GHOST is a WANNABE Metal band

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  • Is GHOST is a WANNABE Metal band...? From the data I've seen, there's about a 50/50 split opinion on the matter. Hardcore metal enthusiasts claim GHOST doesn't posses enough heavy guitar sounds and aggressive vocals to be considered METAL. In this video we'll be watching the official video for the track, "CIRICE", which is the old english word for "CHURCH." It deals with deep themes of belonging, cults and spirituality. The question is, will METALHEADS GHOST this song, or will it be accepted as part of the heavy metal cannon? Ghost, also formerly known as Ghost B.C. in the United States, is a Swedish rock band that was formed in Linköping in 2006.
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  • @ShredmasterScott
    @ShredmasterScott  Рік тому +7

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    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 Рік тому

      In this music video there are kids mimicing playing to a recorded tape
      In a band there are I think
      2 guitars, drummer, vocal, keyboard backening vocals,and bass

    • @freedomfighter5845
      @freedomfighter5845 Рік тому

      I consider them girl metal but I still like them. No crunch. Good hooks. Good props and image.

    • @fonesrphunny7242
      @fonesrphunny7242 Рік тому

      Sounds almost as useless as a collection of standard chords in MIDI format.
      Just practice, get inspired and write shit down.

    • @Boudica234
      @Boudica234 Рік тому +1

      That family reunion video was fucking hilarious. Seeing the old folks just sitting in front of that wall of metal had me in tears.

    • @seangregory932
      @seangregory932 Рік тому

      Should check out miasma by ghost. Instrumental masterpiece

  • @lehtokurppa7824
    @lehtokurppa7824 Рік тому +195

    Well Ghost never claimed to be anything specific, so the question in itself is irrelevant. The music is just perfect and diverse.

    • @AlastorsShadowDemon
      @AlastorsShadowDemon Рік тому +13

      @@deeingalaplike
      Not all metal is shit. The gatekeeping fans are though. “tHeYrE nOt mEtAl” all the time… it’s annoying.

    • @anthonysoto2923
      @anthonysoto2923 7 місяців тому +1

      Ghost are a pop act. Not metal but enjoy what you want to. I guess.

    • @kiillabytez
      @kiillabytez 3 місяці тому +2

      @@AlastorsShadowDemon The same people when asked "What IS Metal then?" will only give you 2-bandds as their answer because "only those two bands are Metal and everyone else is just a poseur."

  • @widgetfilms
    @widgetfilms Рік тому +230

    I don't really care if they are metal or not. I really connect with their music and I think they're skilled musicians. They have some songs that are undeniably metal, they have some that are more hard-rock, and they even have some that are closer to pop or EDM. I think a lot of people think they're trying to be metal. I think they're trying to be their own thing, which is something that is clearly inspired by metal at the very least.

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW Рік тому +4

      Dude Ghost is just a pop Mercyful Fate and King Diamond

    • @CTGDesigner
      @CTGDesigner Рік тому +14

      Musically, they're solid. Impressive song writing.

    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 Рік тому +14

      @@PortugueseMACPOW I agree yet I have to ask. Who cares? They aren't metal, but they do great music, and every single song is great

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Рік тому +2

      @@PortugueseMACPOWand?

    • @AxiomofDiscord
      @AxiomofDiscord Рік тому +12

      People just want to categorize everything and bands like Ghost infuriate them so they claim they are fake something to feel like they are pushing back against what frustrates them. When Ghost just wants to make Ghost music.

  • @Night1989
    @Night1989 Рік тому +39

    OMG Shred, your family reunion shredding is your hero moment, we need the full video! :D

    • @mylessterrett
      @mylessterrett Рік тому +2

      Difficult times

    • @Jacobin777
      @Jacobin777 Рік тому +1

      I busted out laughing when I saw that...! 😂

  • @robspectre1973
    @robspectre1973 Рік тому +20

    Ghost is the modern day version of a lost genre of metal. Blue Oyster Cult, Sabbath, Kiss, etc...
    Now do Ritual and Pinnacle

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 Рік тому

      Definitely Blue Oyster Cult.

  • @legoaxel8695
    @legoaxel8695 Рік тому +25

    Tobias doesn't care what genre they are.
    He is writing music he likes.
    Tobias got even happy when someone told him that Ghost is like an gothic abba band because he loves abba.

    • @Craig-xf7ox
      @Craig-xf7ox 4 місяці тому

      ABBA Sabbath!!!!! Ghost is the most interesting band I've heard in a very long time. I love how you can hear Zombie Queen and it's one thing then Mummy Dust it's completely something else then you can hear Life Eternal and be somewhere else.

  • @dansantosn
    @dansantosn Рік тому +81

    Oh, and btw... if you're interested in the "lore" behind the act, it's basically this:
    There's this ancient satanic cult called "The Ministry", which wanted to spread the word of Satan in the most effective way available. In the late 60's/early 70's, since Rock music was on a global hype, they decided to spread the word that way, founding a rock band called Ghost. The lead singer would always have the title of "Papa" (which means pope). The first one was called Papa Nihil (the one we see earning the face paint and the white eye in 'Dance Macabre' video). Following the downfall of Rock, Ghost went in the shadows and was never seen again... until 2010, when the band suddenly reappears, now with a new lead singer: Papa Emeritus I (eldest son of Papa Nihil) releasing the first album (Opus Eponymous). After that, each album has a new frontman. That being said, we had Papa Emeritus II (younger brother of the previous one) in 'Infestissuman' (2013), Papa Emeritus III (youngest of the brothers) in 'Meliora' (2015) and then all 3 were mysteriously murdered, leaving the frontman spot open, but no more Nihil sons to fill in. Because of that, they were forced to, for the first time, use someone out of the bloodline, and, as so, he couldn't be called "papa". So we had Cardinal Copia for the 4th album ('Prequelle', 2018). Papa Nihil dies onstage and now, with the old leader dead, Sister Imperator (the woman we see initiating Nihil in 'Dance Macabre') promoted Cardinal Copia to papa, officially named Papa Emeritus IV and he was the frontman for the 5th and current album, "Impera', from 2022.
    The music video for the song 'Kiss The Go Goat' (supposedly a song from the old days when the band was formed in the 60's) reveals us some details that fill some holes in the plot. Back then, Nihil and Imperator were lovers, but as he was becoming a rockstar, he was getting too much attention from his female fans and for that reason they broke up. Sister Imperator was pregnant at that time, but never told him. Now, in current days, she was actually the one who ordered all Nihil's sons to be killed, so she could point someone new to the role and that someone was Cardinal Copia, her and Nihil's bastard son. That way she got her revenge and at the same time could put his bastard son in his place of right, as papa and leader of the band.
    Obviously, all that is just fiction and was being told and revealed to us slowly through the years by the band in all sorts of media (specially short lore videos they release on the band's UA-cam channel). The lead singer behind the mask (all of the masks), songwriter and creator of it all is Tobias Forge.
    Albums are always conceptual too. The first 3 were 3 parts of a same story. 'Opus Eponymous' is about the annunciation of the Antichrist coming to Earth. 'Infestissuman' is about his birth and first contact with mankind. 'Meliora' is about the relationship between him and men growing stronger and stronger, to the point we reach the absolute absence of God.
    The next 2 had a new concept of their own. 'Prequelle' compared faith and blind beliefs to a plague, fast spreading and dangerous (having the Black Plague as the conceptual background). And finally, 'Impera' is about the mankind's fetish for power and how frail it is. It takes empires as an example, since every single one of them throughout history has risen and then fallen. Never failed and will never fail, so also modern empires, no matter how much they seem to be unbreakable, will eventually fall. It's just a matter of time.
    It's simply good entertainment.

    • @adrianfytr35
      @adrianfytr35 Рік тому +4

      Thanks👍🤘

    • @dvsmike
      @dvsmike Рік тому +3

      Not all heroes wear capes. 🤘🤘

  • @tshouse2782
    @tshouse2782 Рік тому +112

    Ghost is an amazing band, who cares if they're considered metal or not. Their melodic sense sets them apart from everyone else. They rock, that's all that matters!

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW Рік тому +3

      King Diamond is better

    • @godetonter4764
      @godetonter4764 Рік тому

      As long as you don't have to look at them

    • @sadboi7537
      @sadboi7537 Рік тому

      @@PortugueseMACPOW Duh. No shit. King is the originator.

    • @MentaIPatient
      @MentaIPatient Рік тому +1

      @@PortugueseMACPOW You’re that person can’t stand to see other people enjoy anything. You have to go out of your way just to say something to try and make then less happy than they were. Your childish remarks that you go out of your way to make, is just pathetic. This is better than that, that is better than this yada yada yada. No one cares what or who you think is better.

    • @maddog7999
      @maddog7999 4 місяці тому

      dog water

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph Рік тому +14

    Asking if Ghost is a metal band (or "wannabe metal band") is like asking if Queen is. Neither of them are, yet there are elements of both bands that make them highly enjoyed and appreciated by a certain sector of the metal music community. We tend to hear rather heavy guitar sounds in music well outside of the traditional metal genres nowadays. For the record: I like Ghost, listen to them all the time.

    • @infernalstormrider
      @infernalstormrider Рік тому

      Well said. I listen everthing between Behemoth and Stray Cats if I like it. There is only one kind of music for me. If it's good , I listen. Living inside of box is not for me.

  • @titiand
    @titiand Рік тому +289

    Fortunately they are so good that it doesn’t matter what genre people think they are.

    • @Salmacis99
      @Salmacis99 Рік тому +20

      Totally agree- who cares where they fall into the Genre Game?? Their songs are catchy AF, some heavy some just fun rock and roll. So who cares? just enjoy it!

    • @samizdat113
      @samizdat113 Рік тому +3

      "Good"

    • @Salmacis99
      @Salmacis99 Рік тому

      @Blake hokahey They can't be pure shit if you're comparing them to The Beatles ;-)

    • @brians7604
      @brians7604 Рік тому +1

      trash

    • @titiand
      @titiand Рік тому

      @@brians7604 ua-cam.com/video/KCjYRd43tpw/v-deo.html

  • @hotdogsauce
    @hotdogsauce Рік тому +60

    the power of the riff compels you

  • @SuicidalGrind
    @SuicidalGrind Рік тому +48

    I'd say it's the way Metal has been distorted as a term in the recent years, if this released at the same time as Priest in the late 70's it would 100% be considered Metal. And that's the sort of vibe they're going for I'd say, a more classical form of Metal but with some twists that still make them stand out from the masses.
    Trust me, the first time I heard Ghost I felt disappointed, like it wasn't enough, but over time it's grown on me and I've come to realize that the whole way people think about "Metal" when calling these guys not Metal is ignorant to the fact that the whole genre of Metal has such a huge spectrum of different sounds of which definitely this fits into.
    Moral of the story is: You're allowed to not like the songs, but don't say something isn't what it's meant to be just based on that alone.

  • @CarnorJast1138
    @CarnorJast1138 Рік тому +11

    Ghost is not Metal Only, or a "wanna be" Metal Band. They are whatever their music and songs are at the time. They can be and are any genre they want to be. Ghost is just.....Ghost.

  • @magnusemeritus
    @magnusemeritus Рік тому +16

    Ghost is my jam! I love Papa! Real metal?Yeah sure! Lots of heavy doomy riffs in songs like Cirice, Death Knell and Pinnacle. Even the more poppy stuff reminds me of 80s BOC and various hair metal bands! Ghost really sounds like the rock and metal bands from the 70s and 80s. Tobias even has a bit of Sabbath in the bonus track La Mantra Mori. It is Dirty Women by Black Sabbath! Ghost is totally metal!

  • @emivalx
    @emivalx Рік тому +109

    Ghost are definitely a metal band. Their sound is just more in line with classic metal bands circa 1970 and pre-glam 80s metal than the majority of bands today. Not every metal song has to have the cookie monster on it.

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 Рік тому +23

      Exactly. The people of today who complain that they aren’t metal are the same people that listen to the new wave of 00010001101100 and growling (which isn’t bad) and then compare it to this. Of course they aren’t the same. They remind me more of Black Sabbath and old metal like that. It’s definitely metal, but not modern metal. Their new album is more like 80s hair metal though

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW Рік тому +3

      Mercyful Fate is 10 times the band Ghost will ever be

    • @widgetfilms
      @widgetfilms Рік тому +18

      @@PortugueseMACPOW I've noticed that you keep name dropping that band while attacking other people's musical tastes. It's shockingly immature. Let people enjoy things, and enjoy what you like. You'll be happier, I promise.

    • @PortugueseMACPOW
      @PortugueseMACPOW Рік тому

      @@widgetfilms I don't need your advice, I have Andrew Tate!

    • @Thiccalus
      @Thiccalus Рік тому +3

      Mercyful Fate is awesome. I also like ghost. Lighten up dude.

  • @chicodimdim3025
    @chicodimdim3025 Рік тому +9

    I usually watch your videos on music theory, but seeing you react to Ghost is a treat.

  • @IRanOutOfPhrases
    @IRanOutOfPhrases Рік тому +5

    Getting caught up in the genre game is a good way to exclude yourself from liking music

  • @metatron333ascension
    @metatron333ascension Рік тому +54

    Cirice is like doom metal. Cirice means church but Circe is a sorceress. the girl in the video reminds me a little bit of Carrie where she has some kind of powers. Their songs usually dont catch on at first then by the first minute you are banging your head by the end you are usually singing the chorus lol. their songs are so catchy its hard not to like.

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension Рік тому +13

      there are certainly some songs that are pop but the older ghost songs are more doom metal. slow and heavy a little bit of blue oyster cult mixed in with mercyful fate. i know as far as musicality they are very rich in that department. listen to their songs on another instrument. there are alot of piano renditions of their songs and they stand alone without any lyrics on piano. that's how well written the songs are.

    • @Giantcaterpillar
      @Giantcaterpillar Рік тому +4

      also, they are killing it LIVE. Great band to watch even if your are not sure :)

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension Рік тому +3

      @@Giantcaterpillar ghost has it all together. the image, the musicallity, the song writting, the stage show. they are up for another grammy this year for "call me little sunshine" i hope they win again. They actually won a grammy for this song "Cirice"

    • @metatron333ascension
      @metatron333ascension Рік тому

      @@Giantcaterpillar i have yet to see them live. you can say that is...blasphemy lol i really want to see them live

    • @dive-bomb
      @dive-bomb Рік тому +1

      please don't insult doom metal like this

  • @LCRLive687
    @LCRLive687 Рік тому +30

    I love Ghost. Very unique band. Their debut album - Opus Eponymous is fictionally the most ideal beginning of metal music.

  • @latdamon3602
    @latdamon3602 Рік тому +6

    There's enough "real" metal bands around that you can go listen to if Ghost isn't "metal" enough for you. They're absolutely excellent the way they are, one of the very few mainstream rock acts worth a shit in the past decade or more.

  • @mr_corridor
    @mr_corridor Рік тому +2

    Ghost isn’t metal, and they don’t pretend to be. Tobias said it’s more 70s and 60s rock. They’re still a fantastic band.

  • @Chuckinator_85
    @Chuckinator_85 Рік тому +17

    I think Ghost is one of the few metal bands that have the balls to do what they want instead of what everyone says they should be. I think they're amazing and by how popular they are I'm not the only one either.

    • @uhdb_lickety05_cbas72
      @uhdb_lickety05_cbas72 Місяць тому

      Of course they should do what they want, same as anyone; but they're not metal!!

    • @Chuckinator_85
      @Chuckinator_85 Місяць тому

      @@uhdb_lickety05_cbas72 Ghost is Hard Rock and Heavy Metal. If you actually listened to old school Heavy Metal you'd know that. 😉

  • @sonountaleban
    @sonountaleban Рік тому +25

    They remind me a lot Blue Oyster Cult, which by the way the latter were considered already "heavy metal" at their time in the late '70s. Also their esoteric theme is close to Mercyful Fate stuff, thus this band is definitely metal.

    • @Siomir1969
      @Siomir1969 Рік тому +1

      Exactly.

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 Рік тому +1

      The joke that is ghost : is on the planet as MERCYFUL FATE- let alone belonging in the same sentence

    • @paveantelic7876
      @paveantelic7876 Рік тому +1

      occult rock in other words

    • @fernandosepulveda7297
      @fernandosepulveda7297 Рік тому +6

      @@mrmercedes8528 go cry some more

    • @atvena
      @atvena Рік тому

      Occult rock/proto metal

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho Рік тому +6

    Ghost... I'd say... classic metal. Like, Black Sabbath meets Blue Oyster Cult. Super melodic, but yeah, the aesthetic fits the metal sphere.
    Honestly, though, so many people are too caught up in the question of "are they metal?" instead of asking "are they GOOD?". And the answer to the latter is HELL YEAH.

    • @atvena
      @atvena Рік тому

      Occult rock/proto metal

  • @jozefdebeer9807
    @jozefdebeer9807 Рік тому +10

    I agree that Ghost is like a continuation of Bowie, Cooper, Manson etc. This song is definitely metal. A dark riff, that would hold up along side Black Sabbath riffs. Clear vocals are acceptable in metal, Bruce Dickinson and Ozzy Ozbourne exist. I have heard other Ghost songs that aren't metal, but really well done hard rock.
    While not commonly done, there is no reason that a band can do some songs that are metal and some that are definitely not metal.

    • @atvena
      @atvena Рік тому

      Shock rock

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Рік тому +5

    I am impressed you got the meaning and underlying sinister intent the first time. That’s half the fun of Ghost.

  • @quentinrozhenko8321
    @quentinrozhenko8321 Рік тому +5

    In 1975 my brother was babysitting me on a Friday night. He went outside at around 11pm to connect our bass boat to the truck for a fishing trip the next morning. He came running back inside in a panic, told me to hide, grabbed a shotgun, and ran back outside.
    After a little while he came back inside and got me. We went outside and about 300 yards away there was a glowing blue metallic ball above some trees. It would zip back and forth then go down and out of sight in a T pattern. It appeared to be about 15 feet in diameter more or less.
    He called a friend of his nearby and told him to get a gun and camera ready and we were coming to get him. As soon as we pulled out on the road this thing instantly zipped over and was right above the truck about 20 feet above us. The engine died so we couldn`t drive away. He shoved me down into the floor of the truck and got out and aimed the gun at it. It instantly zipped straight up into the sky and vanished.
    Nobody answered the door at his friend`s house so we left. We ran into another guy he knew after going down the road closer to where we`d seen it hovering over the trees. The time should have been no later than 15 minutes after midnight but the guy told us it was after 3am.
    In 1999 I was fishing at night around 11pm on the Louisiana side of the Sabine river. I was just checking a catfishing spot in a bay beside the river with rods because the water was rising and the catfish usually start biting in that area when the river rises. I had planned to get back to the boat dock in our yard before midnight because a TV show I planned to watch was coming on. If the catfish were biting I planned to put out trotlines and hoop nets the next day to catch fish to sell.
    Right after I tied the boat up and threw out my rods two huge rectangle shaped things way bigger than mobile homes appeared in a cow pasture down the river. They were flying (more like floating) along some power lines,one on either side, and slowly coming towards me. Each of them had four squares of soft yellowish/white light on the front that covered the entire front except for black borders around them.
    I turned off my light and reeled in my rods, cranked the motor, and started puttering as fast as I could safely go in the dark towards a canal leading back to our boat dock. I had to go towards these things which were slowly coming towards me so I was about to panic. One started going up and the other down as the four square panels of light began to turn into squares inside squares until they became very bright and pretty brilliant sparkling dots of multicolored lights. Then they blinked off and vanished. They never made any sounds. I remember on the way out there while in the canal seeing a very quick flash of colors to my right through the fog in the trees but it was dim and I assumed it came from a spotlight beam on the other side of the island.
    When I reached the boat dock only minutes later my girlfriend was standing there looking very upset. She told me it was after 5am. It should have been just after 11pm. I never went fishing out there again and I normally fished several times a week.
    This encounter left me with a feeling of dread I can`t explain because what I saw was beautiful. I`m actually afraid to go camping alone and have never gone fishing alone at night since. The frustration of wondering but not knowing what happened to me is intense and has only increased over time.
    We see countless crazy stories like this on the internet and if only 10% of them are true then our current "understanding" of science and physics is very wrong. I suspect that government officials do understand many science and physics "mysteries" far more than they admit and have hidden many wonderful discoveries that could explain a lot of these bizarre experiences people keep reporting because terrorists could use this knowledge to do great harm.
    I`ve seen a lot more that this and there are mutiple types. I`ve seen extremely bright golden orbs go all the way across the daytime sky much faster than the Space Shuttles I`ve seen pass over to land in Florida. I`ve seen the very large triangles slowly pass over that had a fog or plasma glow around them. Most of the ones I`ve seen were white orbs, usually in groups. I`m disgusted by how most scientists respond to my questions about these things. Thank God this man isn`t like that!

    • @dnr415
      @dnr415 Рік тому +2

      So...........do you think Ghost is metal or no?

    • @dnr415
      @dnr415 Рік тому

      @@SHREDMASTERSCOTT-- I dont know what you mean about winning a prize??

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 Рік тому +6

    They just won AMA 2022 Best Rock Album and put on a Hell of a show. Saw them in September.. They are more 80's Hard Rock which is when I grew up..

  • @trentonmcintyre5617
    @trentonmcintyre5617 Рік тому +15

    It’s hard to call them strictly a metal band but they do have some metal-adjacent songs, cirice being a good example. As someone who mostly likes heavier shit I think ghost is decent, no more gimmicky than black metal bands anyway

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 Рік тому +7

      I think that they are a metal band at heart, but they experiment

    • @trentonmcintyre5617
      @trentonmcintyre5617 Рік тому +1

      I agree, I’m not a huge ghost fan but I respect what they’re doing but most metalheads hate on them for no reason other than the fact that they dislike them

  • @CTGDesigner
    @CTGDesigner Рік тому +4

    This best part of this review is Shred's video performance from back in this early days. Lol. Omg...that's hilarious Shred!! 😁🤘😂

  • @MikeysMorgue
    @MikeysMorgue Рік тому +41

    I love Ghost! Their latest album IMPERA is a masterpiece! Tobias Forge is brilliant!

  • @belgomez96
    @belgomez96 9 місяців тому +2

    Post twist: they are so good that no one cares if it's metal or not. Actually, Tobias Forge defines it as Hard Rock

  • @BrandonKBills
    @BrandonKBills Рік тому +5

    They’re taking heavy metal back to its roots. It may not seem heavy now but if you dive into the lyrics and the lore of the band and don’t think they’re metal, you’re out of your mind.

  • @Kreighouston
    @Kreighouston Рік тому +12

    Love this band. They are very focused on their approach to music.

    • @robertwalker3357
      @robertwalker3357 Рік тому

      Ghost suck, slayer now they are metal

    • @Kreighouston
      @Kreighouston Рік тому

      @@robertwalker3357 no Ghost doesn’t suck. They are relative and very talented. I liked Slayer in the day. But now they suck because they are not relative. Oh wait, they have retired! 🤦‍♂️

    • @atvena
      @atvena Рік тому +3

      @@robertwalker3357 so unless it's metal it sucks? Dude you must not be a musician then

    • @Joe.888
      @Joe.888 Рік тому +1

      ​@@robertwalker3357 you're an edgy little ray of sunshine aren't you

  • @Siomir1969
    @Siomir1969 Рік тому +2

    Dude. Well done. I agree about mood playing a large role in one's choice of music at a given time. Is Ghost 'metal'? I dunno... metal used to be about embracing individuality, channeling aggression, strangeness and other shit that 'mainstream' people shied away from. Was Black Sabbath metal? Various Ghost songs remind me of Sabbath (and BOC, as another comment mentioned) tbh. You wore a Priest hat in the video, and there are quite a few Priest tunes that simply wouldn't fit in whatever 'modern' interpretation of 'metal' some people seem to have. Screw that. We have many flavors, one for every mood. From screaming riffs that make your ears bleed to dark and contemplative moments, from head-banging slam-dances to lyrics that send your brain on a trip. That... is Metal.
    Thanks for the awesome videos, man. From an old metal head who's fingers are too damned arthritic to keep up with many of your lessons. Keep it up!

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 Рік тому +1

      Personally I like ghost more than any modern metal band today. I feel like ghost channels what made sabbath and preist great and changes it slightly. Personally I love it

    • @the_seer_0421
      @the_seer_0421 Рік тому

      Wow, an educated and well thought out comment. I never thought I'd see that in this comment section.

  • @tonaholcomb8602
    @tonaholcomb8602 Рік тому +3

    I think they started out pretty metal then expanded out and It works for them, listening to the first two albums and by the 3rd they expanded out and really went for it in the 4th. Seriously Dance Macabre is basically ABBA in metal form with a dark theme, and clever wordplay.

  • @kevinhenry68
    @kevinhenry68 Рік тому +16

    Ghost is just as "heavy" as 80s bands like Dio. But what do you consider metal? Screaming vocals? Dio didn't scream but was very metal. Shredding solos? Not every band uses them. Double kick drums? Those are stylistic choices that some metal bands utilize but not all. There are bands that ride the line between rock and metal musically and if I can't decide then I go to their look. Ghost definitely has a metal look and vibe. Still can't tell? Go to the lyrics. While rock bands are mostly concerned with the sex, drugs, and rock and roll thing, Ghost's lyrics are deeper. They delve into terrain usually only explored by metal bands. The music is melodic, not super aggressive, and catchy but definitely metal in my opinion. You may disagree and that's fine. Art is subjective. It's different for each person who hears it, sees it, reads it, etc.

    • @ziggybongwater7915
      @ziggybongwater7915 Рік тому +1

      well said.

    • @Siomir1969
      @Siomir1969 Рік тому +3

      Agreed. And considering metal is supposed to be individualistic, why in the HELL should all metal bands follow... yeah... gonna say it... the typical cliches? Screaming vocals, shredding solos, and double kick drums to snag three of those you named. Doesn't mean I do not love all of the above, but damn. If they were all the same, I would have lost interest decades ago.

    • @mat5267
      @mat5267 Рік тому +1

      You could argue that the lyrics are very cliche.

    • @kevinhenry68
      @kevinhenry68 Рік тому

      @@mat5267 sure. And aren't they all? Most metal bands are working with lyrical tropes that have been around for decades. Every other genre as well. The secret to any art is to do what others before you have done, but in a way that makes it your own.

  • @pinkfloyd70s1
    @pinkfloyd70s1 Рік тому +4

    As soon as vocals kick in im checked out, they dont match the feel of the song

    • @bobbyo5807
      @bobbyo5807 Рік тому +2

      Yea that pretty much is what ruins it for me and the music is-meh....ok I guess.I think these guys are a bit overrated but are successful so what do I know lol

    • @the_seer_0421
      @the_seer_0421 Рік тому

      Nah man. It's exactly the contrast between the that evil riff and the charming vocals that I like mostly about it. Not every song has to have harsh vocals you know...

  • @chrisryan7283
    @chrisryan7283 Рік тому +1

    "Yeah, those were difficult times." Haha! That family reunion looked painful.

  • @fransnilsson7333
    @fransnilsson7333 Рік тому

    Would love to listen to your Songs..what label are they on ? :)

  • @fatimapalacios2292
    @fatimapalacios2292 Рік тому +3

    Ghost is a great rock band. I don't like to lock them in a genre, in fact I don't think they want to be in a specific music genre either. However I like them a lot!

  • @MentaIPatient
    @MentaIPatient Рік тому +4

    Let us know when you make it to their level of success with your “metal band” 👍

  • @timshady7099
    @timshady7099 Рік тому +1

    When I hear this song, its so dark and the buildup to the chorus seems like its gonna be really dark and then your hit with "feel the rumble in your heart" and I just feel slightly let down. Love the video though, and I think they're a great band.

  • @TrapHouseZombie
    @TrapHouseZombie Рік тому +4

    They might not be Heavy metal but they are definitely a sub-genre of Metal and they seem to be very good at what they do.

  • @rolsen1304
    @rolsen1304 Рік тому +3

    There's more depth to you Shred then I have seen before. I like seeing that side of you.

  • @theconcerned
    @theconcerned Рік тому +5

    it's Dance Metal...

  • @1683clifton
    @1683clifton Рік тому +1

    If your family makes you feel shitty for shredding, you get a new family! I'm there Shredmaster Scott! Dont let your dreams be dreams

  • @DougRG
    @DougRG Рік тому +1

    That family reunion footage was incredible.

  • @orderofperplexity7805
    @orderofperplexity7805 Рік тому +4

    Our Band here is more black metal then they would ever be. Also ghost is very boring.

  • @chairmankaga101
    @chairmankaga101 Рік тому +2

    Metal is a spectrum. More importantly the band (well, Tobias) writes cool songs with lots of atmosphere and sonic nuance.

  • @quickscopeoneeighty9158
    @quickscopeoneeighty9158 Рік тому +5

    Sir Reece = Cirice

  • @maxflow151
    @maxflow151 Рік тому +1

    "yeah, those were difficult times" got real a second there. I could hear it.

  • @eoghanwalsh7569
    @eoghanwalsh7569 Рік тому +4

    Songs like this are definitely metal, just more in line with Sabbath than today's standards. Their image, themes, and dark sound are very much metal, even though they don't have pig squeals and 8 string riffs

  • @jabberdouche
    @jabberdouche Рік тому

    Did the beginning of this song sound kinda like South of Heaven, or was I just a bit high?

  • @stephenhensley5631
    @stephenhensley5631 Рік тому

    Sorry what I said below, but I dig listening to your break down of music and bands .

  • @johnnytmcq
    @johnnytmcq Рік тому +9

    I'd say that they're like Metal infused prog. Whatever they are, I've been warming up to them recently.
    If you go in expecting metal, you will probably be disappointed. But if you go into it expecting just some cool music, then I think they definitely have something to offer.

    • @Geetarman69420
      @Geetarman69420 Рік тому +2

      If you go in expecting modern* metal. They are definitely inspired by old bands like sabbath, preist, maiden that type of stuff. I really enjoy them because I feel like the modern metal of today isn’t really the best. To me it just feels like they are reviving the music that I really enjoy

  • @PinoyChillingVisionsStories
    @PinoyChillingVisionsStories Рік тому +2

    I hate those people who are purist.We just have to be thankful that there's still a new rock band who is still making their songs in the airwaves.

  • @sphynx108
    @sphynx108 Рік тому +6

    I personally think that ghost is a heavy metal band, like Black Sabbath. I hear a lot of Tony and Ozzy in their song.

  • @-marino2782
    @-marino2782 Рік тому

    Dude that family reunion footage had me rollin,, hilarious

  • @hotdogsauce
    @hotdogsauce Рік тому +1

    i hit the like for your family reunion clip, shred. lol, so at least one like had nothing to do with ghost.😂

  • @moonfiredawn666
    @moonfiredawn666 Рік тому +2

    I love ghost but I remember when bands like coven and black widow were the dark sounds

  • @tomgiddens2963
    @tomgiddens2963 Рік тому +2

    Ghost is always getting a hard time from people about their music but, honestly, it doesn't matter to me either. I enjoy their sound. It's a welcome change from bands that sound too samey. At any rate, I think they're a great band.

  • @marcusberggren9241
    @marcusberggren9241 Рік тому +1

    the older stuff i'd consider metal, their newer stuff is everything and anything. It's a mix of this and that with a bit of something else sprinkled on top. you can hear influences from all kinds of past great metal and Rock bands from the 70s and 80s.

  • @dimebagmcgraw
    @dimebagmcgraw Рік тому +120

    If ghost is metal, then acdc is screamo

    • @Arigator2
      @Arigator2 Рік тому +2

      Oh no. Don't kick them out of a dying genre.

    • @coolguy4179
      @coolguy4179 Рік тому +22

      @@Arigator2 Funny thing is AC/DC isn't metal either. They are hard rock. They will even tell you they aren't heavy metal. Too much blues in what they do to be really considered along titans of metal like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden.

    • @Arigator2
      @Arigator2 Рік тому +9

      @@coolguy4179 who cares? That is gatekeeping nonsense. I like all kinds of music.
      I'm starting to believe that metal needs to die. It's full of the most toxic nonsense. I can't take anyone seriously who only likes one genre of music.

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 Рік тому +1

      WTF is screamo?

    • @mrmercedes8528
      @mrmercedes8528 Рік тому

      @@Arigator2: good for you : do you feel better ? No one cares about your feelings or if you take them seriously: I’m sure you have bigger problems: like finally moving out of mom’s basement

  • @PhoenixBird9000
    @PhoenixBird9000 11 місяців тому +1

    Let's see... Guitars? Check. Drums? Check. Vocals? Check. Dark lyrical content? Check. Sounds like metal to me. I'm not a Ghost fan, I can take or leave them, but their songs do contain all the classic elements found across the spectrum of Metal music. I think some people get too hung up on focusing on certain specific sub-genres. Not everything Metal today has to be Death Metal or Black Metal or Thrash Metal. To me, a "wannabe" Metal band would be a band that lacks the ability to play real music but plays at it just to cash in because that's what the record company tells them to do. If Ghost were using autotune and computers to make their sound and not playing real instruments or actually singing, and instead doing what the majority of "pop" stars are doing, then and only then would I be willing to level that accusation.

  • @wassupinlasvegas9735
    @wassupinlasvegas9735 Рік тому +2

    They don't have to worry about who their audience is at this point. It's not like they're struggling to fit in somewhere.

  • @anthonysoto2923
    @anthonysoto2923 7 місяців тому

    The problem with ghost is that their music is far too soft and tame for the look they have.

  • @jakewilliams5796
    @jakewilliams5796 Рік тому +8

    I grew up in the late 80s and I think Ghost is great they are just as metal as Sabbath or Maiden or Cooper, they have their own shtick and i'd totally see them live if they came to the PNW.

  • @glassmonkeyface8609
    @glassmonkeyface8609 Рік тому +1

    Don't care what self appointed Gatekeepers think about Ghost. They transcend genres and can write and play circles around other bands. Their music connects, is gaining an even bigger audience, which makes the haters even more mad, and it's great. I've been going to Ghost shows since before Cirice came out with the original band members and they keep growing and getting better.

  • @themasterjinn
    @themasterjinn 9 місяців тому +1

    The point is GHOST is the band they want to be, and strive not to be like any other band out there. Are they Metal? Yes!

  • @partyfrog3914
    @partyfrog3914 Рік тому

    The band consisted of currently
    Mountain- drummer
    Rain- bassist
    Sodo- lead guitar
    Aether- rythem guitar
    Swiss- multi mostly backup vocals
    Cirrus - also multi mostly keytar
    Cumulus -same as cirrus
    Sunshine- also multi
    Copia- leader/vocals
    Correct me if I’m wrong

  • @1472Ravean
    @1472Ravean 9 місяців тому +1

    Ghost is no wannabe metal band because they are no metal band and they never intended to be one. Metalheads get that part wrong because the thought that writing songs about hell, horror, evil and so on is entitled to the metal genre... I´m a musician myself and i prefere metal but ghost is no metal band and I really believe it´s not their intention to be considered a metal band. They´re great at what they´re doing and their music is brilliant... metal or not metal

  • @TheFallen292
    @TheFallen292 7 місяців тому

    Ghost is metal. But they’re a discount Mercyful Fate

  • @99proff
    @99proff 10 місяців тому +1

    Given Tobias' musical past and how easy it is to emulate a genre, do people actually think Ghost is trying to be metal and failling? If they're not more metal that is completely his choice. What's really hard is to come up with well crafted and interesting songs that create your own sound and vibe and in that Ghost has clearly succeded.

  • @briansmodelcarhobbyists9763
    @briansmodelcarhobbyists9763 Рік тому +2

    Me I don't think ghost is a real heavy metal band that's like saying Linkin Park is heavy metal

  • @jesusperdew9010
    @jesusperdew9010 Рік тому +1

    The cross in the music video I looked it up here’s the info. In Christianity, it is associated with the martyrdom of Peter the Apostle. The symbol originates from the Catholic tradition that when sentenced to death, Peter requested that his cross be upside down, as he felt unworthy of being crucified in the same manner as Jesus. Found resources was safari

  • @ebenezerspludge8369
    @ebenezerspludge8369 Рік тому +1

    After thinking about it, Put the girl with the hula hoop back on because she won the talent show. Completely outclassed this band.

  • @larsthesing8015
    @larsthesing8015 Рік тому +6

    They mix many musical influences and do it great. And metal is the vein .
    Tobias Forge is a Metalhead through and through.

  • @dg3258
    @dg3258 Рік тому

    What's the definition of Metal? 🤔

  • @SirDingle
    @SirDingle Рік тому

    i was front row at a ghost concert and when they performed cirice, he grabbed the girls hand that was standing right next to me just like in the video and it was awesome

  • @jesusperdew9010
    @jesusperdew9010 Рік тому +1

    What song did u play in ur family reunion

  • @WolfOfLosAngeles
    @WolfOfLosAngeles Рік тому +2

    In think ghost first album is their most dark and metal sounding

  • @dolarhyde
    @dolarhyde 9 місяців тому

    Robert van housen coming in with the most absolutely hilarious joke that I haven’t heard 10000000000 times. Anyway, good video and a fair criticism!

  • @ryangibbons8809
    @ryangibbons8809 Рік тому +1

    Love Ghost. I saw them open for Iron Maiden in 2017. Thier show was fantastic!! People can hate all they want. Ghost is unique and is clearly doing something right. Are they metal? Rock? Occult rock?
    Don't know, don't care!!
    🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @TheSuperSnake313
    @TheSuperSnake313 Рік тому +1

    I guess I live under a rock, I've never heard of Ghost. Ill say instrumentally, it's not bad. Not feeling the vocals tho. Was putting me to sleep until you played the 666 energy of old school Shred and Co 🤘🤘

  • @theconcerned
    @theconcerned Рік тому +4

    Behemoth would never cover Enter Sandman.

    • @tattoo5409
      @tattoo5409 Рік тому

      That's probably true. But Nergal did a side project with Tobias.

  • @MrCplChicken
    @MrCplChicken Рік тому

    Love the family reunion flashback. They were thrashing on the inside. LOL. Also, quite a big family.

  • @chart6454
    @chart6454 Рік тому +1

    They are what they are and aren’t asking permission to mix up genres. But they aren’t “wannabe” metal, as there is no sign they want to get metal. They want to make good, fun tunes and they succeed at that.

  • @sebastiandimase6830
    @sebastiandimase6830 Рік тому +1

    i was into it until lyrics started they remind me 2 much of a ironic attemt to make a edgy song. riff work was clean and the keyboard solo was rly interesting to hear how well it worked

  • @Tysandifer
    @Tysandifer Рік тому +1

    They could easily be a metal band, but they never give up that spooky rock vibe (which could be hard to pull off if strictly metal, I mean secular haze as a metal song wouldn't be the same)

    • @adrianfytr35
      @adrianfytr35 Рік тому

      My thought is that the spooky sound is what makes it metal lol. To each their own.🤘

  • @ZyXxOmAn
    @ZyXxOmAn 7 місяців тому

    I don't care what they are, they sound great and has a touch from the 70's 80's

  • @jimphilidor9031
    @jimphilidor9031 Рік тому +1

    I don't think they even label themselves as metal. I like that they have different kinds of influences. They might sound heavy at times but they also have this boybandish undertone. Their music sounds fresh.
    I loved the family reunion footage, lol.

    • @gombka1144
      @gombka1144 Рік тому

      I believe that in their first songs they were doing something like candlemass + blue oyster cult + abba with their own style on top

  • @quieja
    @quieja Рік тому

    Listen to Cirice in Meliora álbum. Are you telling me that sound is not metal? Or Respite in the spitalfield. Or even Twenties

  • @BA.77777
    @BA.77777 Рік тому +1

    Ghost is awesome theatricality. It’s derivative in so many ways, but so well done. Great melodies. I really enjoy them. As far as style goes, I find them to be more hard rock than metal.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC Рік тому +1

    people can say that Ghost isnt Metal and tbh, i dont give a dead moose's last shit, they are awesome and i'll happily check out anything new they release, i love gimmicks and Ghost puts on their best to entertain the masses.

  • @sprinkleddonuts6094
    @sprinkleddonuts6094 Рік тому

    This was their Play on Carrie, easy to miss when not paying attention

  • @LycanTroop3
    @LycanTroop3 Рік тому +1

    I almost wanna put them in the same room as Alice Cooper lol

  • @retroquest3579
    @retroquest3579 Рік тому +8

    Not a huge fan but they do have a few good songs. I think Little Sunshine is their catchiest toon, (especially the live Kimmel version) it's pretty melodic but dark.

    • @michaelblody3053
      @michaelblody3053 Рік тому +2

      The more you listen to them the more they grow on you and then you'll become a fan ! 🤘

  • @RockWonder210
    @RockWonder210 Рік тому

    Family reunion was hilarious. Why did no other member of the family pick up the drums or bass. 4 guitars?! What is this Maiden?!

  • @MrRoundthetwist
    @MrRoundthetwist Рік тому

    Ghost is ♥️
    This video title cuts deep I’ll give you a pass on this one cause you are 😎 and appreciating them at the end right on!
    (Comment edited after full watch)