Mattattackgames Porbably some backhanded crap about his "age" Hank is one of THE most LEGITIMATE musicians and all round people in the music bussiness today. 90% of these people that call themselves "musicians' should be doing half the things he's doing today, writing blogs, books and going overseas to talk about the ravages of war and how it's just an endless meatgrinder that devalues human lives. I never liked disco in any form AT ALL !!! give me a loud assed guitar and band ANY DAY!!! AGEISM IS THE NEW RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA COMBINED!!!
+Patrick McCluskey I know I know- I was just amused that this guy was so concerned about being 'hardcore'. Also, breaking stuff might be a rebellious act in the first world, but here it would just come as stupid you have to work your ass off to be able to afford the most basic of stuff. Same act in different cultural settings = different meanings.
it is funny. the point he mostly makes are the same point old people made about punk. he is one of the most overrated pop culture figures of my generation.
Tools like Henry Rollins don't understand anything but their own egos. Because he doesn't make computer music it must suck. Henry is no better than Tipper Gore or anybody else that tried to stop the youth from having their own music.
@@joshuakozee5719 I think he does. Why are people interested to go see on a massive stage a cashier sized table one person standing behind and 'performing music'? Can you tell me what is the guy doing behind the table? No one knows. He's doing fuck all. A rock or maybe a jazz band are doing all and every different parts of the music there by themselves and togerher and there you can see it and even relate to it. There's textures because if one fucks up, all goes wrong. The sound of the music lives right there! Why is a man interested about edm especially live edm? Because he/she/other is stupid. That is bottom line
@@goldenbrownie8436 Bullshit. Firstly, there are EDM musicians that perform their music live. Look at Madeon, the Chainsmokers' latest shows, Pendulum, Fox Stevenson's Live Band etc. Secondly, anyone can mix two tracks into each other. Not everyone can pick the right tracks to play, read a crowd, pull off creative mixes and blend two existing tracks together to make something new. What's he doing behind the table? Mixing music. Selecting tracks. Carefully watching the crowd to see what they like, and adjusting accordingly. Mashing up live - taking an acapella of one track and slapping it onto the other, or playing two tracks at the same time and making them work well by carefully EQing them. Fade ins and fade outs aren't the only things DJs do. Fucking up a mix is VERY easy. However, if the DJ is good, you won't even know that he fucked up. Calling anyone stupid for liking anything is stupid in and of itself. EDM is art just as much as any other genre of music. Making an EDM track is very, very difficult. If you don't believe me, go ahead, do it yourself. Lemme see how long it takes you to start getting as good as the top dogs in the game. In conclusion, you're wrong. Especially about your "bottom line". The bottom line here is that you're shutting out and disrespecting everyone who likes EDM just because you personally don't see the appeal. That, my friend, is absolutely stupid.
@@aleksandarj5286 Are you seriously saying that it is a skill to see 10 000 tiny tiny people moving their heads and hands and telling their feelings towards the show by that? Ridiculous haha! That just doesn't happen. You say that making edm track is very difficult, but still - edm artist is just a 'record player player'. That is the brown bottom line no matter how nicely you put it. Anyone can mix a few tracks, but a only a thin headed person is interested in that. I know I'm using naive words here and there but you just cannot fight that edm isn't just a hobby and not a real good musical act. Gfys. Edm isn't like any other art or style in musics, it's just a rip off in the end
@@goldenbrownie8436 Well, firstly, you're wrong again. As I've already stated, there's tons of artists who make EDM and perform it entirely live. You seem to ignore that entire argument. Secondly, yes. If you're a real DJ in a club, reading the crowd isn't easy. Emphasis on real DJ. You may happen to play a track and suddenly everyone gets off the dancefloor. Similarly, you play a track which gets people moving. Reading a crowd isn't watching if they're feelin' the music, reading the crowd is deducing and concluding which type of music will get them dancing the most. Not every crowd is the same. Lastly, yes. DJs play records. However, as I've said, it's also selecting the right tracks, mashing different tracks up live, creative transitions etc. You're not gonna hear Rihanna mixed with The Weeknd mixed with AC/DC mixed with Vini Vici anywhere except at a DJ show. Using what exists to create something new - that's what real DJing is all about. And don't get me started on scratching. So, in conclusion, you're wrong. I'm not saying there isn't a part of the EDM industry that's just a ripoff, or music that's made just to get money in there. I believe every industry has that. However, generalising the genre as a whole is just BS. My personal recommendations are Madeon, Illenium, Porter Robinson and Fox Stevenson. Take a listen, you never know if you might like it.
I'm a little younger than Henry, but you have to understand where he's coming from. When he was growing up and coming of age in the late 70's and early 80's, there was a lot of originality. Look at it this way, you still see kids dressing like skaters, punkers, goth, and all the shit that came from Henry's era. In the late-70's, you didn't see derivatives of bygone eras. There weren't any greasers left in 1980. The flower children had died out. Kids weren't playing Frank Sinatra or Elvis. But with even more-elapsed time up to the present era, you continue to see all the shit Henry's generation invented. Go to a high school and see the kids wearing Ramones shirts, hairstyles from 1981, punk shit, Ozzy fans, all the skaters with the same vibe as 1981. He's right in the spirit of what he's saying. Think of how different things were from 1968 to 1981. Take the same 13 years and put it to 2003 to 2017. It's kind of the same feel. It says these last few generations of young kids haven't really made the same impact as other decades.
JohnLoCicero I always wonder if in the future people will ever revere music from this era as much as we do for the past. I don't think Jonas Brothers or Justin Bieber will have such longevity. If they do, still won't affect me anyways.
@@dylanstewart5479 Rock n roll was always all bark no bite, bud. Maybe Black Flag can get some cred for being perceived as such a threat the police were on their tale a while, but guess what? We still have bands like that. Hardcore as a genre still exists and members from punk bands all around the world are still getting arrested for disturbing the peace to this day, from folkpunk to Crustpunk to hardcore, from the US to the Philippines, that bassist from Ramshackle Glory, more than one person from Leftöver Crack. There are also bands who don't do shit, crappy hair metal bands from the 80s are just as fake tough as like Nickelback or something. Henry's statements hold up just as much a couple years ago as they would've in 1980.
We're not in those times anymore though. Back then, it wasn't that easy to just listen to something from the past. Not everyone had a record player and most people only had a couple of records, and everyone else just listened to the radio which plays current songs. Now all you have to do is Google it and there you go, music from 60 years ago, still in the same quality. It's only natural that when people listen to old music and see video clips from that era, they might want to dress like that or get into that kinda vibe.
It wasnt that original. they were all playing the same instruments that had been played for 50 years before them, only the style of the music had changed. Original is realising that with a shit computer and a piss poor sampler with 5 seconds of sampling time you could chop up the Winstones color him father from the 60s into tearing beat splinters and for the London man dem. Jungle still sounds completely fucking alien to a lot of people now, 30 years later. that's true originality.
@@winstonmarlowe5254 yeah man this was pathetic to watch. i'm glad i saw it again. like, bro, he literally has an issue with someone spinning the record? the record needs to spin to be heard. he prefers not to be heard?
Rollins is known in some circles for being a bit of a dick so I'm not sure he's self-aware of how stupid this sounds coming from someone that got famous in the hardcore and punk scenes where the entire point was simple and often abrasive music in rebellion of over-produced and technically complex rock and metal. Grunge and post-grunge were the same sentiment but honed to a polish so it's got that catchy hook while still being extermely raw and emotional
Just proves all of his music lacked any integrity. Tipper Gore here, I mean Henry Rollins is just another tool in a long line of tools yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
In general I think DJs should go get fucked, I mean they're playing other peoples music and acting like they've done something more special than the people who actually made the music. So I agree with Henry in some regards. However there are some truly excellent DJs whose song picks change the way a crowd behaves. Those DJs create different transitions, add effects, and juxtapose different musics to create an experience that can be unique and compelling. They play the crowd. I will always prefer live music over pre-programmed electronic disco regardless of whatever drugs I happen to be on or off. But some DJs are worthwhile enough to pay to see.
To me a good DJ is like a movie director. He takes parts and puts them together, but he sure as hell ain't no musician. In fact most directors hire those for their movies.
So djs on radios ain't playing other people's songs ? .. it's an art .. n propper djs are just expressing what they like and are liked for their taste and what music they play ..
No wonder he rips on the not understandable singer, this was in 2001, when everyone was trying to copy Pearl Jam. Now a days we have shitty tenor vocalists who all sound like Green Day lost the bite and testosterone. And anyone dissing Henry Rollins, know that he wasn't a comedian first, he was the lead singer of the hardcore band Black Flag, who is more influential than any EDM artist can hope to be.
Influential to who? Gimme a fucking break. He's just like every other old bitter washed musician that no longer makes hits. I still remember him dancing around on a beach on MTV shouting "CAUSE IM A LIAR!!" Lololol. Fucking hypocrite.
Tony Starks Rollins is one of the best live performers you'd ever have a chance at seeing. He's influential to a lot of modern hardcore singers. Ian of Fucked Up, Frank of Frank Carter & The Rsttlesnakes, etc etc. Who's Tony Stark been influential to besides 30 year old 300 pound fat dudes who need Tinder to fucking get laid?
As an Electronic Dance Music producer ( not official, I make it for fun and love ) I can say that it is totally true what he says about Rave music, you just put a kick sample, and pick and rave sample from your virtual analog synthesizer, and it's done, but trust me, for making some REAL Electronic Music, you need alot of talent, imagination, skill, and knowledge of the music theory. And there is alot of ground to cover while making some Electronic Music. Even just mastering an electronic dance track can take up to like 20 hours of straight work, but seriously, if you want it to sound good on all music systems, to be balanced, and people to love it, you have to be an professional in mastering, which is hard, and you gotta have good ear for it, and not to talk about an actual making of the track, even dubstep and trap ( which is considered as ''no talent music''). It's not just ''put this an that sample, and it's done'' It's alot of ground to cover and love to do in Electronic Dance Music, so please don't shit on Electronic Music, shit on crappy producers who are ruining it. I'm not ''shitty complaining whining trance techno electronic skrillex slash big rave room house bitchy fan boy'', just telling you the truth behind it. And DJ-ing too, you can't become popular and respectful DJ if you don't have your own music, well you can, but you fall quickly, or if your uncle is Tiesto, and your dad is Barack Obama, well then you can become something like that, but that falls quickly too actually, because people realise. DJ-ing is something you gotta have good ear for too, it's not just pushing buttons, it involves talent to. Well to be real, it doesn't evolve type of talent like ''being the number one basketball player in the world'' but it's not that easy either. But I do feel you Henry, I know how annoying those shitty DJs slash ''Producers'', and I feel same anger beacuse they are popular more than those who make real music with passion, but what can I say, this world is fucked.
Adolf Hetzer Go Ahead, make an amazing, unique and inovative EDM song without any talent and imagination, go ahead, make it if it's that easy. If it's bullshit, go ahead, make an amazing track, put it on beatport and become famous music producer, go ahead, do it
SnoopehRevolt Well you see, there arent any amazing unique and inovative electronic songs, thats the whole point that is being made here. Pay attention dj fuckhead.
Rob Scenity Well then Rollins is to Comedy what he thinks DJ's are to music. He's not joking either. Which is sad. I hate seeing talented performers turn into grumpy old men who think only they know what is what.
Yo Henry, you don't think Black Flag was crap music too? Now and then it was screaming and sludge. It was miles below something like the Dead Kennedys. Just don't think Rollins can take the high road on music with his background, even if it is just a comedy routine.
I've been a metalhead & musician since the mid 90s, love all the classic genres from the beginning of the century to the 90s and beyond for their authenticity/ musicianship and I love Henry, but I hope he gets to experience some sick badass rave like AphexTwin's sets in coachella 2019 at least once in his life... 🤫 Either this or Igorrr...
Strong words from a man who plays simplistic, power-chord punk music. If he was a jazz or prog rock musician maybe he would be qualified to criticize other music for being too easy to make. So what exactly is the problem with DJ's? Someone has to play and mix music at clubs and bars, and most EDM artists would be glad to know DJ's are playing their music. Also, EDM production (as opposed to DJing) isn't easy. If you think it is, go ahead and open Ableton and let me know how that goes for you.
To start listen to Rollins band (liar is a really good place to start) they have many elements of prog and jazz in fact they are closer to that than punk. As a former electronic musician who has turned to hardcore/metal/punk not to be rude but electronic music is not a a quarter as hard as a band. You can time align and pitch correct and edit and perfect anything in ablation. Hell don’t even need to be able to play the chords you just need to be able to type them out. His main issue is sampling which I agree with, you are playing another record you have cut up and stitched back together and then have the fucking nerve to call it yours. Just because ableton is hard which it is, does not mean that punk and what not is not harder. You need to have feel and the parts perfect every night on an instrument 10 times harder to play than a turn table(coming from a guy who has done both). The hardest part is the thing DJ’s don’t have, the synergy between band members and the trust in band members. If one band member fucks up the mental communication you got going on the song is fucked.if a DJ fucks up it moves on. Final point of business is that DJ’s are not bad but they shouldn’t be topping the charts and making millions for playing somebody else’s record with minimal addition, you aren’t really presenting as a creative when everybody is coming to your show to hear someone else’s music.
I hope you have changed your mind in the last ten years. Rolling isn't commenting on the difficulty aspect alone. Ramones made very simple music but it was their own music and to create songs maybe simplistic but that catchy and memorable isn't easy.
Because they're lost in their discomfort that arises from watching a self-unaware hypocrite turn into a ball of bullshit, knowing full well the same things were said about punk rock music. He fucking proposed censoring these people. What a hypocrite.
I think some people are taking what he's saying way too seriously. It's an exaggeration of opinion to make it more humorous & interesting for his spoken word show. He's had official remixes on one of his tracks himself (before this video) and i'm sure he's mentioned people he's worked with who use samples & mixes in interviews/spoken word that would fall in the category of what he's talking about here. DJ Steve Porter does the best sample mix of this video. The video even has a cameo appearance from the Techno Viking! What more could you want?!
barkmonster Amen. It really is sad when you see ignorant people like Henry Rollins comment on stuff like music production bashing it and not having any clue what the actually complexities of it are.
You do realize that he is using hyperbole and irony to bring across his point that original music has become less and less seen in mainstream media? Besides that, he consciously polarizes to spark discussion about said point.
I bet that's just what classic guitarists thought about the first rock guitarists. "You are just distorting it and playing power chords bla bla bla. And screaming into the microphone and not really singing bla bla bla." It's easy to make electronic music, but it's hard to make good electronic music. There is an art to creating the perfect synthesiezer sound or digging for the perfect sample and pitching and speeding or slowing it right and laying out a good original rythm and song structure and there is still mixing and mastering etc. that has to be done to make a really good track. And there are also vocals and lyrics on some electronic songs. While you can use software to patch up the singing, many people will notice the difference to really good singing. He just has no idea about electronic music, so it seems fake to him. Yeah, there is a bunch of electronic music that is trash, or that is even trash and popular, but the same goes for any genre.
I feel like he does to, This feels like ggood natured rubbing, especially since he has no room to talk on the drugs, he once dropped acid with another member of black flag
@@cyborglion4179 so if you prove drugs once in a lifetime you are forbidden to cricism? hey tell all the junkies stop warning about drugs, they have no room to talk about that.
Ironic that a guy in a punk band is lecturing everyone on who’s a real musician like the easiest genre of guitar based music to perform lol same three cords every song same drumming aswell hahahaha
No irony. Punk still takes more musical knowledge than electronic music. That being said, someone with broad musical experience can do good things with electronic music. It’s just that you don’t need a sense of rhythm to drag and drop something on to a grid.
Christian Stepaniuk Anyone who thinks there’s no skill in being a DJ doesn’t know anything about it I would love to see you beat match on vinyl mate, and music production aswell there is far more depth in layering music in even something like go studio than there is using overdrive and 4 chords on a square 4/4 beat
"DJ Fuckhead!" hahaha this guy is so funny and clever. Wow! What a wit! "DJ Fuckhead!" hahahaha Wow, man. Your best work certainly is not behind you. This is the golden age of Rollins. "DJ Fuckhead!?" Where does he GET this stuff??? "DJ Fuckhead?" YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP, HANK.
+13/F/K nah hes not anti gay at all, if rollins was gay he wouldve came out w no fucks given. Rollins is a genius even if he is kinda uptight. His music had meaning and morals. the fact that he had such high and different morals. youre just pissed cuz you probably listen to rave bullshit
Play "The SektorZ :: By Default" and tell me if you wont wanna fuck on the floor and break shit. This guy's right when it comes to crap like "Animals by Martin Garrix" but there's SO MUCH GOOD SHIT THAT MAKE YOU WANNA FUCK ON THE FLOOR AND BREAK SHIT!
Techno is way more punk than Henry will ever be! He was an angry young guy with nothing to say, now he is an angry old guy moaning about the things he doesn't understand.
Aye, and there's a big difference between a musician making electronic music and a DJ (and between a good DJ and a shitty DJ for that matter). I love electronic music (and classic rock, and metal, and and and), but those hacks that only sample other people's music can go suck on exhaust fumes.
dance music is about love. i grew up on punk and 90's pop punk bands and I still love a lot of the music but the rave scene has forever won my heart. the dance scene takes care of its people and we welcome everybody
Yeah, it seems to be somewhat connected to positive aspects of spirituality and buddhism. I wonder whether that's the result of mdma being so popular at raves.
@@pzen congratulations 👏👏👏👏. That was incredible mental gymnastics/logic leap you just did there. I give you a 9.3. No. Sorry to disappoint you. I never agreed with that. I don't support banning anything. However, I do support good taste, and the humour of someone pointing out what crap music is.
untalented comedian talking shit about whole music genres he doesn't know shit about. Radio music sucks immensely but you cannot condemn an entire music genre because of that. There is amazing electronic music, there is horrible jazz music. It's not about the genre itself, it's about the its composition/realization. Have you heard about "elevator music" ? well, that's jazz.
I think the best thing about ravers is the fact that you cannot make fun of us. I’m serious, this bit is A perfect example you make fun of us it doesn’t matter how brutal you are we will soundbite your bit throw it into a mix and it will be the new number one at the events you’re making fun of. 😂
16 years later, after listening to tons of electronic music, especially dubstep and seeing what Au5 does in the DAW, I'm sayin' this is not just random sounds put together. This is a masterpiece what this guy does
@@masteryoda498 I respect RockNRoll listeners, as well as the genre, but to me, EDM is sooo much better... depends on the genre, though, but that is also subjective
@@masteryoda498 As someone who can play classic rock and jazz music on bass guitar, including metal and has some very basic understanding of how to use a DAW. You have zero idea what your talking about and wouldnt be able to make hot cross buns on ableton if your LIFE depending on it kid. Just because you dont like it does not make it not "real" music lmao. Au5 is actually master class from a sound design, and compositional standpoint. Henry rollins is an absolute clown whose band made it big off an edgy "image" and shitty power chrods that i could teach any 10 year old to play in about 10 mins.
@@chandude3 That's your opinion, and opinions are like arseholes, we have all got one. Sorry Henry Rollins is right about this one, electronic dance music is NOT real music, neither is rap, or any of this auto-tuned manufactured pop rubbish. Nothing wrong with power chords, they sound great.
I do believe that the exact thing Rollins is shouting about was also being said about punk in it's infancy and beginning.....and to some extent, still is. This makes Henry sound like he is a close-minded, hypocrite, and an un knowledgeable douche about music. He's only using examples from various genres that the corporate record labels and radio shoves into the brainwashed masses earholes. Of course it sucks!!!! He of all people should know that there is, for the most part, within the underground/non- mainstream of most genres, some very good, creative, innovative, cool stuff.
DJ's are not musicians was his point and he is right. Yes this is still some decent shit out there but the the great shit is gone and is never coming back.
@@Cooliepops Yes, but they had other kinds of music. Look it up - they were constantly talking about the old Greek masters, and how new music is horrible.
drizzd1 Punk is greater than shitty electronic music and it's not even close. Punk music has something that electronic music will never have, and that is substance and heart.
RebelThoughts82 "punk is greater than shitty electronic" objectively incorrect, try again, brain dead people have substance and heart and they are fucking useless.
The little angst ridden white boys bought into the black mans plan, and are eating it up. Heavy music is not dead, there are devoted legions of fames around the world. What black artist could go into Chile, like iron maiden, and draw in 80,000 fans singing along with every single word? Don't give me this Kanye West or Beyonce shit, those fans are just going to these shows because the media tells them too. Their fans dont know every song, because they don;t even own these performers albums.
Exactly... Beyonce fans know more about her clothes, make-up, hair, and who she's fucking than the music. Heavy music fans go for details about the gear and thought process in the writing, philosophy of the band, etc. I met Black Flag with Henry when they were touring the Damaged album and then again a year later. Totally life-changing experience.
I know Henry is only pissing about but I will say that from my own perspective, I have been listening to Jungle(Specifically late 93-late 95) every day since late 93, with no drugs, and still love it all nearly 30 years later. I love Rock/metal too, I started listening to Maiden first via mix tapes from my cousin back in the early 80s but still ended up into not just the rock/metal, but also the rave, the jungle/d&b, the Gabber and every other genre too. What I am trying to get at is that it doesn't matter what it sounds like or how its produced, it just matters that you love it. One love guys. Peace ✌❤
Also, him going on about drugs and music doesnt really make sense. He used to go round to Nick Caves' flat and see him shoot speedballs, but oh, that must be punk!
Lance Cunningham He used to be a rather weedy sort of person when he was younger (by his own admission), though these days he seems more and more like a thug jock! I don't mind him, but yeah, he's got some fucked up opinions. He just shouts them out a bit too loudly I think! =O) You ever seen his 'talk' shows? I saw the Think Tank tour (in 2000 I think it was, I think it was his first one-man-show too)... He was pretty entertaining. I do remember him going on about "blippy rave music" as well. Though the most fucked up thing I remember him talking about was the mugging and subsequent murder of his friend Joe Cole... Shot in the face on his doorstep. And when the cops came they seemed totally uninterested in what happened. They actually thought they were a gay couple, so these homophobic cops didn't give two shits. They even handcuffed Henry! For no reason whatsoever... Phew! No wonder he's an angry man! I'd be going mental! I guess the show was cathartic for him, it had only been like 8 or 9 years since the murder. It remains unsolved too... Seems those cops shoulda/coulda been more on the ball for a start. Anyway, I'm just rambling now!
nickthelick I'll look that show up it sounds good. I've heard Rollins talk real sense - usually when he is calm. I think he lets his knee jerk emotional reactions win over sometimes. It's weird looking at his footage over the years because you can see him change as a person - into an overall better person I feel.
I like punk and I love Henry but this kinds irked me. He's right about the over-production and the lack of any consequential attitude in rock music. But man does it bother me when "rockers" and "punkers" hell bent on flying their true-rock and true-punker flags (no pun intended) insist on throwing electronic music under the bus when all they have is a layman's understanding of how it's made our how much of it exists ( it seems like he has no idea about anything that exists beyond what you would hear in a club.) Electronic music is pretty fascinating. I study audio production and composition. I grew up listening to rock, punk, and metal. I'm pretty well versed in all of it from Lagwagon to Drive Like Jehu, from Black Flag to Suicidal Tendencies, from Lamb of God to Mastodon, from progressive rock bands like Yes to post punk bands like Joy Division and New Order or the modern day revival of post punk with bands like Interpol and The Bravery. I also play guitar, bass, and drums. I've been in bands and I know what goes into making "real" music as people like Rollins would call it. I also enjoy electronic music and I enjoy it today more now then I did before after all I've learned in audio production. What bothers me about the "you're just sitting on a mac" attitude the simple counter response you can give to it: "yeah, well do you know what they're doing on the mac?" See, every synth patch you here on a song is carefully crafted with the most complex fucking interfaces you'll ever see on an instrument. You have an array of oscilators generating wave forms which all either play together or interact with eachother. You have control over the attack, sustain, decay and release of each tone, you have control over external, low frequency oscillators which generate wave forms in frequencies too low for us to hear but whos signals you can send to your audible oscilators to fuck with their sound in very specific ways, the nuances of which you have full control over and need to really know your shit to do anything cohesive or musical with. Not to mention once you get past all of that, there is still the matter of composition. You can't just make a bunch of noise and throw it together. you need to know a thing or two about rythm, about pitch and chords, about crafting melody and counter melodys, about dynamics and how to use all of those elements for all of the dramatic effects that change how different parts of a song move you. And then sampling is a whole different animal. What about the way samplers gave poor youth in the 80s the means to create hip hop, a music that gave them a voice? What about the nuances of credit that it brings to light? If I record a I-V-VI-V chord progression (4 chord song) and record it, have I not basically plagarized every song with that chord progression? Can you claim ownership of a common chord progression? When I play and record a drum beat and you slice up my recording and extract my individual hits to rearrange into something entirely different, what have you actually stolen? Have a not a million drummers all stepped on their kick pedal in the same fucking manner? How do you claim creative ownership of a single drum hit? If the end product is something entirely different, if you've spent hours, days, months, breaking a part a break beat, rearranging its hits, speeding it up or down, adding layers of other percussion samples or synthesized hits to add depth to it, rearranged the individual pieces of a bunch of chord progressions or melody lines, and arranged them together in a way that hasn't been heard before and created a new song wherein you can recognize any charcteristic of the songs all its pieces came from, that is not "untalented."
Agreed. As someone who plays the violin and mandolin and also tried making electronic music, gotta say, electronic music is complicated as hell (like, i eventually gave up because it was too hard). Henry's being kind of a boomer here.
Этот анализ выступления очень глубок. Всё равно Генри Роллинсу респект и уважуха, хоть я и не согласен со всем, что он говорит. Само выступление очень ржачное.
I am a little shocked at hearing this come from someone who is an open minded individual. I find henry rollins talks about marriage equality and his own background story to be very inspiring, but I guess some people have to hate everything. I attend many raves and festivals, and while drugs are common in some rave circles that is not unique to something in the rave scene, and I have been to events where almost everyone is sober. Raves bring about peace and change lives. as a lover of punk rock
So he's against sampling and DJing in general? I don't like awful rave music either, but what about hip-hop and the "golden-age of sampling". Groups like A Tribe Called Quest transformed other people's stuff into something epic and new.
I don't think he's against it in general. He's overreacting to make the show funny. And he's ranting about uninspiring, awful rave music, dj's and electronic music producer's widely spread arrogant, elitist attitude and about most nowadays low quality productions (e.g. in rock music).
captainbrainless That was kinda funny that captainbrainless had to explain the humor to you all...I would not watch HR and expect anything less than satire through humorous exaggeration. Enjoy the show - he is just playing!
The difference is that groups like A Tribe Called Quest did something talented with and on top of the sampling. There's a world of difference between the trash he's talking about and ATCQ.
lol, i've missed this guy, wot a hero! funny, i'm an old rocker too, but i found the link when i was listening to some very nice ambient music...i guess every evolutionary curve has to go somewhere
you know people are full of shit when they talk shit about something to afterwards make the same shit that they're shitting on in this case Henry did some collaborations with techno artists ,most known example him & Goldie on the Spawn soundtrack it totally invalidates their argumentation.cracks me up
The irony is that this sketch has been sampled so many times on uk hardcore and dance tracks lol.
Can you, please give some examples, I would really like to hear some
skism- rave review
Angerfist - Shitty Rave Track
AC Slater - Rave Music (Oli G remix) is a UK hardcore one.
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"You're a record player-player" lmaoooooo
Irony is im a DJ and he's not that wrong lol
ua-cam.com/video/_rH6G91tzC4/v-deo.html 😉
DJ Fuckhead goes by a different name these days. I think he calls himself DJ Khaled.
or anyone on spinnin'
TheDarkUnicorn I agree 99% but Autoerotique is a boss.
lmao
nah DJ fuckhead is post malone.
"You're a record player, player" lol Henry cracks me up.
Rave Review :D
NFKRZ hey guys no fuckas here
:D
DUDE!!!! YOU LIKE BLACK FLAG?!?!?
👏 RAVE 👏 REVIEW 👏
WTF YOU LIKE BLACK FLAG AND PUNK ROCK MAN?
> mfw EDM producers sample this
Just like Eminem's 'Nobody listens to techno'- bit.
hue.. thats exactly what Im here for
Modeselektor Boogybytes Vol 3 - Panacea - Intro
definitely the best-possible comeback
@@MichaelGreenKitesthis is a banger wow and very much like "jungle trance hip hop" lol
It's funny because know there is a dub step song with him in it lol. I wonder how pissed he is now.
Don't forget Hardcore aswell: Angerfist & Tieum - Shitty Rave Track :D
Dude there is like 5 different songs with this sampled in it.
Mattattackgames Yea one of my favourites is Rave Review (ak9 remix)
Mattattackgames Yea Skism's 'Rave review'
Mattattackgames Porbably some backhanded crap about his "age" Hank is one of THE most LEGITIMATE musicians and all round people in the music bussiness today. 90% of these people that call themselves "musicians' should be doing half the things he's doing today, writing blogs, books and going overseas to talk about the ravages of war and how it's just an endless meatgrinder that devalues human lives. I never liked disco in any form AT ALL !!! give me a loud assed guitar and band ANY DAY!!!
AGEISM IS THE NEW RACISM AND HOMOPHOBIA COMBINED!!!
'fuck on the floor and break shit'- first-world problems ftw.
+Patrick McCluskey I know I know- I was just amused that this guy was so concerned about being 'hardcore'. Also, breaking stuff might be a rebellious act in the first world, but here it would just come as stupid you have to work your ass off to be able to afford the most basic of stuff. Same act in different cultural settings = different meanings.
+Patrick McCluskey True- well, we all have our flaws. Yep, I used to listen to a lot of rock growing up, too, including some punk. :)
“I guess I'm just an over-the-hill forty year-old curmudgeon who's totally lost the plot.”
This was back in 2001 when nu metal was popular, but Henry's views on rave music work just as well for today's EDM.
Maybe some of todays Trap, but a lot of Future House, Dubstep and House and everything are good. Future Bass Trap is still good though.
he did say modern rock sucks too!
+JPMcFly1985Two David Guetta.
can't tell if this is a serious comment
+. Fuck TRAP.
Trance Music, Oldskool Trance, Uplifting Trance and Progressive Trance are the shit.
I love going to raves, I've been a listener for close to 10 years, but dude's gotta a point, I can't deny it.
he has 0 points
@@wisdom7981 Wisdom indeed. F HR
it is funny. the point he mostly makes are the same point old people made about punk. he is one of the most overrated pop culture figures of my generation.
I DJ'd for 17 years...can 100% agree.
Speaking as a straight edge kid who turned into an occasional drug using adult, it hits me the same way
who else googled dj fuckhead?
Darn spoiler. Oh well now I don't have to Google it anymore.
electronic music comes from a computer, rock music comes from a guitar, art comes from the heart
All comes from the mind and the soul, whatever the media
@@mariogato495 bullshit and media comes from asshole
I love Rock but electronic music is cool too, from a computer or not. And some electronic songs have instruments tho
Electronic music comes from the ass.
Tools like Henry Rollins don't understand anything but their own egos. Because he doesn't make computer music it must suck. Henry is no better than Tipper Gore or anybody else that tried to stop the youth from having their own music.
Damn, I actually like EDM and even I can’t deny that he’s right lol
I don't think he means the genre as a whole
@@joshuakozee5719 I think he does. Why are people interested to go see on a massive stage a cashier sized table one person standing behind and 'performing music'? Can you tell me what is the guy doing behind the table? No one knows. He's doing fuck all. A rock or maybe a jazz band are doing all and every different parts of the music there by themselves and togerher and there you can see it and even relate to it. There's textures because if one fucks up, all goes wrong. The sound of the music lives right there! Why is a man interested about edm especially live edm? Because he/she/other is stupid. That is bottom line
@@goldenbrownie8436 Bullshit. Firstly, there are EDM musicians that perform their music live. Look at Madeon, the Chainsmokers' latest shows, Pendulum, Fox Stevenson's Live Band etc.
Secondly, anyone can mix two tracks into each other. Not everyone can pick the right tracks to play, read a crowd, pull off creative mixes and blend two existing tracks together to make something new.
What's he doing behind the table? Mixing music. Selecting tracks. Carefully watching the crowd to see what they like, and adjusting accordingly. Mashing up live - taking an acapella of one track and slapping it onto the other, or playing two tracks at the same time and making them work well by carefully EQing them.
Fade ins and fade outs aren't the only things DJs do. Fucking up a mix is VERY easy. However, if the DJ is good, you won't even know that he fucked up.
Calling anyone stupid for liking anything is stupid in and of itself. EDM is art just as much as any other genre of music. Making an EDM track is very, very difficult. If you don't believe me, go ahead, do it yourself. Lemme see how long it takes you to start getting as good as the top dogs in the game.
In conclusion, you're wrong. Especially about your "bottom line". The bottom line here is that you're shutting out and disrespecting everyone who likes EDM just because you personally don't see the appeal. That, my friend, is absolutely stupid.
@@aleksandarj5286 Are you seriously saying that it is a skill to see 10 000 tiny tiny people moving their heads and hands and telling their feelings towards the show by that? Ridiculous haha! That just doesn't happen.
You say that making edm track is very difficult, but still - edm artist is just a 'record player player'. That is the brown bottom line no matter how nicely you put it. Anyone can mix a few tracks, but a only a thin headed person is interested in that. I know I'm using naive words here and there but you just cannot fight that edm isn't just a hobby and not a real good musical act. Gfys. Edm isn't like any other art or style in musics, it's just a rip off in the end
@@goldenbrownie8436 Well, firstly, you're wrong again. As I've already stated, there's tons of artists who make EDM and perform it entirely live. You seem to ignore that entire argument.
Secondly, yes. If you're a real DJ in a club, reading the crowd isn't easy. Emphasis on real DJ. You may happen to play a track and suddenly everyone gets off the dancefloor. Similarly, you play a track which gets people moving. Reading a crowd isn't watching if they're feelin' the music, reading the crowd is deducing and concluding which type of music will get them dancing the most. Not every crowd is the same.
Lastly, yes. DJs play records. However, as I've said, it's also selecting the right tracks, mashing different tracks up live, creative transitions etc. You're not gonna hear Rihanna mixed with The Weeknd mixed with AC/DC mixed with Vini Vici anywhere except at a DJ show. Using what exists to create something new - that's what real DJing is all about. And don't get me started on scratching.
So, in conclusion, you're wrong. I'm not saying there isn't a part of the EDM industry that's just a ripoff, or music that's made just to get money in there. I believe every industry has that. However, generalising the genre as a whole is just BS. My personal recommendations are Madeon, Illenium, Porter Robinson and Fox Stevenson. Take a listen, you never know if you might like it.
I'm a little younger than Henry, but you have to understand where he's coming from. When he was growing up and coming of age in the late 70's and early 80's, there was a lot of originality. Look at it this way, you still see kids dressing like skaters, punkers, goth, and all the shit that came from Henry's era. In the late-70's, you didn't see derivatives of bygone eras. There weren't any greasers left in 1980. The flower children had died out. Kids weren't playing Frank Sinatra or Elvis. But with even more-elapsed time up to the present era, you continue to see all the shit Henry's generation invented. Go to a high school and see the kids wearing Ramones shirts, hairstyles from 1981, punk shit, Ozzy fans, all the skaters with the same vibe as 1981. He's right in the spirit of what he's saying. Think of how different things were from 1968 to 1981. Take the same 13 years and put it to 2003 to 2017. It's kind of the same feel. It says these last few generations of young kids haven't really made the same impact as other decades.
JohnLoCicero I always wonder if in the future people will ever revere music from this era as much as we do for the past. I don't think Jonas Brothers or Justin Bieber will have such longevity. If they do, still won't affect me anyways.
I was born in 2000 and I completely agree with him... his views on rock n roll these days are true aswell all bark no bite...
@@dylanstewart5479 Rock n roll was always all bark no bite, bud. Maybe Black Flag can get some cred for being perceived as such a threat the police were on their tale a while, but guess what? We still have bands like that. Hardcore as a genre still exists and members from punk bands all around the world are still getting arrested for disturbing the peace to this day, from folkpunk to Crustpunk to hardcore, from the US to the Philippines, that bassist from Ramshackle Glory, more than one person from Leftöver Crack. There are also bands who don't do shit, crappy hair metal bands from the 80s are just as fake tough as like Nickelback or something. Henry's statements hold up just as much a couple years ago as they would've in 1980.
We're not in those times anymore though. Back then, it wasn't that easy to just listen to something from the past. Not everyone had a record player and most people only had a couple of records, and everyone else just listened to the radio which plays current songs. Now all you have to do is Google it and there you go, music from 60 years ago, still in the same quality. It's only natural that when people listen to old music and see video clips from that era, they might want to dress like that or get into that kinda vibe.
It wasnt that original. they were all playing the same instruments that had been played for 50 years before them, only the style of the music had changed. Original is realising that with a shit computer and a piss poor sampler with 5 seconds of sampling time you could chop up the Winstones color him father from the 60s into tearing beat splinters and for the London man dem. Jungle still sounds completely fucking alien to a lot of people now, 30 years later. that's true originality.
And SKisM made a fucking song out of it xD
+PowerCrafter123 I don't even remember how I find that xD
And it's one of his best songs too lol
"Vikivikivik-you can kiss my fuckin ass"
Lmao that's essentially like a "fuck you" to everything he said XD
and its fuckin awesome haha
So did angerfist... and Costa Pantazis lol
Holy shit this guy is angry. He is 40+ years old, and he is this angry. This shit is legendary.
bucky468 at the time this was filmed he is 40+.
old people are frequently pissy about things that don't actually matter
@@winstonmarlowe5254 yeah man this was pathetic to watch. i'm glad i saw it again. like, bro, he literally has an issue with someone spinning the record? the record needs to spin to be heard. he prefers not to be heard?
@@winstonmarlowe5254 you'll get there eventually
I love that this was sampled for techno.
You know it's satire when a punk musician (a genre known for it's simplicity and rawness) makes fun of the same thing but electronic.
But he played his own records
Rollins is known in some circles for being a bit of a dick so I'm not sure he's self-aware of how stupid this sounds coming from someone that got famous in the hardcore and punk scenes where the entire point was simple and often abrasive music in rebellion of over-produced and technically complex rock and metal.
Grunge and post-grunge were the same sentiment but honed to a polish so it's got that catchy hook while still being extermely raw and emotional
Just proves all of his music lacked any integrity. Tipper Gore here, I mean Henry Rollins is just another tool in a long line of tools yelling at kids to get off his lawn.
@@pzen just go and read the lyrics of the songs and you'll be proved very very wrong
Punk is usually very complex and the song writers are usually insanely intelligent people
Thank you, Henry Rollins. The sample you provided was fantastic.
In general I think DJs should go get fucked, I mean they're playing other peoples music and acting like they've done something more special than the people who actually made the music. So I agree with Henry in some regards. However there are some truly excellent DJs whose song picks change the way a crowd behaves. Those DJs create different transitions, add effects, and juxtapose different musics to create an experience that can be unique and compelling. They play the crowd. I will always prefer live music over pre-programmed electronic disco regardless of whatever drugs I happen to be on or off. But some DJs are worthwhile enough to pay to see.
To me a good DJ is like a movie director. He takes parts and puts them together, but he sure as hell ain't no musician. In fact most directors hire those for their movies.
So djs on radios ain't playing other people's songs ? .. it's an art .. n propper djs are just expressing what they like and are liked for their taste and what music they play ..
No wonder he rips on the not understandable singer, this was in 2001, when everyone was trying to copy Pearl Jam. Now a days we have shitty tenor vocalists who all sound like Green Day lost the bite and testosterone.
And anyone dissing Henry Rollins, know that he wasn't a comedian first, he was the lead singer of the hardcore band Black Flag, who is more influential than any EDM artist can hope to be.
Influential to who?
Gimme a fucking break.
He's just like every other old bitter washed musician that no longer makes hits.
I still remember him dancing around on a beach on MTV shouting "CAUSE IM A LIAR!!"
Lololol. Fucking hypocrite.
+mattpunk s. >implying fucking Green Day ever had any testosterone in the first place
Amen
Tony Starks influential to people who want to create music. Butthurt much?
Tony Starks Rollins is one of the best live performers you'd ever have a chance at seeing. He's influential to a lot of modern hardcore singers. Ian of Fucked Up, Frank of Frank Carter & The Rsttlesnakes, etc etc. Who's Tony Stark been influential to besides 30 year old 300 pound fat dudes who need Tinder to fucking get laid?
Henry for President! He's got my vote.
mmmm no
No. We have enough malignant narcissists in office as it is.
Adam McKay Good point.
I love that EDM producers have remixed this rant!
Internet (period)
1:14 thank you skism
YES!
As an Electronic Dance Music producer ( not official, I make it for fun and love ) I can say that it is totally true what he says about Rave music, you just put a kick sample, and pick and rave sample from your virtual analog synthesizer, and it's done, but trust me, for making some REAL Electronic Music, you need alot of talent, imagination, skill, and knowledge of the music theory. And there is alot of ground to cover while making some Electronic Music. Even just mastering an electronic dance track can take up to like 20 hours of straight work, but seriously, if you want it to sound good on all music systems, to be balanced, and people to love it, you have to be an professional in mastering, which is hard, and you gotta have good ear for it, and not to talk about an actual making of the track, even dubstep and trap ( which is considered as ''no talent music''). It's not just ''put this an that sample, and it's done'' It's alot of ground to cover and love to do in Electronic Dance Music, so please don't shit on Electronic Music, shit on crappy producers who are ruining it. I'm not ''shitty complaining whining trance techno electronic skrillex slash big rave room house bitchy fan boy'', just telling you the truth behind it. And DJ-ing too, you can't become popular and respectful DJ if you don't have your own music, well you can, but you fall quickly, or if your uncle is Tiesto, and your dad is Barack Obama, well then you can become something like that, but that falls quickly too actually, because people realise. DJ-ing is something you gotta have good ear for too, it's not just pushing buttons, it involves talent to. Well to be real, it doesn't evolve type of talent like ''being the number one basketball player in the world'' but it's not that easy either. But I do feel you Henry, I know how annoying those shitty DJs slash ''Producers'', and I feel same anger beacuse they are popular more than those who make real music with passion, but what can I say, this world is fucked.
and please explain how you need talent and imagination.... Bullshit
considering that electronic music theory is offered as a course at Juliard, i would say you are correct.
Adolf Hetzer Go Ahead, make an amazing, unique and inovative EDM song without any talent and imagination, go ahead, make it if it's that easy. If it's bullshit, go ahead, make an amazing track, put it on beatport and become famous music producer, go ahead, do it
SnoopehRevolt Well you see, there arent any amazing unique and inovative electronic songs, thats the whole point that is being made here.
Pay attention dj fuckhead.
This guy gets it.
You guys are all missing the point - it's a COMEDY routine!
Rob Scenity Watch "Henry Rollins on the state of music today" and you'll realise very quickly that he's not actually joking.
Rob Scenity Well then Rollins is to Comedy what he thinks DJ's are to music.
He's not joking either. Which is sad. I hate seeing talented performers turn into grumpy old men who think only they know what is what.
Rob Scenity "It's funny because it's true."
Deca yup
NoYamOnus - exactly why he calls it ‘spoken word’ and not comedy. If he called it comedy he’d be ripped to pieces by comedians.
FIFTEEN YEARS since I watched this for the first time and it STILL makes me split my sides laughing
you are a record player player! huahuahua
Yo Henry, you don't think Black Flag was crap music too? Now and then it was screaming and sludge. It was miles below something like the Dead Kennedys. Just don't think Rollins can take the high road on music with his background, even if it is just a comedy routine.
Henry Rollins & Goldie - T-4 Strain
From "Spawn (The Album)" 1997
Enjoy - it's only missing the scratching!
I've been a metalhead & musician since the mid 90s, love all the classic genres from the beginning of the century to the 90s and beyond for their authenticity/ musicianship and I love Henry, but I hope he gets to experience some sick badass rave like AphexTwin's sets in coachella 2019 at least once in his life... 🤫 Either this or Igorrr...
Strong words from a man who plays simplistic, power-chord punk music. If he was a jazz or prog rock musician maybe he would be qualified to criticize other music for being too easy to make.
So what exactly is the problem with DJ's? Someone has to play and mix music at clubs and bars, and most EDM artists would be glad to know DJ's are playing their music. Also, EDM production (as opposed to DJing) isn't easy. If you think it is, go ahead and open Ableton and let me know how that goes for you.
To start listen to Rollins band (liar is a really good place to start) they have many elements of prog and jazz in fact they are closer to that than punk.
As a former electronic musician who has turned to hardcore/metal/punk not to be rude but electronic music is not a a quarter as hard as a band. You can time align and pitch correct and edit and perfect anything in ablation. Hell don’t even need to be able to play the chords you just need to be able to type them out. His main issue is sampling which I agree with, you are playing another record you have cut up and stitched back together and then have the fucking nerve to call it yours. Just because ableton is hard which it is, does not mean that punk and what not is not harder. You need to have feel and the parts perfect every night on an instrument 10 times harder to play than a turn table(coming from a guy who has done both). The hardest part is the thing DJ’s don’t have, the synergy between band members and the trust in band members. If one band member fucks up the mental communication you got going on the song is fucked.if a DJ fucks up it moves on.
Final point of business is that DJ’s are not bad but they shouldn’t be topping the charts and making millions for playing somebody else’s record with minimal addition, you aren’t really presenting as a creative when everybody is coming to your show to hear someone else’s music.
I hope you have changed your mind in the last ten years. Rolling isn't commenting on the difficulty aspect alone. Ramones made very simple music but it was their own music and to create songs maybe simplistic but that catchy and memorable isn't easy.
"hanging out with these super self-important guys"
that's a funny way of Rollins describing a night alone.
all these blank faces..some ppl just dont get it.
Foreal lol
Because they're lost in their discomfort that arises from watching a self-unaware hypocrite turn into a ball of bullshit, knowing full well the same things were said about punk rock music. He fucking proposed censoring these people. What a hypocrite.
I think some people are taking what he's saying way too seriously. It's an exaggeration of opinion to make it more humorous & interesting for his spoken word show. He's had official remixes on one of his tracks himself (before this video) and i'm sure he's mentioned people he's worked with who use samples & mixes in interviews/spoken word that would fall in the category of what he's talking about here.
DJ Steve Porter does the best sample mix of this video. The video even has a cameo appearance from the Techno Viking! What more could you want?!
I agree with him and I'm a DJ.
I'd really love to just put him in front of a DAW and see what he can do. (Probably nothing because electronic music production can be quite complex)
barkmonster Amen. It really is sad when you see ignorant people like Henry Rollins comment on stuff like music production bashing it and not having any clue what the actually complexities of it are.
BlizremeMusic
Complexity and difficulty have nothing to do with the quality of the art.
You do realize that he is using hyperbole and irony to bring across his point that original music has become less and less seen in mainstream media? Besides that, he consciously polarizes to spark discussion about said point.
This guys music was literally easy to make. We’re not talking about Alice In Chains or Rush here. EDM is way harder to make than Henry Rollins music
I like how the first thing that comes up when you type in Rave Review is an electronic remix of this rant...
I bet that's just what classic guitarists thought about the first rock guitarists. "You are just distorting it and playing power chords bla bla bla. And screaming into the microphone and not really singing bla bla bla."
It's easy to make electronic music, but it's hard to make good electronic music.
There is an art to creating the perfect synthesiezer sound or digging for the perfect sample and pitching and speeding or slowing it right and laying out a good original rythm and song structure and there is still mixing and mastering etc. that has to be done to make a really good track. And there are also vocals and lyrics on some electronic songs. While you can use software to patch up the singing, many people will notice the difference to really good singing.
He just has no idea about electronic music, so it seems fake to him.
Yeah, there is a bunch of electronic music that is trash, or that is even trash and popular, but the same goes for any genre.
he did become a meme 🤣
As a multi instrumentalist who's favor genre is metal and loves punk, I respect electronic music.
Wow ur so special
Same but you dont see me fishing for likes like a living zombie
yes, he is not against electronic music check his podcast, he is against the stupid figure of dj who put some buttons and say is an artist.
I feel like he does to, This feels like ggood natured rubbing, especially since he has no room to talk on the drugs, he once dropped acid with another member of black flag
@@cyborglion4179 so if you prove drugs once in a lifetime you are forbidden to cricism? hey tell all the junkies stop warning about drugs, they have no room to talk about that.
Ironic that a guy in a punk band is lecturing everyone on who’s a real musician like the easiest genre of guitar based music to perform lol same three cords every song same drumming aswell hahahaha
No irony. Punk still takes more musical knowledge than electronic music. That being said, someone with broad musical experience can do good things with electronic music. It’s just that you don’t need a sense of rhythm to drag and drop something on to a grid.
Christian Stepaniuk Anyone who thinks there’s no skill in being a DJ doesn’t know anything about it I would love to see you beat match on vinyl mate, and music production aswell there is far more depth in layering music in even something like go studio than there is using overdrive and 4 chords on a square 4/4 beat
@@seriousvideos7194 Theres no skill in remixing other people's song. Lmaoo loser.
Have you heard later Black Flag? Greg Ginn got more experimental in their last couple years. They bad career after Damaged.
Rollins band started to stray away from just hardcore but I mean you can’t talk shit on the guy lol he started that shit in the first place.
"DJ Fuckhead!" hahaha this guy is so funny and clever. Wow! What a wit! "DJ Fuckhead!" hahahaha Wow, man. Your best work certainly is not behind you. This is the golden age of Rollins.
"DJ Fuckhead!?" Where does he GET this stuff??? "DJ Fuckhead?" YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP, HANK.
Butthurt David Guetta fan.
+13/F/K I don't think you get it. He meant instead of DJ...something else, DJ Fuckhead, because he doesn't like their music. :)
His wit is sharp as ever.
fede018 Butt hurt Rollins fan. Which is to say, a male fan who bent over in front of him. He's a closet queen.
+13/F/K nah hes not anti gay at all, if rollins was gay he wouldve came out w no fucks given. Rollins is a genius even if he is kinda uptight. His music had meaning and morals. the fact that he had such high and different morals. youre just pissed cuz you probably listen to rave bullshit
Play "The SektorZ :: By Default" and tell me if you wont wanna fuck on the floor and break shit. This guy's right when it comes to crap like "Animals by Martin Garrix" but there's SO MUCH GOOD SHIT THAT MAKE YOU WANNA FUCK ON THE FLOOR AND BREAK SHIT!
Techno is way more punk than Henry will ever be!
He was an angry young guy with nothing to say, now he is an angry old guy moaning about the things he doesn't understand.
Well said.
Jealous?
F that! What's wrong with you??
What special is this from? I wanna watch the whole thing, I love Rollins
He's the music version of Gordon Ramsay 😂
Vangelis is an example of an electronic/classical music genius!
Aye, and there's a big difference between a musician making electronic music and a DJ (and between a good DJ and a shitty DJ for that matter). I love electronic music (and classic rock, and metal, and and and), but those hacks that only sample other people's music can go suck on exhaust fumes.
***** *less than. Percents are more than they seem. :D
Spoken like someone who really needed to go to a party where it wasn’t all about him, and work shit out with himself
What band was he with? Like when he was opening for Ozzy? It wasn't Black Flag right? Or was it?
that guys neck is legendary
i'm 26 and i agree with him
As much as I agree with Henry I keep imagining how it would be to have a stand up show with Mozart talking about punk rock ! ;)
>tfw Henry Rollins is a meme
+Hide yo Jimmies (Thupermain)
>mfw a guy is in a good band and then later names a band after himself
>inb4 "meme arrows"
Anyone know what performance this is of wanna see the rest
Rollins might be the most honest dude in music, maybe on earth - guy ALWAYS tells it how it is
HE IS 100% CORRECT
there was cool old music video remix on Henry Rollins with viking/
i remember it but can't find. who can help in search?
"that Creed bitch"...thank you Mr. Rollins
dance music is about love. i grew up on punk and 90's pop punk bands and I still love a lot of the music but the rave scene has forever won my heart. the dance scene takes care of its people and we welcome everybody
100
Takes care of sex offenders more like. Idk how many times some talentless dj groped a female friend and she is the one who gets banned lol
Yeah, it seems to be somewhat connected to positive aspects of spirituality and buddhism.
I wonder whether that's the result of mdma being so popular at raves.
Curmudgeon. Rave was a quality era 'enry. If you reckon prodigy (proper original rave outfit) suck old boy then you must reckon punk was just noise?
this guy IS a punk singer.
Enry lol
The Prodigy, The Movement, L.A. Style, Utah Saints, and of course Mr. Richard Melville Hall himself, Moby!
Thank u I been looking for this for years lmao what's thr rave song called that resampled it? I wanna hear it this is so nostalgic lol
Funny how skism sampled this for rave review and then ak9 remixed it creating an amazing track, they turned a negative into a positive :D
terrible remix, not a patch on the original
Why is everyone getting so triggered?
+0LolaLola because that's that.
@Daniel Chico Bowling Green Deniers too
The truth stings
VIVA HENRY ROLLINS!!!
Which performance was this one?
whats the name of the full show for this?
Best and most accurate appraisal of rave and DJs I have ever heard.
I bet you agreed with Tipper Gore when she tried to censor music in the 80s and 90s. It's not my music so it must be bad!
@@pzen congratulations 👏👏👏👏. That was incredible mental gymnastics/logic leap you just did there. I give you a 9.3.
No. Sorry to disappoint you. I never agreed with that. I don't support banning anything. However, I do support good taste, and the humour of someone pointing out what crap music is.
@@Sabundy imagine being this closed minded.
untalented comedian talking shit about whole music genres he doesn't know shit about. Radio music sucks immensely but you cannot condemn an entire music genre because of that. There is amazing electronic music, there is horrible jazz music. It's not about the genre itself, it's about the its composition/realization. Have you heard about "elevator music" ? well, that's jazz.
Superblaster Megamaster For your own sake, I hope you're joking.
Superblaster Megamaster lol, no offence buddy, but that's the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. Seriously.
Superblaster Megamaster good for you mate everyone cares
He never claimed he is a comedian. It is billed as spoken word.
I think the best thing about ravers is the fact that you cannot make fun of us.
I’m serious, this bit is A perfect example you make fun of us it doesn’t matter how brutal you are we will soundbite your bit throw it into a mix and it will be the new number one at the events you’re making fun of. 😂
16 years later, after listening to tons of electronic music, especially dubstep and seeing what Au5 does in the DAW, I'm sayin' this is not just random sounds put together. This is a masterpiece what this guy does
Edm sucks, listen to real music like rock n roll.
@@masteryoda498 I respect RockNRoll listeners, as well as the genre, but to me, EDM is sooo much better... depends on the genre, though, but that is also subjective
@@masteryoda498 As someone who can play classic rock and jazz music on bass guitar, including metal and has some very basic understanding of how to use a DAW. You have zero idea what your talking about and wouldnt be able to make hot cross buns on ableton if your LIFE depending on it kid. Just because you dont like it does not make it not "real" music lmao. Au5 is actually master class from a sound design, and compositional standpoint. Henry rollins is an absolute clown whose band made it big off an edgy "image" and shitty power chrods that i could teach any 10 year old to play in about 10 mins.
@@chandude3
That's your opinion, and opinions are like arseholes, we have all got one.
Sorry Henry Rollins is right about this one, electronic dance music is NOT real music, neither is rap, or any of this auto-tuned manufactured pop rubbish.
Nothing wrong with power chords, they sound great.
I do believe that the exact thing Rollins is shouting about was also being said about punk in it's infancy and beginning.....and to some extent, still is. This makes Henry sound like he is a close-minded, hypocrite, and an un knowledgeable douche about music. He's only using examples from various genres that the corporate record labels and radio shoves into the brainwashed masses earholes. Of course it sucks!!!! He of all people should know that there is, for the most part, within the underground/non- mainstream of most genres, some very good, creative, innovative, cool stuff.
Who?
DJ's are not musicians was his point and he is right. Yes this is still some decent shit out there but the the great shit is gone and is never coming back.
@@Cooliepops Sorry to break it to you - they've been saying that since Roman times
@@Veilure They didn't have rock music in Roman times!
@@Cooliepops
Yes, but they had other kinds of music.
Look it up - they were constantly talking about the old Greek masters, and how new music is horrible.
he got his fame out of fucking punk and he is going to sit here and judge electronic producers? jesus christ.
drizzd1 Punk is greater than shitty electronic music and it's not even close. Punk music has something that electronic music will never have, and that is substance and heart.
RebelThoughts82 "punk is greater than shitty electronic" objectively incorrect, try again, brain dead people have substance and heart and they are fucking useless.
drizzd1 What? LOL you make no sense. Typical electronic music fan dipshit.
RebelThoughts82 you are incapable of understanding, which is totally normal out of a henry rollins fan so don't feel too bad about it.
RebelThoughts82 And that is your opinion. It's a lot like assholes or something....
Sooo...Rollins is saying that he's Not into dubstep/hip-hop, right?
Dude that was awesome
there sure is a lot of butt hurt in the comment section.
Fuck these experts
you know what the experts are telling you....
that heavy music is dead..
The little angst ridden white boys bought into the black mans plan, and are eating it up. Heavy music is not dead, there are devoted legions of fames around the world. What black artist could go into Chile, like iron maiden, and draw in 80,000 fans singing along with every single word? Don't give me this Kanye West or Beyonce shit, those fans are just going to these shows because the media tells them too. Their fans dont know every song, because they don;t even own these performers albums.
Exactly... Beyonce fans know more about her clothes, make-up, hair, and who she's fucking than the music. Heavy music fans go for details about the gear and thought process in the writing, philosophy of the band, etc. I met Black Flag with Henry when they were touring the Damaged album and then again a year later. Totally life-changing experience.
1:15 Reminded me of the Mortal Kombat theme mixed with that one song from Courage the Cowardly Dog.
When and where was this performance?
"a record player player" :D :D he speaks out of my soul !
3:14 James Hetfield that u?
I know Henry is only pissing about but I will say that from my own perspective, I have been listening to Jungle(Specifically late 93-late 95) every day since late 93, with no drugs, and still love it all nearly 30 years later. I love Rock/metal too, I started listening to Maiden first via mix tapes from my cousin back in the early 80s but still ended up into not just the rock/metal, but also the rave, the jungle/d&b, the Gabber and every other genre too. What I am trying to get at is that it doesn't matter what it sounds like or how its produced, it just matters that you love it. One love guys. Peace ✌❤
Insane, the Days of The New guy is actually an extremely talented guitar player and music writer
Ain't nuthin' wrong with rave music... hell, I listen to everything,classical, rock, goth all sorts... sampling and scratching is not easy!
Also, him going on about drugs and music doesnt really make sense. He used to go round to Nick Caves' flat and see him shoot speedballs, but oh, that must be punk!
nickthelick
Seems Rollins bases opinion on stereotypes.
Lance Cunningham
He used to be a rather weedy sort of person when he was younger (by his own admission), though these days he seems more and more like a thug jock!
I don't mind him, but yeah, he's got some fucked up opinions. He just shouts them out a bit too loudly I think! =O)
You ever seen his 'talk' shows? I saw the Think Tank tour (in 2000 I think it was, I think it was his first one-man-show too)... He was pretty entertaining. I do remember him going on about "blippy rave music" as well. Though the most fucked up thing I remember him talking about was the mugging and subsequent murder of his friend Joe Cole... Shot in the face on his doorstep. And when the cops came they seemed totally uninterested in what happened. They actually thought they were a gay couple, so these homophobic cops didn't give two shits. They even handcuffed Henry! For no reason whatsoever... Phew! No wonder he's an angry man! I'd be going mental! I guess the show was cathartic for him, it had only been like 8 or 9 years since the murder. It remains unsolved too... Seems those cops shoulda/coulda been more on the ball for a start. Anyway, I'm just rambling now!
nickthelick
I'll look that show up it sounds good. I've heard Rollins talk real sense - usually when he is calm. I think he lets his knee jerk emotional reactions win over sometimes. It's weird looking at his footage over the years because you can see him change as a person - into an overall better person I feel.
Just relax, dude! it's just his opinion.
I like punk and I love Henry but this kinds irked me. He's right about the over-production and the lack of any consequential attitude in rock music.
But man does it bother me when "rockers" and "punkers" hell bent on flying their true-rock and true-punker flags (no pun intended) insist on throwing electronic music under the bus when all they have is a layman's understanding of how it's made our how much of it exists ( it seems like he has no idea about anything that exists beyond what you would hear in a club.)
Electronic music is pretty fascinating. I study audio production and composition. I grew up listening to rock, punk, and metal. I'm pretty well versed in all of it from Lagwagon to Drive Like Jehu, from Black Flag to Suicidal Tendencies, from Lamb of God to Mastodon, from progressive rock bands like Yes to post punk bands like Joy Division and New Order or the modern day revival of post punk with bands like Interpol and The Bravery.
I also play guitar, bass, and drums. I've been in bands and I know what goes into making "real" music as people like Rollins would call it.
I also enjoy electronic music and I enjoy it today more now then I did before after all I've learned in audio production.
What bothers me about the "you're just sitting on a mac" attitude the simple counter response you can give to it: "yeah, well do you know what they're doing on the mac?"
See, every synth patch you here on a song is carefully crafted with the most complex fucking interfaces you'll ever see on an instrument. You have an array of oscilators generating wave forms which all either play together or interact with eachother. You have control over the attack, sustain, decay and release of each tone, you have control over external, low frequency oscillators which generate wave forms in frequencies too low for us to hear but whos signals you can send to your audible oscilators to fuck with their sound in very specific ways, the nuances of which you have full control over and need to really know your shit to do anything cohesive or musical with.
Not to mention once you get past all of that, there is still the matter of composition. You can't just make a bunch of noise and throw it together. you need to know a thing or two about rythm, about pitch and chords, about crafting melody and counter melodys, about dynamics and how to use all of those elements for all of the dramatic effects that change how different parts of a song move you.
And then sampling is a whole different animal. What about the way samplers gave poor youth in the 80s the means to create hip hop, a music that gave them a voice? What about the nuances of credit that it brings to light? If I record a I-V-VI-V chord progression (4 chord song) and record it, have I not basically plagarized every song with that chord progression? Can you claim ownership of a common chord progression? When I play and record a drum beat and you slice up my recording and extract my individual hits to rearrange into something entirely different, what have you actually stolen? Have a not a million drummers all stepped on their kick pedal in the same fucking manner? How do you claim creative ownership of a single drum hit? If the end product is something entirely different, if you've spent hours, days, months, breaking a part a break beat, rearranging its hits, speeding it up or down, adding layers of other percussion samples or synthesized hits to add depth to it, rearranged the individual pieces of a bunch of chord progressions or melody lines, and arranged them together in a way that hasn't been heard before and created a new song wherein you can recognize any charcteristic of the songs all its pieces came from, that is not "untalented."
Jake Gam its shite
Agreed. As someone who plays the violin and mandolin and also tried making electronic music, gotta say, electronic music is complicated as hell (like, i eventually gave up because it was too hard). Henry's being kind of a boomer here.
Rollins has goofed on punk bands as well.
Much needed comment. Thank you
Этот анализ выступления очень глубок. Всё равно Генри Роллинсу респект и уважуха, хоть я и не согласен со всем, что он говорит. Само выступление очень ржачное.
Been listening to SKisM's rave review for years and every time i hear him go making that beat, i thank him even tho hes making fun of it
This bit was my very first introduction to Henry when I was 11 years old before I even knew what punk rock was lol
I am a little shocked at hearing this come from someone who is an open minded individual. I find henry rollins talks about marriage equality and his own background story to be very inspiring, but I guess some people have to hate everything. I attend many raves and festivals, and while drugs are common in some rave circles that is not unique to something in the rave scene, and I have been to events where almost everyone is sober. Raves bring about peace and change lives. as a lover of punk rock
Raves suck. They spread drugs, and STDs. They. Suck.
A big part of the reason raves bring about peace is mdma. Kind of hard to be angry on over 100mg of mdma.
So he's against sampling and DJing in general? I don't like awful rave music either, but what about hip-hop and the "golden-age of sampling". Groups like A Tribe Called Quest transformed other people's stuff into something epic and new.
I don't think he's against it in general. He's overreacting to make the show funny. And he's ranting about uninspiring, awful rave music, dj's and electronic music producer's widely spread arrogant, elitist attitude and about most nowadays low quality productions (e.g. in rock music).
captainbrainless
That was kinda funny that captainbrainless had to explain the humor to you all...I would not watch HR and expect anything less than satire through humorous exaggeration. Enjoy the show - he is just playing!
The difference is that groups like A Tribe Called Quest did something talented with and on top of the sampling. There's a world of difference between the trash he's talking about and ATCQ.
Is there a "full" version of this?
Great clip!
SKisM !!
YES
Yes!!! He is the shit.
Well, I love his music. Respect!
"GOD I HATE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT."
First he shits on edm, and then post grunge. Love it!
which special is this from?
Hilarious, I've been into rave music over 20years and still find this funny! Haha I dunno why
idk maybe your rave isnt that shitty
Mark Heath I think cause we all can relate that in every genre of music 80 percent of it is shit. He also riffed on modern rock bands at the end.
This is so grim, so true, so real!
Nothing can save us
I totally agree..I am a vinyl collector..78 Rpms 45's and 33's. love it
lol, i've missed this guy, wot a hero!
funny, i'm an old rocker too, but i found the link when i was listening to some very nice ambient music...i guess every evolutionary curve has to go somewhere
you know people are full of shit when they talk shit about something to afterwards make the same shit that they're shitting on in this case Henry did some collaborations with techno artists ,most known example him & Goldie on the Spawn soundtrack it totally invalidates their argumentation.cracks me up