like it might happen sometime in the future
A live action into the spidervese is very likely to happen, and having at least tobey as the old peter parker is very viable
There was originally gonna be a scene in spider verse where all 3 would be arguing in the train miles was in, but got scrapped, they confirmed there would definitely gonna be loads of movie Easter eggs relating to the movies in part 2
Nah. I don't wanna see Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man ruined.
Beijamin Arola
"Actually this is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself" - I love that they reference that Routh's Superman is a continuation of the Reeves movies.
"It's like Lex turned all of his love into hate."
Me: Martha!
i thought i was the only person that actually loved Superman Returns, Brandon was great.
No no, I love that show too
Brandon’s good at being Superman and Ray Palmer.
Yeah! Love him 😄❤️
Love how the newspaper article photo is taken RIGHT outta Kingdom Come: Superman
Joker did all that.
The shot of Older Superman nearly choking his younger self is straight from an Alex Ross comic cover. That was another nice homage
Try and find a clear image of it. The front page references Alex Ross as the artist of the photo and Mark Waid as the writer of the story. Nice little Easter Egg I thought.
Fuck joker
In just two episodes, Brandon Routh gave us the best Superman in the arrowverse. They should have done a series for Brandon’s Superman. A series based off the kingdom come storyline would have been so awesome and different. A much darker take while showing how he manages to cope with the struggle of lose ands still be the hero we love would have been awesome. But I’m just thankful we got to see his Superman again one last time.
I'd love to see Brandon Routh in more Superman movies, as Henry Caville begins to hang up the digitally generated cape back on the hook, Brandon Routh should pick up the cape and wear it again proudly.
"You ok?" "Actually that's the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself". a reference to the third Christopher Reeve Superman film? in any case a hearty well done!!
When Atom meet Brandon Superman: insert double Spiderman meme
No u
I want to see Atom meet Brandon Superman
Alan got really messed up when Charlie left him in the house.
😂😂
Finally someone commenting on the important stuff 😂😂😂
After season 7, it makes sense that Alan turns evil.
Hahah I made the exact same comment on the smallville scene
All the alamony payments got to him now he has become what he had always feared "bad alan"
Everbody gangsta till Henry appears
Hoechlin’s Superman looks like the discount store variant next to Routh.
No, he looks like the one that people would buy at zentaizone
Exactly
He is. He is the beta Superman, inferior to Supergirl even in raw physicality. The modern Superman, weaker than the girls.
Conrad Ferrus False. It was speculated that when she first showed up she may be more powerful, but was later shown to be solely due to Superman holding back because he was raised around non-powdered people and fragile surroundings. Superman proved definitively more powerful when he cut loose. Drastically more powerful.
Supergirl has never been more powerful or as powerful as Superman in the comics, so quit your poor attempts at correcting others.
He reminds me a little of Dean Cain Superman
Michael Rosenbaum - the best lex ever , and of course Tom welling & Erica durance our Clark& Lois forever . Literally the best .
So this is closest Christopher
Reeves Superman...
Reeve*
And yes
Now imagine Tom suited up
His voice is so spot on that it’s scary
Danny Benhur I always thought Routh was the best representation of Christopher Reeve’s Superman.
Reeves, Routh, Cavil, Hoechlin. The new supe has a lot to live up to after all these greats.
Cant forget Welling too
"This is the 2nd time I fought myself." Definitely referring to when Supes became drunk and fought himself in the dumpster, I think it was on Superman 3 , this is indeed the Reeve Superman that went Kingdom Come :)
I like how rouths superman proved hes the strongest superman in this scene
It's all cringeworthy acting. The lois is awful and her acting is terrible.
Dallas Savage yeah
@@Phoenixfamiliar so she is not going to be nominated for an emmy or Oscar? damn it
@@Phoenixfamiliar surprisingly not in the new superman and lois show tho. the acting is pretty good
THIS WAS AMAZING. TYLER HOECHLIN AND BRANDON ROUTH’S SUPERMEN ARE ICONIC TOGETHER!!!!!
I liked the easter egg in the Arrowverse when Atom played by Routh said Supergirl looked like his cousin and here he is, his doppelganger is Superman. The multiverse has a way of staying consistent.
Seeing Brandon as Superman again after so long brings out my inner geek😂
"This is the second time I've gotten nuts and fought myself" Like if you got the reference
Superman 3
Superman 3! Nice reference!
The one superman movie I never saw, for some reason, it never aired in HBO, Cinemax etc. When the others did.
@@sekaibreaker9243 I thought about Injustice, lol.
@@yutro213 same
Brandon Routh's Superman should have taken one look at Lex and said "Lenny?"
You're right. I had forgotten about Lenny Luthor.
The 3d modeled city looks straight out of a 2007 video game
Brandon Routh's Superman finally get to punch someone
0:14 So basically both Supermen saw each other awkwardly run away in the middle of a conversation in normal speed to change clothes.
i like how lois and iris just watch them fight instead of knocking out lex much sooner
Stan Lee I mean, a cool fight is a cool fight
@@hihowareya7054 well said 👌
Right! Hit him with a mug!
OMG you're back!!
Yeah that was my only problem with this scene.
I didn't thought Andrew Tate also hate Superman.
Clark is honest and kind while doing the right thing for nothing in return. Of course, Andrew Tate hates him.
Because Cavill is out, DC needs to bring Routh back into their cinematic universe
Cavill said he is not done with the role
@Rob Davis I know...
@digitalXmage yeah dude, they should just bring Brandon back.
@digitalXmage If Netflix can provide Geralt hairs onto him, surely they can do the same with Cavill's hairline if need be.
how did this conversation spiral into henry cavills hairline?
I just realized lex actor's is alan from two and a half men
Never noticed it till now. Thank you my friend😄
GREEN GLASS
Are you serious??? 😵😵
I’m just glad to see Alan get some respect for once
MEEEENNNN
And also Lex newphew from Superman 4 The Quest for Peace..
Whoever shot the CGI scenes deserve a raise, they realize that computer generated shots are better at a distance, and high speed
And the rest is the actors.
Unlike Flash that constantly has close up shots of Barry's CGI face lol
L K 1:48 was pretty dope, wish impacts of that style were more common
Wtf bro it looks like a ps2 game
are u high? the CGI is embarrassing
@@TrustMeMore lmfao thats what im saying looks ugly and cringe to look at
Cortes Don’t set your standards high with cws cgi, for this scene it was good for what their budget can do
I like how sound the Superman (John Williams) and Supergirl (Blake Neely) themes when both Clarks change into Superman.
This battle was so good between the Supermen. Definitely the Man of Steel style battle was nice between bother Supermen.
And, I'm definitly going to get a lot of flack for saying this, there was less destruction compared to Superman vs Zod solo battle in Man Of Steel. At most only a few skyscrapers lost their windows.
Deadpoolrockz6 u can’t really compare the two tbh 🤷🏻♂️ tv show vs movie its not fair to compare them tbh
@@davidguzman4500 You are right, I can't actually compare the two, but its not because one is a Tv show and the other is from a film. Its actually because the fight in the tv show is much shorter compared to the one in the film. Also different circumstances with the 2 supermen, being that one is mind controlled and both clearly holding back. My comment about the destruction was really meant as a joke anyhow, so don't tread on it really.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 these Supermen are also well established in combat. Henry literally just learned how to use his powers THAT day. And was put into a life or death battle against seasoned warriors without ever throwing a single punch his entire life. MAN of Steel remains the most realistic Superman movie of the lot.
Lol what the hell? You cw stans lick whatever trash they trow on your way
I think Tom Welling was also a reference to "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"
If you know that story, you'll get what I'm talking about
Rich Tannis Jordan Elliott
Shouldn’t Superman have gone through the wall and not just make a dent.
He could have used his ability to fly to slow himself down enough so he wouldnt go through the wall
Low budget CGI.
salvador Diaz he shouldve went through the entire floor and maybe few hundreds of feet afterwards.
Honestly if these two went all out against each other, it would be an extinction level event.
Imagine this but produced with a decent budget