Marine Reacts to Nazi, USA & Finnish Man Who Fought in 3 Wars. Fighting for Cause Not Country?
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Larry Thorne a Warrior throughout. Is this Warrior the Deadliest Man in History? 🔴👉🏻 ua-cam.com/video/TSuqS-2nltc/v-deo.html. More about SOG - ua-cam.com/video/rKFEZGjPNh0/v-deo.html. How about these guys - ua-cam.com/play/PLeU0ya-0QayS-brvicg-lsRXNxnJnAWYo.html. They think they are.
Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction more videos.
You have to think! We the watcher love to see you the ole salty marine get out of his confert zone and partake in things us youngsters participate in!! Lol keep it up man love the content!!
Should do LTC Roy Benevites or Vince Okimoto or both
Look at Leo Major
Finland had less than 4 million people before the ww2 began. Too littke to adopt the strategy of SSSR. The asimetrical warfare and improvisation had to be used to overpower a stronger adversary. That's why they had to go "behind enemy lines". The enemy had surrounded them, they were everywhere.
Imagine being the US Army drill instructor for this guy. Trying to teach a guy who has more experience that the whole unit combined.
Fr 😂😂
Miles how do you feel about Christian massacres of people during the crusades?
@@anonamus7404 how do you feel Islam killed Christians ?
Edwin Basa I feel sad when human beings treat each other that way at all, especially when they claim it’s in the name of god
@@anonamus7404 Don't comment when you don't know anything, learn history first.
Finland's last surviving knight of the Mannerheim Cross, Tuomas Gerdt, has died.
Thomas Gerdt was the last of the 191 knights to survive. Gerdt died on the morning of Sunday, November 1, 2020, at Oulunkylä Rehabilitation Hospital. He was 98 years old at the time of his death.
My name is Thomas Nikkila and I say RIP Brother! SISU!
God bless.
The movies about the Finnish war are super good.
@@thomasnikkola5600
Thanks for the comment Thomas Nikkila. Veterans of our Finnish wars are My idols, such as Lauri Törni and the last knight of the Mannerhein cross Tuomas Gerdt
“As the FIRST man, he rushed forward, destroying dozens of enemies with his submachine gun and hand grenades, always aiming for the worst and most decisive place. Ignoring the enemy's very severe fire, he carried the mortally wounded Captain Toffer to his shelter, then continued to fight briskly and bravely until he was wounded. ” the text is an excerpt from a daily order issued by headquarters in September 1942 announcing that Lt. Sergeant Tuomas Gerdt had been appointed Knight of the Mannerheim Cross. Tuomas Gerdt, who died on November 1, 2020, was the last surviving knight of the Mannerheim Cross. He will be buried on November 28 at Lepola Cemetery in Lappeenranta. At the same time, one chapter in the military history of independent Finland ends.
It is Honorable that you remember him and that you mentioned him here may his peace be eterna
In Sweden we stated that the Finnish cause is ours. My grand mothers brother fought for the finnish. He's name was Gösta Wallenberg. He wrote a diary which we may publish some day.
Publish it now, don't wait!!
Please do, before it's too late.
Please do. Please make sure we Americans can read it.
Can you tell us the title ir post the link in this comment section? ( idk if you want to publish a book or do it online etc.)
Please publish it !
as a Finn i smile ear to ear listening to Lauri's story. I don't care that he fought with the Nazi's, his intentions were purely to decimate the Reds wherever they popped up.. Communism almost broke Finland apart in a Civil War even before Russia invaded, causing Finnish brothers to kill each other over that disgusting ideology. Communism is so deeply hated in Finland for many good reasons. his actions were understandable. Any other politics were not of his interest, the enemy of his enemy was his friend.
Though around half of the finns who fought against the Soviet Union, were commies. My great grand father(born in 1900) was a communist and he fought from the beginning of the Winter War to the end of the Lapland war 1939-1945.
@@zenonelealainen3750 yes, but the point was we did not allow them to take government positions.. until we surrendered to russia then they all came back out of the woodwork again.
@ANZUS MAGA i mean, he wasn't wrong. look at the members of the 1st peoples commissariat. trotsky, aka bronstein. 1st leader of the red army and the man who lead the revolution.. was a jewish tailor from new york lol. as well as the revolution being funded by paul warburg.
@@seanprice7645 Though the communism in the 19th century and early 1900's was very much the ordinary peoples voice channel. From todays perspective the communism looks like madness, but it was a very different world in the 19th century. Ordinary people were basically cannon fodder and had no means to get a better position in their life. I actually believe that todays world is what it is because communism created a pressure to make capitalism better.
With the Soviet Union they eventually failed to make peoples lifes better. Eventually the working class was doing much better in the capitalist Europe than in the communist Europe... but much this development was probably due the pressure the communism created.
@@zenonelealainen3750 looking at it from a yin yan perspective; we have to understand that capitalism is based on competition in products leading to both better products and lower prices but in the absence of competition; communism is not to blame but a lack of competition is, aka oligopoly (not enough competition basically removes the nature of capitalism; not communism but also not capitalism; aka north america today) I say that because i fear people turn to communism because they blame capitalism; we can always hope
One thing is for sure, he deserves a movie
Matt Damon lol
Sabaton did a bitchen song about him: "Soldier of 3 Armies."
You can make movies about Wehrmacht soldiers, but making a movie centering on a SS officer isn't going to happen any time soon. Wehrmacht were standard soldiers, the SS was a political party.
12 episode of series would be nice
Hes have a movie.
The green barrets.That movie tells small peace of törni's life.
So basically this guy was a warrior who really hated commies. Good on him.
based
@@RED-jg6mt based and redpilled
@Goosecore based and goosepilled
@Goosecore by that logic hating the taliban or is means hating Islam.
@@RED-jg6mt defend Europe from reds virus
Shout, Lauri Törni's name
A soldier of three armies knows the game
Keeps their echo from the past
Rise from beyond your grave
Son of Finland and the Green Beret
May you rest in peace at last
Lauri Allan Törni
Cross of Mannerheim
An Iron Cross, A Bronze Star, Purple Heart,
One Distinguished Flying Cross...
Shout Lauri Torni's Name!
I see someone with great music taste ;)
First thing that popped into my mind seeing this video too
It have to mentioned here that only Germany helped the Finnish against the Soviets in the winter war. Not one other country lifted a finger in favor of the Finnish. A lot of Scandinavian volunteers came and fought alongside the Finnish, but not sent there through official channels.
That's just wrong. All over Scandinavia help was being collected and sent to Finland, as well as from many other countries.
@@martinflaisig1183 That was volunteers. Finns from The US also came to help, but as volunteers as well. Not sent by official channels as I have already written above.
@@SurvivalRussia isnt that how people get to fight in general? Volunteering?
@@jonathanhendrix2925 No. People join the military and get deployed by their government. In this case only Germany did so.
@@SurvivalRussia Germany did not officially deploy troops in the Finnish Winter War of 1939-1940. Yes, there were volunteers from different countries, Sweden and the UK as examples. Finland was allied with Germany during WW2 in what Finland knows as "The Continuation War" in 1941-1944, against the U.S.S.R. Finland was on its own during the Winter War.
In 1944 the future president of Finland, Mauno Koivisto, fought in Lauri Törnis unit.
vau
And there is some history/myth about an diplomatic incident in DC where some American at a diplomat dinner was saying that the US president (at the time) was Hard on the russians and the drunk finnish ambassador Said My president killed russians with His bare hands :p
@@yeahbee8237 OH MY GOD IS THERE A RECORDING OF THIS?! Cause I want to see that! It sounds frickin hilarious!
This man was a warrior.
Still is
Nah dude this guy was a fucking Nazi. Would be different if he were Wehrmacht but he volunteered for the fucking SS. Damn shame he was allowed to put a stain on America’s fighting force, regardless of how good he was.
Being a warrior is a title not defined by who you fight for. But how you fight.
@@andystrauss-reis7342 he was a warrior doesn't matter what country or side you were a warrior is still a warrior and he fought in three wars that's impressive and I respect that
Andy Strauss-Reis Larry Thorne joined the Wehrmacht because Germany is fighting the Russians but he didn’t know that they german army was forced and not was he expecting all he wanted was to fight the Russians that’s it he didn’t join the nazi because of massacre, the reason why he rose to ss is because of his rank from the Finnish army and how he could take leadership but anyways this was the exact reason why he joined and why he did it with out knowing anything including the Holocaust I do get what you are saying
I'm from Sweden. My grandfather fought in Finland from 1939-44 as a volunteer. I found it a honourable deed. The Soviets were the clear aggressors. The Soviet Union was a totalitarian state at the time (and later). Finland was the victim.
It's sad to say, but about 90-ish years later Ukraine finds itself in a modern day Winter War. Again, the Soviet Union (now Russia) is aggressively expanding into a nearby country that is much weaker than them, militarily speaking. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself and the world doesn't find itself in WW3.
Oh he was one of them of who fought whole the skitresa. Huge glory to your grandfather!!!
people in the comments calling him a racist nazi can't imagine what ww2 was like for lots of people
@ANZUS MAGA it's the same conspiracy bullshit Hitler preached.
@ANZUS MAGA Excuse me? The word conspiracy has existed hundreds of years, you paranoid clown. How shallow is your world-view?
@ANZUS MAGA Critical thinkers? How are you a free thinker when you spew your views just as dogmatically as those whom you hate?
johan 321 American apartheid came in the 60s.
There were no angels in WW2, but the S.S. were some of the most evil people in modern history... It a shame he go involved with them
"White death" was Simo Häyhä, Finnish sniper in Winter War. Best sniper in history.
best no scope sniper though
the best sniper would actually go to white feather
@@rlchamp7019 i think both are best becouse White death was is ww2 with freezing conditions and old rifle with iron sigths and white feather war in Vietnam war with better eguipment and camoflyge but he is in jungle that has its own proplems but anyway both are DEADLY
@@seal7216 well yeah but if it was a battle for the best sniper it would actually be White feather since he has the scope giving him a better advantage, but remember White Death was facing piles and groups of Russian soldiers during the winter war meaning he could've shot anywhere and still hit a Russian with or without accuracy.
To clarify to all my peeps commenting I already know the history of White Death and White Feather.
@@rlchamp7019 u are right
Larry Thorne was a legend in the Greet Beret community. He's also the only Waffen-SS veteran buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
It’s crazy for someone to say a Nazi to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery, but Larry Thorne is a legend.
@@vitogeraci7146 What a great story, and interesting piece of history. He truly was a warrior, regardless of who he fought for.
@@vitogeraci7146 He was NO nazi!
@@waffen80 agreed! He was NEVER a member of the party. He just hated communists!
German Soldier and a Nazi are two different things.
Response to "Now how do you know that's a friendly shrapnel mine?": The Finns have the most extensive cataloging of mine placements since the beginning of the Winter War; each and every piece of ordinance has been painstakingly noted down. Not on public record during wartime obviously, but the idea is that it's your own land you're laying traps in... It will return to civilian life eventually and will need to be disarmed properly (unless its right at the border, and even there, ehhhh....). Hence the outrage in some circles for the participation in the 2012 Ottawa land-mine prohibition act... Why deny a perfectly good, most astoundingly cost-effective defense system if you're one of the only countries in the world using them "responsibly"?
Exactly. As long as you know what area the mines are in and how many you've got buried in that area, everything can be accounted for. Each time a mine is triggered, cross one off of the inventory. If that area is converted to a civilian populace, you know how many to look for and disarm. That's what I would call topnotch responsibility.
This dude has a lot of unnecessary comments I think because it’s a cartoon lol
@@Raiden6277 not just an "area" of mines.
Each mine is documented from the nearest one to the edge of a minefield by centimeter distance accuracy and 1 degrees direction accuracy to the last.
4 copies of the mine map has to be made for each minefield.
One big strategic area denial/delaying mine laying area might have 10 of these smaller minefields as part of the whole.
It was really "fun" to make these copies by hand in the middle of the night in a wet tent surrounded by 20 smelly dudes.
@@Turinnn1 now that's what I call responsible mine placements.
During WW2, Larry Thorne once escaped from a military hospital in which he was recovering. He did this not to avoid fighting, but to make his way back to the front.
Golly, this guy made Rambo look like a total wuss.
If the Waffen SS names an elite unit after you you're pretty much getting the Uber Badass award. This dude was a warlord.
Heh. “Uber.” I see what you did there.
Ryan padron Uber’s a German word meaning “super”.
@@roderickstockdale1678 mhmm. That’s what I was hinting at😂
Ryan padron I shoulda known. Just checking lol.
@@roderickstockdale1678 nah bro, it’s all good. I’m just happy that someone understood my bad humor😂
"Törni. The wars over"
"Im not done yet"
Gold
We know who that man was, Simo Häyhä. The only sniper with the most confirmed kills than any sniper of today. And Sabaton made a Metal song for him. 🤘
...HELL YES!!
Sabator makes for everything a song...I wrote this for a friend^^
Oh no I don’t listen to power metal I respect your taste but Bolt Thrower is where it’s at Ik there might not be a specific song about him but they are war
542 confirmed kills. Source: "The White Sniper: Simo Häyhä", Tapio A. M. Saarelainen, 2016.
Can we talk about the dude using no scope?
In Finland we have this thing called “sisu “, it’s something you need when you have to jump from a ship on swim to the shore or fight against enemy 20 times bigger than you 💪
It means 'guts'.
I gues it translates into "Balls of Titanium" in english.
LT: "We need to maintain this position, do you understand?"
Soldier: *speaks Swedish*
LT: *punches him*
Soldier: "Yes sir, perfect Swedish sir."
Hurri! Ammu! Ryssä!
**vague pointing and punching**
@@JohnDoe-ro4nf that's too funny. Underrated comment
*Swedish Noises*
Bla bla köttbullar 😌
I dont get it haha
im swedish and i dont have anything but hate and disgust for the russian leadership and army but i dont hate the ppl of russia
Since the channel I have learned a lot about your area in particular the Swedish hatred of Russia for good reasons. Heard there was some activity recently associated with it.
The leadership were largely...not Russian.
@@JamesonsTravels Sweden has always had Finns to fight wars - georaphical and historical advantage of being an old 'Superpower'....times change.
Yeap, the issue with Russia is almost always in the leadership, not the people. I kind of feel sorry for the people since they usually are the primary victims of their leadership.
As a finnish I can relate to this hatred towards goverment of russia, but the people are mostly OK.
*SUOMI PERKELE*
But seriously, this guy was incredible, the embodiment of *SISU.*
I heard about Larry Thorne years ago from a family of Finnish tourists whom I met at the Vietnam Memorial in DC. He is a great national hero in Finland.
My father was an artilleryman in the Finnish Army during the Continuation War. Lauri's unit was briefly encamped near my father's unit and my father told me that Lauri's men loved to fight and were wild for war. Here in the U.S. my father was a member of the Finnish War Veterans in America. One of the old guys in his chapter in New York State told me about how Lauri worked as a carpenter in Brooklyn in the early 1950s right after coming to the U.S. and before joining the U.S. Army. One night he and Lauri and some other Finns went drinking at a bar in Harlem and...well, I'll leave out the politically-incorrect details about why the ensuing fight began, but suffice it to say that fists flew, furniture was smashed, the Finns won the fight and continued drinking at that bar afterwards. One very big regret that I have is that I was invited to attend Lauri's funeral at Arlington National Cemetery but I decided to not go for some stupid reason that I can't even remember now - oh hell, I should have gone, and I'll regret not going for the rest of my life. Oh by the way, Lauri's mother came from my Kosonen extended family.
good story, thanks for sharing
@Faravid Kaukomieli Aivan niin! Sellaista se on. You forgot to mention that after drinking all night these Finns will go to work the next morning, if it's a work day, as if nothing happened.
@@roykosonen1734 tip top eh. Don’t go gettin the brown bottle fever if you’re not man enough to take of your responsibilities (work)’
Maybe they used nigger word? It was taught as a letter " n = nigger" in schools even 80' in Finland.
@@petskup4 Yes they used this word. Alright, I'll tell the story that the old Finn told me, and I hope that this won't cause problems with UA-cam: he told me that at the time when Lasse and the other Finns were drinking in that bar, Lasse (Lauri) didn't yet understand any English. The other Finns played a dirty trick on him by telling him that the sentence "You [n-word, plural] are pussies" is a compliment - so Lasse went up to some Black customers in the bar and said those words to them, and this caused the fight.
Our Estonian boys fought among SS just because soviets killed their parents and took their brothers. It was about revenge not because they were nazis.
Why were their parents killed? Maybe they did something wrong.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t Yes, they were breathing, so commies killed them, Finns helped to defend Estonians in 1918 for their independence from the red scourge of communist Russia as the saying goes better dead than red.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t Everyone who wanted independent Estonia were killed or sent to gulag no matter the age or condition and 90% didn’t make it back. Ten of thousands died so it’s basically holocaust but by the winners so we don’t talk about it.
@@mlook6348 oh well
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t because Estonia isn't your country to to influence and colonize.
Back then anti communists were fighting each other. Let's hope that that never happens again.
Lol wut
I think he means the western Allies and Axis.
Yeah people demonize germany while the communists were way worse. It was not the germans who did what the nazis did it was the small minority of the ss who did what they did. The communists were far more wide spread and acctually fought for communism and oppression of even themselves. The germans fought for germany they had no idea the nazis were evil. But school does not teach people this.
Well, the Nazis were fascists, so the Allies were good to fight them.
Wtf is this comment
I knew a Finn who fought in that war. The stories he told me were mostly about the cold, the hunger, the LONG winter nights. When it came to combat, he never said anything except, "you don't want to ever be there". My dad also fought the Nazis in Europe for Canada. Never talked about combat, just the periods in between.
What a Chad. This man belongs in Valhalla with all the other legendary warriors ever exist.
Love Larry. In Valhalla I will drink a pint with him.
@@JamesonsTravels aye cheers to that bruv
finno-ugric people dont believe in Valhalla, thats Scandinavian mythology
Chads are the best.
@@0mgskillz96 no one belives. They just joking.
I get the feeling he really disliked communists.
Anything related to soviets and Russians he disliked
He disliked outsiders controlling his land. It's the same for people who sided with the communists in other places; they weren't necessarily communists. Batista was such a brutal dictator that Castro of all people was better.
You don't say
@@commentingisawasteoftime7195 history is replete with people stuck between a tock and a hard place, and choosing what they see as the lesser evil. WWII is no different. dont know why some people have a hard time understanding this concept.
Yaaaaa thinkk
As a Finn, I do have some Russian friends and enjoy their company and good banter. What I don't like is their leaders and how they are handling their countries business, also high income discrepancy. My grandfather also received one of the highest honours white rose-medal for carrying a wounded soldier on his back for 2 weeks after getting stranded behind enemy lines (I know you hate the term), while most of his company was destroyed or wounded. He had to use his orientation skills to get back home and survived on picking berries. We just had our independence day celebration last Sunday, so 'Hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää' (=Happy independence day in Finnish)!
After two years have you kept touch of them?
Four my relatives fought both winter and contention war. Two was MIA, third died in his sleep after the war. The forth he revised 2 class bravery, sign under by Mannerheim. He lost his left arm due to an grenade shrapnel. He lived until to the 1980s. He gave me one advise in life: "never ever give up".
Your family have give lot for our Finland...
@@ralepej Yes and we'll do it again, because we're karelians. We'll fight to the death.
there was a korean who fought for the japanese, nazis and the soviets named Yang Kyoungjong
Wow. I cannot imagine the transitions between each military.
@@JamesonsTravels should look into it would make a great review, was a decient movie made about him as well the movie is Titled "My Way" is prolly sub titles or dub but is no doubt a interesting journey for a man
The difference is he was forced to by the Japanese then captured and forced by the soviets then once again by the germans and finally on D-day captured by the Allies
@@JamesonsTravels he fought against the Russian for japan army because japan colonized Korea. he was made a prisoners then fought for the Russian as a canon fodder was captured by German who where japan allies during WW2 so they enlisted him because of that. when the US took the beach of Normandy he told them he was a Korean because Korea was freed from japan colonialism he was released because he was no enemy....sorry for the length hope you'll get what I meant
Wasn’t that a a movie or something similar I forget the movie name.
Simo Hayha "The White Death" was a Finnish sniper who is thought to have killed over 500 Soviet soldiers. He did this all with an unscoped bolt action rifle. During the war he took a anti tank round from a rifle to the face and survived. I think that is the man you were referring to earlier in the video.
An HE round too. Damn lucky
You’re in the snipers sight
the first kill tonight
Time to die
You’re in the bullets way
The White Death’s prey
Say goodbye!
@@Shortfuse39 If there's a history video about it, or sometimes not even then, there's still a Sabaton song about it! 🤘😁🍺
It's debated whether he took a regular rifle round, an explosive round or even shrapnel to the face but according to his own words it was an explosive round, apparently from close range as well. An explosive round in this case wouldn't be an anti tank or a HE round though, that's a little bit of a stretch. It's still to all intents and purposes a rifle round.
I don't care what kind of round it was, he was one tough SOB. I took a pistol round to the chest and I'll tell you, it definitely put a crimp in my plans and style. I have absolute respect for Hayha and Torni.
Thorne`s access to U.S military was helped by other Finnish soldiers who were commissioned there: Marttinen, Alakulppi, Havola etc all holding ranks from lt to major. All had fled to U.S after the war for being pursued by Soviet Union for their previous roles in fighting. All became rather well known and some reached the rank of colonel. Havola was the founder of U.S. army arctic warfare training.
As a Swede, the Soviet army attacked Finland unprovoked and the Russians still refuse to give back territory they occupied. They are still occupiers.
I for one, and many Swedes with me will stand with the Fins, they have proven themselves and we don't doubt that they will ever surrender without a fight. And we will be there in greater numbers than before to support them
Can't blame him, I hate Commies to. Grew up in West Germany, Father was a medic in the Canadian Army.
Sadly we got them in America called Democratic party.
@@773superprguy Sadly we also got a hitler in power.
@@theebrock834 "A Hitler"... man these Hitlers are everywhere aren't they?
Is Hitler in the room right now?
@@theebrock834 dude fuck off im not going to even talk about how stupid and disrespectful to call someone that.
I wouldn't compare any Americans to Soviets or Nazi's. Both sides are wrong.
Have an uncle who fought in 3 wars WW II KOREA and Vietnam. Retired an E 9 US Army.Still alive today living in Yuma.
all my ancestors who fought in WW1 and WW2 are dead. I can only hear some stories from my grandmothers who are really old as well and from my father who remembers stories more clearly and payed more attention to military details. You are lucky to be able to talk with him.
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 I've been blessed with being able to speak to vets. My father had a friend who was part of the Bataan death march.
Hell yeah
@@ProfShibe My family has been through a lot of American wars, Revolutionary War, War of 1812, WW1, WW2, Korean War, and the latest Vietnam. One of my family members even got a letter of thanks from George Washington thanking him for letting him and his staff come into his house and using as Washington's HQ
I had a college friend whose dad had served on UDT teams during WW2 and Korea and as a SEAL in Vietnam, retired as a commodore. One of the nicest men I've ever met. Also was the hands-down winner of an informal "dangerous dad" contest held amongst those of us who also had "career military" father's because he was also the only one who had actually killed an enemy soldier in hand-to-hand combat. Japanese soldier bayoneted him, but he waded in and broke the guy's neck. Badass☠️☠️☠️☠️🏴☠️
The Germans had a name for the main battle line: Die Hauptkampflinie (HKL). So why should the therm line be wrong?
Simo Häyhä a.k.a the white death had around 500 confirmed kills and survived a HE rifle round to the jaw. One bad ass dude.
I think that was a pistol round. Might be wrong though.
505 with rifle, 202 with smg
@@paogene1288 I’m not aware of any pistol rounds from the period with HE fillers. But I know heavy machine guns and anti-material rifles we’re equipped with them.
try to hit 1476 ft shots in extreme cold weather and actually hit targets only using ironsights and then let me know if is easy and more closer number i think he told it was 350-360 ish for using huntingrifle(pystykorva) and the rest was using smg in his diary of entries that was isissued.. but if u are that NA that thinks u are best anyways for in everything u might shock one day..anyways much love.. :)
@@AVR-xw3fq mosin nagant standard issue rifle of the period had explosive rounds there is a video with the forgotten weapons dude who tries them out of a balistic yell its fucking insane that simo survived that
This guys sounds like a precision weapon. Razor sharp focus on the mission and his duty. I bet if he lived today, he'd make one helluva tier 1 guy. Doesn't matter the unit.
If he lived today he would not be ua-cam.com/video/41unYX_2oNs/v-deo.html. Definitely not one of them.
@@JamesonsTravels He'd eat those soy drinking girly boys for breakfast. And there wouldn't be seconds left over.
He's more of a SAD/SCS kinda guy, I think we can agree that both the CIA and NSA would take great intrest in a man with this much skill and perseverence.
He was a SOG for cried out loud!
Hes the real life John Rambo. Anywhere he goes combat and war follows
I think Roy Benavidez is much more fitting as the real life John Rambo.
Awesome Work Man!!👍👍 Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸🇫🇮🇺🇸
Rule #1: don’t invade Finland. Just ask the Russians....
Nice "Christmas Trees" tho (posed frozen Russian bodies)...really captures the spirit of the season, lols...
@Arizona ranger with a colt 1848 dragoon revolver
Technically the Finns never agreed to actually surrender/only to Russia's peace terms, but that's a bit of semantics, really.
One Russian General claimed they'd won "just enough land to bury their dead."~
@@blemishednicely8402 whose death?
@@einolappi1824
The dead Russian soldiers from that war was who the Russian General was talking about (in regards to having taken just enough land to bury them)...
...essentially it was the epitome of a hollow victory~
rule #2: first learn rule #1.
Himmler had pestered Mannerheim for a long time to allow Finns to serve in the Waffen SS. Mannerheim finally relented when Himmler agreed that the Finnish units would NEVER engage any Western forces, only Soviet ones. Finnish Waffen units served in multiple areas of the eastern front and never were involved in the war crimes committed by the SS Einsatzgruppen. Toward the end of the war when the Finnish Waffen SS were disbanded, Himmler gave the Finnish division a unit citation for bravery.
I personally doubt the statement that they never commited atrocities. Maybe not being in the Einsatzgruppen, but that doesn't exclude "normal" atrocities commited by most if not all fighting forces at some point. We Finns have a naive belief in the purity of intent of the Finnish Waffen SS volunteer, as well as the common conscript. It's almost inherited. Not to discredit the people who gave their lives for my independence, I'm extremely grateful for their sacrifice. It's just the nature of war, which can't be defied with ease.
Edit: shit, I misread your comment. You just excluded them from the Einsatzgruppen, not war crimes in general, whoops. My bad
Those "war crimes" are accounts as told by the Soviets.
@@roadgent7921 And the soviet "war crimes" are accounts as told by the finns. So what does that change now? War crimes are war crimes and finish people also lied...
@@dragonlord1225 The point I was making is - do you believe what the Soviet Union said?
@@roadgent7921 In terms of what?
Allmost all my great grandfathers and grandmothers fought in ww2 in the red Army alongside millions of other brave soldiers to defend their families and their homes against the terrors of the Nazi regime. Of course I believe the accounts of the soviet soldiers, as I have no reason to assume they would be lying about their experience in the war.
The Soviet or Russian government is not as trustworthy as the people, but neither are any other governments...
Enemy lines is where your recon has determined where the enemy is presently positioned holding/defending/preparing to attack from. Thats pretty basic knowledge for a Marine to know.
Especially during trench warfare during WW2 where for example in Finland they had clear view of eachother. Yeah, that's the "line" in between the two trenches. Also the soviets infact were poorly equipped to deal with the weather because stalin used troops from southern parts of russia to invade Finland. Some of these things this guys says is just plain arrogant.
I like his mindset. "I don't care whose side you're on, as long as you'll let me fight and kill Soviets, I'll fight with you." That's what you call dedication. We need more people with that mindset. Being able to overlook their differences in order to work for a somewhat common goal.
Really not quite right calling him a "Nazi". He fought for them, but was not an actual Nazi.
I mean it’s fine to call him a nazi
@@oopsiepoopsie2898 it really isnt he was only interested in the training and that was it also thats like calling the whole of finland nazis
He just really really hated commies
@@oopsiepoopsie2898 it's fine to call him a nazi x2
Well just like most of them. Average soldier was just fighting for father land or because he was told so
I know a guy who's served in the South African SF, British SAS and American Army Rangers. Great man.
Who? Someone in the community should know him. It would be quite odd for an SAS guy to come to America and join Regiment. Makes no sense at all actually. I'm thinking bullshit.
@@dadasaurusrex5461 The SAS is like a second home to our South African boys, you can literally ask for a transfer straight to the teams as a South African Special Forces operator. As for why he went to America, I'm not quite sure, but he has the uniforms and service records to prove it
@@ginger0208 That's called secondment, it's not the same as joining
@@Damo2690 no, he had to go through selection ect so its not secondment as far as I'm aware.
@@ginger0208 One requirement for joining SAS is serving in the British Military for 5 years, wonder if that counts Commonwealth services
Little Finland went against Giant Russia and was Bad Ass in 1939-40 Winter War, kicked USSR Stalinist invading Ass to a Peace Treaty.
For helicopters, my grandfather told me about his experience in the Korean war. They were bubble helicopters, more specifically the Bell 47 I believe. He told when he was injured and the fighting slowed down they put him on a stretcher and essentially strapped him to the skid of the helicopter. He said they used them a lot for transporting wounded, but he also said he rather enjoyed the interesting ride considering he had mortar shrapnel lodged in him.
He did what he had to do. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. He wasn't a Nazi, but a proud Finn.
@Ярослав Л he never did any of that tho
@@tomi9562 well even if so, he aligned with people who did that.
@@jamie9063 You mean the Soviets when they signed a pact with Germany to split Poland?
@@jksilta9335 even if it was not accepted for nazis to commit sexual violence, it happened. a lot.
@@jamie9063 Soviets did it too... ALOT
Man really hated communism. What a legend.
In my country(Hungary) it was used to say that " they swarm like tha russians".5 soldiers had 1 mosin. If one got shot the other picked up the rifle and continued fighting.If somebody started to flee from the battlefiend they got shot like instantly by their own comrade.
Behind enemy lines means being behind the enemy wherever it is, used profoundly in WWI where it had a full sentence meaning, since war evolved "lines" refer to "where you can effectively control something", in this case Torni used to fight assymetrical warfare behind where the enemies main force is physically located conducting whatever they were told to do....this term was more suited towards the trench warfare in WW1, but you should not think about "lines" as an actual trench or a fixed position, it's easily used to understand the work of an SOF unit
Finland didnt fight with nazis, they fought for their autonomy and Germany was an "enemy of my enemy" kind of deal.
@Ярослав Л I like to get source for this claim since i could not find anything related to that with my research, but i dont say it could not had happened. For reason i can only hypotheses at this point, what would be given number of soviet sympathizers in Finland some drastic actions were needed to secure rear lines and even then there were traitors who joined soviet partisans killing raping and blundering Finnish civilians, where Finnish partisan troops far as i know went *almost always after military targets(Havent heard this happen but war is a mess so such events probably did happen).
"Why did they agree to give the nazis a path into Russia?" Hey look these guys want to invade Russia and we want to take back land we lost to tyrant in shitty peace deal from war that was initiated by said tyrant... yeah let them help us, since its on their interest as well.
"Why refuse a lucrative land deal and go to war if they wanted to stay neutral?" What LUCRATIVE land deal? Finland lost 11% of its land due soviet invasion even though they fought and won most of the battles against soviet. Finland went to continuation war cause it did want to stay free in future, so Fins join the war to capture their land back, while weakening Soviet union to prevent further invasions and that was it. What soviets and Germany did between them was not Finnish concern, Finland was neutral in that regard.
"If they wanted the autonomy they already had why willingly become a nazi vassal?" Nazi vassal? No not in any point that was a case. As mentioned they helped Finland with equipment and some man power and it was case of "enemy of my enemy".
"Genocide was always the intent." What genocide? Number of soviet troops mowed down during the war was sure utter slaughter, to point where Finnish troops were so mentally scarred and tired they just collapsed, but that was not genocide. Far as i know no Jews were extradited to Germany, so what are you even talking about?
@Ярослав Л just saying that Finland's and Nazi germany's alliance started after the winter war
@Ярослав Л russia attacked finnland, because they wanted a bigger empire. Finnland could not have handled two wars at the same time, so they had to Allie with the nazis, that was their only chance to survive. Pls dont lie.
@@jouisimo5701 thats true. We didnt want second war at the same time.
@Ярослав Л I think you have read one too many soviet history books. Why would Soviet stage the Mainila artillery shots and start the attack after if they were willing to let Finland be? Lucrative land deal? On whose side was that :D 300000 Karelians had to be relocated elsewhere in Finland as their land and possessions were left on the wrong side of the new border.
What you have to understand about the finnish / nazi alliance of WW2 is that the French, the British and the Americans all promised military aid if the Russians invaded. No help came so the nazis were there with couple divisions and material (Finland had almost no tanks or planes of their own), so it was a question of accept the help available or fight alone. No one at that time knew nothing about the horrors of nazi Germany.
@@OreoBambino Nah, he probably meant the time when the Nazis said the N-word
well, some was known. but so was known of the horrors of stalin.
I knew a couple of Fnnish guys when I was a kid. They had crewcuts (during the long-haired 70's) and narrow slits for eyes. Scary striking unusual guys. And when they dove into the pool, they went headfirst with their arms tight along their sides. Fearless human torpedos! I remember thinking to myself, don't f*ck with the Finns! :)
i am from Finland and most modern day Finns are not that way.
What amazing story!!!!!!!!!!! I am really speechless.. I cant believe someone did all that. It really makes you feel small comparing today's struggles to back what this guy faced and did!. SALUTE to this bloody amazing LEGEND!
According to my mom you sweared
I hate how people think bloody is a swear word
It's a fact, that the soviets weren't supplied for winter warfare at the start of the winter war, and I did hear some of the forces used were from Ukraine, which... well, aren't as used to our cold winters.
I'm not saying the soviets didn't have troops used to such climate, i'm saying such troops weren't necessarily used in the winter war, nor supplied with winter equipment at first.
It's also a fact that the soviets had maybe 60 siberian divisions ( a number I heard of), which were highly adapted to winter warfare, but they were on the border to japan, and they were moved to the defence of moscow after their spies had shown japan wouldn't attack the soviets.
8:10 The winter war and continuation war both had the finns trying to hold static defence lines, usually trenches , dugouts and bunkers. Behind that, is their side. The soviets had trenches as well, and behind them is behind their line. That changed with the major push in '44, and the earlier breakthroughs in the winter war.
9:45 Well, the finns had a lot of soviet and formerly russian weapons, as well as weapons which used the same ammo as they did, so it wouldn't necessarily have been much adaptation to be done.
13:50 Don't forget the lapland war, which was about the demobilizing finns forcing the retreating germans out of finland.
14:25 There frankly wasn't any way for finland to actually win the war against the soviet union, without the western allies sending hundreds of thousands of men and way more supplies to their aid, but doing that against their own ally ? No way. And, Britain & France had 'promised to' send 50 000 men to finland's aid in the winter war, promising they would arrive in just a little while, to keep the finns fighting longer. Even if they had started that idea, most would've taken control of the swedish iron fields, and less than 5-10 k of them would actually arrive in finland, so you can probably understand that the trust wasn't really there.
And well, there were preparations for continued resistance if the soviet union actually tried to occupy finland, which it didn't.
And in the end finland retained it's democracy and independence through sacrifices.
Stalin killed almost all of his able bodied officers through fear of an uprising against him. He killed many logistics generals among them. Thus the equipment he sent into Russia and the men were not adequate for the weather. Big communist blunder Cost many thousands.
Lapland war wasn’t exactly a war, as much as Finnish fighting because of agreement with Russia.
Finns were letting germans know they were coming and letting the Germans flee before they fully attacked.
It’s also funny the term Lapland burner because germans burnt German supplies , the equivalent to throwing guns in to rivers during winter and continuation war so the society don’t have the equipment.
@@ragnartheredbeard9667 Finnish forces were driving german forces out of lapland, at first with the agreement between the two at which speed, meaning no fighting. Later on, soviets were angry with how slow it was, and demanded actual attacks.
That happened, and that made the germans angry, at which point they started kidnapping som laplanders as hostages (this made the finns even angrier, and the whole situation worse) and started burning down whatever they passed through
@Traktor Oil ... Carmelia ? I can only assume you're meaning Karelia.
And even if you are, you're still mistaken.
I think SU also used tactic to send troops from other part of the land than where the line was, so the troops wouldn't have a place to run of if they started to doupt
My Lt. in the German air force back in 97 was kind of like this guy he was in his late 50's to early 60's and still just a first lieutenant but had privously been in the French foreign legion for some 20 -25 years of his life. He had been in Vietnam at the time it was still a french war. He later then switched to his country of brth (germany) and went into the Luftwaffe as a Objektschützer. those are the guys who protected vital Air force installations. I was a drafty in the german AF at the time and also being trained as a Luftwaffen Objektschützer Typ A. And man he had some balls of steal , and you just knew no matter what he put us threw , he was holding back ALOT, I mean he was reimplemted in the LW , after he had some 5(FIVE) injuries and wasn't able to due frontline duty in the Foreign legion anymore so you know this guy saw endless shit. And the 1 thing i really remember most was he never had his hands flat. In germany unlike the US you have your hands flat against your legs when in attention. He couldn't do that. His right hand ALWAYS looked like it was gripping a weapon. he always had his hand looking like it was around the grip of a pistol ready to fire, even in "relaxed" postions. His name is or was not sure if he is still around Oberleutnant Sura . I salute him!
Ja klar
@@gordonsylvester8457 was soll das für ne antwort sein? Ja klar.... wenn sie es nicht glauben ist mir das reichlich egal. Fakt ist Lt Sura war einer der besten offiziere die ich je kennegelernt hab.
@@CF4herty okay,I call bullshit on this story.
You met this guy 1996 and he was between 50 and 60 years old.
Let's say he was 55.
That means he was born 1941 and this means he was , for example the battle off dien bien phu ends 1954
13 years old at this time.
As I said bs, and here are people who believe this 😁👍😂
Ahhh, and I was in the German airforce 99 and at this time they didn't called themself "Objektschützer“ we were "Luftwaffensicherungssoldaten".
Objektschützer cames later.
That's legit
@@gordonsylvester8457 also ich war von 1997 bis 1998 W10 in der 1 LAR 3 in Mengen. Meine Vollausbildung zum Hilfs & stations ausbilde hab ich in Roth bei Nürnberg gemacht. Da war Olt Sura der Ausbilder der Ausbildungsgruppe. Ich genoß unter ihm die Ausbildung zum Hlfsausbilder und ging dann zurück zum 1. LAR 3 Nach Mengen. 2004 ging ich zur Bundeswehr zurück als Wiedereinsteller. Mein Ausbildungsstand war nun OBjektschützer der Luftwaffe Typ A. Weil ich die Vollausbildung genossen hatte. Andere im zeitraum 1997-1998 wurden entweder zum Typ B oder C ausgebildet, da ihre ausbildung verkürzt war. 2 Monate AGA wegen boomer generation. Und ich weiß nicht was er genau in Vietnam mit der Fremden legion gemacht hat, ich hab nur erfahren das er da war, kann auch in den 70er gewesen sein. So ganeu weiß ich das nicht. Aber einem Lüge unterstellen weil ich nicht jedes detail seines lebens kenne ist unverschämt.
Thank you for bringing out the exceptional soldiers career of Lauri Törni alias Larry Thorne. There would be a lot to add into this story but mainly it went right. Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸
Awesome video. At my last command before retiring from the Navy, we had a fantastic CO. Capt. Bob Barker. What a fantastic leader. A true leader, came up through the ranks, got his hands dirty, worked side by side with everyone in his command, he was very respected by all. I glady and proudly saluted that man.
"He had no career to sacrifice." - This is so important. You don't want your CO second guessing decisions based on their personal ambition.
Soviets stole my ancestors homelands in Karelia, so ofc my family dislike russians even today.
Karelia has been finno ugrics lands over 6000 years so it doesn't belong to russians.
Simo Häyhä and Törni was also from Karelia region.
The sovjets stole my country Ingermanland. Nothing is forgotten and nothing is forgiven.
Hyvä esimerkki taas mikä on aivan täydellista typeryyttä, sekoittaa etninen ryhmä tai itseasiassa kokonainen kansa valtioon ja sen johtoon. Ja tämä siis yhtään vähättelemättä perheesi kärsimystä, on minunkin suvussa evakkoja ja sotaveteraaneja.
@@Ttt-gu4mt Ingria was conquered by Russia in the 1800's and had fuck all to do with the Soviets....apparently you don't even know your countries history. The Bolshevik Revolution is actually when they got to declare independence from Monarchist Russia.
I'd wager you're an American.
The soviets crushed us
@@Axu_02 Niin Neuvostoliiton poliitiinen johtohan koostui paljolti juutalaisista.
wow that guy had been through a lot! It gave me chills hearing about what he had done
A friend of my family was wounded twice in Vietnam one of the wounds was being shot in the neck. He was exposed to Agent Orange.
He has had part of one lung removed from the Agent Orange exposure and he is still alive to this day. Tough old man
Imagine communist dying all over the world because of one dedicated Finn 🤣💪🏻🤘🏻
@Birger Jarl well one austrian tried this and we all knew how it endet
@@militaristaustrian lol
imagine if there was like one poor russian soldier who switched countries to get to any battlefield away from him, but no matter wich war he fought lauri was just somehow always there. XD
True Warrior and dislike of Communism. 🇫🇮🇩🇪🇺🇸
The best alliance greetings from germany 🇩🇪🇺🇲🇫🇮
I didn't know south park made an episode about the winter war
What an absolute warrior.....this goes beyond the stuff of legends.
Commie killer. One of the most unique men in history.
3 armies under his belt, went from enlist to officer like 3 times, all by 35.
You make awesome videos! I understand why some Northern European men fought against Soviets at that time even though they weren't Germans. This guy was an amazing warrior during his entire adult life as if that's all he ever knew.
Yang Kyoungjong is another soldier that fought in the Imperial Japanese Army, the Soviet Red Army, and later the German Wehrmacht during World War II.
The russian divisions were brought from Ukraine, so no winter gear or winter training. Stalin thought that he just marches to Finland. WWII was different, soviet troops were equipped with U.S material, food, guns etc. so it was very different than in Winter War.
That guy did what he could to fight communism.
and people say the war on communism was a ruse. Just ask Larry. He did not think so.
@@JamesonsTravels Everyone I've ever met that lived under actual socialism/communism believed what Larry believed. Communism is pure distilled evil designed to turn humans into an ant colony.
@throwaway account He was also backed against a wall fighting against Stalin, who killed millions of his own people. History. It's complicated.
@throwaway account You have the luxury of saying that from a safe place where none of the threats he dealt with exist. Fuck off.
@throwaway account did you watch the video? Soviets invaded Lauris home town and he wanted revenge...
Some of now a day Finnish trainers have served in peace keeping and crisis assistance, i remember this one Staff sergeant who had served in Kosovo. He looked dead in the eyes and was pretty crude with every word and task he did, but one tough man. There was also another Staff Sarge who was an infantry specialist, he was pretty good fighter even for a peace time officer.
I literally think you could feel safe in war when he's around
Even if it sound funny when they say "behind enemy lines" these guys actually were far behind enemy lines, the Finnish "Sissi" units often went through own front line positions and skiied or were dropped like 200 km deep in to enemy territory to conduct recon and sabotage on supply depots, railroad traffic and military barracks, the only similar special force like them were the Soviet NKVD:s special recon units called the "Partisans", a predecessor of the modern "Spetsnaz" who conducted similar operations deep in Finnish territory mainly targeting civilian population, attacks on "Seitajärvi" and "Lokka" villages being the most notorious exampes of their work, these guys on both sides were the best of the best and they could maintain personal operational condition for 1 to 2 months living only in the forrest under constant danger of being spotted by the enemy and only receiving supplies via air drops or " supply torpedoes" like they were called here. Several Finnish soldiers served in the US military as officers sharing their experience about arctic warfare and special operations, guys like Alpo Marttinen, Olavi Alakulppi and of course Lauri Törni are only the most well known ones.
Russia got that ass beat in Finland. Fun fact, many German soldiers weren't Nazis. They knew it was us or them.
It ain't a fun fact, it's a fact.
Tho the way the NSDAP led Germany thru it's darkest hours after the Versailles treaty inspired many, they finaly had a cause to fight for again.
I bet most soldiers and civilians were enthusiastic supporters of the government when Germany was winning the war. Germans just conveniently claimed they were "victims that were just following orders" when Germany lost. I bet if Germany won most soldiers and civilians would worship Hitler like a God (like they were already doing before things got sour in Russia).
@@proof4469 yeah because you would a completely different compared to every other civilian there right?? Also the German army and the German commanders were very unloyal to Hitler (some were commanders even thought they were not fit to be, they were just fanatically loyal)
@John Doe When Germany was at the height of its victories (e.g. 1941 Summer), if I was a German I wouldn't mind if my country gained a massive Lebensraum and conquer most of Europe. Why the hell not? It's good for me and we were able to win and take whatever anyways. I don't get the argument that an average German just wanted to restore the lands they lost. Why would they just want that when they got humiliated at Versailles (so they want revenge and also prove the world we're the best) and they were crushing all their opponents (so they might as well take things in triumph anyways)?
@@taaraaita3522 Commanders started fighting HItler only starting in late 1941 when their victories started slowing down. Why would the generals and the OKH dislike him if they were doing nothing but winning? Soldiers follow the leader's victories, not necessarily the leader. When Hitler was winning everyone loved Hitler and followed his orders to the T.
Also, the "commanders/soldiers were very unloyal to Hitler" myth became a thing because most commanders and soldiers that wrote post-war memoirs wrote it that way to brush off their previous associations with Nazism.
everyone gangsta till the snow starts speaking finnish
First mistake: the Helicopter wasn't downed in Vietnam, it was downed in Laos!
White Death aka the most deadly sniper in history was Simo Häyhä.
"Behind enemy lines" is understandable because they fight behind the soviet main front. They were literally alone, no supply, no contact, no support. The phrase is just to distinguish more common line war and guerilla activity because they were different, the men were different and more skilled.
He hated Communism, what a badass way to fight Communism.
*Russians but yes
throwaway account I don’t really think he believed in killing millions of inncocnts
@throwaway account He joined the Waffen SS which is like the SS military.
A separate organisation from the camps and einzatsgruppen.
He joined very late on though as Germany was collapsing so I doubt he had a hand in the holocaust.
@throwaway account He spent most of the war in Finland with the Finnish army.
By time he joins the Waffen SS, Germany has been kicked out of most of their territories taken from 1939-42.
@throwaway account They were originally the bodyguards of Nazi leaders.
They expanded into several different branches.
They effectively take over the militant arm of the party by purging the SA in the Night of Long Knives in 1934.
The SS became a law to themselves, they were armed wing of the party who also committed some of the worst crimes in history.
The "behind the lines" term is actually correct in this case since that part of the war was static ww1 western front style trench warfare where both sides dug themselves in. There was minimal movement during that time.
One word: Sisu.
Sisu = "Whatever is required, will be done, whatever the cost".
i come from the word sissy, however I can run, I will find a way out! 🤣
You're awesome. Thanks for this
Patton: "We fought on the wrong side." Then he was assassinated by allied leaders, for criticizing them.
His hate of Communism angered Roosevelt + Truman lackies. GP was ahead of his time like Billy Mitchell but cost him his life.
Patton was a true Patriot.
Patton was on the wrong side
Wait what
Is it just me or are there a lot of Nazi fanboys here?
Started out as a reserve
Soon promoted when deserved
And the legend has begun
With a bounty on his head
The red army wants him dead
Soviet enemy number one
Cross of Mannerheim
Addicted to the war game
Never-ending flame
Victory reclaimed
Oh, we remember, we remember, we remember
Shout, Lauri Törni's name
A soldier of three armies knows the game
Keeps their echo from the past
Rise from beyond your grave
Son of Finland and the Green Beret
May you rest in peace at last
Lauri Allan Törni
Across the water a new start
War still beating in his heart
A new legend has been born
Started out as a reserve
Soon promoted when deserved
Changed his name to Larry Thorne
Cross of Mannerheim
Addicted to the war game
Never-ending flame
Victory reclaimed
Oh, we remember, we remember, we remember
Shout, Lauri Törni's name
A soldier of three armies knows the game
Keeps their echo from the past
Rise from beyond your grave
Son of Finland and the Green Beret
May you rest in peace at last
From the Finnish lakes
Into Germany and USA
All the wars he came across
Cross of Mannerheim
An iron cross, a bronze star, purple heart
One distinguished flying cross
Shout, Lauri Törni's name
A soldier of three armies knows the game
Keeps their echo from the past
Rise from beyond your grave
Son of Finland and the Green Beret
May you rest in peace at last
Lauri Allan Törni
I can feel a knee suffering already.....
If you know, you know.
Nice video and you seem like a solid dude! Keep up the good work.
How scandinavians feel about Russia/Soviet? Generally, they are still seen as the number one threat. Oddly enough, it feels like Finland has a better relationship with them. Maybe they are just forced to, sharing borders and so on.
I think it's out of nescessity and pragmatism. We Finns kind of consider ourselfs the diplomatic and military buffer-zone / threat that is protecting the Nordic region from the East. Of course during wartimes the Nordic countries have always been there for each other, although the fighting took place on Finnish soil. On a personal note I think we should surrender to Norway and get a piece of that sweet oil money action 😂
Thanks to our current president, Finland and Russia have quite good relations.
People living in big cities tend to dislike Russia more than people who actually live near border and actually know Russians.
We hate the Russians, they took my grandmother's home in Karelia. But when she was a teenager, she was working as a nanny for a Russian family and knew some of the language. Our language has a lot of loan words from Russian. We have to live with them.
Basically they are the only threat. There's a saying in Finland that "if the enemy doesn't come from the east it has flanked". Also long history of hostilities. Nevertheless we try to get along with them, benefits us too if we get along.
Theres a difference between soviet government and russian people. Soviet Union was communist for first few days of its existence, if even that. The rest of the time it was a nothing else but tyranny.
Russian people were prisoners of that tyranny as much as anyone else. Tyrants deserve nothing but hate, but their victims, no matter which nationality, deserve pity.
"Friendly Shrapnel mine" - especially in early stage of WW2 all minefields were very good documented by german military and i guess that Finland did same as probably they were consulting in this matter ( not to mention that they were mining own land ) I remember that when after ww2 allies forced german POW to sweep mines od Denmark coastline they had good knowledge in which areas were deployed different kind mines placed. Fact that Laurie went over mine probably was caused by fact that he was passing quite long distances and just didn`t remember all mine fields. I could however doublecheck that with my buddy from Finland.
yeah Finns marked every minefield. Also how to clear them and which mines were boobytrapped.
That's someone who would never settle, he's a real warrior. I don't think he would adapt to civilian life.
Fun fact: In detachment Törni was this soldier called Mauno Koivisto. He later became the President of Finland.
Norway relations to Sovjet/Russia: It's complicated. Sovjet invaded Norway in 1944 to expel the Germans from the north. AND after the war pulled back to their borders and did not annex parts of our country. Many felt great gratitude to the Sovjets for this. My dad was among those forced by the germans to evacuate from Finnmark (north Norway).
"He was feared by the Soviets..." This guy was a total bad ass.
The same goes for Finland regarding their alliance with Germany - we did not share any of their lebensraum and other nazi, etc. ideologies (not that people even knew about the real nazi atrocities back then) but the only common denominator was the shared enemy - the Soviet Union. We simply needed the help from Germany in order to survive and not be occupied by the Soviet Union like our Baltic neighbours. Still today, the doctrine of the Finnish Military Forces is basically that the only military threat we have is our eastern neighbour although relations between our countries have been mutually respectful and decent for decades now.
No other country bothered to offer assistance. Hitler's Germany offered assistance, military education, and the Führer himself felt strongly in favour of the Fins. It would be inexcusable to not accept his aide.
Actually, Britain, France and the USA did offer assistance to Finland in the Winter War, but too little, too late.
@@timonsolus Indeed they did but the swedes and norwegians wouldn’t allow troops to pass through their countries and thereby Finland got only material assistance, and in fact that too is said to have been quite crusial to the outcome of the war.
@@timonsolus Actually they did not. Finlands top officials knew those men would never arrive but invade northern sweden.
USA on the otherhand sent constantly supplies to Soviets during the fight as they were allies AND ALLIED POWERS.
That is why they admitted that finland was fighting separate war and did not punish them
@@EnjoyCocaColaLight Note that during Winter War, Germany sent very little or no help. Greatest material help came from Sweden, Italy and Hungary, and Spain in fourth place, if I remember correctly.
Germany sent next to nothing because Molotov-Ribbentrop pact had already ceded Finland to the Soviets.
You, Sir, are very sensible and informative. Thx for your videos.
All scandinavian countries had units fight the soviets during the Finnish war, later turning SS when the cease fire, to continue fighting. All of whom, that survived, was sentenced for treason after the war. After prison, many went to S. America or joined the Foreign Legion, hence so many German marching songs in the legion today. Here they fought in N. Africa & Vietnam in the 50’ies. There are legends that legionnieres would hit moving targets at far range with AT guns and mortars.. they had plenty of experience
I think the Finnish soldier you asked about was Simo Häyhä, a Finnish military sniper in the Second World War during the 1939-1940 Winter War against the Soviet Union. I found his info on Google; they printed that he had at least 505 confirmed kills. He always wore white as camo for the snowy environment.